Thought For The Day
- Donald R. McClarey
Donald R. McClarey
Cradle Catholic. Active in the pro-life movement since 1973. Father of three, one in Heaven, and happily married for 43 years. Small town lawyer and amateur historian. Former president of the board of directors of the local crisis pregnancy center for a decade.
I can’t say I have ever heard any specifically heretical homilies, although one of my big failings as a regular Mass-attendee is I don’t pay all that much attention to homilies anymore, with some exceptions.
My experience when I did pay attention was they were either a) full of banalities or b) digging too deeply into the scholarly weeds for the congregation to keep up. I suppose I’m fortunate I didn’t deal with heretical sermons (I went to Mass off-campus in college to avoid the Jesuit nonsense).
I’ve heard a heretical homily … A Deacon said “Pray that the bad muslims become good muslims and that the good muslims remain true to their faith”
… The first reading was 1 John chapter 2.
That particular Deacon teaches RCIA
The good Deacon must have missed the part in his learning about making disciples of “all” nations.
Better dead than rude motivates way too many people.
At the cathedral in Yakima, WA, you could expect the Msgr to commit at least 1 minor heresy each mass. Occasionally a major one. The worst was when on “reformation day” they allowed a female Lutheran “bishop” to give a speech.
That was the greatest act of blasphemy I’ve ever seen… I wish I had the courage to have done a Peter Geach there lol.
Sometimes, I am fairly sure that a big part of why we have so many problems as a society is that we are too nice and obsessed with docility and politeness.
We don’t accept that there is place for righteous anger and we treat anything other than docility as a disorder to be treated rather than trying to understand why we are angry or sad for example.
Okay, my first reaction to this post was “should *I* be shouting heresy in the middle of a homily?”
My second reaction was “who is this Peter Geach? Ought I to follow his example?”
My third reaction, caused by quick internet research was “dang – I’m going to have to read some Peter Geach!!”
Don’t know much yet, but he seems witty, clever, orthodox and British. That puts him on the reading list! 📚📚📚
We had a visiting priest over the Christmas period whilst our Parish Priest was on leave. He leads a coastal diocese but is originally from India. He told the congregation during the Homily that when he was a young boy, a person in his village known for reading palms, read his palm and told his parents he would travel the world and do great things. Then he continued to say that the palm reader was correct as he became a Priest…
I don’t know if it’s in my head but at that moment you could “feel” a sense of shock through the pews. The regular Parish Priest, who comes from Tanzania, would never say such a thing.
Someone preaching heresy in Mass? Hmmm… Well, ..a lay man who made me think of Raggedy Andy gave a “homily” with that story about rock soup. Another occasion, a lady Episcopalian(?) minister preached for Mass at a Jesuit college. Other priests have offered… iffy.. content at one time and another.
..between those and SteveThePirate’s experience, …maybe there’s something in the water in Washington state.
Ezabelle-
Very sorry to hear that your Indian priest is not working out.
Each of the three Indian priest I’ve encountered in the States has been rock solid.
They each mentioned, very quietly, that Christ is not well received in India. One can never return to his home, another was routinely pelted with stones when he did processions there.
@The Bruised Optimist
Some excerpts from the works of Geach:
https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/search?q=geach&max-results=20&by-date=false
TBO – as mentioned, he is not our regular Priest. He was filling in for the Priest on leave. It’s not about the Priest not “working out” but the disclaimer is that Catholics should not delve, experiment or endorse the reading of palms…just incase you missed it. Also, I mentioned he was from India because he told the story “when I was a young boy in India…” as a preface. There are good and bad priests from all nations.
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I understand completely that we should not tolerate blatant heresy, but on the other hand, if we “normalize” walking out of homilies we don’t like or agree with, don’t we risk developing “itchy ears” that only listen to what we want to hear, and reject anything that might be convicting of sin or challenging to greater holiness?
I think we should remember the example of Phineas in Numbers chapter 25, and Mattathias in 1st Maccabees chapter 2, with one exception: don’t commit their acts of violence; just walk out and never return. The heretical priest isn’t worth a jail sentence. et God judge him.
If we walk out during the homily, do we still fulfill our Sunday obligation?
Biden and Catholic NGO’s….no wonder the Bishops didn’t hold Biden’s feet to the fire regarding receiving Holy Communion while promoting baby killings….$
Link to follow….
Perhaps it’s just a coincidence, but we learned just last week that the U.S. Catholic Church has paid out over $5 BILLION to settle the financial costs of the sex-abuse scandal, not including the millions of dollars they have spent in legal fees trying to defend themselves. This amounts to over $10 BILLION that our bishops have extracted from our pockets … and this BEFORE they appeal for more in Sunday collections!
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/there-are-2-9-billion-reasons-why-the-us-bishops-loved-biden-but-hate-trump/?utm_source=most_recent&utm_campaign=usa