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Abortion, Censorship and Donald Trump

Saturday, May 27, AD 2017

 

 

As faithful readers of this blog know, I long opposed the election of Donald Trump last year.  I viewed him as unfit to be President, I doubted his conversion to the pro-life cause and I knew that he wasn’t a conservative in the mode of Reagan.  I came around, reluctantly, after he signed a pledge letter to the pro-life cause.  Since his election I occasionally wonder if I made the right decision, and then something like what is documented below happens, and I am very happy with my decision:

 

YouTube removed a video showing top Planned Parenthood officials making gruesome comments about abortion on the order of a federal judge in California.

U.S. District Judge William Orrick, who granted the preliminary injunction in favor of the National Abortion Federation to halt the release of the videos, ordered any links to the video to be removed after it was published by the Center for Medical Progress on Thursday.

Judge Orrick also ordered CMP lead investigator David Daleiden and his attorneys to appear in court June 14, The Associated Press reported, for a hearing where he will consider holding them in contempt for releasing the footage.

Mr. Daleiden has been charged with 15 felonies in California stemming from his undercover investigation into the abortion giant. His attorneys have called it a “witch hunt” that flies in the face of the First Amendment.

YouTube has not responded to a request for comment.

The three-minute video showed top Planned Parenthood executives joking about severed fetus heads, admitting to altering abortion procedures to preserve fetal organs and conceding that clinics have a financial incentive to sell the human remains from abortions.

Lisa Harris, medical director at Planned Parenthood of Michigan, laments that abortionists cannot easily confide in others about their workplace difficulties, such as removing the severed heads of fetuses from women undergoing abortions.

“Our stories don’t really have a place in a lot of pro-choice discourse and rhetoric, right? The heads that get stuck that we can’t get out,” Ms. Harris says in the video, drawing laughs from an audience.

She also says pro-choice advocates should concede that the practice is murder.

“Let’s just give them all the violence,” she says. “It’s a person. It’s killing. Let’s just give them all that.”

The video features footage recorded at an annual National Abortion Federation meeting by the undercover pro-life journalists. The Center for Medical Progress says it’s just a preview of never-before-seen content that has been caught up in a legal fight for nearly two years.

In the video, Ann Schutt-Aine, director of abortion services at Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, admits to using forceps to hold a fetus in place and circumvent a partial-birth abortion.

“If I’m doing a procedure, and I’m seeing that I’m in fear that it’s about to come to the umbilicus, I might ask for a second set of forceps to hold the body at the cervix, and pull off a leg or two, so it’s not [partial-birth abortion],” she says.

President Trump was ridiculed during the campaign for suggesting abortions happen in the U.S. up to the moment of birth.

Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List, said the video proves him right.

15 Responses to Abortion, Censorship and Donald Trump

  • This is but the American left’s imitation of the old soviet default psych hospital trip for those who dare to seek any truth that the political powers seek to hide.

  • Patriotism is treason. Love is hate. Truth is a lie. Civil discourse is harassment, intimidation, violence.

    In case you hadn’t noticed, the totalitarian elites are using Orwell’s 1984 as a guide book.

  • Prior to the election, I also had severe doubts about Trump, his fitness to be POTUS and his commitment to the pro-life cause. I ended up not voting for either him or Hillary, on the grounds that, as a resident of a deep blue state (IL) whose votes were already in the bag for Hillary, my vote wouldn’t have an impact on the outcome. If I had it to do over again, I would vote for Trump, partly because he has proven to be much better than I anticipated, partly because Hillary and her supporters have proven to be far more unstable and dangerous than I realized, and partly because more attention is being paid to the outcome of the popular vote, which even though it doesn’t count officially, does make a significant difference in public perception.

  • “I long opposed the election of Donald Trump last year… I came around…I am very happy with my decision…” If everyone could reflect, see beyond the imperfections and be grateful for his lack of pc, he may actually accomplish a great deal. We won’t agree with everything he does, but we never will find such a President. Thanks for sharing your path.

  • Congress could and should put judge Orrick out of business. For more than 70 years, the federal courts have made it increasingly plain that they’re staffed with intellectual and moral frauds. A piece of statutory law which grants the Northern district of California new boundaries – one square yard in the middle of a slum boulevard in Sacramento – will do the trick. Punish all the judges there Kennesaw Mountain Landis style. Draw a new district and staff it with better judges, transferring the appropriations for court staff from one to the other. Going forward, Judge Orrick gets paid with $200,000 worth of potatoes dumped on his front lawn once a year.

  • What these people deserve is what the Nazis on trial at Nuremberg got: dispatch to the Lord Jesus for final judgment.

    I despise, loathe, abhor, detest and hold in utter contempt and disdain liberal progressive feminist Democrats.

  • Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus don’t hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel!

  • “I knew that he wasn’t a conservative in the mode of Reagan. ”

    We haven’t had a conservative in the mode of Reagan since…well…Reagan.

    As far as being glad Trump is president as opposed to Hillary, doing worse than Hillary is like trying to shimmy under a limbo stick lying flat on the ground.

  • “As far as being glad Trump is president as opposed to Hillary, doing worse than Hillary is like trying to shimmy under a limbo stick lying flat on the ground.”

    After eight years of Obama I am content even with that, although thus far I think Trump has done better than that.

  • I am upset that the madwoman of Chappaqua won’t stay in Chappaqua and be quiet. I am contemplating pangs f sympathy for Slick Willy.

    That being said, I seriously doubt that President Trump will be as successful as was Obama. The bar is set HIGH. Almost impossible for Trump sell as many guns or equal Obama’s GOP electoral gains.

    Obama, the World’s greatest gun marketer, gave the GOP the Trump presidency, both houses of Congress (63 House seats and 10 senates eats) , 33 governorships, control of 32 state legislatures, and Trump may appoint three or four more-or-less conservative SCOTUS justices.

  • Orrick? Or-ik? THE JUDGE IS NAMED ORC?

  • The name is too good isn’t it Foxfier, like a character from an Ayn Rand novel.

  • Daily we see the result of the widespread tentacles of evil set out by the Obama.

  • J.R.R Tolkien’s Orc’s seems to fit as well.

    And the Judge being an Obama appointee makes perfect sense. Obama is synonymous with Saruman……the white.

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PopeWatch: Bodyslam

Saturday, May 27, AD 2017

 

 

From the only reliable source of Catholic news on the net, Eye of the Tiber:

Just days after rumors emerged that Montana priest Fr. Gregory Forte could be made a bishop, reports that he apparently attacked a Catholic News Agency reporter the night before the pope made his final decision has thrown the diocese into turmoil.

Political reporter for Catholic News Agency Mary Rezac claimed late Wednesday night that while asking Forte a question regarding how silly altar girls look when they wear high heels, the candidate for bishop suddenly body slammed her to the floor, breaking his glasses and shouting, “Get the hell out of here.”

“He took me to the ground,” Rezac told colleague Ryan Thomas. “This is the strangest thing a priest has ever done to me.”

A spokesman for the diocese released a statement accusing Rezac of crashing the Mass, claiming that Rezac “walked up to the altar, aggressively shoved a recorder in Forte’s face, and began asking badgering question.”

 

But witnesses say that after Forte asked Rezac to remove the recorder, he then removed parts of his vestments, saying, “I’m sick and tired of this,” and body slammed her, before moving into position to place her leg in what is known as a DDT. It was at that point that Rezac was able to free herself and grab a conveniently placed folded chair.

“That’s when she hit him with the chair,” one witness told EOTT. “Calling to those gathered to get on their feet, Rezac went on to execute a suplex on Forte, which laid him out long enough for authorities to arrive.”

Church officials said Rezac was examined at a hospital and released. Officials have stated though the nature of the injuries did not meet the elements of a mortal sin, that Forte would be booked for misdemeanor wrath.

 

4 Responses to PopeWatch: Bodyslam

  • I wouldn’t (I wish I lived in Montana0 need another reason to vote for Mr. Gianforte. But, there it is! Bang!

    Herein provides a sense of where “we” are headed. Something I saw years ago on another web site:

    “Make the World a better place. Punch a liberal in the face.”

    See Luke 22:36-37, quotes the scripture which said, “He shared the fate of criminals.”

    In any case, the Church and the leftist media (for anybody with an “R” after her/his name) do not subscribe to American or English Common Law precepts (e.g., innocent until proven guilty). They, as does most of the World, persist in the dossier or inquisitorial mode, albeit sans the rack.

  • Off topic a bit for your post, but the young reporter managed to speak into his hand held ” you just body slammed me, entering the WWRestling term into the discussion making me think of Jesse Ventura picking his opponent up and throwing them down followed by a triumphant pose. In reality I guess it was more of a “scuffle”.that ended with the reporter going down- that terminology doesn’t excite though
    Also 😊Gianforte is quite the name for the big ad guy

  • After the correction was made that the reporter assaulted by the bishop-elect was from Life Site News, Vatican sources confirm that Bishop-Elect Forte will be made a Cardinal at the next consistory.

  • Anzlyne- from what I remember of the, um, reputation of English reporters…yeah, I’d say that the guy got “up in his face,” and given the actual violence that’s been done to high profile conservatives it didn’t turn out well.

    Wish there was some video.

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Churchill is Back, and He’s a Polish Woman

Friday, May 26, AD 2017

 

I wish Polish Prime Minister Beata Szydło, a devout Catholic, would bite most of the other European leaders:

 

Speaking in the Polish Parliament on Wednesday,Beata Szydło seized the moment to launch an excoriating attack on European Union leaders following the Manchester attack which, among others, claimed the lives of a Polish couple, leaving their two daughters as orphans.

“We are not going to take part in the madness of the Brussels elite,” she railed. “We want to help people, not the political elites.

“Where are you headed Europe?” she demanded. “Rise from your knees and from your lethargy or you will be crying over your children every day.

“If you can’t see this – if you can’t see that terrorism currently has the potential to hurt every country in Europe, and you think that Poland should not defend itself, you are going hand in hand with those who point this weapon against Europe, against all of us.

“It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on Europe, on our culture, on our traditions.”

Addressing the people of Europe, she asked: “Do we want politicians who claim we have to get used to the attacks, and who describe terrorist attacks as incidents, or do we want strong politicians who can see the danger and can fight against it efficiently?”

6 Responses to Churchill is Back, and He’s a Polish Woman

  • Love this lady. The truth is what Europe desperately needs. Hopefully, we will hear more from her.

  • Very good speech. Don’t believe in mainstream’s lies about Poland.

  • The Visegrad Group will not bow down to Brussels and will not import Muslims from North Africa or Syria or anywhere else. Threats from Paris or Brussels will ring hollow. Western Europe can and will continue down their path of self inflicted social rot. Their embrace of homosexualism, abortion, importation of Muslims and rejection of Christianity makes them blind to reality.
    How many Muslim terror attacks take place in Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia?Exactly. Beata Szydło – Sto Lat!

  • I believe one of her sons is to be ordained a priest.

    As always, I lament that Polish schools are empty due to contraception, if not terrorism.

  • Poland has more than once defended The West from its enemies. In return, it has got less than it deserved.

  • Oh, I like her!

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May 26, 1917: Killer Tornado Hits Mattoon and Charleston

Friday, May 26, AD 2017

 

At the start of my career as an attorney, my bride and I lived in Mattoon, Illinois for just under three years.  Charleston was the country seat of Coles County, and I spent a lot of time over there in court.  Only twelve miles separate the two towns.

Beginning on May 25, 1917 an eight day sequence of killer tornadoes struck the mid section of the country, wreaking havoc and death in Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Arkansas, Kentucky and Alabama, leaving 383 people dead.

The tornado that struck Mattoon and Charleston began in Missouri and tracked a 293 mile course across Illinois, traveling at 40 mph, with the whirling winds that made up the tornado attaining 400 mph.  The skies darkened over Mattoon and Charleston around 2:00 PM with air sultry and oppressive.  At 3:00 PM a black nimbus cloud appeared and produced frequent lightning. A greenish-black cumulo-nimbus cloud appeared from the West around 3: 45 pm.  The tornado struck soon thereafter.  A contemporary account described what happened:

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PopeWatch: Black Swan

Friday, May 26, AD 2017

 

Carl Olson at The Catholic World Report has a keen summing up of this Pap

 

Ironically, while Francis talks about clarifying doctrine, there’s simply no doubt that Amoris Laetitia, despite all protests and posturings, has instead confused, disturbed, and confounded with its ambiguities and problematic assertions. Insistence that this is all about “pastoral” issues is misleading, at best, since doctrine and practice go hand in hand; you need not be a theologian to see the essential relationship between what you believe and how you live (it might even be that not being a theologian is helpful in this regard). This pontificate has been divisive in ways few could have imagined prior to 2013. In addition, while Francis likes to talk about the “people”, it’s fairly evident that he has little patience for those people who dare question his questionable statements and actions, no matter how carefully, formally, or respectually they do so. His impatience with theological precision and doctrinal clarity is unsettling. As I noted back in December 2015:

I can only conclude that, for whatever reason, this pope has a deep aversion to theological precision (and, thus, clarity) and is quite impatient with how “doctrine” and “dogma” impede his vision of how things should be in the Church. This is troubling on several counts … First, following the logic of Francis’ various remarks, the pontificates of John Paul II and Benedict XVI (for starters) were pharisaical and unnecessarily complex, and thus stand opposed to his vision of mercy. Whether or not Francis cares about such a logical progression and conclusion is, of course, an entirely different matter. 

And it’s not just about burying Benedict; it’s also about ignoring St. John Paul II. In the meantime, there is the name-calling, the scolding, and the vague appeals to the Holy Spirit. 

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  • It is of the utmost importance to recognize that adherence to doctrine as a path to salvation has been relegated to the Church’s back burner in favor of ambiguous ramblings and utterances that appear (repeat) appear, to be aimed at substituting placenta-like nibbles of mercy and pastoral care for sound theology and practice.
    The very last thing the Catholic world needs now in these precarious times of an overt war on God’s Church, is a distortion of the core beliefs of our faith and God’s Holy Church.
    Our hope is that God will again turn evil into a greater good.

  • Personally, I think Vatican II was the Black Swan event. Francis is simply the hatchling.

  • Excellent line from the article:

    “The problem, in part, is that Francis’ use of the term “ideology” is something like a shotgun blast: it sounds powerful and gets attention, but the exact target can be hard to locate.”

  • President Trump should have given Francis a book that he clearly is not familiar with, the Catechism of the Catholic Church

  • I find myself recalling the following two quotations

    “With every day that passes, the conflict between tendencies that set Catholic against Catholic in every order–social, political, philosophical–is revealed as sharper and more general. One could almost say that there are now two quite incompatible “Catholic mentalities,” particularly in France. And that is manifestly abnormal, since there cannot be two Catholicisms”

    And

    “[U]nprecedented perhaps in depth and extent–for it is at the same time scientific, metaphysical, moral, social and political–[the crisis] is not a “dissolution” [for the spirit of faith does not die], nor even an “evolution” [for the spirit of faith does not change], it is a purification of the religious sense, and an integration of Catholic truth”

    They were written by Maurice Blondel in 1907

  • Blondel, whatever his other gifts, was obviously a woefully inadequate prophet.

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  • “I can only conclude that, for whatever reason, this pope has a deep aversion to theological precision (and, thus, clarity) and is quite impatient with how “doctrine” and “dogma” impede his vision of how things should be in the Church.”

    The “whatever reason” is that the Pope has an aversion to the Truth, i.e, Christ’s words about being the Way, the Truth and the Life.

  • Donald R Mcclarey wrote, “Blondel, whatever his other gifts, was obviously a woefully inadequate prophet.”

    Well, when one looks at the flowering of French Theology in the 20th century, with the Oratorian, Louis Boyer, the Académicien Henri Bremond, Joseph Maréchal SJ, Marie-Dominique Chenu OP, Cardinal Henri de Lubac SJ, Cardinal Yves Congar OP and Cardinal Jean Daniélou SJ, to name only the most prominent, I would say his prophecy was fulfilled.

  • Considering the state of the Church in France, barely on life support, I would say that he stands revealed as a false prophet.

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American History: Memorial Day Weekend Movies

Friday, May 26, AD 2017

“When You Go Home, Tell Them Of Us And Say,
For Your Tomorrow, We Gave Our Today”

              Inscription on the memorial to the dead of the British 2nd Infantry Division at Kohima.

 

A few films to help remember that there is much greater significance to Memorial Day than sun and fun:

 

1.  American Sniper (2015)- A grand tribute to the late Chris Kyle and to all the other troops who served in Iraq.

“I am a strong Christian. Not a perfect one—not close. But I strongly believe in God, Jesus, and the Bible. When I die, God is going to hold me accountable for everything I’ve done on earth. He may hold me back until last and run everybody else through the line, because it will take so long to go over all my sins. “Mr. Kyle, let’s go into the backroom. . . .” Honestly, I don’t know what will really happen on Judgment Day. But what I lean toward is that you know all of your sins, and God knows them all, and shame comes over you at the reality that He knows. I believe the fact that I’ve accepted Jesus as my savior will be my salvation. But in that backroom or whatever it is when God confronts me with my sins, I do not believe any of the kills I had during the war will be among them. Everyone I shot was evil. I had good cause on every shot. They all deserved to die.”
Chis Kyle

2.   Hamburger Hill (1987)- A moving film about our troops in Vietnam who served their nation far better than their too often ungrateful nation served them.

3.  Porkchop Hill (1959)-Korea has become to too many Americans The Forgotten War, lost between World War II and Vietnam.  There is nothing forgotten about it by the Americans who served over there,  including my Uncle Ralph McClarey who died a few years ago, and gained a hard won victory for the US in one of the major hot conflicts of the Cold War.  This film tells the story of the small American force on Porkchop Hill, who held it in the face of repeated assaults by superior forces of the Chinese and North Koreans.  As the above clip indicates it also highlights the surreal element that accompanies every war and the grim humor that aspect often brings.

4.   Hacksaw Ridge (2016):  Mel Gibson fully redeemed his career as a director with this masterpiece.  A film that goes far beyond mere entertainment and illustrates what a man of faith can accomplish when he stays true to his beliefs and cares so much more about helping others than he does about his own mortal life.  Incredibly, the movie does justice to Desmond Doss, a true American hero.

 

 5.   Sergeant York (1941)-A film biopic of Sergeant Alvin C. York, who, during the Meuse-Argonne Offensive  on October 8,  1918, took 32 German machine guns, killed 28 German soldiers and captured another 132.  Viewers who came to see the movie in 1941 must have been initially puzzled.  With a title like Sergeant York, movie goers could have been forgiven for thinking that Sergeant York’s experiences in World War I would be the focus, but such was not the case.  Most of the film is focused on York’s life in Tennessee from 1916-1917 before American entry into the war.  Like most masterpieces, the film has a strong religious theme as we witness York’s conversion to Christ.  The film is full of big questions:  How are we to live?  Why are we here?  What role should religion play in our lives?  How does someone gain faith?  What should we do if we perceive our duty to God and to Country to be in conflict?  It poses possible answers to these questions with a skillful mixture of humor and drama.  The entertainment value of Sergeant York conceals the fact that it is a very deep film intellectually as it addresses issues as old as Man.

The film was clearly a message film and made no bones about it.  The paper of the film industry Variety noted at the time:  “In Sergeant York the screen has spoken for national defense. Not in propaganda, but in theater.”

The film was a huge success upon release in 1941, the top grossing film of the year.  Gary Cooper justly earned the Oscar for his stellar performance as Alvin C. York.  It was Cooper’s favorite of his pictures.  “Sergeant York and I had quite a few things in common, even before I played him in screen. We both were raised in the mountains – Tennessee for him, Montana for me – and learned to ride and shoot as a natural part of growing up. Sergeant York won me an Academy Award, but that’s not why it’s my favorite film. I liked the role because of the background of the picture, and because I was portraying a good, sound American character.”

The film portrays a devout Christian who had to reconcile the command to “Love thy Neighbor” with fighting for his country in a war.  This is not an easy question and the film does not give easy answers, although I do find the clip above compelling.

3 Responses to American History: Memorial Day Weekend Movies

  • One of my favorites, “We Were Soldiers,” a great movie about the true story of the first major clash of US and NVA forces in Vietnam… based on an even greater book by Hal Moore, who happens to be Catholic, who led the Americans. This scene is one of my favorites.
    https://youtu.be/mLaTyNe8mg0

  • a scene from “Memphis Belle”

  • A very moving scene Pinky. It reminds me of what my Mom told me about her Uncle Bill who fought in the British Army 1939-1945:

    His family rejoiced when he arrived back in Newfoundland in one piece, my future Mom noting that he seemed just the same, although he was now sensitive to loud noises. However, one night my Mom saw that the War had left a deeper mark on Uncle Bill. She was visiting Uncle Bill and his wife Aunt Nool, and an older couple came over to see Uncle Bill. Their son had served with Uncle Bill and had been killed in the War. Uncle Bill talked with them and told them how much all the other men in his unit had liked their boy, and how he had been very brave. After he died they had buried him with full military honors. This all seemed to be of great comfort to the older couple, and they thanked Uncle Bill and left. My Mom then saw something she had never seen before, her tough and always smiling Uncle Bill weeping. He turned to Aunt Nool and said that he hadn’t realized that he was such a good liar. The poor son of the older couple had stepped upon a huge land mine and there hadn’t been enough left of him to bury.

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  • The first is one of my favorite movies, looking forward to seeing the second. When anyone starts parroting some progressive double speak, I quote from the first movie: “I ain’t buying it….” 😉

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May 26, 1917: Killer Tornado Hits Mattoon and Charleston

Friday, May 26, AD 2017

At the start of my career as an attorney, my bride and I lived in Mattoon, Illinois for just under three years. Charleston was the country seat of Coles County, and I spent a lot of time over there in court. Only twelve miles separate the two towns.

Beginning on May 25, 1917 an eight day sequence of killer tornadoes struck the mid section of the country, wreaking havoc and death in Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Arkansas, Kentucky and Alabama, leaving 383 people dead.

The tornado that struck Mattoon and Charleston began in Missouri and tracked a 293 mile course across Illinois, traveling at 40 mph, with the whirling winds that made up the tornado attaining 400 mph. The skies darkened over Mattoon and Charleston around 2:00 PM on May 26, 1917 with air sultry and oppressive. At 3:00 PM a black nimbus cloud appeared and produced frequent lightning. A greenish-black cumulo-nimbus cloud appeared from the West around 3: 45 pm. The tornado struck soon thereafter. A contemporary account described what happened:

The greatest destruction was wrought in Coles County, where the tornado
struck the districts occupied by workingmen ‘s homes in the cities of Mattoon
and Charleston, the former with a population of 12,000 and the latter with
6,000. The tornado passed through this county between 3 and 4 p. m., a
time of day in which tornadoes are generally most disastrous. In Mattoon,
at 3 :30 p. m._, sixty people were killed, and ^yq hundred homes demolished
and others seriously damaged. Traveling at about 45 miles per hour the
storm struck Charleston, 11 miles east of Mattoon, at 3:45. Here, thirty-
five persons were killed, over four hundred houses and fifteen industrial
establishments partially or wholly wrecked, the two railway stations de-
molished, and all telegraph and telephone connections destroyed.

In addition to the deaths, some 583 people were injured. Estimates of property damage exceeded 55 million dollars.
The 14th most deadly tornado in US history, the killer tornado was long remembered and was still talked about in the eighties of the last century.

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Melania Trump is Catholic

Thursday, May 25, AD 2017

 

This is interesting:

 

Now we know one reason why the first lady began with ‘Let us pray’ and ‘Our Father who art in heaven’ when she introduced the president that evening: She’s a practicing Roman Catholic.

Her spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham confirmed that to DailyMail.com on Wednesday, hours after Pope Francis blessed a rosary for her at the Vatican.

The last Catholics to live in the White House were John F. Kennedy and his wife Jackie. Melania and her son Barron will move to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue over the summer.

Mrs. Trump did more than just show up for a Papal audience.

She spent time in prayer at the Vatican-affiliated Bambino Gesù (Baby Jesus) Hospital, and laid flowers at the feet of a statue of the Madonna.

33 Responses to Melania Trump is Catholic

  • This will give the media and Hollywood even more excuses to hate Trump…and Melania. I suspected she was at least a nominal Catholic being that she is from Slovenia. I hope she is more than that….and I do not say that mockingly. God knows there is lots of room for improvement in my own life and I am not pointing a finger at anyone here. God works in mysterious ways.

  • Fr Longenecker already beat every critic to the punch by pointing out Trump’s 3 marriages and ignoring Reagan’s 2 when contrasting Trump / Francis and Reagan / JP II. He is not liberal but he’s got a liberal streak straight down his back as most Roman clerics do.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/2017/05/on-popes-and-presidents.html

  • I don’t doubt that she is Catholic, however, many people on various sites want to see her baptismal certificate, a’la Obama’s birth certificate.

  • How about this comment? She has violated the marriage laws of the Church by marrying Trump outside the Church and is therefore living in a state of manifest grave sin. Furthermore, since it is know that she attends Easter services with her husband outside the Catholic Church, this precept also appears to be habitually violated.

    The comparison to St. Helen is not only incorrect but boarders the realm of sacrilege. The life of St. Helen is one of piety and devotion to God. Also, most historians say that she was legally married to the emperor or that they were in a common law marriage; both would be acceptable as natural marriage under the canons.

    Trump and Melania’s situation is specifically condemned under the canons and Cardinal Wuerl should contact her when she gets to DC if Cardinal Dolan has not already.

  • Fr Longenecker already beat every critic to the punch by pointing out Trump’s 3 marriages and ignoring Reagan’s 2 when contrasting Trump / Francis and Reagan / JP II.

    I’m not seeing that there. Did he do that in some other locus?

    I’ve long hated the GB Trudeau talking point about Mr. Reagan. Jane Wyman did not enter the Catholic Church until around 1965 and she never contracted another marriage after that. Neither Nancy Davis nor Ronald Reagan ever belonged to a denomination with a sacramental conception of marriage and Reagan’s divorce from Jane Wyman was at her initiative de facto and de jure (and she did not have grounds, either); her civil marriage to Reagan was the only one of five which lasted longer than five years and the only one which produced any children. I’m old enough to recall when progressive discourse was something more than what you might get from GB Trudeau or Alan Alda (“dabble at wisecracks and call the dabbling ‘social commentary’ as George Will put it). In our own time, talking points and snide remarks is what they’ve got left.

    Trump’s situation (which includes one quite blatant adultery contra Ivana and an indeterminate number beyond that) is rather different. What’s odd is that Trump’s children haven’t produced notable embarrassments or scandals and the conscientious Mr. Reagan’s children are a clown posse.

  • “She has violated the marriage laws of the Church by marrying Trump outside the Church and is therefore living in a state of manifest grave sin.”

    I think I would agree with you although I doubt that Pope Francis would. In any case she should act to regularize her situation with the Church as should hundreds of millions of Catholics in similar situations around the globe.

    “Also, most historians say that she was legally married to the emperor or that they were in a common law marriage; both would be acceptable as natural marriage under the canons.”

    Rome did not have the concept of common law marriage which is a concept developed later under English Common Law. She was clearly in a state of concubinage, similar to the relationship that Saint Augustine had with two women prior to his conversion. Considering the time in which she lived, the difference in social status between her and Constantius would have made marriage a practical impossibilty.

  • @ Art Deco, Fr Longenecker apparently changed the essay after I responded to him about the disparity between his treatment of Melania Trump and his treatment of Nancy Reagan. That all happened on twitter. Well, I know the truth and so does Father. One more example of why I am disgusted with all things Roman.

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  • I responded to him about the disparity between his treatment of Melania Trump and his treatment of Nancy Reagan.

    I’m not sure where Melania stands regarding anything. She’s Slovene so likely does have some familiarity with elements of Catholic culture. AFAIK, that’s the only strand of religious thought and practice of any consequence there.

    Nancy Reagan married someone else’s discarded husband. There is not any doubt that Jane Wyman put her unwilling husband out on the curb. Melania’s not implicated in DJT’s divorce from Ivanka, to be sure. I’m not sure why you’d insist the two cases be treated as similar (bar that you’re focused on Melania’s conduct and not DJT’s). If you’re concerned with canon law, I think you’d have a better argument if it was your thesis that the Reagan-Wyman marriage merited a declaration of nullity than if it was your thesis that the Donald-Ivanka marriage did. Jane Wyman had two previous marriages and it’s a reasonable guess (not a slam dunk) that her marriages to Messrs. Futterman, Reagan, and Karger were invalid in a civil sense because bigamous. (There is some reason she refused throughout the course of her life to acknowledge in print her marriage to Ernest Wyman, even after Edmund Morris located the marriage license in a Los Angeles County archive).

    Sorry for chewing on this.

  • It may be a good idea for the First Lady to meet with a spiritual advisor – preferably from Christendom College and not Georgetown or Catholic University of America. Having said that, I will defer to Mr. McClarey’s statement and leave it at that.

  • Well, according to Catholic teaching, she is currently living in an adulterous relationship with her husband. That’s not a criticism of her per se, just a statement of fact.

    Either she does not attend Mass, or if she does, it’s likely she takes communion while in an objective state of grave sin. Again, as funny it may sound, I intend no criticism of her by saying that.

    I like Melania Trump and I wouldn’t be surprised if she is a believing Christian and even a believing Catholic in so far as she believes the incomplete or partly erroneous list of things she has been taught. And I say “incomplete” or “erroneous” to give her the benefit of the doubt. It’s reasonable to think that she doesn’t really understand Catholic teachings on marriage because she wasn’t catechized fully or correctly, or because she believes that that sort of “strict” stuff doesn’t apply anymore or whatever, because that’s the message she’s picked up from her priests, bishops and even the Pope.

    But even if none of that is her fault (which again, I’m perfectly willing to believe), it’s not clear that it’s helpful to say (as the linked article did) that she is a “practicing Catholic.” I guess I would call her a sort of lapsed Catholic.

  • Sorry. I didn’t realize it was the Daily Mail. I thought it was a Catholic publication

  • All this makes me laugh And cry!
    I like Melania, my sisters and brothers, cousins and friends and so many others in pretty much the same boat… Not the barque.
    As much as I am upset with P Francis – the keeper of the keys who has left them lying on the doorstep. I also wonder how God Himself will view it if some of the big messy family o’mine would take advantage the missionaries of mercy and “come home” while they can.

  • In order for Melania Trump to regularize her marriage, her husband — not her — would have to go through a tribunal process for his previous marriages, and both of the ex wives, Ivana Trump (Ivanka is the daughter) and Marla Maples would have to be approached about participating, though the case could proceed without them if necessary. The odds of ANY sitting POTUS being able to go through that process without the media having a field day at the Church’s expense — let alone a president with as many determined enemies as Trump — are pretty remote. Whether or not he, as a non Catholic, would even agree to it is another issue. If Melania were to decide to wait until her husband is out of office to pursue this process, and in the meantime we’re to continue practicing her faith to the extent she is able (attending Mass but not receiving Communion), or to continue attending the Episcopal Church that her husband has been attending, I can’t say I would blame her.

  • I am about to BARF.

    The Demorat Convention actually booed God. It didn’t dissuade so-called Catholics from voting for abortion, gay marriage, and stealing from their neighbors using the all-powerful state as middle man.

    She said the “Our Father” in public. When was the last time you saw that?

    Hey! While we’re tearing at Melania, let’s hit her over the head about marrying The Donald for his billions . . . And, I am about to BARF.

  • Many previous efforts to comment appear to have been blocked by an outside actor, who also knocked me out of the internet. So somebody takes them seriously.

    So the First Lady is Catholic. “Not that there’s anything wrong with that”, to quote an old saw from an iconic Seinfeld episode. Very pleasing was the First Lady’s conduct in the papal visit, and her knowledge of diverse languages is extremely impressive. See –
    http://www.westernjournalism.com/melania-trump-vis

    It would be an extraordinary feat for the First Lady to prevail upon the American President to pause in Lisbon or Lajes on the way back to discuss with President of the Portuguese Republic Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa the next Head of Mission of the American Embassy in Lisbon. The implications for Portugal, the United States and world civilization are great.

  • I don’t think anyone here “tore into” Melania. A few people (including me) simply pointed out a few obvious points regarding Catholic teachings. That everyone (including me) swooned a bit at her “Our Father,” as well as seeing that obviously touching photo of her contemplating the Virgin Mary, shows how prone all faithful Catholics are in these bad times to grasp at any straws that we can.

  • Melania Trump is not Catholic. – the heresy on this site is appalling! So she said the *Our Father*! When have we seen her go to Mass on Sunday? Is he son baptized Catholic? She was married in a Palm Beach Church. I am not questioning her devotion to Our Lady – or her love of God. Please do not say she is a Catholic, or worse yet – a *practicing* Catholic!!!! This is a disgrace.

  • Just an idle few observations:

    Melania is just now recently “out” as Catholic. If no one has seen her baptismal records, why would we assume that she regularly receives Communion? Further, as much as paparazzi surely must have followed her for the past 12 or so years since married to The Don, the news of Melania being Catholic is “new”. Surely, they could have published photos of her “secretly” attending Mass similar to how all of the tabloids find all of the Kardashians at various resorts and in differing levels of undress. Just look at the sidebar photos at The Daily Mail…but, men, don’t look too long lest you near an occasion of sin.

    It is plausible that she is much like the tax collector rather than the Pharisee, and may attend Mass but not partake of Communion.

    It’s also plausible that she’s rediscovering the Catholic faith of her homeland, of which she was kept from due to her father’s role in the then-Communist government.

    The main point I’m making is: we have pictures of her wearing a veil while meeting the Pope (not unusual, given the apparent protocols of papal state visits), of her requesting Pope Francis bless her Rosary, of her praying in a chapel, laying flowers at a statue of the Blessed Mother, and of her praying with kids. We have a video of her leading a rally in The Lord’s Prayer.

    We don’t have pictures of her taking Communion. Nor do we have videos of her proclaiming that Planned Parenthood is a vital resource for women and has little to do with abortion, nor are there videos of her stating that she’s “personally opposed to abortion”, nor are there public statements of hers that resemble any of a number of Ccatholic Democrat politicians.

    I’m hopeful that she will, in whatever capacity she can, serve as a good and public witness of the Catholic faith…better than most that we have in the political realm.

  • Lots of off the mark comments off the mark. Interesting that Mrs., Trump is at least not ashamed to be identified as a Catholic. I will wait and see. Newt’s wife is being attacked because of HIS unhappy experiences with wives. Since Trump has appointed Newt’s wife, there has been all kinds of sneering about her supposed lack of credentials. As if The posts to London and Paris have not verb forever been not occupied By campaign donors, when Shirley Temple Black served as Ambassador. Mrs Gingrich is certainly better connected with the White House, although Mrs Black was politically savvy and a very bright woman.

  • Why is Pence given a pass? He freely admits he was baptized as Catholic and raised Catholic, then in college started going to an Evagelical church and now tells people he’s an “Evangelical Catholic.” He does not attend Mass. Pence is treated like a great moral Christian and it’s never mentioned that he’s a lapsed Catholic. He sees nothing wrong with mentioning his Catholic upbringing when it suits him, but also says he was “looking for more” so he “found Jesus” in college. All the Evangelicals love him and call him one of their own and I suspect a lot of that has to do with him throwing his Catholic faith under the bus.

  • Would that all elected Catholics voted the same way Pence did in Congress on abortion. In the wake of Vatican II it is not surprising to me that a man like Pence jumped ship on the Church. 100% Catholicism is a joy to behold; the ersatz Catholicism foisted on us since 1965 is too often a pain to endure. Ugly liturgy, dreadful music, bizarre churches. Catholic “education” that has created generations of Catholics ignorant of the basic teachings of the Faith. Rail against Pence if you must, but the real problem here is the current state of the Church.

  • “but the real problem here is the current state of the Church.” Truer words were never spoken .
    The sorry state of the Church …sorry state of us individual Catholics. Lord, have mercy.

  • Franciscus would dispense Holy Communion to her because adulterers must be accompanied,

    On a brighter note, she is easy on the eyes compared to she who had the biceps and shoulders of an NFL strong safety.

  • On a brighter note, she is easy on the eyes compared to she who had the biceps and shoulders of an NFL strong safety.

    Why are you comparing Melania to Serena Williams?

  • Has Melania been baptized? Her spokesperson isn’t even sure of that. All she said was that Melania was raised in a Communist household.

    When she married Trump, was she certain his two previous marriages were invalid or annulled? Did she marry Trump in a Catholic ceremony?

    Does she go to Mass every Sunday and Holyday of Obligation? Does she go to Confession and Holy Communion once a year during Eastertide?

    Does she contribute to her parish or to the missions?

    Does using a Rosary as a dress ornament make one a “practicing Catholic?”

  • Yes she has been baptized:

    Melania’s parents lived in a two-room apartment in Sevnica, a town of about 5,000 residents. They acquired the house through the housing plan of the now liquidated Jutranca textile company where they worked. After Melania was born they moved to a nearby building with an extra room.

    Viktor, Melania’s father, was a member of the Communist Party. Several neighbors agree that he joined more out of convenience than conviction. That ensured fewer problems with the party after his daughter was baptized in a Catholic church, like many of the family’s relatives.

    http://www.univision.com/univision-news/politics/the-life-and-secrets-of-melania-trump

    I would note that she did not claim to be a good Catholic or a devout Catholic. She obviously understands however that with her baptism she is a Catholic. I would think the reaction of those claiming to be good Catholics would be to encourage her, and not to berate her.

  • Best comment I’ve seen on it:
    Melania Trump is the first Catholic to live at the White House since JFK!

    I’m still not sure if the irony is on purpose or not.

  • I would think the reaction of those claiming to be good Catholics would be to encourage her, and not to berate her.

    Depends– is she publicly supporting slaughtering innocents, sterilizing prior to recreational sex, equating homosexual sexual activity with married couples, etc? If not, well, why wouldn’t they berate her…. -.-

  • For every nasty comment about this VERY LOVEY, GOOD WIFE AND MOTHER-stick it!
    Have you awful people nothing nice to say?
    Why would she tell anyone anything, so they can make more nasty jokes!!!
    I’m delighted. She’s a LADY unlike Mrs. Clinton who didn’t even know that it was HER HUSBAND BILL CLINTON WHO WAS IMPEACHED, not President Nixon, who by the way resigned to save the country as lengthy trial and expense. He was a class act and doesn’t get nearly the credit he deserves. No other president besides President Clinton has been impeached except one in approx. 1869.

    So lying, deceitful, nasty, Hillary get your facts straight just ONCE, please tell the truth, even though I know it’s not within you. I know you think you can rewrite history, but for Gods sake don’t be so obvious and say something that unfortunately enough people know the truth about are still enough people are alive!!!!!!! Let me point out to people like you who NO LONGER ARE IN POWER -TO LIE AND COVER UP WRONG DOINGS (THANKS TO THE WISE AMERICAN PEOPLE) it was YOUR HUSBAND BILL CLINTON WHO WAS IMPEACHED AND “HIM” IN THE 20TH. CENTURY AND ONLY THE 2ND. PRES. IN HISTORY.

    Do you really think you can just lie about anything and say anything and nobody’s gonna call you out on it. What about the people that four that die because if you, what about all those emails on your server, what about all the other things you’ve done, the list goes on and on and on. My God woman go away go away with some scintilla of dignity. YOU HAVE “NO” CHANCE TO WIN A POST AGAIN!!!!! You should be in JAIL!

  • Viktor, Melania’s father, was a member of the Communist Party. Several neighbors agree that he joined more out of convenience than conviction.
    After Hungary made a statutory provision for alternative political parties to organize (in January 1989), the local communist party held a convention to re-organize and re-brand. One measure approved was a call to all members to apply for new party cards. About 4% of the nominal membership applied for the new cards. In occidental countries wherein political parties are private membership organizations, you might expect 3-4% of the adult population to take out memberships. A similar share of Americans sit on party committees and volunteer on campaigns (or did when I was a disaffected student of political science). The communist parties in Eastern Europe had very bloated membership rolls given the size of the adult population in those places, presumably because there are quite a mess of people who’d like a promotion at their workplace.

  • Look, nobody has publically divulged the inside gouge on Trump’s marriages. Ivana was previously married and divorced. There’s some supposition that it was a green card marriage to enable her to emigrate to Canada. Was it a civil marriage? Was she a Catholic or not given her Czech/Austrian heritage? There could be many reasons not apparent to the general public why Trump’s previous marriages could be considered invalid according to the R. Catholic Church. Also do we know if Melania was baptized into Roman or Orthodox Church. Many of the former Eastern Bloc countries had Roman, Byzantine, and Orthodox Catholic communities. The Orthodox as I understand it has different church law regarding divorce and remarriage as does the Anglican.
    Prince Charles could not marry Camilla in a Church of England service; they were married by magistrate. His sister Anne had to remarry in the Church of Scotland. His Aunt Margaret couldn’t marry Peter Townsend because he was divorced and his great uncle Edward had to abdicate the throne because he married twice divorced Wallis Simpson.
    I believe the Newt and Calixta Gingrich was validated when he converted to R. Catholicism. Was that under the Paulist Principle? I’ve never had occasion to know the in and outs of a marriage tribunal, but I do know that there are various reasons, spiritual, physical and psychological for annulments and that one should not judge situations on appearances of others’ marriages.
    I believe that the President will convert to Catholicism. I hope and pray that the Vice President will return to the faith of his childhood.

  • Melania Trump’s public demeanor as the First Lady, a loving wife and mother is refreshing.

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Saint Augustine on the Ascension

Thursday, May 25, AD 2017

Today our Lord Jesus Christ ascended into heaven; let our hearts ascend with him. Listen to the words of the Apostle: If you have risen with Christ, set your hearts on the things that are above where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God; seek the things that are above, not the things that are on earth. For just as he remained with us even after his ascension, so we too are already in heaven with him, even though what is promised us has not yet been fulfilled in our bodies.

Christ is now exalted above the heavens, but he still suffers on earth all the pain that we, the members of his body, have to bear. He showed this when he cried out from above: Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? and when he said: I was hungry and you gave me food. Why do we on earth not strive to find rest with him in heaven even now, through the faith, hope and love that unites us to him?

While in heaven he is also with us; and we while on earth are with him. He is here with us by his divinity, his power and his love. We cannot be in heaven, as he is on earth, by divinity, but in him, we can be there by love.

He did not leave heaven when he came down to us; nor did he withdraw from us when he went up again into heaven. The fact that he was in heaven even while he was on earth is borne out by his own statement: No one has ever ascended into heaven except the one who descended from heaven, the Son of Man, who is in heaven. These words are explained by our oneness with Christ, for he is our head and we are his body. No one ascended into heaven except Christ because we also are Christ: he is the Son of Man by his union with us, and we by our union with him are sons of God.

So the Apostle says: Just as the human body, which has many members, is a unity, because all the different members make one body, so is it also with Christ. He too has many members, but one body. Out of compassion for us he descended from heaven, and although he ascended alone, we also ascend, because we are in him by grace. Thus, no one but Christ descended and no one but Christ ascended; not because there is no distinction between the head and the body, but because the body as a unity cannot be separated from the head.

 

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  • Since we live near the Omaha archdiocese I was able to attend the Ascension liturgy on the actual holy day. The idea of a “holy” day, of sanctified time according to the feasts and seasons God has revealed to us in Scripture and Tradition has lately (30- 40 years) been dropped by Church Teaching Authority
    In our tri-diocese area what is a holy day of obligation in one part of the metro area is put off for the convenience of attending on Sunday in the other two dioceses…Sioux City and Sioux Falls…fulfilling two obligations in one so to speak. It is confusing for people growing up on diocesan borders who have family and friends in the other parts of the area– explain to your kids the what and why of a “holy day”!
    The very idea of holy days, of liturgical meaning to time is degraded. It is increasingly easy to doubt the Church.
    Instead of sanctifying time, just seem to go more and more with the secular flow.
    🙁 We can’t have Ascension be the beginning of the novena leading to pentecost unless we shorten our nine day prayer to seven.
    Actually the recognition of the feasts and seasons established by God is formative of Faith. What a slide–the formal departure from a God centered Church calendar which posits “obligation” to worship as God as taught us, to a “come when you can, if you don’t mind too much. And we will do the mass as fast as we can”.

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Ascension

Thursday, May 25, AD 2017

High Flight

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I’ve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
of sun-split clouds, — and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of — wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov’ring there,
I’ve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air….

Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace.
Where never lark, or even eagle flew —
And, while with silent, lifting mind I’ve trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
– Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.”

John Gillespie Magee, Jr.

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  • The Ascension (a Mystery of our Redemption) is recalled in the Second Glorious Mystery of the Holy Rosary. Desire the cardinal virtue of Hope. Meditate on the Ascension of Jesus 40 days after his Glorious Resurrection, in the presence of Mary and his disciples.

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PopeWatch: The Meeting

Thursday, May 25, AD 2017

 

 

 

 

Well the meeting occurred.  I would note that Ivanka and Melania were properly attired wearing black with veils, a fitting display of respect for the Vicar of Christ:

 

The meeting turned out not to be about Francis, the leader of 1.2 billion Catholics, taking the American president to the woodshed about building a wall or closing borders to refugees.

Diplomatically speaking, they met as equals – as Heads of State.

There is a huge clash of styles between the two men: the pope, a model of humility; and Trump, more of a showman-businessman combo.

But Francis is all about finding common ground. And while Trump is known for his “Art of the Deal,” Francis has the divine calling for the Art of Persuasion. In that vein, a key exchange of the meeting was his gift to the president: copies of his three major writings.

The first is his encyclical, “Evangelii Gaudium” — The Joy of the Gospel.  This is about finding the core of Christianity. It’s about real faith. It will speak to Francis’ reason behind his statement, “No true Christian would build a wall.”

Next is “Amoris Laetitia” — The Joy of Love. This is about family, about sexual mores, divorce, communion and all those thorny issues the church is dealing with as the meaning of “family” in a secularized world has changed. The key here is that it is neither conservative nor liberal. It was Francis’ unique way of speaking the truth in love.

And finally, “Laudato Si” — On Care of Our Common Home. This is the major encyclical on the environment and climate change. It had a big release in 2015, with many seeing this as a central focus of Francis’ papacy. It is an issue they may disagree on, but again, Francis is about persuasion. He’s letting his writing do the talking.

President Trump said, “Well, I’ll be reading them.”

Most of the real diplomacy work took place during the president’s brief meeting afterwards with the Vatican’s Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin, and the Secretary for Relations with States Monsignor Paul Richard Gallagher.

Reports called them “cordial discussions” that included talks about a joint commitment in favor of life,  freedom of worship, and  freedom of conscience – all issues the Catholic Church is concerned about.

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  • Two things that occur to me after reading this post: 1) Francis’ giving copies of his own writings
    to Trump smacks of that same egotistic behavior we saw when Obama gave Queen Elizabeth II
    a gift of an iPod loaded with recordings of his speeches. And 2) It’s pretty rich to act friendly
    and respectful in a face-to-face meeting with Trump, and then turn around and have him badmouthed
    in Il Sismografo. Especially when that badmouthing includes an accusation of “say(ing)
    everything and the opposite of everything”. I’d say that a supposed ally who behaves like that
    is himself “not particularly reliable”.

    I’m guessing that Pope Francis has likely insured that in any future dealings with President Trump
    the Holy See will be humored and ignored in the most diplomatic, politest way.

  • “..Francis is all about finding common ground” .
    “The key here is that it is neither conservative nor liberal.” “Francis is about persuasion. He’s letting his writing do the talking.”

    ???

  • Trump should go out of his way to praise the Catholic religion itself from a historical perspective and the great figures of the past, especially Christ himself, who pointed the way to achieving world peace.

    And he in no way should acknowledge the Modernist vision of the Church and it’s focus on secular issues and Socialist ideology as expressed by Pope Francis who is essentially an anti-Catholic figure.

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Empty Words After Manchester

Wednesday, May 24, AD 2017

“His Holiness Pope Francis was deeply saddened to learn of the injury and tragic loss of life caused by the barbaric attack in Manchester, and he expresses his heartfelt solidarity with all those affected by this senseless act of violence.”

May 23, 2017

Pope Francis signaled Monday that Europe’s refugee crisis will be a top political and diplomatic priority for the Vatican in 2016, using an annual speech to diplomats accredited to the Vatican to urge “assistance and acceptance” for massive waves of migrants arriving today on the Old Continent.

January 11, 2016

 

 

We can all understand the idiotic game being played by this time.  Jihadists slay innocents, politicians and religious leaders make empty statements of condemnation and solidarity, almost always the same politicians and religious figures who have fostered mass Islamic immigration to the West, and we go on our way, amidst calls against Islamophobia, until the next Jihadist act of butchery and the cycle repeats.  The West, with rare exceptions, has leadership that is not only impotent in the face of jihadists, but eagerly swells the numbers from which they recruit in the West.  Bruce Bawer at City Journal nails it:

Damn these jihadist murderers of children. And damn the politicians who have, in many cases, helped make these murders possible but who are quick, this time and every time, to serve up empty declarations of “solidarity”even as the bodies of innocents are still being counted.

London mayor Sadiq Khan (who recently dismissed terrorist attacks as “part and parcel of living in a big city”): “London stands with Manchester.” Orlando mayor Buddy Dyer (who, in the wake of the Pulse nightclub massacre, proclaimed a CAIR-backed “Muslim Women’s Day”—you know, the kind of event that proclaims hijabs “empowering”): Orlando “stands in solidarity with the people of the UK.” L.A. mayor Eric Garcetti (who went berserk when Trump tried to impose that temporary travel ban from a half-dozen Muslim countries): “Los Angeles stands with the people of Manchester.”

Meaningless words, all of them. But Angela Merkel takes the cake: “People in the UK can rest assured that Germany stands shoulder to shoulder with them.” Well, isn’t that . . . reassuring. In what way do such words help anybody to “rest assured” of anything? In any case, how dare she? This, after all, is the woman who opened the floodgates—the woman who, out of some twisted sense of German historical guilt, put European children in danger by inviting into the continent masses of unvetted people from the very part of the world where this monstrous evil has its roots.

Then there was this from European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker: “Once again, terrorism has sought to instill fear where there should be joy, to sow division where young people and families should be coming together in celebration.” Beneath the innocuous-seeming surface of this statement is a slick rhetorical ruse: Juncker to the contrary, these savages aren’t out to “sow division”—they’re out to kill infidels. By introducing the concept of “division,” Juncker, like so many others, is implying that the important message here is: Hey, whatever you do, don’t let this little episode put any bad thoughts about Islam into your head!

Manchester City Council leader Sir Richard Leese also spoke of “fear” and “division”: “Manchester is a proud, strong city and we will not allow terrorists who seek to sow fear and division to achieve their aims.” Guess what, pal? They did achieve their aims: they killed 22 people, including children, and injured several dozen. Dead infidels: that’s their objective, period. (Or, as you would say, full stop.)

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  • Quislings all, lead by the evil clown. No loving father invites the danger into his home when his children will be at risk. Pope Francis does this again and again and then has the gall to express his “heartfelt solidarity” with those he has helped to put at risk. His words, of course, spoken behind thick walls while he is protected by armed guards. He sows division. He abandons the flock. He needs to be called out.

  • These politicians support murder of unborn children in the womb.

    These politicians support immigration of Islamists who murder born children in music theatres.

    Tell me the difference.

  • Blind guides indeed. Willingly do they cover their eyes.

  • There is not much the Pope can do here other than make pro forma statements. There is something he can refrain from doing, which is suggesting that it is sinful to enforce national border controls or to care for refugees in camps adjacent to zones of conflict (rather than importing them into miliieux where they are sadly incompatible with the extant population). The perpetrator is supposedly a Maghreb Arab born in Britain whose parents were granted ‘refugee’ status at some point. It’s rather puzzling that they were living in Britain rather than Morocco, Tunisia, or Algeria.

    As for the hag-chancellor, the reaction of the political class in Sweden, Germany, and France has been a mix of legal harassment of political dissidents (Brigitte Bardot has been prosecuted 5x) and concealing information. Their contempt for the interests of their domestic working class is so thorough that they’re in the business of wrecking their institutions and civic customs in order to keep injuring that class.

  • Art Deco, as usual, is 100% correct. The reigning elites hold the people in contempt and their self-serving policies abuse and misuse the “little people.”

    Rational people didn’t need more proof. The idiot left (redundant) and the deranged will never admit it. The Manchester massacre (as did 10,000 terror attacks since 2001) proved (for the 7,000th time) that President Donald J. Trump is right.

    Papa Foxtrot, Obama, Hillary, et al are dead wrong. The increasing body counts are proof.

    Civilizations are not murdered. Civilizations commit suicide.

  • They can all stand “shoulder to shoulder” as a man with a dull knife beheads them …and their little children too.

  • “London mayor Sadiq Khan (who recently dismissed terrorist attacks as “part and parcel of living in a big city”)”

    That’s false. He was responding to speculation about an attack in New York City a few months ago, and said:

    “I’m not going to speculate as to who is responsible. I’m not going to speculate as to how the police in New York should react. What I do know is part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job, you’ve got to support the security services, and I think speculating when you don’t have the facts is unwise.”

    Should he have been more willing to speculate about the bombing? Fine. But he wasn’t dismissing terrorism, and repeating someone who said without an explanation is morally questionable.

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  • I’m sorry Pinky. The quote may be incorrect but it is not misleading. Terror attacks and threats thereof in the “great global city” of NYC were few and far between prior to the present rise of jihad. Much of Mayor Khan’s comment makes sense, but then would he really support the incredibly hard steps that would reduce the “incredibly hard job” he cites? Identify radical aliens and deport them, or if not that then at least let no more into the country? Somehow one doubts that he would, and so the use of the quote is not inaccurate.

  • Clickbait hackery will call for internment or mass surveillance or some other dramatic gesture that satisfies the craving to ‘just do something, damnit’, but that would do little to improve security or that, even if it did, would require us to sacrifice the very principles that, in our grander moments, we think define our society, our way of life. Here, as everywhere, there are trade-offs and sometimes these are deeply, necessarily, uncomfortable.

    Instinctively, I think, most people understand this. They appreciate that realism is not the same as fatalism and far less is it any kind of capitulation. Even amidst heartbreak, decency finds a way. We saw that, in the immediacy of the moment, in the thousands of individual acts of instinctive kindness in Manchester last night and this morning. Taken singly these were only small; together they became something mighty.

    That’s not enough but neither is it nothing. We grieve and we mourn and we do not forget. But we do go on.

  • Pope Francis and politicians with attitudes of encouragement of mass immigration and fatuous sympathy and benign “solidarity” with Islamic mass murder bear a portion of the responsibility for these horrific events.

  • TomD wrote, “Terror attacks and threats thereof in the “great global city” of NYC were few and far between prior to the present rise of jihad.”

    But not in the UK. On 15 June 1996, a far more evil and remorseless foe, the IRA exploded a truck bomb in the centre of Manchester, injuring 212 people. Many surrounding buildings had to be demolished and rebuilt.

    Andy Burnham, the Mayor of Manchester is from Warrington where, on 26 February 1993, the IRA exploded one device outside a gas storage facility and two others outside shops in Bridge Street. Two children were killed and 56 people were injured.

    The attacks on London were too numerous to list, but I have personal reasons to recall two, in particular. One was on Thursday 8th March 1973, when the IRA set off a bomb outside the Central Criminal Court in Old Bailey in London. The bomb, about 14 kg or 30 lb of Semtex, was in a car across the street from a public house called the Magpie & Stump. One bar faces the street and the other is behind it, reached from an alleyway called Bishop’s Court. I was in the back bar, when the front of the building was blown in. In the street, one person died and one hundred and forty were injured. The other was on on Saturday 17th December 1983, when the IRA planted another car bomb, similar to the Old Bailey bomb, in Hans Crescent, at the back of Harrods’s, the London department store. I was going there to do some Xmas shopping and had stopped to chat to a friend in Sloan Street. I would have used the Hans Crescent entrance. Six people were killed, including three police officers who had just arrived and were still in their car. One of the dead was an American visitor. Ninety people were injured.

    NYC was a hotbed of Fenian support for the Fenian murderers, seeking to put down the authority and government of the Queen in Northern Ireland. The resolute response of the people of that province, where 3,000 people were killed, was summed up in graffiti everywhere: No Surrender.

  • “NYC was a hotbed of Fenian support for the Fenian murderers, seeking to put down the authority and government of the Queen in Northern Ireland. The resolute response of the people of that province, where 3,000 people were killed, was summed up in graffiti everywhere: No Surrender.”

    I have absolutely no sympathy for the Marxist murderers of the IRA of the contemporary era, but the “No Surrender” slogan long pre-dated the beginning of the contemporary Troubles in Northern Ireland in 1969. It was symbolic of the sectarian hatred that treated Northern Irish Catholics as helots in their own land and made certain that Protestant extremists could grind their faces into the dust in perpetuity. It was this situation that gave the appalling IRA any popular support. Of course, Protestant extremists did their own share of bombings and random murders of innocent Catholic civilians. The irony of course is that fervent Catholics were sparse on the ground in the contemporary IRA just as regular church going attendance was not a hallmark of their murderous Protestant counterparts, faith being reduced to an ethnic marker. The Jihadists are far different in that regard.

  • MP-S: Why did the Irish hate you guys?

    In NYC saloons, men would pass the hat in NYC Irish saloons.

    There is one yuge difference between the UK ruling elites’ reaction to the IRA insurrection and the jihad. It’s racism. It was SOP to deploy SAS assassination teams to kill iRA terrorists. it was common to set up paratrooper (I knew a Brit para that was on the teams) snipers teams to kill curfew breakers. It was ok to set up army check points/machine guns/armored vehicles in Catholic neighborhoods.

    For the jihad it’s “Why do they hate us?” and it is forbidden to talk about jihad.

  • MPS, Mark Steyn just wrote a great rebuttal on comparisons between the two Manchester bombings:

    “A couple of hours ago, as I write, the Arndale shopping center in Manchester was evacuated, somewhat chaotically, with hundreds of customers stampeding for the exits lest they be the cause of The Independent’s next carry-on editorial. The Arndale was the scene of the city’s last big terror attack – in 1996, when the IRA totaled it. Two hundred people were injured, but nobody died, and you don’t have to be a terror apologist like Jeremy Corbyn to find the bad old days of Irish republicanism almost quaint by comparison. A few weeks ago the BBC reported that “approximately 850 people” from the United Kingdom have gone to Syria and Iraq to fight for Isis and the like. That’s more volunteers than the IRA were able to recruit in thirty years of the “Troubles”, when MI5 estimated that they never had more than a hundred active terrorists out in the field. This time maybe it’s the exotic appeal of foreign travel, as opposed to a month holed up in a barn in Newry.”

    See the full article at https://www.steynonline.com/section/14/steyn-on-europe

    Steyn also raises another IRA / Jihad comparison in the same article:

    “Thirty years ago, in the interests of stopping IRA terrorism, the British state was not above preventing the internal movement within its borders of unconvicted, uncharged, unarrested Republican sympathizers seeking to take a ferry from Belfast to Liverpool. Today it declares it can do nothing to prevent the movement of large numbers of the Muslim world from thousands of miles away to the heart of the United Kingdom. It’s just a fact of life – like being blown up when you go to a pop concert.”

  • Donald R McClarey wrote, “[T]he “No Surrender” slogan long pre-dated the beginning of the contemporary Troubles in Northern Ireland.”

    It is very old and may go back to the Siege of Londonderry in 1689. It has long been used by the Apprentice Boys of Derry. It was popularised by Sir Edward Carson to express opposition to the Third Home Rule bill of 1912 and the signing of the Ulster Covenant. Carson’s more than life-size statue stands in front of the Stormont Parliament building in Northern Ireland.

    It was again popularised by the Rev Dr Ian Paisley during the recent Troubles: “No surrender. We will never bend the knee.”

    It is used by Loyalists to express their determination to preserve their civil and religious freedoms.

  • It was symbolic of the sectarian hatred that treated Northern Irish Catholics as helots in their own land and made certain that Protestant extremists could grind their faces into the dust in perpetuity. It was this situation that gave the appalling IRA any popular support.

    This seems rather florid. Catholics in Ulster were a subaltern population treated brusquely by the Royal Ulster Constabulary. Political institutions were a ruin. That having been said, they were not in any state of hereditary servitude.

    Of course, Protestant extremists did their own share of bombings and random murders of innocent Catholic civilians.

    We can check. My recollection is that the UDA / UVF was much less active than the IRA / INLA and that the death toll from Nationalist violence exceeded that from Unionist violence by a factor of about 6.

  • TomD

    There were some 10,000 bomb attacks during the Troubles (1969-1998) The IRA threat was far from trivial.

    As for “Why did the Irish hate you guys?” That raises the question why so many Irish people were willing to endure such suffering and disruption to their lives, rather than contemplate absorption into the Free State. Ask the Irish community here in the West of Scotland, 50,000 of whom will be taking part in marches on 12 July to celebrate the Battle of the Boyne.

  • “We can check.”

    About half the people who died in The Troubles were Catholic:

    http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/sutton/tables/Religion.html

  • “This seems rather florid.”

    Substitute fifth class citizen for Helot.

  • “It is used by Loyalists to express their determination to preserve their civil and religious freedoms.”

    All of which they would enjoy if the government of the Republic ruled all of Ireland. What the slogan means is “We have the whip hand over you croppies and we mean to hold on to it.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croppies_Lie_Down

  • Substitute fifth class citizen for Helot.

    What are the other four classes? Maeve Binchey (a writer I do not much care for) participated in a panel discussion hosted by the Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions back in 1981. By her own report, she and her circle had a puzzled disgust reaction to the political agitation in the north. For them, a trip to Belfast had been an outing, a place more pleasant in certain respects than Dublin. (To be sure, Binchey was part of the minority in Ireland not on board with the country’s Catholic culture. Conor Cruise O’Brien, a less abrasive and annoying writer than Binchey, was another).

    Do not have much granular knowledge of the period running from 1923 to 1969. What I see referred to concern disputes over parade routes, disputes over political patronage (e.g. council housing and car parks), a wretched electoral system, and discourteous treatment from police officers. Abrasion and unpleasantness is something distinct from oppression. The British government could have repaired the electoral system, at the very least.

    All of which they would enjoy if the Republican government ruled all of Ireland.

    See Conor Cruise O’Brien on this issue. The (pro-forma) assent to the notion of a United Ireland was more prevalent in the Irish Republic after 1969 than among Catholics in Ulster, who always had among them a large minority (about 1/3) who thought the idea unworkable. That remains true today in Ulster, where many Catholics and all but a small minority of Protestants are opposed to incorporation into the Republic. O’Brien put it thus: a United Ireland ‘would enlarge the problem and reverse the roles’. Garret FitzGerald was adamant on a related point: the IRA had no interest in parliamentary institutions and sought a military dictatorship over the whole island.

    According to this site here:

    http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/past/troubles/troubles_stats.html#statusperpetrator

    About 20% of the death toll was recorded outside Ulster, and of that the Provos were responsible for 82% and three other nationalist militias for 7%. Of the 80% which occurred in Ulster, the four unionist militias plus the Royal Ulster Constabulary accounted for 37% of the death toll.

  • “What are the other four classes?”

    1. Members of the ruling Stormont government.
    2. Protestants who controlled the various loyalist organizations that effectively kept almost all Catholics at the bottom rungs in business and the economy in general.
    3. Protestants who could vote in local elections.
    4. Protestants who could not vote in local elections.
    5. Catholics.

  • “Garret FitzGerald was adamant on a related point: the IRA had no interest in parliamentary institutions and sought a military dictatorship over the whole island.”

    Something they have as much chance of imposing as the moon being made of cheddar. The Republic of Ireland has its flaws, but after the initial chaos of its birth, and the brief Civil War of the twenties, its protection of civil liberties, including of its Protestant minority, has been admirable.

  • 1. Members of the ruling Stormont government. 2. Protestants who controlled the various loyalist organizations that effectively kept almost all Catholics at the bottom rungs in business and the economy in general. 3. Protestants who could vote in local elections. 4. Protestants who could not vote in local elections. 5. Catholics.

    1. By this standard, every country with a government has a ‘second-class citizens’.

    2. I’m not sure how ‘loyalist organizations’ were ‘able to keep Catholics on the bottom rungs of the economic ladder’. The Catholic population was not without human capital nor were Catholic firms unable to trade with each other, with firms in Britain, or with firms in the Irish Free State. I suppose some sort of formal lodge system provides referrals for its members, but that’s not a necessary or sufficient condition for systemic discrimination to emerge. It wouldn’t surprise me to discover that Catholics had a hard time landing civil service positions. At the same time, the civil service is but 15% of the workforce in a typical occidental country.

    (3, 4, 5) Five Irish republicans were seated n the British parliament in 1935 and nationalists held about 20% of the seats in the Stormont parliament. I don’t think suffrage was ever at issue in Ulster. The problem was gerrymandering and first-past-the-post in the context of a fairly conformist political culture among Ulster protestants. (The Unionist Party eventually did break up into several competing successors, which matched the fragmentation in the Catholic vote). There wasn’t any competition in a great many constituencies prior to 1969.

  • “I don’t think suffrage was ever at issue in Ulster.”

    In order to vote in local elections local taxes had to be paid or one could not vote in local elections. An effective mechanism for disenfranchising the predominantly poor Catholics.

    . I’m not sure how ‘loyalist organizations’ were ‘able to keep Catholics on the bottom rungs of the economic ladder’.

    By boycotts, intimidation and making sure that Catholics did not get government employment or contracts. It had more than a passing resemblance to the treatment of blacks in the Jim Crow South.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=2_qADAAAQBAJ&pg=PA98&lpg=PA98&dq=boycotts+of+Catholic+business+in+northern+ireland&source=bl&ots=4gnJQ0F5xa&sig=tP-cx_1A4lDgFCUdESG5I6PttRo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiX4ZqU-4vUAhVFlVQKHVuqAOIQ6AEILTAC#v=onepage&q=boycotts%20of%20Catholic%20business%20in%20northern%20ireland&f=false

  • Per this site here

    http://www.theirishstory.com/2013/04/08/democracy-in-ireland-a-short-history/

    You had universal suffrage in Northern Ireland, but people who paid taxes on multiple properties had a vote for each property.

    By boycotts, intimidation and making sure that Catholics did not get government employment or contracts. It had more than a passing resemblance to the treatment of blacks in the Jim Crow South.

    In fissured societies (e.g. Quebec) you have segregation of patronage. I’m not sure you need much in the way of organized activity for this to occur.

  • The government was completely behind the effort to shut out Catholics from economic life Art. From Basil Brooke, Prime Minister of Northern Ireland, prior to him becoming Prime Minister, who ruled from 1943-1963:

    “Many in this audience employ Catholics, but I have not one about my place. Catholics are out to destroy Ulster…If we in Ulster allow Roman Catholics to work on our farms we are traitors to Ulster…I would appeal to loyalists, therefore, wherever possible, to employ good Protestant lads and lassies.”

  • Anyone who has visited Belfast in the 1970s, as I have, would have seen that the question of employment for Catholics/Nationalists was physical and moral, rather than political.
    To see the young women on the Falls Road – scrawny, rat-tail hair, skin grey and shiny with anti-depressants, wearing thin nylon cardigans on a raw January morning, dragging grimy, unkempt toddlers, many with their legs bandy with rickets; the lanky, bat-eared youths, with coat-hanger shoulders and the narrow pelvises that come from ante-natal malnutrition; the men, squat and stunted, with short, stumpy legs.
    To say they lived like pigs would be a slur on British farmers. Soldiers who entered the Divis flats in central Belfast took their lives in their hands, not only because it was a hotbed of Republican activists, but because it was the only place in Europe to suffer an outbreak of cholera in the mid-20th century. Also typhus – mortuary attendants described seeing the lice dropping from the cooling corpses.

  • Thus the Nazis tended to portray their Jewish victims MPS. You cannot oppress a people for over a half century, condemn them to live in grinding poverty as a result of pervasive discrimination, and then complain because the victims are not bright and cheery.

  • The government was completely behind the effort to shut out Catholics from economic life Art. From Basil Brooke, Prime Minister of Northern Ireland, prior to him becoming Prime Minister, who ruled from 1943-1963:

    A population of a requisite size (1/3 of the total) cannot be ‘shut out of economic life’. You can make life more difficult for them, but that’s all. Black Americans were not shut out of economic life in 1948 (when, per Thos. Sowell, their unemployment rate was lower than national means) and they could not be shut out of economic life in Ulster. You can shut them out of public employment, of course. I’ve found two sources which suggest that production per capita in Ulster differed only modestly from the Free State (with one being about 60% of the British mean and the other 55%). If that’s true, it’s reasonable to infer that the human capital abroad in the Catholic population on both sides of the border was too ample for Ulster protestants to ruin their economic life outside of the realm of public sector employment. Denied employment with protestant firms, they could start their own firms or migrate to the Free State.

    Should also note that there was and (ceteris paribus) is a great deal more criminal violence in the Deep South than is the case on either side of the border in Ireland.

  • (with one being about 60% of the British mean and the other 55%).

    This refers to the period just after partition.

  • “A population of a requisite size (1/3 of the total) cannot be ‘shut out of economic life’. You can make life more difficult for them, but that’s all.”

    You can keep most of them poor as a result. The policy had some logic behind it, the same logic as the old Irish Penal laws. Make life so difficult that the unwanted Irish Catholics, at least those with brains and drive, will go elsewhere. This has the advantage of keeping the numbers of a despised population down, and shrinking their natural leadership class.

  • You can keep most of them poor as a result.

    Depends on what you man by ‘poor’. If you mean ‘with little in the way of assets of contextual significance’, that’s true of most people any time and any place. Most people’s wealth is in their human capital. Given the modest distinction in income levels between the Free State and Ulster, its difficult to believe there was a grand distinction in household incomes between Catholics and Protestants in Ulster. Some distinction, to be sure. Catholics in Ulster were certainly ‘poor’ in a different sense: real incomes in Ulster in 1926 were a fraction of what they are today. Same is true of any occidental country.

  • “Depends on what you man by ‘poor’.”

    Like a Catholic employment rate more than twice the Protestant unemployment rate in 1988:

    http://www.nytimes.com/1988/08/04/world/poverty-fear-and-strife-still-add-up-to-fewer-jobs-for-catholics-in-ulster.html?pagewanted=all&mcubz=0

    It was a news story in 2017 when the Catholic and Protestant employment rates were the same. It was the first time since statistics had been kept that the Catholic employment rate had not been lower than the Protestant employment rate.

  • Northern Ireland has the highest proportion of public sector workers in the UK – 28% or 220,000 people. Of these 55,000 work in the health and Social Care service.

  • Like a Catholic employment rate more than twice the Protestant unemployment rate in 1988:

    You’ve jumped ahead to a point in time more than 60 years after partition. At that time, you’d had the construction of the 2d generation welfare state (heavy on public housing, the command economy in the medical sector, and state-owned enterprise). It has been at that point 16 years since the Stormont assembly had been prorogued and 19 years since the beginning of chronic political violence. One other factor: the British labor market was in wretched shape. You had chronic double digit unemployment from about 1982 onward. Here

    http://www.portlandtrust.org/sites/default/files/pubs/epm_northern_ireland.pdf

    There are some figures on the Ulster labor market. The ratio of Catholic unemployment rates to protestant ones was about 2.3 ca. 1985. It declined to 1.7 by 2001, about a generation after Stormont had been prorogued and when the country was under a power-sharing arrangement.

    It should be noted that labor markets can grow more sclerotic (as they did for black men under 25 between 1960 and 1980) without any increase in inter-communal hostility.

  • “You’ve jumped ahead to a point in time more than 60 years after partition.”

    Yes and the Catholics were still effectively shut out from the profitable parts of the economy. I can think of no other explanation for such a great disparity between Catholic and Protestant in Northern Ireland. That the situation has improved over time is largely because the local Protestant elites have less control over Northern Ireland with the effective loss of Home Rule there, until the carrying out of the provisions of the Good Friday Agreement of 1998 which has improved conditions for Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland.

  • “Make life so difficult that the unwanted Irish Catholics, at least those with brains and drive, will go elsewhere. This has the advantage of keeping the numbers of a despised population down, and shrinking their natural leadership class”

    I can’t help but wonder if some of the extreme leftist policies being imposed or considered in “blue” U.S. states and cities (higher taxes, onerous regulations, sanctuary city policies, anti-discrimination mandates regarding abortion, transgenderism, etc.) don’t have a somewhat similar aim: to make it clear to the “deplorables” that they aren’t welcome and should either pack up or shut up. Remember what NY Gov. Cuomo said a few years back about social conservatives “having no place” in his state’s party politics? While he may not have literally meant “Social conservatives aren’t welcome to live or work in NY,” I suspect he wouldn’t consider it much of a loss, if any, if they did leave. I suspect the same is also true for cities like Chicago and San Francisco and states like CA and (unfortunately for me) IL. I don’t mean to put it on a par with the systematic persecution/repression suffered by Catholics in Ireland, but I do wonder sometimes if a similar dynamic is going on here.

  • Yes and the Catholics were still effectively shut out from the profitable parts of the economy. I

    You could not and cannot shut them out unless you have legislation of the sort you saw in interwar Hungary – occupational licensing stem to stern with quotas. That simply was not present in Ulster. Also, unemployment can effect someone in any economic stratum, but labor market sclerosis is commonly most severe for young people and for those working low-wage jobs, not handsomely compensated jobs. And, again, you’re forgetting the effects of arbitrage. Overall (in 1926), the Free State was not much less affluent than the North. Catholics in the North facing an uncongenial situation can decamp to Dublin or Galway. (If I’m not mistaken, you continued to have labor migration from the Free State to Britain proper during this period).

  • “You could not and cannot shut them out”

    Sure they could. Easy to keep them out of government employment when the same anti-Catholic party controlled Stormont until Home Rule was taken away. As the 1988 article indicated threats and violence were quite effective keeping Catholics away from private enterprises where they were not wanted. The divergence in employment rates could only be due to discrimination when two such similar populations, absent religion, are involved.

  • Sure they could. Easy to keep them out of government employment when the same anti-Catholic party controlled Stormont until Home Rule was taken away. As the 1988 article indicated threats and violence were quite effective keeping Catholics away from private enterprises where they were not wanted. The divergence in employment rates could only be due to discrimination when two such similar populations, absent religion, are involved.

    Out of government employment, yes. The share of the labor force in public employment varies a great deal over place and time. Public sector employment in the UK currently runs to about 18% of the workforce. Its a reasonable wager it was a great deal lower than that in 1935.

    There’s a distinction between making life more difficult for a class of people and immiserating them. You can attempt to organize a boycott of Catholic publicans. Catholic publicans have 400,000 of their co-religionists to serve and these folk can boycott protestant publicans. You can refuse to hire Catholic machinists. Your Catholic competitor will hire them. Absent targeted harassment of Catholic employers by state inspectorates, licensing requirements, &c., the Catholic population has the critical mass to engage in intramural economic life. The kind of human capital deficits that existed between black and white in the Deep South aren’t present across the confessional boundary (at least not nearly to the same degree). Also, Ulster was the most industrialized part of the island at that time. Dependency relationships you saw in the Deep South – sharecropping, debt peonage, payment in scrip, company stores – are more difficult to establish and maintain.

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May 24, 1935: First Night Game in Major League Baseball

Wednesday, May 24, AD 2017

Eighty-two years ago the first major league baseball game was  played under the lights, adding a new dimension to the game of Summer, and making it more accessible to most people who work for a living during the day.  The first baseball game under artificial illumination was played in 1880, the year after Thomas Edison invented the light bulb.  However the major league teams did not embrace this innovation for over a half century.  Economic need, as usual, was the driver involved in making night major league ball a reality.  Almost all ball teams struggled during the Great Depression and attendance at games was a matter of life or death for the teams.  Some minor league teams and teams of the Negro League had been playing ball under the lights since 1930.

Leland “Larry” MacPhail and Powel Crosley, the general manager and the owner of the Cincinnati Reds, noticed that minor league teams were drawing big crowds playing night games.  The Reds were averaging 2000-3000 fans a game, their loyal followers being simply unable to miss a precious day of work during the hard times in the middle of the Depression.  They took the bold stance of putting in lights at Crosley Field, hang the expense despite the precarious financial condition of the Reds.  The first night game was set for May 24, 1935 against the Philadelphia Phillies.  The Reds won two-one and 20,000 fans witnessed it, as 632 flood lights illumined the field.  Night ball was here to stay.

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PopeWatch: Separated at Birth

Wednesday, May 24, AD 2017

In anticipation of the grand meeting in Rome of Pope and President:

The leader can be described thusly:

  1. He is impulsive.
  2. He insults enemies.
  3. He uses twitter daily.
  4. He loves media attention.
  5. His most ardent supporters resemble a cult.
  6. He is autocratic.
  7. He is sometimes inarticulate when he goes off script.
  8. He is a source of division.
  9. His statements are frequently factually challenged.
  10. He believes in conspiracy theories.

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  • Yep. All of the above. Except, there is one yuuge difference. President Trump recently said at Liberty University, “In America, we worship God, not the Government.” Or, put another way, we worship the Creator, not Creation.

  • Well, ginny, there is actually another difference. Pope Francis is a hardened ideologue who is not shaken by facts and President Trump has no ideological core.

  • Other than that one is an intellectual and one is the total opposite of an intellectual, one has led a life or oral rectitude and service and the other debauchery and self-service, one tells the truth, the other one lies, etc.

    This post veers into the territory of false witness, Donald Trump’s home turf.

  • Pope Francis an intellectual? I doubt even he would claim that. Oral rectitude? The Pope Francis insult generator would testify against that. A life of service? In what cause? That of Cardinal Kasper, the old adversary of Pope Benedict?

    https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2017/05/burying-benedict

    Telling the truth? Pope Francis has the habit of saying things that are just not so. His belief, repeatedly stated, that arms merchants cause wars for example. Pope Francis is a walking epitome of the fake news concept.

    http://the-american-catholic.com/2016/03/28/popewatch-merchants-of-death-yet-again/

  • This post veers into the territory of false witness, Donald Trump’s home turf.

    Mote removal might not be on the current schedule.

  • It appears the President has a knack for surrounding himself with good advisors, good people and also that he is willing to listen and learn..
    I don’t know if the pope selected his closest advisors or if they selected him.

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