Start Your Week Off With A Smile

Monday, November 3, AD 2014

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  • Pelosi! I picture her trying to get into the wedding.
    The purple dress with gold tassels is tinged with blood red.
    She is amazed as the King has refused her to enter. “Don’t you know who I am?” “Yes!” is the reply. “Don’t you know who you are?”
    Many are called…yet few are chosen.
    Catholic and pro-choice is a deadly combination. Deadly for All.

  • That is one of my favorite movie quotes! The injustice in that Arnold never received an Oscar . . . [joking!]

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    Get out and vote. [Intsruct the ignorant.] I’m convinced that you won’t be getting into Heaven if you vote Democrat. [Admonish the sinner.] There is my Spiritual Work of Mercy for today.

  • Nancy Pelosi does not have the intelligence or common sense to accomplish anything worthwhile. She comes from a crooked Baltimore Democrat family and would not last a week in the world if she had to work to support herself.

    The Republican Party’s adherence to wishy washy moderates has long been a source of frustration for me, but Tuesday night should be fun to watch – with the exception of the Pennsylvania governor race. Pennsylvania will elect an Ed $pendell blowhard to the governor’s mansion where he will spend four frustrating years failing to convince a Republican controlled state assembly to increase income taxes.

  • In response to Mr. Shaw, my understanding of current instruction to us Catholics on this is that its not mortal if you say, vote for a Democrat who you agree with everything else on, but you disagree with them on abortion. I seem to remember reading that it had been stated to be ok…or at least not a mortal sin….if you voted for a Democrat….but NOT because of their stance on life.

    I am a Democrat for many reasons. However, one of them is this….the “liberal” narrative, especially when it comes to issues of social justice and the struggles non white, non male people still go through in the USA….it all makes more sense to me. As a straight white male, the conservative “narrative” on those issues feels too self-congratulatory. Like its saying to me “You are awesome and doing fine. The structure of the world, which just so happens to benefit you a lot, is just and you don’t have to worry so much”. But when I read actual stories from women, the poor, people who are not white, and I see the physical, specific descriptions of their struggles, vs the vague “they are all overreacting” stuff I feel like I see from conservative sources, those conservative sources just feel too silver-tongued, like they are assuring me of my place. Again, its not my only reason for voting that way, but do I feel that way.

  • “I seem to remember reading that it had been stated to be ok…or at least not a mortal sin….if you voted for a Democrat….but NOT because of their stance on life.”

    Which is equivalent to saying that you overlooked Stephen Douglas’ support of slavery in 1860 due to his stance against a National Bank. Abortion is the prime human rights issue of our time and those who lend their political support to those who are perfectly fine with slaying kids in utero are no better than an abortionist working at Planned Parenthood. It is precisely that mentality which leads to a million deaths of the most innocent among us each and every year.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/lauretta-brown/catholic-archbishop-voters-cannot-ignore-legalized-homicide-abortion

  • I am a Democrat for many reasons. However, one of them is this….the “liberal” narrative, especially when it comes to issues of social justice and the struggles non white, non male people still go through in the USA

    The left-wing (I refuse to call it liberal) approach is what helps keep the poor downtrodden. I wish for a moment that social justice Catholics would put their emotion aside and see the destruction that their social engineering efforts have wrought in the communities they are trying to help.

    In fact the very use of “narrative” in this discussion is illustrative of the problem. Instead of analyzing the differences in the policy approaches you are concerned about language and feelings. It is time to take stock of whether the economic policies you favor do more harm than good.

  • I happen to think that the liberal narrative regarding the poor, women, and people who are not white, is factually correct.

  • I’m always tickled by the “social justice,” dems who can not see the death of 57 million innocents as a social injustice. To me, a nobody, these dems rank up there with Hitler, a true social justice pioneer.

    When you wake up surrounded by the tiny aborted limbs and torsos of 57 million make damn sure that you remember your vote! You might have to live with the vote you cast for eternity.

    After all, Death Judgment Heaven Hell.

    We will all pass on from this life to a next one. You determine the placement. Your choices fit your destination. You are making it everyday. You’ll have no one to blame.

    Choose Wisely!

  • I happen to think that the liberal narrative regarding the poor, women, and people who are not white, is factually correct.

    First of all, this indicates that you have an entrenched opinion that is not likely to change no matter what counterfactuals you are presented. That’s not unusual – sadly most individuals are like that. More importantly, you insist on discussing “narratives.” Narratives don’t feed the poor.

  • I’m always tickled by the “social justice,” dems who can not see the death of 57 million innocents as a social injustice.

    What’s 57 million dead children compared to the ability to pass a health care bill that actually makes health care more expensive for millions of people. Because passing that health care bill “felt” like the right thing to do, even if in fact it made things worse. After all, we’re talking about narratives here.

  • First, the us catholic bishops ok’d the voting strategy I use in “Forming Conscience For faithful citizenship”.
    Also, In terms of how I would argue my position is more than gut intuition, while their are many reasons, one I submit is the video Jessica Williams of The Daily Show made detailing street harassment. While i know some who hear this will dismiss it out of hand because it is the Daily Show, i ask that you only comment on the point made in the video itself, after having watched It. I believe it’s “jessicas feminized atmosphere”

  • Also, In terms of how I would argue my position is more than gut intuition, while their are many reasons, one I submit is the video Jessica Williams of The Daily Show made detailing street harassment.

    http://goo.gl/fQjKai

    While i know some who hear this will dismiss it out of hand because it is the Daily Show –

    No, I dismiss it because that might actually be the shallowest rationale I ever heard for supporting leftist policy, and I have heard a lot of shallow arguments in my life. Seriously, if that’s the level of thought you have put into these matters, then all I can say is have a nice day.

  • To Mr. Zummo,

    No, as stated, the video was not my only reason. I Simply included as 1 example. Its one example of the Callous disregard given to women. Also, I am curious About peoples specific responses To the video, particularly, the disregard shown by Fox, and how hard the women have to work to avoid comments.

  • Poor blacks by 90%+ have voted Dem for 50 years. They are even poorer for it.

  • Dear Watcher, The program of the Left is all about coercion. Eventually, there will be no limits to extent of it. History!

Archbishop Cordileone Responds

Tuesday, June 17, AD 2014

Archbishop of San Francisco Salvatore Cordileone has responded to calls by Nancy Pelosi and other California Democrat politicians that he not join the June 19th March for Marriage, and he is not backing down:

 

 

Dear Fellow Citizens,

 

Your letter sharing with me your thoughts on the upcoming “March for Marriage” in Washington, D.C., was forwarded to me while I was attending meetings out of town, and I have reflected on what you have to say.  I appreciate your affirmation of my Church’s teaching—not unique to our religion, but a truth accessible to anyone of good will—on the intrinsic human dignity of all people, irrespective of their stage and condition in life.  That principle requires us to respect and protect each and every member of the human family, from the precious child in the womb to the frail elderly person nearing death.  It also requires me, as a bishop, to proclaim the truth—the whole truth—about the human person and God’s will for our flourishing.  I must do that in season and out of season, even when truths that it is my duty to uphold and teach are unpopular, including especially the truth about marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife.  That is what will be doing on June 19th

 

With regard to your request that I not attend the March, and the reasons you give for this request, allow me to explain the following points. 

 

The March for Marriage is not “anti-LGBT” (as some have described it); it is not anti-anyone or  anti-anything.  Rather, it is a pro-marriage March.  The latter does not imply the former.  Rather, it affirms the great good of bringing the two halves of humanity together so that a man and a woman may bond with each other and with any children who come from their union.  This is precisely the vision promoted by Pope Francis, who recently said, “We must reaffirm the right of children to grow up in a family with a father and mother.” Rest assured that if the point of this event were to single out a group of individuals and target them for hatred, I most certainly would not be there. 

While I cannot go into all of the details here of your allegations against the sponsors of this event and scheduled speakers, I do know that at least some of what you say is based on misinterpretation or is simply factually incorrect.  For example, it is not true that the National Organization for Marriage connects homosexuality with pedophilia and incest.  What is true is that three years ago a conference was sponsored in Baltimore by the group B4U-ACT for the purpose of finding ways to encourage tolerance for pedophilia.  A statement on NOM’s blogpost objecting to this conference affirmed that this is something that would outrage people in the gay community as well.  Unfortunately, many conclusions are being drawn about those involved in the March for Marriage based on false impressions. 

It gives me assurance that we share a common disdain for harsh and hateful rhetoric.  It must be pointed out, though, that there is plenty of offensive rhetoric which flows in the opposite direction.  In fact, for those who support the conjugal understanding of marriage, the attacks have not stopped at rhetoric.  Simply for taking a stand for marriage as it has been understood in every human society for millennia, people have lost their jobs, lost their livelihoods, and have suffered other types of retribution, including physical violence.  It is true that historically in our society violence has been perpetrated against persons who experience attraction to members of the same sex, and this is to be deplored and eradicated.  Sadly, though, we are now beginning to see examples, although thankfully not widespread, of even physical violence against those who hold to the conjugal view of marriage (such as, most notably, the attempted gunning down of those who work in the offices of the Family Research Council).  While it is true that free speech can be used to offend others, it is not so much people exercising their right to free speech that drives us further apart than people punished precisely for doing so that does. 

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24 Responses to Archbishop Cordileone Responds

  • But he and his brother bishops still need to publicly excommunicate that heretic Pelosi, treating her in the same way that St Paul treated the sex pervert at the Church in Corinth in 1st Corinthians 5 and the same way St John treated that false prophetess Jezebel at the Church in Thyatira in Revelation 2. It is time to publicly put these heretics and apostates in their proper place. It is one thing for a person to privately fail and sin, and repent and try again to do what is right. It is another to persist in publicly manifest sin as Pelosi, Biden, Kerry and all the rest of the Katholyck Demoncraps do.

  • Pelosi and the gay gestapo deserve a one word response: “Nuts!”

  • Paul: “But he and his brother bishops still need to publicly excommunicate that heretic Pelosi,”
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    I agree. Excommunication will have an impact on people considering their position of marriage and the Right to Life. If we do not stop the imposters, good people will suffer. The rape of minor children who do not have informed consent to give or incest with one’s child ought to be punished most severely. The child’s informed sexual consent and all civil rights are held in trust for them by God, their parents and finally by the state. Yes, God’s law is violated every time a child is violated. Atheism is unconstitutional (or prohibit the free exercise thereof) and the repugnant fruit of atheism is lawlessness and savagery.
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    Marriage, the marital act, makes a husband of a man and a wife of a woman, as a child makes a mother of a woman and a father of a man. Marriage and family have already been defined.Redefining marriage and family is co-opting the law of God, plagiarizing God’s law, stealing from and cheating the people.
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    The bishops in unison need to move on this as there is little time left. The barbarians are at the gate.

  • My sentinments exactly.

  • I wish the Fellow Citizens to exercise their attention spans as regards this letter.

  • Thanks Bishop Cordileone!

    Beautiful letter. Seasons come and go, but the Truth remains the same. God bless courageous religious!

  • Nancy must need more campaign finance $$$ for this fall’s election contests.

  • What a beautiful letter from the archbishop! Wouldn’t it be great if she would continue the exchange, instead of just firing off a volley and then walking away with her ears and heart closed. As he said, love is the answer. And the courtesy to dialogue. I hope she responds with the same respect he has shown.

  • Hi praise for the Archbishop’s courage and clarity as well as his reaching out a hand. I have done so many times myself on all things related to these concerns. Tolerance and love goes both ways and when it is authentically present, I very much concur: miracles CAN and DO happen.

  • “And so I ask you: V. Do you renounce Satan? R. I do. V. And all his works? R. I do. V. And all his empty show? R. I do.” Why, then, does the archbishop feel it is necessary to say that the “March for Marriage is not … anti-anyone or anti-anything”?

  • How refreshing and inspiring to meet a TRUE Shepherd for a change. There might be one counter offer the good Archbishop my make to Ms. Pelosi and the other elected officials that I would consider, and that is – To ask her and the others to renounce their support of abortion publicly and pledge to support all pro-life legislation in the future including nominees to the U.S. Courts who would support a Constitutional Right to Life.

  • Imagine what you could accomplish if you and your kind worked to promote peace, an end to poverty, and an end to malnutrition and starvation instead of using your time and energy to promote hate and discrimination. WWJD?

  • “instead of using your time and energy to promote hate and discrimination.”

    The flaw in your argument Tim is that is not what we are doing. Refusing to bow to the transformation of marriage is neither hatred nor discrimination but standing up for common sense.

    “WWJD?”

    Judging from the Gospels, He would tell us all to go and sin no more and also tell us in graphic detail what will happen to us in the world to come if we do not.

  • He gives me hope in the True Church.

  • “Imagine what you could accomplish if you and your kind..” No prejudicial slant in that introduction to a comment?.. hmm. I wonder who “me and my kind” are to this person…

  • “You and your kind” – typical liberal prejudice. No tolerance. No respect. No kindness. No niceness. No diversity of thought. No freedom of expression. Just godless putrid liberalism.

  • From the Bible, “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.”

    I do not see the gay gestapo (if one disagrees one is evil, hateful and must be destroyed), Tim and his kind aren’t making any progress in the areas of “promote peace; end poverty; or end malnutrition and starvation.”

    St. Augustine summed it up. “The only evils these people recognize are having to endure hunger, disease, and murder (war). It is as though man’s greatest good were to have everything good, except himself.”

    Paraphrasing A. Lincoln: Calling two men a “married couple” is equally as invalid as calling a dog’s tail a leg. That dog still has only four legs.

  • What Would Jesus Do? {WWJD]

    We already know:

    “..Have you not read that He Who created them from the beginning made them male and female and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and cling to his wife and the two shall become one flesh” Matthew 19.4-5

  • “worked to promote peace”

    Working to protect traditional marriage is an effort to promote peace. A redefinition of marriage is a war against tradition, gender and the child.

    ” an end to malnutrition and starvation”

    The Church’s mission first and foremost is the salvation of souls. It was not established to be Meals on Wheels.

  • Hey, Tim.

    Here’s a tiny slice of what “our kind” does to promote peace, an end to poverty, and an end to malnutrition and starvation:
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    http://catholiccharitiesusa.org/
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    http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1400345.htm
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    http://www.crs.org/
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    http://www.stjude.org
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    http://www.gabrielproject.com/
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    Not to mention the food pantries located in almost every parish, as well as free clinics, unemployment services, mental health services and an address for almost every human need, all done at little or no cost. Google “Catholic free clinics” or “Catholic food pantries” for listings in your area.
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    I don’t know where you got your information, but whoever told you that “our kind” doesn’t do these things, but rather ‘promotes hate and discrimination,’ obviously believes that you are a complete and utter moron. The truth is so incredibly evident with just the slightest bit of research, that they, whoever they are, must take you for an unquestioning, illiterate boob with no capacity for critical thought whatsoever. I would sincerely doubt their honest concern for your well-being if I were you.

  • Hey Paul Primavera, where is Rudy Giuliani and Senator Susan Collins on your list to be excommunicated? If there is any doubt why we are getting our butts kicked on this issue, look no further then the hypocrisy of a political party that is loud on homosexuality but virtually silent on pornography and “strip clubs”.

  • I agree completely, Tom M. And I would add George Pataki to that list as well.

  • Good for you Paul on your consistency. I do wonder though what you think would happen if the Church started mass excommunicating the Biden, Pelosi, Pataki and Giuliani’s of the world? My guess is that we would become about as relevant as the Orthodox Church. Maybe that’s a good thing but I’m glad I’m not making those decisions.

  • Tom M, the Church isn’t about relevance. It is about worshiping and serving God. Sts Paul, John, James and Peter didn’t give a hoot about this liberal penchant for relevance. St Ignatius of Antioch preferred to be eaten by the wild beasts in the Coliseum before being relevant. I say to hades with relevance, liberalism and RINO-ism. Vive Christe Rex!

Pelosi, the Bishops and Tekel

Monday, June 16, AD 2014

 

 

For years faithful Catholics have been urging the excommunication of the Lying Worthless Political Hack, aka Nancy Pelosi House Minority Leader.  Such pleas have fallen on deaf ears.  Now the Lying Worthless Political Hack believes that she can bully the Archbishop of her city, San Francisco, and she quotes Pope Francis while doing so.  Father Z gives us the details:

 

 

Nancy Pelosi urges S.F. archbishop to exit marriage march

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi took the lead this week in a high-profile lobbying effort to pressure San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone not to attend the controversial March for Marriage event, which she characterized as “venom masquerading as virtue.”

Pelosi, who is one of the country’s most powerful [pro-abortion absolutist] Catholic politicians, made a passionate appeal to the archbishop in a letter obtained by The Chronicle not to participate in the National Organization for Marriage’s June 19 march on the Supreme Court in Washington.

Cordileone, who is one of the featured speakers at the event, was a leader in the campaign for Proposition 8, the 2008 California anti-gay-marriage initiative.

“We share our love of the Catholic faith and our city of San Francisco,” Pelosi wrote to Cordileone, who, as head of the 560,000-member Archdiocese of San Francisco, has become the Catholic bishops’ point man against gay marriage. She urged him to abandon an event in which some of the participants show “disdain and hate towards LGBT persons.”  [If that’s what Pelosi says, you can be sure the event is exactly the opposite.]

Invoking the words of Pope Francis with regard to gays and lesbians, she wrote, “If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him?” [?!?…. and?]

The goal of the second annual March for Marriage is to draw thousands of supporters of what they call “traditional marriage” [you can almost hear the sneer…. “what they call…”] to walk from the U.S Capitol to the Supreme Court. Conservative former presidential candidates Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum, as well as Cordileone, are being billed as the star speakers.

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Is there some initiative out there in support of Archbp. Cordileone? I am itching to create an ACTION ITEM.

Can. 915 needs to be applied to this scandalous wreck of a Catholic.

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35 Responses to Pelosi, the Bishops and Tekel

  • Mark Shea (and the site he links to) disagrees with you, Don. But, them again, Mr. Shea is very disagreeable! http://www.patheos.com/blog/markshea/2014/06/mackerel-snapper-asks-the-musical-question.html

  • Virtue is a high dollar boutique where the House Minority Leader shops.

    Virtue is a word in which poor Nancy has neither the concept of, nor experience in practice thereof. Now venom! All snakes are experts in producing venom. House Minority Leader included.

    Nancy. Go fly a kite.

  • “If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him?” [?!?…. and?]
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    Please note that Pope Francis says nothing, absolutely nothing about those who are practicing gay behavior, the sodomists. The sodomist denies his partner’s soul and can’t be bothered searching for the Lord. Is this good will or indulgence is one’s own lust? Or am I judging?
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    Nancy Pelosi, House Minority Leader, says that she had five children in six years. Does that mean that if I have five children in six years, I can become House Minority Leader?
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    Immediate animation by the human, rational, immortal soul occurs at fertilization, before the human being begins his journey down the fallopian tubes. (fallopian implantation may rupture the fallopian tube and cause immediate death for the mother in which instance removing the human being is necessary to save the life of the mother. Death must be imminent for this cause to be invoked. Prognosis is a definite maybe)
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    Willful human sacrifice is worship of the devil and cannot be permitted in a civilized society because another human being, a potential American citizen, being sacrificed, is unconstitutional. It is called homicide.
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    Kermit Gosnell went to prison for murdering American citizens. How many sovereign souls, from immediate animation through citizenship at birth, Gosnell ripped from the womb untimely, will be known in eternity. Atheism says there is no eternity. Mother Angelica says: “You will believe in hell, when you get there.”

  • Back in September of 2008, then-Speaker of the House Pelosi made several
    comments downplaying the seriousness of her rejection of Church teaching
    on the sanctity of life. In the controversy that followed, then-Archbishop of
    San Francisco George Niederauer publicly chastised Pelosi and informed her
    that he wanted to sit down with her and discuss both her scandalous rejection
    of the Church’s teaching and her reception of Holy Communion.
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    Pelosi’s office responded by stating that Madame Speaker was very, very busy
    and Pelosi pinky-swore that she’d sit catch up with her Archbishop as soon as
    possible. Six years and a new Archbishop later, and Pelosi still hasn’t found
    a free moment to have that sit-down with her Ordinary… It’s almost as if she
    was making a show of how little she cares what her Archbishop (and the Church)
    thinks.
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    If Canon 915 isn’t applicable in the case of the scandal that is Pelosi, pray
    tell when would it be?

  • I would agree that the most grievous of all sins could be the outright denial of the Divine Mercy of our God. Since divine mercy would necessarily include divine justice in its concluding judgment of mankind this has to be a reasonable position for us. Too often we humans, in making judgment of our actions and behavior, have a tendency to overlook the preeminence of this. That is the basis of what Pope Francis meant when he said “Who am I to judge”.
    We have the Law, the Scriptures, and Tradition to guide us in the pursuit of perfection to which we have been called but that perfection, if it could ever be achieved, would in truth simply be a human image of the one and only Divinity. The Pope was excusing himself from the vainglory some humans ascend to when they make declarations about others and assign definitive sentences regarding their activity.
    The only way to find out who is in hell is to go there and the path there includes setting oneself up as an authority on its contents. This, unfortunately, is what is meant by the oft used “judge not lest you be judged” precaution we Christians have been given. Unfortunate, because it has been twisted and used by the forces of Evil to stop the faithful in their tracks anytime we attempt to reveal its presence in the minds and hearts of sinful men and women posing as our benefactors in their efforts to lead us to a secular Utopia.

  • Revelation chapter 2:

    20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jez′ebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and beguiling my servants to practice immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her immorality. 22 Behold, I will throw her on a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her doings; 23 and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches shall know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve.

  • Pelosi had a private meeting with Pope Benedict XVI. There is no way Pope Benedict XVI did not inform Pelosi of the Truth. If Pelosi does not hear the Pope, Pelosi will not hear her Bishop.

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  • While I find Nancy Pelosi’s views on abortion and gay marriage repugnant, particularly as she identifies as a practising Catholic and cannot understand why she has not been prohibited from receiving communion, I am not at all happy with descriptions of her as “a wreck of a Catholic” or a “lying worthless political hack.”
    These descriptions are degrading and I believe, un-Christian. Let’s stick to constructive criticism of what she stands for, what she has said and how she has acted but leave out the personal attacks, the insulting language.

  • “I am not at all happy with descriptions of her as “a wreck of a Catholic” or a “lying worthless political hack.””

    Purely accurate descriptions Robert, and I can attest to that as I have made a close study of her career. It is never degrading or un-Christian to call a spade, a spade.

  • What needs to happen is C915 needs to be revised so it can be applied. In the Latin, direct means direct, not support or vote.

  • Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion: General Principles
    Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger
    Prefect, Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

    [Note: The following memorandum was sent by Cardinal Ratzinger to Cardinal McCarrick and was made public in the first week of July 2004.]

    1. Presenting oneself to receive Holy Communion should be a conscious decision, based on a reasoned judgment regarding one’s worthiness to do so, according to the Church’s objective criteria, asking such questions as: “Am I in full communion with the Catholic Church? Am I guilty of grave sin? Have I incurred a penalty (e.g. excommunication, interdict) that forbids me to receive Holy Communion? Have I prepared myself by fasting for at least an hour?” The practice of indiscriminately presenting oneself to receive Holy Communion, merely as a consequence of being present at Mass, is an abuse that must be corrected (cf. Instruction “Redemptionis Sacramentum,” nos. 81, 83).

    2. The Church teaches that abortion or euthanasia is a grave sin. The Encyclical Letter Evangelium vitae, with reference to judicial decisions or civil laws that authorize or promote abortion or euthanasia, states that there is a “grave and clear obligation to oppose them by conscientious objection. […] In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to ‘take part in a propaganda campaign in favour of such a law or vote for it'” (no. 73). Christians have a “grave obligation of conscience not to cooperate formally in practices which, even if permitted by civil legislation, are contrary to God’s law. Indeed, from the moral standpoint, it is never licit to cooperate formally in evil. […] This cooperation can never be justified either by invoking respect for the freedom of others or by appealing to the fact that civil law permits it or requires it” (no. 74).

    3. Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia. For example, if a Catholic were to be at odds with the Holy Father on the application of capital punishment or on the decision to wage war, he would not for that reason be considered unworthy to present himself to receive Holy Communion. While the Church exhorts civil authorities to seek peace, not war, and to exercise discretion and mercy in imposing punishment on criminals, it may still be permissible to take up arms to repel an aggressor or to have recourse to capital punishment. There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia.

    4. Apart from an individual’s judgment about his worthiness to present himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, the minister of Holy Communion may find himself in the situation where he must refuse to distribute Holy Communion to someone, such as in cases of a declared excommunication, a declared interdict, or an obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin (cf. can. 915).

    5. Regarding the grave sin of abortion or euthanasia, when a person’s formal cooperation becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws), his Pastor should meet with him, instructing him about the Church’s teaching, informing him that he is not to present himself for Holy Communion until he brings to an end the objective situation of sin, and warning him that he will otherwise be denied the Eucharist.

    6. When “these precautionary measures have not had their effect or in which they were not possible,” and the person in question, with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, “the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it” (cf. Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts Declaration “Holy Communion and Divorced, Civilly Remarried Catholics” [2002], nos. 3-4). This decision, properly speaking, is not a sanction or a penalty. Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgment on the person’s subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person’s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.

    [N.B. A Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in evil, and so unworthy to present himself for Holy Communion, if he were to deliberately vote for a candidate precisely because of the candidate’s permissive stand on abortion and/or euthanasia. When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favour of abortion and/or euthanasia, but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.]

  • Nancy Pelosi has excommunicated herself (latae sententia) long ago.

  • Yes, it is uncharitable to call her those names. You undercut your credibility by doing so. I agree with you that she is deplorable. But as soon as anyone hears simple name calling, they can immediately ignore the column as being the work of strong emotion rather than reason. So while it may have made you feel better, it has effectively destroyed the persuasive value of your writing.
    Christians are called to be generous towards those who are wrong. “Turn the other cheek” – “If one asks you to go a mile with them, go two” “Even the gentiles hate their enemies and love their friends.

    “It is not degrading to call a spade a spade”. The point is not about Pelosi. It is about you and how you model Christian behavior.

    Pelosi can be rhetorically dismantled without calling her names. And it would be far more effective to do it in a calm, reasoned way rather than a “I am out of control” way

  • Cernhigss: “Pelosi can be rhetorically dismantled without calling her names. And it would be far more effective to do it in a calm, reasoned way rather than a “I am out of control” way”
    .
    Then do it

  • Is there anything we can do to force the Bishop’s hands in order to bring about the devil’s, Pelosi’s, excommunication ? When the Bishops are rotting in a jail cell at her hand, do u think they will finally act?

  • “Yes, it is uncharitable to call her those names. You undercut your credibility by doing so. I agree with you that she is deplorable. But as soon as anyone hears simple name calling, they can immediately ignore the column as being the work of strong emotion rather than reason. So while it may have made you feel better, it has effectively destroyed the persuasive value of your writing.”

    Cernhigss: Your argument has “some” truth in it but not “the” truth or by any means “all” truth. Jesus Christ while here in Earth called religious hypocrites the children of the Devil (yes, Satan himself,) told them they were whited walls–a very ugly yet picturesque insult, told them they were carrying out the deeds if their father the Devil, called them vipers/snakes, was violent with money changers in a house of worship, etc.

    Emotion does not invalidate argument–that is a political lie.

  • Daniel L Gray may be right, when he says, “Nancy Pelosi has excommunicated herself (latae sententia) long ago” but against this, we must remember the Council of Constance’s decree, Ad evitenda Scandala, “To avoid scandal and numerous dangers and to relieve timorous consciences, we hereby mercifully grant to all the faithful that henceforth no one need refrain from communicating with another in the reception or administration of the sacraments, or in other matters Divine or profane, under pretext of any ecclesiastical sentence or censure, whether promulgated in general form by law or by a judge, nor avoid anyone whomsoever, nor observe an ecclesiastical interdict, except when this sentence or censure shall have been published or made known by the judge in special and express form, against some certain, specified person, college, university, church, community, or place.”

  • I love the wording from the Ad evitenda Scandala decree. Kindness of clarity is expressed in “To avoid scandal and numerous dangers and to Relieve Timorous Consciences, … when this sentence or censure shall have been published or made known by the judge in special and express form, …”
    The word, timorous, is food for thought. (Thank you for your endless source of references! They remind of your convenient discovery of a hyacinth in a cabinet for a holiday.)

  • Good column Donald. Spot on. Call a spade a spade. “Ye brood of vipers” comes to mind, “whited sepulcres full of dead men’s bones,” and, what you don’t see in commentaries is that Jesus called Herod something worse than “a fox.” My Arabic scripture teacher said that the Aramaic word meant something more like “skunk.” I assume he knew what he was talking about. He actually memorized the four Gospels, and could recite one of them in Greek. God rest his soul.

  • Also I am dismayed by Archbishop Cordileoni’s equivocal letter, especially that the March is “not against anything.” It certainly is against something, sodomite marriage.

  • Where the bishop is, there is the Church. So, where is the bishop?

    Public acts of scandal require public acts of correction. So, where is the bishop?

  • To all those who wrote to the following effect, “Yes, it is uncharitable to call her those names…”

    What do you think both John the Baptist and Jesus called the Pharisees?

    What do you think John the Baptist said to King Herod for his perverted sexual relations?

    What do you think Jesus Himself said to the disciples about King Herod?

    What do you think St. Peter said to Sapphira’s face for lying?

    What do you think St. Paul told the Church of Corinth to do with the sex pervert, and what do you think he said about Hymenaeus and Alexander?

    What do you think St. John said about that adulteress Jezebel at the Church in Thyatira?

    It is high time to confront these murderers and sex perverts to their faces. Words mean everything. Furthermore, it isn’t judgment to state an observation.

  • Paul P.
    Agreed.

    One more. Matthew 5:37; “Let your yes be yes, and your no, no. For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.”

    Her explanation of late term abortion is most definitely from the evil one. “Sacred?” Really? Praying for her soul is our responsibility.

  • Man is sacred. KIlling man is unholy.

  • Thank you Pat for the Crisis link. Very informative. This phrase from that article jumped out at me: ” designed to marginalize the Bishops “.
    It seems to me the archbishops letter was a good fairly measured response that protects the people who are the victims of such marginalization. If the bishops are marginalized the flocks can be more easily devoured… so his response is good I think, because it doesn’t give the enemy the red meat of bellicose verbiage, but responds couched in terms of love and respect. so many of the flock do not read Crisis, or TAC or keep up with what is going on with the Bishop’s and only get what the media and the leftish enemies of the Church want to throw to them. The bishop did not give any words that can be used against the Church but he spoke clearly enough in defense of her (the Church).
    Just can’t go out there with roundhouse punches and flailing arms but must be always aware of protecting the people who are so easily mislead.

  • “The road to hell is paved with the skulls of erring priests, with bishops as their signposts.”
    St. John Chrysostom

    “I do not think there are many among Bishops that will be saved, but many more that perish.”
    St. John Chrysostom, Extract from St. John Chrysostom, Homily III on Acts 1:12

  • “It must be observed, however, that if the faith were endangered, a subject ought to rebuke his prelate even publicly.”
    St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica II, II, q. 33, a. 4

    “Augustine says in his Rule: ‘Show mercy not only to yourselves, but also to him who, being in the higher position among you, is therefore in greater danger.’ But fraternal correction is a work of mercy. Therefore even prelates ought to be corrected.”
    St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica II, II, q. 33, a. 4, Sed Contra

  • How encouraging to see postings by self-appointed “holier than thou” Catholics on the topic of elected officials who also happen to be Catholic. As a cradle Catholic, I would never presume to know who is or isn’t Catholic.
    We have a secular government, not a Christian government although some seem to think it is. So many of these so-called pro-life politicians have no problem voting for killing machines such as the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or simple cluster bombs used by Israel against Palestinians. Now we have Catholic state legislators who want to make miscarriages a crime and charge these women with murder. How Christian of them. Of course, these same hypocrites are the first to take their teenage daughters to Planned Parenthood when they discover the little darling has a muffin in the oven.

  • Congratulations, Mike, on one of the most ill-informed, cliche ridden comments in blog history. Let’s go through it piece by piece.

    As a cradle Catholic, I would never presume to know who is or isn’t Catholic.

    I have no doubt that you may very well be a cradle Catholic. Of course considering the state of catechesis and Catholic education in the United States, that has very little bearing on the merits of your comment. Nevertheless, there are numerous documents – that you’ve no doubt not read or are even aware exist – that explain the responsibilities not just of Catholics but particularly of Catholic politicians. The Catechism of the Catholic Church is a good place to start as it explains the moral duties of elected Catholic politicians. Also, I would note that the tenor of your last few sentences belies the idea that you are not interested in labeling who is or is not truly Catholic in your eyes.

    We have a secular government, not a Christian government although some seem to think it is.

    A rather trivial non sequitur that avoids the duties and responsibilities of elected Catholic politicians.

    So many of these so-called pro-life politicians have no problem voting for killing machines such as the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter –

    Unless you can demonstrate otherwise, I am not aware of any admonitions against methods of legitimate military self-defense. Seeing as there are no admonitions against particular fighter planes, your point is once again a non sequitur.

    Now we have Catholic state legislators who want to make miscarriages a crime and charge these women with murder.

    Yeah, this is pretty much completely made up. You might want to do research that goes beyond Facebook memes.
    Of course, these same hypocrites are the first to take their teenage daughters to Planned Parenthood when they discover the little darling has a muffin in the oven.

    I’m not sure if you’re just projecting here, but again, this really makes no sense and suggests that you are completely flailing in an attempt to make an argument.

    I get it – you really can’t express why you disagree with the blog post and as such lack the ability to make fact-based arguments as to why Nancy Pelosi’s position is the correct one, or why arguments for her excommunication are invalid. Nancy Pelosi votes to keep Democrats in power and to waste trillions of dollars of taxpayer dollars, and let’s face it – that’s a lot more important to people such as yourself than defending marriage or the unborn. And that’s cool – but let’s stop pretending that you’re the one really upholding the meaning of what it is to be Catholic. Because it’s just pathetic.

  • “It’s never degrading or un-Christian to call a spade, a spade.” It is if you’re referring to the actual person. Love the sinner, hate the sin. Dr. Bernard Nathanson- unapologetic abortionist, founder of NARAL and an atheistic Jew-died excruciatingly repentant and completely Catholic. If there is hope for him there is hope for Ms. Pelosi.

  • “It is if you’re referring to the actual person.”

    Not at all. The best confession I ever had was when a crusty old priest strongly and bluntly took me to task for my sins. I tremble at how many souls are lost due to the addiction of many Christians to a mealy mouthed religion of nice uber alles.

  • I agree with Donald. The mentor of my 12 step mentor was an old Franciscan priest and my Confessor. He was quite specific: “So you’re a garden variety drunk: a liar, a thief, a cheat, and a sex pervert. What exactly are you then willing to do to have God remove your character defects? Or do you prefer to die a drunk and go to hell?” He didn’t stop there. Mealy-mouthed religion kills. “Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand” saves.

  • Donald R. McClarey wrote, “The best confession I ever had was when a crusty old priest took me to task for my sins.”

    I once passed out, after tying my shoelace outside the Palais de Justice. I have always had low blood-pressure (not a bad thing), so it happens occasionally. Now, the French are a nation of hypochondriacs, so I was promptly rushed into the Hôtel-Dieu (great name for a hospital; it was built by St Landry in 661) about 100m away.

    M. L’Aumônier [The Almoner, as they call the chaplain}, summoned by my panicky Law Agent (who, by the by is Jewish) came into my cubicle in Casualty and, without any preliminaries, kicked off with « Pécheur, humilies-toi devant la pesante main de Dieu ! » [Sinner, humble yourself under the heavy hand of God] and we took it from there.

    The thought occurred to me that, perhaps, my hour had really come and, when he handed me a crucifix, I found myself murmuring the lines of Tibullus,
    “Te spectem, suprema mihi cum venerit hora,
    Et teneam moriens deficiente manu.”
    [May I gaze on you when my last hour comes; may I hold you, as I sink, in my dying clasp.]
    Odd, in retrospect, that a pagan love poem should best express my feelings at such a moment, but the old Abbé beamed approval, and patted my hand.

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Lying Worthless Political Hack = Gosnell

Friday, June 14, AD 2013

The Lying Worthless Political Hack, a/k/a Nancy minority leader of the House, has never been noted for either intellectual or verbal coherence but she outdid herself in her response to a question by John McCormack of The Weekly Standard:

At a Thursday press conference, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi condemned a bill that would prohibit abortions during the final four months of pregnancy with an exception for when the life and physical health of the mother is at risk.

Asked what the moral difference is between what Dr. Kermit Gosnell did to babies born alive and aborting those same infants moments before birth, Pelosi refused to answer.

 

 

THE WEEKLY STANDARD: Madam Leader, you mentioned the bill that passed out of the House Judiciary committee. Members who have proposed that bill have done that in the wake of this murder trial in Philadelphia.  They argue that there really isn’t much of a moral difference between what someone like Dr. Gosnell did to infants born at 23, 24, 25 weeks into pregnancy, and what can happen [legally] at a clinic down the road in Maryland where a doctor says he’ll perform an elective abortions 28 weeks into pregnancy. So the question I have for you is what is the moral difference between what Dr. Gosnell did to a baby born alive at 23 weeks and aborting her moments before birth?

PELOSI: You’re probably enjoying that question a lot, I can see you savoring it. [Laughter in press corps] Let me just tell you this.

TWS: Could you answer the question?

PELOSI: Let me just tell you this. What was done in Philadelphia was reprehensible and everybody condemned it. For them to decide to disrespect a judgment a woman makes about her reproductive health is reprehensible. Next question.

TWS: So what’s the moral difference? I just asked a simple question. … What’s the moral difference then between 26 weeks elective abortion and the killing of that same infant born alive. This is the issue that they’re trying to–

PELOSI: This is not the issue. They are saying that there’s no abortion. It would make it a federal law that there would be no abortion in our country. You’re taking the extreme case. You’re taking the extreme case. And what I’m saying to you what happened in Philadelphia was reprehensible. And I do not think you.

TWS: [Inaudible]

PELOSI: I’m not going to have this conversation with you because you obviously have an agenda. You’re not interested in having an answer.

TWS: [Inaudible]

PELOSI: I’ve responded to you to the extent that I’m going to respond to you. Because I want to tell you something. As the mother of five children, my oldest child was 6 years old the day I brought my 5th child home from the hospital, as a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground to me when we talk about this. I don’t think it should have anything to do with politics. And that’s where you’re taking it and I’m not going there.

TWS [after tape ends]: It was a simple question. You didn’t answer.

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  • If only Dante could have witnessed this and incorporated American left-wing politicians into the Inferno.

  • She knew she was caught and brought out her pat answer. “I’m more qualified to speak on this because I have children. This issue is not political.” I thought TWS made it clear they wanted to know the moral difference, not the political difference.

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  • Alphatron,

    I apologize that I disagree. Dante would not have wasted ink or rhyme on such a nitwit, be she ere so vile.

    .

  • The failure of the bishops to take action against politicians like Pelosi and friends is absolutely reprehensible. What are the bishops afraid of? What do they think will happen if they excommunicate people like Pelosi, Biden and Sebelius? I know there are certain procedures that have to be followed under canon law, but enough is enough. Time to start dropping the hammer on these clowns.

  • “If one wants to know what is wrong with the Church in America, one has to only ask why this ‘Catholic’ abortion uber alles disgrace wasn’t excommunicated decades ago.”

    Jesus said to the Church at Thyatira:

    But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and beguiling my servants to practice immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her immorality. Behold, I will throw her on a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her doings; and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches shall know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve. [Revelation 2:20-23]

    And the prophet Ezekiel writes concerning shepherds who don’t protect the flock:

    The word of the LORD came to me: “Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say to them, even to the shepherds, Thus says the Lord GOD: Ho, shepherds of Israel who have been feeding yourselves! Should not shepherds feed the sheep? You eat the fat, you clothe yourselves with the wool, you slaughter the fatlings; but you do not feed the sheep. The weak you have not strengthened, the sick you have not healed, the crippled you have not bound up, the strayed you have not brought back, the lost you have not sought, and with force and harshness you have ruled them. So they were scattered, because there was no shepherd; and they became food for all the wild beasts. My sheep were scattered, they wandered over all the mountains and on every high hill; my sheep were scattered over all the face of the earth, with none to search or seek for them. “Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the LORD: As I live, says the Lord GOD, because my sheep have become a prey, and my sheep have become food for all the wild beasts, since there was no shepherd; and because my shepherds have not searched for my sheep, but the shepherds have fed themselves, and have not fed my sheep; therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the LORD: Thus says the Lord GOD, Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my sheep at their hand, and put a stop to their feeding the sheep; no longer shall the shepherds feed themselves. I will rescue my sheep from their mouths, that they may not be food for them. [Ezekiel 34:1-10]

    The whirlwind is coming.

  • “The failure of the bishops to take action against politicians like Pelosi and friends is absolutely reprehensible. What are the bishops afraid of?”

    I think a certain number are not afraid. Some are so blinded by a false sense of social justice that they tolerate Pelosi in the hopes of moving forward what ultimately is a false agenda.

    Unfortunately, I also think there are some who believe as Pelosi does.

  • T Shaw, unfortunately only the nitwits are in power- the cream of that crop. The lowest of the low.

    We have them here on Australia, except our Prime Minister, a woman (if you call her that) is using the abortion card as a desperate last minute attempt to gain popularity before the september election. What a vile breed of ruling class we have today. As a woman, I fume when I her her talk of representing the “woman” view.

    Politician or not, I can’t think if anything but what low life’s these people are. And ridiculously illogical, manipulative and completely untrustworthy. But,

    God is Just and He sees all….

  • Come on, T Shaw. Surely you must be curious as to what punishment might be dreamed up for these hacks? Okay, maybe Dante wouldn’t touch it, but perhaps the made-for-TV version can incorporate them. The trouble is, where do you stick them? They could end up anywhere from fourth to the ninth circle.

  • I’d put her (Wilson, FDR and thousands) and all progressives down (lowest level) with Brutus, Cassius, and Judas. They’re ruining the Constitution/Republic, which is (as Dante saw the Roman Empire; Ciardi notes/Paradiso: The Eagle – divinely ordained worldly arm to advance Christendom) fundamental to God’s plan for human happiness.

    Satan will require a fourth, massive maw.

    Still, Pelosi may get a “pass” from St. Peter for “diminished capacity.”

  • “Satan will require a fourth, massive maw.”

    I think that will be enough speculation along those lines.

  • Nancy mis-spoke. She was trying to say (…this is satanic ground to me.)
    She had a Freudian slip….deep in her heart she wants to worship and serve the Sacred.
    Her confusion is the norm. Just ask uncle Joe.
    By the way where’s the other catholic J.Biden?

  • There isn’t much there there, and perhaps there never was.

  • Well in that case I would like a pass for stupidity every now and then. Except my stupidity doesn’t affect laws that kill innocents in their hundreds and thousands…

    I honestly think that Biden is secretly a robot programmed by the CIA. The man never sounded nor resembled a human to me.

    The mind boggles how someone so idiotic and stale could be the Vice President of The United States of America. I’m still waiting for the memo from DC to come out that says it was all a prank! And that Nancy Poop-head Pelosi had a face transplant.

    Oops better be careful cause your government is secretly downloading these blog comment for their surveillance. Then again, maybe thats a good thing- those nitwits will get the note about how useless they are. One comment at a time…

  • Sarcasm aside; the hypocrisy that Nancy, Joe and pro-abort catholics have embraced is frightening. May I find the humility to pray for them, and stop looking for ways to jab them.

  • The mind boggles how someone so idiotic and stale could be the Vice President of The United States of America.

    It is essentially an appointive position. If you run down the list of Barack Obama’s cabinet secretaries, the quasi cabinet positions in the executive chamber, and the ten most consequential free-standing agencies, you find his corps of senior appointments amounts to about 45 individuals. About five came out of the business world (one of whom was held over from the previous administration). You have four soldiers, around three from the science and engineering trade, a couple of economists (one held over from the previous administration), a non-practicing architect, a foundation executive, and a career spook (held over from the previous administration). The majority are politicians, congressional staff, or (politically-connected) lawyers. He prefers the company of people who are as vapid as he is.

  • Ah, so morality has no place in politics? From the same congresswoman who begs upon our conscience to “serve” the poor through corrupt bureaucracies that engage in the targeting of political opponents and privileging political friends and that rarely ever actually help the poor.

  • I am beginning to believe that this woman has never had a rational thought. Twisted, twisted, twisted!

  • I hope everyone who made a comment on this thread has their tax records in order. The IRS is coming to audit you.

  • Fear the consequences of remaining silent when the stench of rotting injustices fills your nostrils. Otherwise the walk to the gulag will be shameful for you.

  • Politics are essentially coercion and deceit.

  • “I hope everyone who made a comment on this thread has their tax records in order. The IRS is coming to audit you.”

    A few months ago that would have been paranoid. Not so much now.

  • “I hope everyone who made a comment on this thread has their tax records in order. The IRS is coming to audit you.”

    Right now, I feel like a brawl. I’d even look forward to it.

  • Donald, you respect and revere the Law. These people have no respect, no reverence for the Law. They play beneath the Law, holding it in disdain, contempt and disgust. So personally, I hope you never get in any such brawl, legal or physical.

  • Since the death of my son Paul, I am ready for a fight, and I have been involved in a few during the course of my career.

  • Then I will put you on my Rosary.

  • “Asked what the moral difference is between what Dr. Kermit Gosnell did to babies born alive and aborting those same infants moments before birth, Pelosi refused to answer. ”

    “I’ve responded to you to the extent that I’m going to respond to you. Because I want to tell you something. As the mother of five children, my oldest child was 6 years old the day I brought my 5th child home from the hospital, as a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground to me when we talk about this. I don’t think it should have anything to do with politics. And that’s where you’re taking it and I’m not going there.”

    Working the press room for points in truth-twisting and unkindness.

  • I remember that Mr. McClarey posted an excerpt from a book about Pelosi that described her family’s political history in Baltimore. He was a Democrat crook – in Baltimore, a common occurrence then and now.

    Pelosi says stupid things every time she opens her mouth because she gets away with it.

  • AMEN to your comments about this devil!! Why has she NOT been excommunicated??

  • Hasn’t she been told not to present herself for the Eucharist?

  • Barbara

    Excommunication is a penal sanction imposed by a judge (or declared to have been incurred, in the case of automatic excommunication [latae sententiae])

    As then Cardinal Ratzinger’s 2004 Memorandum made clear, refusal of the Eucharist under Canon 915 “is not a sanction or a penalty. Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgment on the person’s subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person’s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.”

    The two should be carefully distinguished. This is clear from Canon 915 itself: “Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and others obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion.”

  • I would not hold Thomas d’Alessandro, Jr. responsible for his daughter’s offenses. Maryland had a (comparatively) lousy political culture prior to about 1975, but I think it was generally abuses of the take – bribes – shakedown – city – contractors – stick- your – cousins – and – your – clubhouse – clients – in – no – show – city jobs sort. It is difficult to believe that papa d’Alessandro would have dirtied himself with dealings with Planned Parenthood. Pelosi’s career as an elected official post-dates her father’s death.

  • St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!

    Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the Divine Power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spiritis that roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.

    PS – that includes the ones whose claws are firmly sunk into the souls of those who promote ideas contrary to the Will of God in our government.

    Amen.

  • (Matthew 4:8-11; Mark 1:12-13; Luke 4:1-13): The Devil took Jesus atop a high mountain and showed Him all the World’s kingdoms in their splendor. “All of this I will give you,” said Satan, “if you kneel down and worship me.”

    “Nuff said.

Lying Worthless Political Hack Sees Pro-Life Dead People

Friday, August 10, AD 2012

 

 

 

“Sweeter even than to have had the joy of caring for children of my own has it been to me to help bring about a better state of things for mothers generally, so their unborn little ones could not be willed away from them.”

Susan B. Anthony

 

Former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, a\k\a the Lying Worthless Political Hack has been in the habit of making bizarre statements on a regular basis throughout her political career.  However, she recently topped herself:

 

My chair was getting crowded in,” said Pelosi. “I swear this happened, never happened before, it never happened since.”

“My chair was getting crowded in and I couldn’t figure out what it was, it was like this,” she said.

“And then I realized Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Lucretia Mott, Alice Paul, Sojourner Truth, you name it, they were all in that chair, they were,” said Pelosi. “More than I named and I could hear them say: ‘At last we have a seat at the table.’ And then they were gone.”

Well, okay.  Assuming that the Lying Worthless Political Hack wasn’t simply hitting the sauce early in the day, I wonder what these ghosts would say to Pelosi.  Considering that Pelosi is a total pro-abort, perhaps they would have said something like this:

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  • Power to the people!

    Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment . . . No, wait!

    They figured out how not to count soldiers’ votes, maybe they can discount women’s votes, too.

  • “Assuming that the Lying Worthless Political Hack wasn’t simply hitting the sauce…”

    Perhaps Botox got to her brain.

  • May almighty God descend upon you and remain with you forever, Donald McClarey. Next to Holy Scripture, our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution this post stands forever.

  • Phillip: It is not Nancy Pelosi’s brain, it is her heart that has ceased.

  • As far as the 2012 election, the pro-choice issue is the one issue that I disagree with in
    the presidential election. I am whole heartedly supporting Obama in the medical and social issues, but I, as many Catholics, cannot support anyone who says it is okay to destroy a human life in its mother’s womb.

  • Women had by that time held 11 of the 15 cabinet offices. Rice and Spellings were cabinet secretaries at the time. But the spirits rushed right past them and sat down with Nancy Pelosi, because that was the first time that women had a seat at the table.

    If the most important thing was having a woman at the table, if she had had a cold that day, would she have sent Bachmann in her place? Because after all, the ghosts of women had been waiting for this day, it wouldn’t have been right to send Hoyer.

  • The part about the seat at the table, more than her getting crowded by whom the vision entailed, reminds me of some words of Jesus from the Gospels on seats at tables and vision sources.

    Matthew 23: 1 – 36
    Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying,

    “The scribes and the Pharisees have taken their seat on the chair of Moses.
    Therefore, do and observe all things whatsoever they tell you, but do not follow their example. For they preach but they do not practice.

    They tie up heavy burdens and lay them on people’s shoulders,
    but they will not lift a finger to move them.

    All their works are performed to be seen. They widen their phylacteries and lengthen their tassels.
    [ Before some comment, here is the history footnote for non-historians:
    …Phylacteries: the Mosaic law required that during prayer small boxes containing parchments on which verses of Scripture were written be worn on the left forearm and the forehead.
    …Tassels: The widening of phylacteries and lengthening of tassels were for the purpose of making these evidences of piety more noticeable.]

    They love places of honor at banquets, seats of honor in synagogues, greetings in marketplaces, and the salutation “Rabbi”. As for you, do not be called “Rabbi”.

    You have but one teacher, and you are all brothers. Call no one on earth your father; you have but one Father in heaven. Do not be called “Master”; you have but one master, the Messiah.

    The greatest among you must be your servant.

    Whoever exalts himself will be humbled; but whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

    Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites. You lock the kingdom of heaven before human beings. You do not enter yourselves, nor do you allow entrance to those trying to enter.

    Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites. You traverse land and sea to make one convert, and when that happens you make him a child of Gehenna twice as much as yourselves.

    [read vv 16 -22 because it’s so thoughtworthy ]

    Woe to you , scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites. You pay tithes of mint, and dill, and cummin and have neglected the weightier things of the law;
    judgment and mercy and fidelity. These things you should have done, without neglecting the others. Blind guides, who strain out the gnats and swallow the camel!

    Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites. You cleanse the outside of cup and dish, but inside they are full of plunder and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee, cleanse first the inside of the cup, so that the outside also may be clean.

    Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites. You are like whitewashed tombs, which appear beautiful on the outside, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and every kind of filth. Even so, on the outside you appear righteous, but inside you are filled with hypocrisy and evildoing.

    [ read 29 – 33 soberly ]

    Therefore, behold, I send you prophets and wise men and scribes;
    some of them you will kill and crucify,
    some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and pursue from town to town, so that there may come upon you all the righteous blood shed upon earth, from the righteous blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, whom you murdered between the santuary and the altar. Amen, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.”

    … all the righteous blood shed these days has to include that of the most innocent babes and Christians in the way of those at the table these days.

  • All,
    This politician is getting what she wants, to make all of us talk about a subject she wants to promote. Remember she sold her soul more than once for earthly gains. She has problems she does not want to admit here.She needs prayer and nothing else. i chose to ignore her.

Lying Worthless Political Hack and Ex Cathedra

Saturday, June 9, AD 2012

 

 

When the Lying Worthless Political Hack, aka Nancy Pelosi ex Speaker of the House, opens her mouth in regard to her purported faith, The Catholic Church, you know the results are going to be unintentionally hilarious:

CNSNews.com asked Pelosi, who is Catholic, whether she supported her  church in the lawsuits it has filed, which argue that the  administration’s regulation violates the freedom of religion guaranteed  by the First Amendment.

What about the 43 Catholic institutions [that] have now sued the  administration over the regulation that requires them to provide  contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients in their health care  plans?” CNSNews.com asked. “They say that violates their religious  freedom.  Do you support the Catholic Church in their lawsuits against  the administration?”

Well, I don’t think that’s the entire Catholic Church,” Pelosi  responded. “Those people have a right to sue, but I don’t think they’re  speaking ex cathedra for the Catholic Church.

“And there are people in the Catholic Church, including some of the  bishops, who have suggested that some of this may be premature,” Pelosi said.

It is unclear why Pelosi would have pointed out that when an archbishop—such as Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, Cardinal Donald  Wuerl of Washington, D.C. or Archbishop Carlson of St. Louis—sues the federal government in actions designed to protect the First Amendment rights of  American Catholics he is not speaking “ex cathedra.”

“Ex cathedra” refers to the infallible authority that Catholics believe the pope exerts when he makes a formal and solemn declaration on  matters of faith and morals. It is not a term to describe lawsuits the church files in civilian courts.

In a 1993 audience, Pope John Paul II quoted the first Vatican  Council in explaining the Catholic understanding of the “ex cathedra”  authority of the pope.

When the Roman Pontiff speaks ex cathedra, that is, when in exercising his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians he defines with his supreme apostolic authority that a doctrine on faith and morals is to be held by the whole Church, through the divine assistance promised him in the person of St. Peter, he enjoys that  infallibility with which the divine Redeemer wished to endow his Church  in defining a doctrine on faith and morals,” said the Vatican Council.

The Catholic teachings that sterilization, artificial contraception and abortion are morally wrong—the basis for the suits that the archdioceses, dioceses, universities, schools and charitable organizations have brought against the Obama  administration–are in fact inalterable teachings that the church says are rooted in natural law.

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35 Responses to Lying Worthless Political Hack and Ex Cathedra

  • She’ll be made a Cardinal in the new government sponsored “catholic” Church. As a theologian, logistician, and general brainiac, she is held in the highest regard by wannabe Pope Obama. His ignorance, Joseph “I see no difference in a man marrying a man” Biden also is a great admirer of Ms. Pelosi. This sacred trio, along with a supporting cast of apostates, headed up by that grand old gal Kathleen Sebilius, is looking forward to a long reign over their baby murdering, homosexual marrying, euthanizing, flock.

  • What Catholic theologian ever suggested a Pope is infallible in his laws, or in his commands, or in his acts of state, or in his administration, nor in his public policy?

  • When I read or hear anything about Nancy Pelosi, I automatically think of the Great Whore of Babylon in Revelation 17 and 18. I realize that St. John’s reference is more to a place (e.g., a city or nation) than a person, but nevertheless, mention of Pelosi always elicts this imagery in Revelation 17:1-6.

    1 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”

    3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written:

    MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
    THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
    AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS
    OF THE EARTH.

    6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement.

  • Nah Paul, the Book of Revelations is not the book for Pelosi. Now this is the book for her:

    http://classiclit.about.com/od/brantsebastian/fr/afprshipoffools.htm

  • I sit corrected again! 😉

    How appropriate for this Administration and the Senate: “A Ship of Fools.”

    “Brant was a preacher of words set to rhyme. In 112 chapters, he describes the effects of having strayed from God and of engaging in irrational circumstances. Brant laced his work with satirical observations, thus the ‘Ship of Fools’ offers readers an often tragicomic perspective on the effects of the protagonists’ conduct. The fools would like to sail for Narragonia (from German Narr for ‘fool’), a fool’s paradise, a desired utopia. Nevertheless, the author also suggests how foolish conduct can be defeated: by living the life that respects the will and the demands of God.”

    I like that term: “Narragonia”.

    I never heard of this book. I shall now have to buy and read it. Thanks, Donald.

  • Pelosi is important because she is textbook dissident when she throws the ex cathedra card. They really believe that the only two unambiguously ex cathedra pronouncements are the Immaculate Conception and Assumption–and somehow that means everything else is negotiable under the rubric of “Primacy of conscience”. Well, even five minutes of perusal tells you that what they hold isn’t primacy of conscience, but moral relativism disguised as primacy of conscience with the help of some cherry-picked, or flat-out wrong quotes from Aquinas, Ratzinger from the 60’s, et al.

  • The Pope is infallible when the Pope speaks the TRUTH. If the TRUTH is not the TRUTH, then it is a lie…perjury, sin. The Pope speaks the TRUTH and is infallible “ex-cathedera”, as the Vicar of Jesus Christ. Pelosi cannot be infallible or speak “ex-cathedra” because Pelosi is not ordained, nor is Pelosi able to espouse the Bride of Christ. In speaking of the Blessed Virgin, Holy Scripture says: “Her voice was not heard in the assembly”. Pelosi’s voice will not be heard in the assembly, because only TRUTH is to be spoken and heard in the streets and in the assembly.

  • It has occurred to me that Pelosi is not a fool. Pelosi uses her fallibility to lie, cheat and steal.

  • Thanks for the book recommendation, Don. Kindle link is here: http://amzn.to/KGpHRI

    Interesting point, Mary. How quick the left is to raise the specter of “ex cathedra” in this situation irrespective of its non-application and yet quickly turn around and make proclamations themselves that they believe are de facto ex-cathedra.

  • The dismissive attitude is typical of liberals. I’ve seen this in dealing with local school administration. Unless you have unanimous participation by the whole population, they’ll dismiss your concerns and “not representative of everyone”. Of course, they don’t apply that standard to themselves, so if you point out to Pelosi or Seblius that their positions are actually in the minority, and not representative of everyone, or even of most, you get a blank stare back. With maybe a couple of blinks thrown in for emphasis.

  • Why the Church tolerates her is beyond me. She should have been ex-communicated long ago, along with Ted Kennedy and Joe Biden. So-called “Catholics” like these is what has kept me away from the church.

  • “So called ‘Catholics’ like these is what has kept me away from the church.”

    I get your drift and I understand your frustration with why this is allowed to continue. That said, and with all due respect…. how does YOUR staying away from the Church — if you believe it to be the Body of Christ, you believe its teachings to be true, and you believe its sacraments to be genuine sources of grace — do anything to convert sinners, or save your own soul? Isn’t that a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face?

    I suppose the idea is that if enough people stop attending and giving money to the Church until pro-abort Catholic pols like Pelosi, et. al., are excommunicated, eventually the hierarchy will get the message. However, I think the actual effect would be just the opposite . If faithful pro-life Catholics stay home, then the pews are going to be populated, if at all, strictly by liberal pro-choice Catholics or those who really don’t care too much about life issues. In other words we would be destroying the Church in order to “save” it.

  • If it’s any consolation Joe she will be held that much more culpable. In any event don’t let the bishops keep you from doing the right thing. The Lord promised that the gates of Hades wouldn’t prevail against His Church not that he would spare us from the insufferable US Bishops.

  • “They say that violates their religious freedom. Do you support the Catholic Church in their lawsuits against the administration?”

    “Well, I don’t think that’s the entire Catholic Church,” Pelosi responded. “Those people have a right to sue, but I don’t think they’re speaking ex cathedra for the Catholic Church.

    “And there are people in the Catholic Church, including some of the bishops, who have suggested that some of this may be premature,” Pelosi said.

    Those people have a right to sue … those people with that ‘conscience thing’.

    Eroding, eroding, eroding so some day every one can just mindlessly go for all the varieties of death her admin offers and enjoy the perversions of nature on the way there. Questioners will be answered with fly swatters.

  • “As a devout catholic I disagree with church leaders when I am at work, but I have full respect for them.” this is either a lie or a flat out lie, talk about lack of integrity “I disagree with you at work, but I still agree with you as a catholic.” balone.

  • There should be a “or” in between “a” and “lie”.

  • Well, I don’t think that’s the entire Catholic Church,” Pelosi responded. “Those people have a right to sue, but I don’t think they’re speaking ex cathedra for the Catholic Church.”
    It is the duty of the state, the government, Pelosi, Obama, Biden to protect Religious Freedom. The government has chosen to delete Religious Freedom for our First Amendment, trample on sovereign personhood, make beasts of burden of men and property of the state of citizens.The bishops speak not only for evey Catholic Church member but for every citizen, every constitutent, every person ever created to be equal and free. FREEDOM

  • Obama, Pelosi, Biden, Sebelius, the whole lot of them would not be here if their parents had aborted or contracepted them. The whole lot of them would not be here if they had no parents, only practicing homosexuals. INGRATES. iNGRATES TAKING OUR MONEY TO ENSLAVE US.
    Yeah. I guess they would be perturbed by the bishops saying “WHO IS LIKE UNTO GOD”

    Pelosi, Pelosi, anyone, Going once, going twice, do I hear Pelosi? Gone to the devil.

  • Than again Mary Obama is a Bastard son so he obviously didn’t get enough fatherly love to know right from wrong, he has enough self-esteem but not enough objectivity to counter balance his self-esteem.

  • Pope Benedict XVI called Pelosi into his office and spoke with her for about twenty minutes. Pelsoi’s “it is not “ex-cathedra” probably means she will not comply. The Ten Commandments are “ex-cathedra”. Jesus itemized the Commandmants in the Gospel.

  • “Why the Church tolerates her is beyond me. She should have been ex-communicated long ago, along with Ted Kennedy and Joe Biden. So-called “Catholics” like these is what has kept me away from the church.” I appreciate Elaine Krewer’s response. If these people do not like it. They can leave. Some years back I had to attend Mass with the people who murdered my brother. I ran from the chuch in tears. I stopped. I returned to the Mass. If they do not like it they can leave… and this goes for the not too Catholic Bishops, theologians and Pelosi.

  • Valentin: “Than again Mary Obama is a Bastard son so he obviously didn’t get enough fatherly love to know right from wrong, he has enough self-esteem but not enough objectivity to counter balance his self-esteem.”
    Obama’s parents gave him LIFE. America gave Obama LIBERTY. God gave Obama FREEDOM (the pursuit of Happiness). OBAMA NEEDS TO SHARE AND SHARE THE FREEDOM ENDOWED BY GOD. The bishops are giving Obama fatherly love right now.

  • Yes Mary it is true that his parents gave him life but his father left him when he was 2 so at least in his younger days he probably did not recieve much fatherly love. You are right though that The Bishops are giving him some sort of fatherly love as they should considering that they are supposed to tell people right from wrong and serve us the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.

  • That is if the people getting served are ready so that their souls don’t burn.

  • Amazing lack of charity toward the persons on these posts. I thought our Founding Brother Jesus said to love not hate, to treat others as we would wish for ourselves, and that what we do to others classes us as Sheep or Goats. St Augustine says ” we love the sinner but hate the sin.”

  • Christ was pretty good about calling a spade a spade while loving the sinner:

    “Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples,

    2 Saying: The scribes and the Pharisees have sitten on the chair of Moses.

    3 All things therefore whatsoever they shall say to you, observe and do: but according to their works do ye not; for they say, and do not.

    4 For they bind heavy and insupportable burdens, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but with a finger of their own they will not move them.

    5 And all their works they do for to be seen of men. For they make their phylacteries broad, and enlarge their fringes.

    6 And they love the first places at feasts, and the first chairs in the synagogues,

    7 And salutations in the market place, and to be called by men, Rabbi.

    8 But be not you called Rabbi. For one is your master; and all you are brethren.

    9 And call none your father upon earth; for one is your father, who is in heaven.

    10 Neither be ye called masters; for one is you master, Christ.

    11 He that is the greatest among you shall be your servant.

    12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be humbled: and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

    13 But woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men, for you yourselves do not enter in; and those that are going in, you suffer not to enter.

    14 Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites: because you devour the houses of widows, praying long prayers. For this you shall receive the greater judgment.

    15 Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you go round about the sea and the land to make one proselyte; and when he is made, you make him the child of hell twofold more than yourselves.

    16 Woe to you blind guides, that say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but he that shall swear by the gold of the temple, is a debtor.

    17 Ye foolish and blind; for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

    18 And whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gift that is upon it, is a debtor.

    19 Ye blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

    20 He therefore that sweareth by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things that are upon it:

    21 And whosoever shall swear by temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth in it:

    22 And he that sweareth by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

    23 Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you tithe mint, and anise, and cummin, and have left the weightier things of the law; judgment, and mercy, and faith. These things you ought to have done, and not to leave those undone.

    24 Blind guides, who strain out a gnat, and swallow a camel.

    25 Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness.

    26 Thou blind Pharisee, first make clean the inside of the cup and of the dish, that the outside may become clean.

    27 Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you are like to whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear to men beautiful, but within are full of dead men’s bones, and of all filthiness.

    28 So you also outwardly indeed appear to men just; but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

    29 Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; that build the sepulchres of the prophets, and adorn the monuments of the just,

    30 And say: If we had been in the days of our Fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

    31 Wherefore you are witnesses against yourselves, that you are the sons of them that killed the prophets.

    32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

    33 You serpents, generation of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of hell?

    34 Therefore behold I send to you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them you will put to death and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city:

    35 That upon you may come all the just blood that hath been shed upon the earth, from the blood of Abel the just, even unto the blood of Zacharias the son of Barachias, whom you killed between the temple and the altar.

    36 Amen I say to you, all these things shall come upon this generation.

    37 Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered together thy children, as the hen doth gather her chickens under her wings, and thou wouldest not?

    38 Behold, you house shall be left to you, desolate.

    39 For I say to you, you shall not see me henceforth till you say: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”

  • Jesus’ condemnation of the hypocritical, rule-bending and burden binding efforts of the Teachers of His time did not contradict the Beatitudes which are co counter-cultural they are dismissed for the “real” world. His Last Supper new mandate, the mandatum, a new commandment I give – love one another. I repeat, we love the sinner but hate the sin. The language of several posts on here is neither Christian nor just. By the way, I did not vote for Mr Obama the first time, I saw his actual and hidden agenda from my study of how the atheism-secularism-anti Natural Law mentality creeps into societies

  • “The language of several posts on here is neither Christian nor just.”

    In your opinion Lone Thinker. It is never unChristian or unjust to tell the simple truth in either religion or politics.

  • Valentin: “some sort of fatherly love”? “some sort”? What the bishops are giving Obama is the TRUTH, the whole TRUTH, and nothing but the TRUTH. Abortion is murder. Obama is the servant of the people. The taxpayers are Obama’s employers. Being Obama’s constituent is shameful and painful. Every newly conceived human person is more qualified to be president by their innocence, their soul having not been sold to the devil. What did Obama expect? for the people and our bishops to roll over and play dead? It is called discipline, and patriotism. Obama has none of either. Obama’s contempt for the people he serves leaves me speechless.

  • There is a way of being FATHER-ly Valentin and also being corrective, disciplining. The model for ex-communication which St Paul shows is medicinal, not throwing the sinner under the bus, to convert, re-connect to the Body of Christ, the Church, DMcC. You seem to presume that telling the Truth has to be vulgar, insulting the person, instead of respecting the person while naming the sin. Jesus’ ultimate example of that was asking forgiveness for his accusers and those who engineered his death, because they did not know what they were doing. You seem to confuse tactics with goal. Each human is an eikon, image Greek of God who loves each unconditionally and knows the heart. That is why the Vatican or the Church has never ever named anyone who is in hell- not even Judas so we are asked in Matthew not to judge. The person, no- the objective action, yes.

  • LoneThinker wrote: “The model for ex-communication which St Paul shows is medicinal, not throwing the sinner under the bus, to convert, re-connect to the Body of Christ, the Church…”

    St. Paul wrote in 1st Corinthians 5:

    “1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! 2 And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed. 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.”

    To follow in St. Paul’s example, the Bishops in the USCCB would have to publicly turn Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and every other liberal Democrat Catholic politician over to satan for the destruction of their flesh.

    However, I like how our Blessed Lord Himself dealt with Jezebel at the Church of Thyatira; Nancy Pelosi merits nothing less. As St. John wrote in Revelation 2:20-23:

    “20 Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. 21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. 23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.”

    And let’s not forget Hymenaeus and Alexander in 1st Timothy 1:18-20:

    “18 This charge I commit to you, son Timothy, according to the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you may wage the good warfare, 19 having faith and a good conscience, which some having rejected, concerning the faith have suffered shipwreck, 20 of whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I delivered to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.”

    Last but not least, there is the example of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-11. They weren’t thrown under the bus. They were struck dead where they stood:

    1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession. 2 And he kept back part of the proceeds, his wife also being aware of it, and brought a certain part and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”

    5 Then Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and breathed his last. So great fear came upon all those who heard these things. 6 And the young men arose and wrapped him up, carried him out, and buried him.

    7 Now it was about three hours later when his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 And Peter answered her, “Tell me whether you sold the land for so much?”

    She said, “Yes, for so much.”

    9 Then Peter said to her, “How is it that you have agreed together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out.” 10 Then immediately she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. And the young men came in and found her dead, and carrying her out, buried her by her husband. 11 So great fear came upon all the church and upon all who heard these things.

  • “The model for ex-communication which St Paul shows is medicinal, not throwing the sinner under the bus,”

    Saint Paul was also no slouch at calling a spade a spade:

    “I wish that those who are upsetting you would castrate themselves!”

    “1 Know also this, that, in the last days, shall come dangerous times. 2 Men shall be lovers of themselves, covetous, haughty, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, wicked, 3 Without affection, without peace, slanderers, incontinent, unmerciful, without kindness, 4 Traitors, stubborn, puffed up, and lovers of pleasures more than of God: 5 Having an appearance indeed of godliness, but denying the power thereof. Now these avoid. 6 For of these sort are they who creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, who are led away with divers desires: 7 Ever learning, and never attaining to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Mambres resisted Moses, so these also resist the truth, men corrupted in mind, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 But they shall proceed no farther; for their folly shall be manifest to all men, as theirs also was. ”

    And with apologies to all Cretans reading the blog in Internet land:

    “One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretans are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
    This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;”

  • I use that line from Paul to show that even he, who wrote i Cor 13 and was such a pastoral Father to his flock “lost it” over the Judaizers who wanted to impose circumcision on his Celtic church ( Galatian in Asia, today’s Turkey church who were not ever Jewish. His anger was quite understandable with those snakes creeping in to undermine his work, even if we shudder at his language. There are ample examples of the OT where God promises all sorts of vile punishments and relented. I am sure Paul exaggerated when he labelled all Cretans just as some Protestants do it for all Catholics and Leftists and Rightists do it to the other side. Thoughtful people try to make their criticisms accurate and just and truthful. Enough said, Eucharistic Congress opening starts now.

  • Oy!

    If you love the sinner you will do the Spiritual Works for her/him.

    Admonish the sinner.

    Counsel the doubtful.

    Instruct the ignorant.

    A translation of an OT Bible dictum: “Spare the rod, hate the child.”

  • Refraining from throwing the lack-of-charity card means never having to double down on a losing hand.

Demography, Contraception and Fiscal Melt Down

Sunday, February 19, AD 2012

 

 It should be the highest ambition of every American to extend his views beyond himself, and to bear in mind that his conduct will not only affect himself, his country, and his immediate posterity; but that its influence may be co-extensive with the world, and stamp political happiness or misery on ages yet unborn.

George Washington

 

Mark Steyn at National Review Online, notes that the fiscal lunacy of the Obama administration and the HHS Mandate are linked:

 

As for us doom-mongers, at the House Budget Committee on Thursday, Chairman Paul Ryan produced another chart, this time from the Congressional Budget Office, with an even steeper straight line showing debt rising to 900 percent of GDP and rocketing off the graph circa 2075. America’s treasury secretary, Timmy Geithner the TurboTax Kid, thought the chart would have been even more hilarious if they’d run the numbers into the next millennium: “You could have taken it out to 3000 or to 4000” he chortled, to supportive titters from his aides. Has total societal collapse ever been such a non-stop laugh riot?

Yeah, right.” replied Ryan. “We cut it off at the end of the century because the economy, according to the CBO, shuts down in 2027 on this path.”

The U.S. economy shuts down in 2027? Had you heard about that? It’s like the ultimate Presidents’ Day sale: Everything must go — literally! At such a moment, it may seem odd to find the political class embroiled in a bitter argument about the Obama administration’s determination to force Catholic institutions (and, indeed, my company and your company, if you’re foolish enough still to be in business in the United States) to provide free prophylactics to their employees. The received wisdom among media cynics is that Obama has engaged in an ingenious bit of misdirection by seizing on a pop-culture caricature of Republicans and inviting them to live up to it: Those uptight squares with the hang-ups about fornication have decided to force you to lead the same cheerless sex lives as them. I notice that in their coverage NPR and the evening news shows generally refer to the controversy as being about “contraception,” discreetly avoiding mention of sterilization and pharmacological abortion, as if the GOP have finally jumped the shark in order to prevent you jumping anything at all.

It may well be that the Democrats succeed in establishing this narrative. But anyone who falls for it is a sap. In fact, these two issues — the Obama condoms-for-clunkers giveaway and a debt-to-GDP ratio of 900 percent by 2075 — are not unconnected. In Greece, 100 grandparents have 42 grandchildren — i.e., an upside-down family tree. As I wrote in this space a few weeks ago, “If 100 geezers run up a bazillion dollars’ worth of debt, is it likely that 42 youngsters will ever be able to pay it off?” Most analysts know the answer to that question: Greece is demographically insolvent. So it’s looking to Germany to continue bankrolling its First World lifestyle.

But the Germans are also demographically exhausted: They have the highest proportion of childless women in Europe. One in three fräulein have checked out of the motherhood business entirely. A nation that did without having kids of its own is in no mood to maintain Greece as the ingrate slacker who never moves out of the house. As the European debt crisis staggers on, these two countries loathe each other ever more nakedly: The Greek president brings up his war record against the German bullies, and Athenian commentators warn of the new Fourth Reich. The Germans, for their part, would rather cut the Greeks loose. In a post-prosperity West, social solidarity — i.e., socioeconomic fictions such as “Europe” — are the first to disappear.

The United States faces a mildly less daunting arithmetic. Nevertheless, the Baby Boomers did not have enough children to maintain mid-20th-century social programs. As a result, the children they did have will end their lives in a poorer, uglier, sicker, more divided, and more violent society. How to avert this fate? In 2009 Nancy Pelosi called for free contraceptives as a form of economic stimulus. Ten thousand Americans retire every day, and leave insufficient progeny to pick up the slack. In effect, Nancy has rolled a giant condom over the entire American economy.

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  • Obama — our Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning

  • You do know that our total debt as a percent of GDP fell from the end of WW2 until 1980 when our tax policy (not our spending) took a dramatic change. The percentage has since risen except for the 90’s when our tax policy briefly took a minor reversal from their current direction. The direction of the deficit and then the debt changed abruptly again as the tax policy changed in 2001. I know there are going to be many comments claiming it was all about spending, but that is not what the data shows. The relationships between tax policy and the point when the graphs of the current balance and the total debt change direction are clearly related to tax policy. The recent massive debt does have a spending component in that the severe recession we entered in 2008 did cause an increase in spending, but the larger effect was a decrease in tax collections due to the recession.

    I do disagree with the HSS ruling, but if we are going to show charts of rising debt, then we should lay the blame where if belongs. It belongs on our unwillingness to pay for the things we want. We were promised (both nationally and at the state level) that if we cut taxes we would see prosperity and increased . The lowest federal tax rate since WW2 at the federal level has brought massive deficits and the worst 10 years of employment since WW2. A 15 year recorded of increasing tax cuts in Michigan (coupled with the fall of the American auto industry) have devastated our state. At the very least we should stop seeing the claims that tax cuts will improve our economy and increase government revenues as a result since the evidence is to the contrary.

  • Justice and peace!

    Obama’s policies are destroying the evil, unjust private sector.

    It’s working.

    Pharaoh’s economic reports hide the huge decline in number of Americans with jobs.

    Mark Steyn: Obama, Romney and Santorum are talking about sex while the nation goes broke. Each day, 10,000 Americans retire but “leave insufficient progeny to pick up the slack. In effect, Obama has rolled a giant condom over the entire American economy.”

    America can’t employ more people.

    In 30 years, there will not be enough taxpayers to pay for the entitlement masses, $100,000,000,000,000.00 present value of cash flow due. Taxes won’t cover interest on the national debt.

    Then, grandpa will be left out in the cold.

    Justice and peace!

  • “The lowest federal tax rate since WW2 at the federal level has brought massive deficits and the worst 10 years of employment since WW2.”

    Complete hogwash Paul. No possible jacking up of the tax rates can possibly pay for our completely out of control entitlement spending, which is apparently insatiable. Your argument would have a tinge of merit if the European welfare states, paying higher taxe rates than we do, were not also on the same quick path to national bankruptcy.

  • And for those who might still labor under the illusion that congress and this admin-
    istration are in any way serious about this situation, please reflect on the fact that it
    has been almost three years since the federal government has had a budget.

  • No possible jacking up of the tax rates can possibly pay for our completely out of control entitlement spending, which is apparently insatiable.

    Federal spending is currently about 24% of domestic product. There is a mess of junk in the federal budget that ought to be excised, but that is a policy choice. We could certainly levy the taxes necessary to pay for it.

  • ‘The Obama administration is the perfect avatar for the all consumed in self mentality produced by a contraceptive culture that can see no further than the brief span of time this globe is occupied by those who currently inhabit it.’ Yup.

    George Washington’s quote ends with their choice – to stamp misery on ages yet unborn.

    Laughing at religion and conscience like silly jokers, talking about sex enough to train the needy national psyche away from their sleight of hand, and accommodating no one but their handlers with money.

    ‘ and leave insufficient progeny to pick up the slack. In effect, Nancy has rolled a giant condom over the entire American economy.’ As she said on the video, something like uh – more bang for the buck – er – that’s what the economists say.

  • The United States faces a mildly less daunting arithmetic. Nevertheless, the Baby Boomers did not have enough children to maintain mid-20th-century social programs.

    For the record, postwar birth cohorts have varied between 2.9 million and 4.3 million, with no secular trend in size. Our total fertility rate has been at replacement level or above for that entire time bar a brief run of years in the late 1970s. Escalating burdens of caring for the elderly have been a function of improved life expectancy, a problem which can be finessed by having the retirement age on an appropriate escalator.

  • To pay for entitlements Art would require doubling tax rates. Not only is that politically inconceivable, the impact on our economy can be imagined.

    http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/entitlements-double-tax-rates

  • Since the late Fifties Art, the rate of fertility has declined from 3.8 children per woman to 2.06 today. 2.10 is considered to be the replacement rate, and since 2000 we have been at that for only one year: 2008.

  • Given the Pelosi pic, I think a better title for the post should have been– “Demography, Comtaception, and Facial Meltdown.”. After all, the Pelosi facelifts are taxpayer supported.

  • Don, please tell me what I said that is hogwash. The federal tax revenues are the lowest as a percentage of GDP since WW2. The 10 years of employment since 2001 (when the income tax rates were cut followed by tax cuts on capital gains and dividends) are the worst since WW2. I could give you numerous links including the federal government’s budget page. Also, do you deny that our budget was in surplus before the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003?

    As for entitlements, the problem continues to be Medicare, yet every proposal to fix the problem by doing what has been successful in every other country is rejected in this one.
    As compared to the European welfare states please the chart below. The data is sorted by the larges Debt as a percentage of GDP by country. Of the welfare states in Europe that have economies comparable to the US, you could only rank Italy as having a higher debt burden than the US. And only the UK has come anywhere close to the US in the increase of debt from 2000 to 2010 (I included the 2009 numbers to demonstrate that this did not all occur under President Obama). The problem in Europe is that they decide to include countries like Greece in the Euro zone and Germany absorbed East Germany. These actions are close to the US agreeing to a common currency with Mexico, this might help Mexico but would be a significant burden.

    National debt as a percentage of GDP
    2009 2009-2000 2010 2010-2000
    Japan 197 66 220 89
    Italy 109 2 119 12
    United States 67 22 94.36 49.36
    Germany 73 14 83.96 24.96
    Canada 65 -6 83.95 12.95
    France 80 21 82.33 23.33
    United Kingdom 59 17 75.5 33.5
    India* 66 -4 71.84 1.84
    Brazil* 66 -2 66.84 -1.16
    Spain 56 -7 60.12 -2.88
    China* 32 9 3 3.83 10.83
    South Korea 31 18 33.44 20.44
    Russia* 5 -14 11.75 -7.25

    Sorry to be so long winded in a com box, but I felt the need to respond.

  • Sorry, I spent 20 minutes trying to format the chart and then the columns still did not line up.

  • The pig’s not getting any cleaner Paul. A more pertinent list is that of the total national debt as a percentage of the country’s annual gross domestic product. Go to the link below to view the list.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

    The numbers for most of the European nations are especially shocking when consideration is given that they spend next to nothing on defense as compared to the US.

    The idea that the solution to this problem is to raise taxes is simply wrong. The only solution is to radically slash government spending and such a solution will come, probably after the financial crash the West is inevitably headed for.

  • Integrity I wish Obama had some.

  • Don, Still you said my original post was hogwash and make the claim that the answer is not raising taxes. Although I agree the answer is not just raising taxes. Anyone who would claim that the federal government (or any other institution) could not improve it’s efficiency would be silly. However, you have yet to answer what part of The current take of the federal government being the lowest since WW2 or the decade of job performance since the taxes were dropped were “hogwash.” Plus you avoid commenting of the fact that we had a surplus before taxes were cut in the early 2000’s.

  • We did not have a surplus under Clinton Paul. We had the dot.com bubble, a Republican Congress and blue smoke and mirrors with social security funds.

    http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

    If the Bush tax cuts were completely repealed, we could expect to have around 200 billion a year in additional taxes. The deficit for this year is estimated to be 1.327 trillion dollars. Increasing taxes isn’t even a bandage on the underlying problem of run away entitlement spending.

  • Yes Don, unfortunately when the social security taxes were doubled in the 1980’s President Reagan insisted that SS funds were counted in the deficit calculations. And that did allow the issue that the article points out. It is also true that President Clinton had the advantage of the computer industry expansion and dot com bubble to the income side. But Pres. Clinton does deserve credit for stopping his party from spending the money and he stopped the Republican party from issuing tax cuts instead of responsibly reducing our deficit during good times. If you don’t believe this draw a graph of the current balance of the federal government from 1980 through 2010. It has a point of inflection at two points. In 1993 it changes from constantly going more negative to going less negative. In 2001 it changes from constantly going less negative to going more negative. The curvature did not change when congress changed from Democratic to Republican in 1995, nor did it change when the congress went back again in 2008. It changed when President Clinton gained control of the budget process and it changed again President Bush gained control of the process. There is a lot President Clinton did I do not agree with, and some things I find abhorrent, but if the data does not show you that he was responsible for the improving current balance of the federal budget during the 1990’s than you are choosing not to look.

    By the way, you still have not pointed which of my original comments are “hogwash.” Since this is a nice way of saying I am lying, I wish you would at least attempt to support the claim in some way.

  • To pay for entitlements Art would require doubling tax rates. Not only is that politically inconceivable, the impact on our economy can be imagined.

    Heritage is an advocacy group. They are not necessarily going to be terribly explicit about it that when they speak of the federal income tax they are not discussing the whole menu of federal or state taxes. The federal income tax comprehends about half of all federal tax collections and about a quarter of all tax collections.

    As we speak, the ratio of federal tax collections to domestic product is 0.149. I believe that is lower than it has been at any time in the last 50-odd years. However, there was a revolution in state and local expenditures during the years running from about 1965 to 1975, so total tax collections are not so low, but not abnormal in context.

    Currently, federal expenditures amount to about 24% of domestic product, just a wee bit higher than they were in 1984. (Federal tax collections as a share of domestic product are lower than they were, so public sector borrowing is at this time 9% of domestic product rather than 6% of domestic product). All things being equal, the relative size of the public sector (beyond a certain baseline) is inversely related to measures of economic dynamism. There is a cost to be paid in static utility and in economic vibrancy each time you expand the public sector’s take and that cost has to be taken into account in assessing any proposed program.

    Now, how are we financing this expenditure? We are financing it through a mix of taxation and public sector borrowing. One might expect that it does diminish utility to finance an activity from coerced contributions (taxation) rather than voluntary contributions (borrowing). Keep in mind that the diminution of utility would be some fraction of 9% of domestic product, perhaps expressed in anemic growth rates experienced as the tax increase is imposed (recall that the money is not being invested, but parked in Treasury issues). That is not what you want, but it is not economically devastating either).

    If you wish to make an argument against a particular manifestation of public expenditure, make that argument; there’s plenty to choose from. If you wish to argue that there are perverse incentives encoded into entitlement programs, make that argument. If you wish to make an argument that optimal public expenditure is of a particular dimension, make that argument. What you really ought not to do is contend that it would be economically devastating to maintain a public sector of a given relative size when we have in fact done so for 35 years or more (and other countries have maintained larger such sectors for longer periods).

  • The idea that the solution to this problem is to raise taxes is simply wrong. The only solution is to radically slash government spending and such a solution will come, probably after the financial crash the West is inevitably headed for.

    I think it might benefit you if you have the time to review the Appendix to the Budget of the U.S. Government and the analytical tables (not the executive summaries, which can be misleading). There are clunky pdfs available online. Review it with two notions in mind.

    1. You cannot welsh on debt service;

    2. The elderly and disabled have very limited capacity to adjust to reduced economic circumstances; diminution of benefits to these sectors (that would be Social Security, Medicare, and that portion of Medicaid which finances nursing homes) has to be undertaken quite gradually and is not going to net you much over the course of the next several years.

  • And I would suggest Art that you contemplate the deficits for the last five years and consider this truism: “Something that can’t go on forever will not go on forever.” National public debt is currently at 99% of GDP. Our capacity to finance the government by conjuring money out of thin air is coming to an end and probably sooner rather than later due to an increasing realization that we can never pay off this amount of debt, at least not with a currency that has anything close to its present value. Slow motion debt repudiation, hyper inflation, currency devaluation, whatever it is called, it is eventually going to occur with severe damage to our economy.

  • I am perfectly aware of the problem. However, cessation of public sector borrowing requires:

    1. More revenue; and

    2. Less spending.

    My complaint about your posts on this matter is a deficit of specificity as regards the latter and your insistence that the former cannot occur. There’s quite a mass of bilge in the federal budget. There are roughly 55 independent agencies you could shut down with little damage to the public interest; two cabinet departments that could be shut down with like consequences; a third department which could have its budget cut by >90% with like consequences; and another that could use a 22% cut. The thing is, you pump out the bilge and you still have problems.

    A. Reducing the bloat derived from the structural defects in entitlement programs takes time;

    B. Removing excess spending in legitimate programs requires intensive attention to granular details or requires you make an arbitrary cut and tell the agency chiefs to figure out the details.

    C. Some sorts of cuts will induce or exacerbate fiscal crises in state and local government. Liquidated programs are properly partially replaced with formulaic revenue sharing.

  • Medusa, the Gorgon, is Nancy Pelosi. Medusa had snakes for hair. Nancy Pelosi has snakes (lies) for hair. The sight of Medusa turned men to stone. Nancy Pelosi turns men to stone. Nancy Pelosi gives her son a stone when he asks for a loaf of bread and a snake when he asks for an egg. As a public servant, all citizens are constituents of Nancy Pelosi. We, the people, are her public, her national community. Yet, Nancy Pelosi consistently gives us, her constituents, a stone, when we ask for a loaf of bread, and a snake when we ask for an egg. If untruth, or perjury in the public court of law is permissible, then, Nancy Pelosi has handed us, her constituents, a stone when we ask for a loaf of bread and a snake when we ask for an egg.
    In Greek mythology, Perseus slew the vile Medusa by viewing her in the mirror of his shield for if he had looked at Medusa straight away, he would have been turned to stone. Medusa had snakes for hair, the sight of which turned men to stone. Perseus, son of the Greek king of gods, Zeus, separated Medusa’s ugly snake-generating head from her body with his sword. Separating Nancy Pelosi from her snake-generating lies with our vote in November will free us, her constituents, from turning into stone.
    St. Patrick drove the snakes out of Ireland. It is time to drive the snakes out of the United States Congress.

Lying Worthless Political Hack Drops Pinch of Incense on Emperor’s Altar

Friday, February 3, AD 2012

In a move that will come as no surprise to anyone who has paid the slightest attention to her political career, former Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, or as I affectionately refer to her, the Lying Worthless Political Hack, indicated yesterday that she values her loyalty to her President far more than any loyalty to her Church:

 

QUESTION:

“The administration has issued a regulation that will require all healthcare plans to cover sterilization and all FDA approved contraceptives including those that induce abortions. This will force Catholic individuals and institutions to act against their consciences. All across the nation..”

PELOSI:

“Is this a speech or do we have a question disguised as speech?”

QUESTION:

We cannot and will not comply with this law.

Will you stand with your fellow Catholics in opposing this law?

PELOSI:

I’m going to stand with my fellow Catholics in supporting the administration on this. I think it was a very courageous decision that they made and I support it.

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  • And the difference between Livia Drusilla Julia Augusta, Uxor Augusti Caesaris et Mater Imperii Romani, and Nasty Pelosi is???????????????

  • “And the difference between Livia Drusilla Julia Augusta, Uxor Augusti Caesaris et Mater Imperii Romani, and Nasty Pelosi is???????????????”

    Botox.

  • You made me laugh, Phillip. True, oh so true!

  • Emperor very happy to see her also sustain burns with her ‘fellow’ Catholics and watch the smoke billow.
    Takes her to Catholic ER he threatened during this their year of allotment for burn treatment.
    Finds long waiting line for prerequisite, sincere conscience examination, then finds out about the repentance area before treatment. Not easy for Emperor to stop in this place – no one burning incense for Emperor.
    Has fund raiser party waiting, and then thinks scarring fine. Always someone to burn incense back at the party.
    They get out of line, blow the scene, and go to party.

  • “I’m going to stand with my fellow Catholics in supporting the administration on this.”

    The Bishops have to do something about this PRONTO. The fact that she claims to be speaking as a Catholic and on behalf of Catholics in supporting the HHS mandate makes this so much worse than the usual thumb in the eye the Church receives from the pro-abort “Catholic” contingent in government.

  • “In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his [her] spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.” 1st Corinthians 5:4-5

  • Jay – Yes. There’s a huge difference between an “I’m a Catholic but” and an “I’m a Catholic and” formulation. This statement used the latter, and if only for clarity’s sake some official has to denounce it.

  • The Bishops have to do something about this PRONTO. The fact that she claims to be speaking as a Catholic and on behalf of Catholics in supporting the HHS mandate makes this so much worse than the usual thumb in the eye the Church receives from the pro-abort “Catholic” contingent in government.

    Actually, it starts with Sibelius, who is gladly leading Obama’s Kulturkampf. If she’s not going to repent, she must be excommunicated. If not, then all the press releases are so much confetti and bluster.

    This is *the* defining moment. If this doesn’t prompt stern corrective action, then we have reached a breaking point. Are they up to it?

    I have my doubts.

  • Wherever else we disagree, I am completely with you on this one.

    It may be politic to quietly acknowledge that a public figure has excommunicated themselves by their actions but failure to call them out on it leads down a terrible road. Uncatechized Catholics are likely to be confused by the silence – concluding that Pelosi’s and Sibelius’ positions and actions are in accord with the faith.

    The time for quiet is past.

    Will the bishops stand up and be counted?

  • Is this something for the bishops – plural – to respond to? Even the best committee can rarely do more than draft a very good text in reply. People live in specific dioceses, under their local bishop and the Bishop of Rome.

  • Sad. I lament to think what the dread day of Judgment will be like for faithless Catholics like this.

    And, as always, we wait in expectation of her bishop doing something to address the scandal that is Nancy Pelosi.

  • “The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise — with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country.” Time for all our bishops to recall these words of Lincoln. Action must be taken now against public apostates like Pelosi. The left in this country is fighting an undeclared war against the Church. Pope Benedict understands the stakes for freedom of religion in America:

    “In the light of these considerations, it is imperative that the entire Catholic community in the United States come to realize the grave threats to the Church’s public moral witness presented by a radical secularism which finds increasing expression in the political and cultural spheres. The seriousness of these threats needs to be clearly appreciated at every level of ecclesial life. Of particular concern are certain attempts being made to limit that most cherished of American freedoms, the freedom of religion. Many of you have pointed out that concerted efforts have been made to deny the right of conscientious objection on the part of Catholic individuals and institutions with regard to cooperation in intrinsically evil practices. Others have spoken to me of a worrying tendency to reduce religious freedom to mere freedom of worship without guarantees of respect for freedom of conscience.

    Here once more we see the need for an engaged, articulate and well-formed Catholic laity endowed with a strong critical sense vis-à-vis the dominant culture and with the courage to counter a reductive secularism which would delegitimize the Church’s participation in public debate about the issues which are determining the future of American society. The preparation of committed lay leaders and the presentation of a convincing articulation of the Christian vision of man and society remain a primary task of the Church in your country; as essential components of the new evangelization, these concerns must shape the vision and goals of catechetical programs at every level.”

    http://the-american-catholic.com/2012/01/20/pope-benedict-religious-freedom-under-threat-in-america/

  • I imagine the USCCB will draft a strongly worded letter decrying Mitt Romney’s uncharitable immigration stance quickly followed by a second condemning his lukewarm opposition to water boarding.

  • As well as his thoughts that the social safety net is satisfactory.

  • And thus the persecution cometh – this is indeed an attack on the Church, from within and from without in the US.

    Kia kaha – stand strong.

  • Indeed Don. I think we are fortunate that Obama started this in an election year. I trust that he will have a Yamamoto moment about all this when he looks back:

  • Donald – Your mouth, er computer to God’s ears!!

  • What I am about to say may anger some of you. While I am in full support of the bishops in their opposition to this HHS mandate, I also have to say that they have contributed to this in no insignificant way. They have supported the big government nanny statism that has enabled this to happen. Obamacare got rammed down our throats with nary a peep about whether or not taking over one sixth of the U.S. economy can be squared with the principle of subsidiarity. To my knowledge Bp Lori of Bridgeport Conn. was the only exception.

    They also continue to take sides on issues they have no business taking sides on like capital punishment, national security/foreign policy, immigration etc. It matters not to them, it seems, that these very groups they link pinkies with are vehemently pro-abortion and (especially with the death penalty) use them as a wedge to divide pro-lifers and other faithful Catholics.

    Until individual bishops and the USCCB as a whole have the courage to own up to the part they played in helping to bring this travesty on steroids about, their opposition to it will ring hallow.

  • Greg Mockeridge: Capital punishment is the TEMPORAL punishment due to capital one murder. Temporal punishment cannot be removed as such, except by the person upon whom it is laid by his own sins and certainly not against the will of God. The bishops for their part pray the Lord’s prayer, “deliver us from evil” and “God’s will be done” and for this, the bishops are still bishops, but the bishops need to lead the people out of bondage to the devil and his minions, the devil’s footsoldiers and those people possessed of the devils. God created freedom.

  • Lying Worthless Political Hack Drops Pinch of Incense on Emperor’s Altar. Donald R. McClarey the soul of clarity. It is indeed poetry. This title inscribes the essence of Nancy Pelosi and exposes the devil inside.

  • Greg Mockeridge hits this one out of the park. Not only do the US Bishops support illegal immigration, they also support government theft, as in steal from Peter (taxpayers) and pay Paul (the poor souls emigrating from corrupt regimes supported by the US government). While my family lives from paycheck to paycheck, what right do the USCCB have in demanding my contributions? This is a macro-level assault on common sense I have witnessed at the parish level. At one time my parish had an elementary school that required weekly attendance at mass, contribution of time and talent at fundraising functions and payment of tuition. Except for non-Catholics. They were exempt from all the above. The school has been closed for nearly 2 decades.
    And I would like to second the other most important element, pro-abortion Catholics getting away with not only their support of genocide, but the public scandal that most assuredly contributes to the loss of many more bodies and souls.

Lying Worthless Political Hack Hates Catholic Conscience

Tuesday, November 22, AD 2011

 

 

It will come as little surprise to faithful readers of this blog, but the Lying Worthless Political Hack, as I affectionately refer to ex-Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D. San Francisco), took  the opportunity during an interview with the Washington Post to slam the Church she purportedly is a member of:

On abortion

Pelosi recently was criticized for the way she characterized a bill to amend Republican-proposed conscience exemptions for health-care reform that allow providers to refuse to perform abortions. Pelosi called the measure, which passed last month with some help from Democrats, “savage,’’ and said, “When the Republicans vote for this bill today, they will be voting to say that women can die on the floor and health-care providers do not have to intervene, if this bill is passed. It’s just appalling.”

In retrospect, does she think that assessment went too far? Not at all, she said: “They would” let women die on the floor, she said. “They would! Again, whatever their intention is, this is the effect.’’

Catholic health-care providers in particular have long said they’d have to go out of business without the conscience protections that Pelosi says amount to letting hospitals “say to a woman, ‘I’m sorry you could die’ if you don’t get an abortion.” Those who dispute that characterization “may not like the language,’’ she said, “but the truth is what I said. I’m a devout Catholic and I honor my faith and love it .?.?. but they have this conscience thing’’ that she insists put women at physical risk, although Catholic providers strongly disagree.

On one occasion, she said, laughing, one of her critics on the topic of abortion, speaking on the House floor, said, “Nancy Pelosi thinks she knows more about having babies than the pope. They think like this. And of course I do — I think the pope would agree — and I know more than you, too, mister.’’

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  • The Church in America deserves all the trials and tribulations it is getting simply because Her Bishops will NOT turn over to Satan people like Nancy Pelosi. That’s what St. Paul told the Church at Corinth to do with a man sleeping with his father’s wife. And that is exactly what he would tell us to do with a woman promoting and extolling the infanticide of the unborn. 1st Corinthians 5:4-5:

    In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus

  • Don”t blame me. I voted for McCain.

    Plus, she made millions $$$ on trading inside info from her legislative activities.

  • She’ll receive communion, no questions ask, the first Sunday in Advent, with the tacit approval of her local ordinary.

    We can rage all we want at her, but she’s a symptom of the actual malady.

  • “askED.”

    Grrr. My two year old is going to have to reconsider her current vocation of living alarm clock. Stat.

  • Kind of makes me hope the atheists are right, because WE have MUCH to answer for allowing narrowbacks like Pelosi ruin this country!!!

  • Couldn’t help noticing in the video, Obama mentioning that defining when life begins is above his pay-grade.

    With the benefit of experience, it appears that most other things are as well.

    As for Pelosi, I wonder what her P.P and other parishioners think of her at her home parish – or does she scuttle off somewhere where she is less recogniseable?

  • “With the benefit of experience, it appears that most other things are as well.”

    Indeed Don! Some men rise to the challenge of high office, but unfortunately Mr. Obama is not among their number.

  • He has risen to the level of incompetant.

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  • If one is referring to nancy pelosi she is not ‘dead’ but has resuscitated herself and will now be the minority leader in Congress…she decapitated all her loyal followers and while they lost, she grasps what power is left to her. This ‘Catholic’ has been the strongest advocate for abortion on demand here and abroad and yet our Bishops continue to consider her a Catholic in good standing and permit her to receive the Eucharist…who is more at fault here – Pelosi believes that this is a matter of personal opinion among the bishops and that she is indeed a Catholic in good standing…Archbishop Burke has been clear and consistent about this – those who publicly stand against the teachings of the Church, in particular regarding the killing of unborn human babies, must not receive Holy Communion…but many Bishops disagree with him and with Church teaching…and so Catholics continue to be confused and lost…shame

  • Florin, I am aware that the Lying Worthless Political Hack, as I affectionately refer to soon to be EX-Speaker of the House Pelosi, has such a lust for power that she is going to be minority leader. This of course will keep her in the public eye during the next Congress. As a Republican I can only respond to that news in this manner:

  • Would you believe, in my home town earlier this year, the song “Ding dong, the witch is dead” was used at a funeral for some woman unknown to me.
    Fortunately, it was a secular service at a non-denominational crematorium chapel.

    They used to say, “Only in America…..”

    I’m beginning to wonder.

  • Well Don, I’d say the gal in question was either crazy or had a great sense of humor, or perhaps her relatives were sadistic!

  • It will be good to see Boehner finally take care of the abortion issue once and for all so other issues can be addressed- as we all know that is what the GOP and the Dems want- to resolve that issue so they can’t use it anymore on the national level to divide Americans. So I eagerly await that . . . I’m sure it will happen and all those multi million dollar anti and pro abortion groups and their lobbyists will fade away- shut down- and get new jobs.

    And I’m sure the new good Catholic that is Boehner will address the tiny problem of Christian Fundamentalism running rampant in the military and about which the American Catholic Church is very very vocal upon . . .

    I’ll bet he calls a big public hearing about that. And I’m sure he is going to address the wars and crimes and the assassination power claimed by Obama and so forth. I can’t wait for all the great changes and moral awakening that is going to be brought forth by the new speaker and upstanding Catholic that is John Boehner.

  • “It will be good to see Boehner finally take care of the abortion issue once and for all”

    Perfectly attainable Chris. All we have to do is have all Catholic Dems in Congress have the same voting record against abortion in the next Congress that Boehner does. Time for you to get on the phone now!

And Your Little Dog, Too!

Tuesday, September 14, AD 2010

Hands down the most entertaining political ad I’ve seen this year.  John Dennis has the well-nigh hopeless task of defeating the Lying Worthless Political Hack, a\k\a Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House.  In Pelosi’s San Francisco District Che Guevara would probably be deemed to be a political moderate, but Dennis is running a feisty campaign nonetheless.  Here is his website.  He might be worth tossing a few dollars to if only as a salute for the entertainment value he is providing.

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  • Genius – I had to rewatch that ad a few times because I kept laughing! The IRS flying monkeys is one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a long time! I wish I lived in Frisco just so I could vote for him!

  • Rumor has it that she may retire in 2012 after this election.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75233

    Speaking of “retirement”, a Politico reporter with high connections within the Democratic Party and the White House has it on good authority that Obama is not going to run in 2012 for re-election. Heard it on the news and I can’t find it online yet.

  • Tito:

    I doubt that about Obama. He lives for the campaign; he’s been campaigning for 2012 since before the 2008 election was decided. The only way I could see it is if Obama pulled an Edwin Edwards-drop out of the election, hand your opponent a hallow victory (i.e. no mandate for change), and then return in four years after the opponent fails to reclaim power. If Obama calculates that he wasn’t win 2012 but that he could smoke Palin in 2016, then he might-but it seems a stretch (though I would love anything that prevents him from being in the office 858 days, 22 hours, 12 minutes, and 9 seconds from now-yes, I have a countdown clock on my desktop. Sue me.)

  • I don’t see it either, but the political ground is trending toward that possibility.

    LBJ quit when he read the political tee-leaves knowing full well he didn’t have a chance in hell to win.

  • Found it:

    A prominent insider of the Democratic Party is saying:

    “…the biggest fear of some of those close to him (Obama) is that he (Obama) might not really want to go on in 2012, that he (Obama) might not really care.”

    Here is the article:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42100.html

  • Roger Simon and Politico are good, but not infallible. The only way I foresee Obama not running in 2012 is if the GOP gets control of both houses of Congress AND manages not to mess anything up too badly in the following 2 years. A lot can happen in 2 years and one must never underestimate the ability of EITHER party to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

  • The violence in this video is astonishing and stems from a Calvinistic outlook and a preference for the rich. Everyone knows that Nancy is a great Catholic because she knows(unlike some bloggers) that Catholics pray to saints.

  • I don’t think Obama cares about getting re-elected, I believe he is George Soro’s little flying monkey and all they care about is the destruction of the American Way. He seems to be concerned about getting the most damage done in the shortest amount of time.
    This video is great, very well done and very funny!

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The Values of the Word

Wednesday, June 2, AD 2010

I have to tip my blogging cap to the Lying Worthless Political Hack, aka Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House.  Everytime I think she has hit bottom, she somehow manages to dig down a bit further.    On May 6 she made this statement in a speech to the Catholic Community Conference:

“They ask me all the time, ‘What is your favorite this? What is your favorite that? What is your favorite that?’ And one time, ‘What is your favorite word?’ And I said, ‘My favorite word? That is really easy. My favorite word is the Word, is the Word. And that is everything. It says it all for us. And you know the biblical reference, you know the Gospel reference of the Word.”
 

“And that Word,” Pelosi said, “is, we have to give voice to what that means in terms of public policy that would be in keeping with the values of the Word. The Word. Isn’t it a beautiful word when you think of it? It just covers everything. The Word.
 
“Fill it in with anything you want. But, of course, we know it means: ‘The Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.’ And that’s the great mystery of our faith. He will come again. He will come again. So, we have to make sure we’re prepared to answer in this life, or otherwise, as to how we have measured up.”

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The Dignity and Worth of Every Person

Tuesday, May 11, AD 2010

The Lying Worthless Poltical Hack, a\k\a Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, tells Priests and Bishops to speak out on immigration from the pulpit based upon a biblical concern for “the dignity and worth of every person”.

The respect that the Lying Worthless Political Hack has “for the dignity and worth” of the smallest and most helpless among us was well demonstrated by this quote from Naral Pro-Choice America in 2007 after Pelosi became speaker of the House:

“Americans who value freedom and privacy have many reasons to celebrate as Nancy Pelosi takes the Speaker’s gavel to make this historic move forward for our country.  For her nearly 20 years in office, Speaker Pelosi has been an effective advocate for women’s health and has championed her pro-choice values by consistently voting to protect a woman’s right to choose.  In November, voters across this country endorsed Speaker Pelosi’s call for a change and new direction by electing 23 new pro-choice members to the U.S. House of Representatives.  Today, we celebrate as Speaker Pelosi takes the reins; under her leadership Americans can expect a new focus on commonsense solutions, not the divisive attacks that marred the previous Congresses.”

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  • Problem is that many U.S. bishops don’t need Nip Tuck Nancy to egg them on in using their good offices as a feather to tickle their ideological fancies on this issue. I mean you have both Cdl. Roger Mahony and Abp. Timothy Dolan engaging in New York Slimes-style smear tactics to disparage the good people of Arizona who are exercising their God-given right to protect themselves from the ravages of open borders malfeaseance.

  • Is it dignified to die of exposure in the desert?

    Do we celebrate the worth of those who are suffocated in unventilated containers snuck across the border by ‘coyotes’?

    Or the women trafficked … or raped … crossing the border?

    Or the drug violence? Or gang crime? Kidnapping? Murder. Mayhem. Is that all dignified?

    Anyone who supports the current border situation, or would cause a stampede by offering ‘amnesty’ … has a share of all this blood on their hands. Not very dignified to my way of thinking.

  • Or it could be because of the bishop’s longstanding support of immigrants, mainly because the US Catholic Church was built on the backs of poor, outcast immigrants.

    http://www.usccb.org/comm/archives/2010/10-090.shtml
    http://www.faithfulcitizenship.org/

    Despite the Speaker’s horrid theology on abortion, she’s right that more clergy should speak out on a just immigration policy. How can we say we respect all life when we spit on the poor and needy who come to us looking for a living (in a legal way)?

  • “How can we say we respect all life when we spit on the poor and needy who come to us looking for a living (in a legal way)?”

    Deporting illegal aliens is not spitting on them. No one of course is proposing that legal immigrants do not have every right to be here, so I do not understand the (in a legal way) that ended your sentence.

    In any case this post isn’t about the debate over immigration, but rather at the deafness the Lying Worthless Political Hack has to an essential teaching of her Church and her willingness to attempt to enlist the Church, with language the irony of which I am certain eludes her, when it becomes politically expedient for her to do so.

  • Mr Smith:

    Immigration is not the issue. It’s about illegal aliens storming across our borders and the attendent dangerous criminal activity. For the bishops to accuse those who take a differing view from that of the open borders crowd od being anti-immigration when they know it is nothing of the sort is reprehensible, to say nothing of being unbecoming the office of bishop.

    USCCB “pastoral” letters on these type issues are more ideological than pastoral and are not worth the paper they are written on esecially that “Faithful Citizenship” one.

  • Again we get to the claim that immigrants have a right to immigrate – which they do according to Catholic Social teaching. But Catholic Social teaching also notes that states have a right to regulate immigration. I suspect the Church understood that when it developed this teaching that there would be some poor immigrants who were cut off. Catholic Social teaching is not about achieving utopia in the here and now. It is about applying moral principles in a fallen world.

  • If the Demonrats were not assured of getting the votes of the illegals, do you think they would be fighting so hard for getting them in to the county AND giving them “defacto” votes (via ACORN, et al)?

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Get Health Insurance—Or Else!

Friday, November 13, AD 2009

Perhaps I should call the Lying Worthless Political Hack, a\k\a Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, the Artless Dodger.  It is clear that the penalties for willful non-compliance with the health insurance mandate under the version of ObamaCare passed by the House are severe and could involve up to five years in a federal pen.  Read all about it here in a letter from Thomas A. Barthold, Chief of Staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation, to Dave Camp (R-Mi), ranking Republican on the Committee. 

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  • This is just one more step in the direction of tyranny.

  • Legalized extortion.

  • And the video is private… d’oh.

  • Put another way:
    1. If you buy insurance, you get a tax break.
    2. If you willfully evade your taxes, you can go to jail.

    Oh the horror!

  • Because what we really need in this country is new taxes. This will especially hit hard some of Obama’s youngest erst-while supporters, since many of the young, reasonably enough, play the odds and decide that they can spend their money better in areas other than health insurance. Now that choice is foreclosed thanks to the Messiah from the South Side, who knows how to spend your money better than you do.

  • restrained radical: The bill will make something that is now a right (the right not to purchase health insurance) into a crime. And I don’t buy that the government is granting you some great boon when it gives you a tax break, i.e., actually lets you keep a bit more of the money you earned.

    For a time in my 20’s, I had bare-bones insurance. I would have been covered if I had been in an auto crash, but I paid for my routine check-ups out of pocket. As Donald points out, it’s a gamble, but one many young people choose. I would have been very resentful if the government had forced me to buy health insurance. Young Obama fans like my eldest nephew (who was under the naive supposition that Obamacare would be “free”) are about to find out what “change” really means in Obamaland.

  • “The bill will make something that is now a right (the right not to purchase health insurance) into a crime.”

    You say that as if it’s a bad thing.

    “I would have been very resentful if the government had forced me to buy health insurance.”

    Are you currently resentful for having to buy car insurance, social security, Medicare, or weapons for our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

  • “You say that as if it’s a bad thing.”

    Well, yes, because I consider it to be a very bad thing.

    National defense is one of the legitimate roles of the Federal Government. Social security is an all-conceived Ponzi scheme that is going to run out of money once the boomers start collecting.

    I’m a conservative, and as such, do not confuse taxation with charitable giving, or find the nanny state appealing.

  • “National defense is one of the legitimate roles of the Federal Government.”

    So is health care.

    “I’m a conservative, and as such, do not confuse taxation with charitable giving, or find the nanny state appealing.”

    That doesn’t make you conservative. That makes you libertarian. You are libertarian, and as such, do not acknowledge that charitable donations did not provide health care for the needy and do not find solidarity appealing.

  • restrainedradical, it is of the very essence of American conservatism to be appalled at the Welfare State. Far better for most of the poor to simply hand out money to them gratis rather than to have it doled out through the expensive, corrupt and ineffective system that we have today. Those who truly need to be wards of the State are a fraction of those currently living on the dole and subject to the ministrations of legions of government nannies.

  • Social security is an all-conceived Ponzi scheme that is going to run out of money once the boomers start collecting.

    It is an income transfer program, not a defined-contribution or defined-benefit pension program. There are no investments; the collected taxes purchase Treasury debt. Congress needs to have the spigots adjusted properly (which they may or may not do), but that’s it.

    Far better for most of the poor to simply hand out money to them gratis rather than to have it doled out through the expensive, corrupt and ineffective system that we have today. Those who truly need to be wards of the State are a fraction of those currently living on the dole and subject to the ministrations of legions of government nannies.

    I think you are generally correct, that the state should restructure the tax code to remove the most impecunious people from it, provide an income floor for the elderly and disabled, and subsidize the earned income of a selection of the rest. The thing is, there are a selection of services which are not the economists’ ‘public goods’ which are intertwined with the regulatory and order-maintenance functions of the state (e.g. child protective services and foster care, asylum), or with the maintenance of civic life (primary and secondary schooling, the public defender’s office), or with providing a facility for working (primary and secondary schooling, mass transit). Also, expenditures on housing and groceries and fuel are fairly regular and predictable and vary according to desired amenity. Expenditures on medicine and surgery, on custodial care, and on temporary housing in the event of a natural disaster are not and require the formation of actuarial pools. In these last circumstances, the provision of the services themselves rather than cash might be preferable. (Though the insurance programs might be structured quite differently than Medicare is today or than the Democratic congressional caucus would approve).

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Stupak Gets His Vote

Saturday, November 7, AD 2009

Representative Bart Stupak’s (D. MI.) amendment to the ObamaCare bill in the House will get an up or down vote. Stupak’s amendment would prohibit all funding of abortion under the House ObamaCare bill.  Now the Lying Worthless Political Hack, a/k/a, Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, attempted to avoid a vote on the Stupak Amendment by concocting a false compromise which was shot down.  So why is she caving now after so long attempting to avoid a vote on this issue which threatens to derail ObamaCare for good?  She doesn’t have the votes to pass it otherwise. Her whip Steny Hoyer (D. MD.), has told her that he doesn’t have the votes to pass ObamaCare unless pro-life Dems get this vote.

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  • My Rep. Maurice Hinchey, is a card carrying liberal, Catholic, pro-abortion, Democrat but I emailed him just the same. Being from New York everyone who “represents” me does so, the vast majority of the time, in opposition to how I would prefer.

    When I read the co-sponsors of HR 3962 I saw that Rep. Charles Rangel was among them, good Catholic, from NYC that he is.

    You know I am opposed to one-issue Catholicism, as I feel is the case with abortion and the Catholic Church(although the Church is correct in its stance just severely(malignantly so) myopic regarding other life issues) yet I could not fail to oppose this legislation and make it known to Mr. Hinchey.

    Thanks for the post.

  • Thank you Karl for making the contact. This vote comes at a good time since a lot of the Blue Dogs will be sweating bullets over New Jersey and Virginia. If Pelosi and Reid were competent they would have had this vote months ago. Fortunately they are not.

  • We cannot allow child murder to not only be allowed by government but also to fund it with our labor. This is just sick.

    My fear is that the amendment to the 2,000+ page debacle will simply be a bandaid used to restrain a Leviathan. This bill is so all encompassing and will create so much havoc and consolidation of power that if it passes becuase of this amendment more children will be killed also.

    Their are forces at the highest levels of government that want to murder our children. This amendment will not stop them. They will use the massive power of this unprecedented bureaucracy to promote and fund murder without need of law.

    A 2,000 page bill will become a 2,000 page law, which will become 200,000 rules determined, implemented and enforced by unelected and unaccountable government lifers.

    If this bill passes say good bye to America as we know it and the change that comes will be nothing like the good that is in America today and will compoud and multiply the evils. Nothing of Catholic Social Doctrine will survive if this monstrosity passes.

    We are being fooled with an allegedly ‘pro-life’ amendment. If the Blue Dogs fall for this then it may be time for the firing squad.

  • Using modern science, not medieval science the question is: “When can we say the fetus is a living human being?” The answer for most is when brain waves are detected, around the end of the second trimester. That is why British law forbids late term abortion but allow it earlier. The fetus before brain waves is biological life, still primarily a part of the mother. After brain waves appear, the fetus is human life, even if still part of the mother.

  • Actually John it is pro-aborts who tend to cite medieval science in this debate, with out of context arguments from theories of ensoulment. From conception human beings are human beings with their own unique genetic code, and not chattel to be slaughtered at the whim of the mother, or the whim of others coercing the mother to kill her child.

  • You cannot be “just a little bit against abortion.” If all life is not held sacred and protected, then no life is safe. For those who doubt the efficacy of this, please review the film and documentary propaganda the Nazis used to convince a sophisticated and cultured populace that there existed different claims to the right for life…Jews, gypsies, physically/mentally-disabled persons, eastern European races were not worthy of the resources the Reich needed to launch a war. Indian and Chinese parents abort fetuses just because they are not male.Apparently, only the male son is capable of taking care of his parents in their old age. Of course, in our society, we abort for concvenience. I wonder what definition of convenience in the future will be used to justify the killing of the unborn, the infirm, the elderly, the severely handicapped, etc.

    The right of a human being [fetus included] trumps the right of women, the government, parents to take that life.If Catholics and other Christians do not stand up for the sacredness of all life, why should I bother to be Catholic. Who then will speak for the unborn?

  • Bravo Dr. Holman!

  • Dr. Holman,

    We belong to the Catholic Church because we belong to her head, Jesus the Christ. The Catholic Church is not a political party. The Catholic Church has no platform. Even if every Catholic was pro-abortion the Church and the Magesterium of the Church will never compromise on the sanctity of human life. That is a guarantee of the Holy Spirit, Lord and giver of LIFE.

    The error here is not in the teaching or stance of the Church. It is a problem of implementation. Some bishops and other clergy have been sending confusing signals about this and they are to be ignored. The teaching of the Magesterium trumps any other. Law is properly the realm of the laity. We are to be informed by the Church and work to fulfill the moral teachings in our lives and our nations and governments.

    The biggest problem here is Catholic congressional critters that are pro-abortion or indifferent to the issue. There are more than enough critters in congress who identify themselves as Catholic, not the least of which is the lying political hack Pelosi, to kill all bills that seek the murder of chilren. If these critter would vote their properly informed consciences (first they have to pcik up a catechism) not only would ALL of these assault on health care proposals die but a law to prevent the murder of any more children would pass, even with the post-birth murderer in the WH, and the Supreme Court would have no provision in the Constitution to undo it.

    The proper question to ask is why bother with either political party, since they are flip sides of the same sick coin; rather than why bother being Catholic? you’re not Catholic what are you?

  • Note that pro-life Democrats are the key to either stopping this bill completely or preventing it from funding a massive expansion of abortion services. Republicans alone are too far in the minority to have any effect.

    That ought to give some pause to those who insist that no pro-lifer can ever be a Democrat, or vote for a Democrat, because the official party platform is pro-abortion.

    And perhaps it ought to give some pause to those who insist that we must never vote for anyone whose pro life record is less than 100 percent perfect. (I get the impression Stupak may not be pro-life enough for some people based on past public statements of his)

    Without these pro-life Dems, even the less than perfect pro-life Dems, there would be NO way to stop this abortion juggernaut. There needs to be a pro-life presence in BOTH parties and electing more pro-life Dems ought to be the number one political priority of the pro-life movement… equal to or even greater than getting pro-life justices on the Supreme Court, because those justices can’t get confirmed without Senators willing to vote for them.

  • The Stupak-Pitts Amendment passed with 240 votes! 🙂

  • Now it needs to stay put, provided this ultimately gets to conference.

  • I’m surprised by the size of the victory. I bet Pelosi is too. I imagine the plan was to have this stripped away in a future conference committee with the Senate reconciling the two health bills. This was premised on a narrow passage of Stupak. With 64 Democrats and all but one of the Republicans in favor of the Stupak amendment, Pelosi would probably see the bill go down in flames if that trick was pulled. Now she has to explain to 194 of her caucus why they should continue to support a bill which has just handed the pro-life forces their biggest legislative victory this year.

  • The health care bill passed with 220 votes.

  • This is excellent news. Can I now expect all Catholics to throw themselves fully behind the health care bill that incorporates the Stupak amendment?

  • Of course not. There’s no “Catholic” obligation to support this particular bill. As I’ve pointed out before, with nary an answer, there are several times more people who die from getting healthcare as there are who die from the lack of it (at least in America). So it’s completely open for a Catholic, or anyone of sound mind, to wonder whether people’s health will overall be benefited, and whether it’s the wisest use of hundreds of billions of dollars, to give more so-called “health-care” to more people.

  • No Tony, it is now merely an an unwise idea and not an evil idea as it would be without the Stupak Amendment, but nonetheless it remains foolishness on stilts. At any rate a health care bill from the Senate must first receive 60 votes to invoke cloture, and I can’t imagine anything resembling the House bill even getting 55 votes in the Senate.

  • That had to be a joke. Do you really beleive the Stupak ammendment will protect children?

    Fools.

  • Dear Morning’s Minion,

    This bill continues to violate Catholic teachings on matters of intrinsic evil and can also be opposed on legitimate prudential grounds. It is tragic to call this health plan “universal” when it simply shifts who doesn’t receive care from the poor to the disabled and elderly.

    Regards,
    Steve

    PS: I personally cannot afford health insurance (though I’d like it), and I loathe the GOP. So you’ll need to find another option for your ad hominem attack response.

  • Donald:

    The “Democrats for Life” have stepped up. Should at least some honest Republicans not do the same thing now that there is a bill with iron-clas protection against abortion? After all, the USCCB said that passing the Stupak amendment would turn them from a critic to a strong supporter.

    I’m disappointed. I’ve noticed all along that for many “Catholics” who opposed this reform, especially on the internet, abortion was not the defining issue. Intead, the defining issue was adherance to an individualist ethos, an ethos that stood against the Catholic notion of solidarity, which surely calls for the community to provide health care to all. After all, the Church deems healthcare as a fundamental right. Maintaining the status quo is a violation of that right.

  • Steve,

    I'[m not going to call names or attack the GOP (I love the way come people defelct all criticism with cries of ad homimum – weird in this context). I will merely take issue with this statement: [this bill] “simply shifts who doesn’t receive care from the poor to the disabled and elderly”

    I will simply ask: where are you getting this silliness? The House bill is largely financed by an income tax surcharge and taking the middleman our of medicare advantage. In fact, one reason the AARP supports this bill is that it does largely nothing the curb the escalating costs of medicare. ANd the disabled? Huh? As someone in the thicket of the healthcare debate for yours, I don’t know where you get this stuff. And don’t you think if there were serious life issues other abortion, the USCCB would be flagging them???

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  • Amazing. The brave anonymous Morning’s Minion has started putting Catholics who disagree that this bill is the best way to serve the common good in scare quotes. “Catholics.”

    Nice.

    Morning’s Minion, who defends the diversity of political options regarding the legality of abortion from a Catholic perspective, cannot admit that same diversity here.

    Morning’s Minion: If I, as a Catholic, oppose this legislation because I believe that it will hurt more people than it helps and will not meet the needs of those it claims to help and will damage the common good, and if I believe there are other legislative options that will do more to improve the situation in regard to healthcare, it is not your place to define me as less than Catholic because of that.