Trump released a pre-recorded speech on the election. People who have thought that Trump will eventually concede and accept the election results simply do not understand Trump. If he cannot over turn the election results he will leave the White House but he will never accept an election defeat that he believes is the product of fraud. More importantly, half the nation agrees with him. This will have ramifications for this country for years to come.
Don, what’s your over/under on Barnes’ idea that Trump will be the next Andrew Jackson? (assuming we are ever allowed to elect a non-dem ever again)
There is a great deal of difference between Trump and Jackson, but they both started populist movements and were cordially hated by many at the time. (I confess that I would have been in the ranks of the opponents of Jackson, not due to his populism but due to his policies.) I predict that those who oppose Trump will rue the day that this election was stolen from him. Since Ike, second terms tend to be let downs for all presidents not named Reagan. If Trump wins in 2024, assuming he cannot get a second term in 2021, he will be in effect be a President with two first terms, which we haven’t seen since Grover Cleveland. Better for his opponents to have him do two consecutive terms, hoping for the usual let down of a second term.
If Trump can’t overcome the fraud now, why would anyone think he’ll be able to overcome it four years from now?
Because in American politics one trick doesn’t work twice. After the Democrats successfully turned Republican seats in the House in 2018 in California with ballot harvesting, the Republicans regained seats in California by out ballot harvesting the Democrats. In war and in politics you are always instructing your adversary. Next time every ballot counting center in blue cities are going to be surrounded by hordes of screaming Trump supporters watching everything like hawks. Any attempt to throw out Republican observers will be met by violence. Politics never exists in a vacuum and every reaction produces a counter reaction.
But why didn’t he do a better job of preparing for it? The legal team he had fighting the fraud has looked like a clown car circus so far.
The problem of looking forward to 2024 is Trump’s age. He will probably be too old.
Trump will be the same age Biden is now.
Trump has always had a problem with organization and surrounding himself with mediocrities and yes men. As for his age, I wouldn’t bet against Trump. He looks ten years younger than he is chronologically and he works men half his age into the ground.
Nepotism has been Trump’s Achilles heal. This is true. And many of his supporters have a cult like fawning over him. That makes me uncomfortable.
However, when Trump makes good picks they are stellar. For instance Kayleigh McEnany is the sharpest, toughest, and most prepared presidential press secretary I have ever seen.
I’d join the America First Party in an instant! I was there during the Tea Party movement, when we propelled the republican establishment to majorities in both the Senate and the House. And I’ve constantly been disappointed with their decisions around funding the government, it was as if the democrats were in charge. And when Trump won the White House … poof nothing happened. Both went with the charade in investigating “Russian Collusion” based off of false evidence and flimsy dossier.
America First!
Donald
In addition to surrounding himself with mediocrities and yes men; I would also add that Trump does not seem to have a sharp instinct to identify the untrustworthy. He has surrounded himself and taken very bad advice from many who seem to have a desire to passively or actively undermine his presidency. Many of those who have done the most harm have had questionable histories and should have been rejected with an adequate vetting process.
“The problem of looking forward to 2024 is Trump’s age. He will probably be too old.”
John F. Kennedy
“Trump will be the same age Biden is now.”
Greg Mockeridge
Yeah. Too Old.
Next time every ballot counting center in blue cities are going to be surrounded by hordes of screaming Trump supporters watching everything like hawks. Any attempt to throw out Republican observers will be met by violence.
I doubt that very much.
A better plan would be to push for election reform that requires counties to report in the order of most populous to least populous, no totals reported until all the votes in that county are tabulated.
Captain Thai Tea,
I’m more likely to join the “Throw ALL the Bstrds Out!” Party myself.
We are in the midst of a government takeover by Communist subversives. Trump should consider declaring a national emergency and only leave office if it can be shown that he was legitimately defeated in November. Trump would stay as President as long as it took to sort out the election.
A better plan would be to push for election reform that requires counties to report in the order of most populous to least populous, no totals reported until all the votes in that county are tabulated.
Not a bad idea, but cheaters will not stop without severe consequences. Back in Bush v. Gore in Florida, Democrat canvassers in Miami-Dade attempted to go behind closed doors and Republicans would have none of it, smashing open closed doors and exchanging punches with Democrats. The Democrat canvassers then decided, son of a gun, everything better be done out in the open after all. One of the truisms in politics is that if you can’t make your adversary see the light, you must make him feel the heat.
Donald
In addition to surrounding himself with mediocrities and yes men; I would also add that Trump does not seem to have a sharp instinct to identify the untrustworthy. He has surrounded himself and taken very bad advice from many who seem to have a desire to passively or actively undermine his presidency. Many of those who have done the most harm have had questionable histories and should have been rejected with an adequate vetting process.
Agreed. This is not a flaw of Trump alone of course. Grant and Harding made the same mistake of misplaced trust. Trump has always needed a good chief of staff, but his personality bridles at any attempt to direct him. Trump’s strengths also tend to be his weaknesses, depending upon the situation.
However, when Trump makes good picks they are stellar. For instance Kayleigh McEnany is the sharpest, toughest, and most prepared presidential press secretary I have ever seen.
She is a gem Greg. I predict we will be hearing a lot more from that young lady over the years.
A colleague of made the remark that the Democrats have “Obi-Wan”-ed Trump: “If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.”
He already had global connections. Now he has four years’ worth of networking that only the White House can give. Unrestrained by the manacles of political office, it is to wonder what he’ll do if turned out. The carnage could be immeasurable.
Heck, maybe he’ll own CNN in a couple of years.
Perhaps The most damaging advice to Trump has been from McConnell regarding the backing of senate candidates. An example with some details is the senate election in Alabama to fill the seat vacated by Sessions after his appointment to attorney general.
In Alabama Luther Strange was viewed by voters as a lobbyist turned politician who was appointed to Sessions’s seat in a shady deal by a corrupt governor on his way to jail. But Strange was McConnell’s pick and Trump’s endorsement of Strange was quickly secured.
In my opinion the best candidate for Session’s seat was Mo Brooks; but McConnell’s Senate Election organization, the Club for Growth, and the Chamber of Commerce viciously attacked Brooks and falsely accused Him of being a never Trumper. The truth was that Brooks was for Cruze until defeated by Trump, then Brooks was all in for Trump. Strange on the other hand was never on the record supporting Trump.
After the vote split 3 ways, Brooks was eliminated and the contest was between Strange and Roy Moore. All of the Brooks supporters went to Moore, I think because of the viciousness and obviously false attacks against Brooks. The establishment money then shifted to attack Moore and this time even the NRA went against Moore, which is why he waived his handgun at rallies. Despite everything thrown against Moore, even a Trump rally in Huntsville supporting Strange, Moore decisively defeated Strange.
After defeating Strange, Moore received no support from the establishment party; but money poured in for Jones from out of the state (especially from Soros linked groups). Then the false accusations against Moore began and even though all were quickly proven as false, even with admissions of forgery, no one was held accountable. Much of the Nation turned on Moore, even the Alabama Republican Senator Shelby refused to endorse Moore. Trump endorsed Moore and had a rally in Pensacola Florida but would not travel to Alabama to support Moore in person like he did for Strange. Steve Bannon was a strong supporter of Moore and campaigned tirelessly for him, but had fallen out of favor and influence with the Trump Administration.
Despite all that was against him, during the election Moore had a strong lead in Alabama; until Jefferson County (Birmingham) delayed its reporting until all the other counties has reported, Jefferson County then reported just enough votes to reverse Moore’s lead and win the election for Jones.
Today one of Trump’s strongest supporter in the House has been Mo Brooks who is aggressively contesting the election fraud. Likewise Moore was a strong supporter and is not one to back down in a political fight. Following McConnell’s advice led to Doug Jones being fraudulently elected into one of the most red states in the nation. With razor thin margins to confirm justices and avoid impeachment either Brooks or Moore would have been in the political fight and guaranteed supporting votes. The Roy Moore Jones election could have also been an opportunity for Trump to expose the hypocrisy of the Establishment Republican Party, expose fraudulent accusations for political gain and overturn a fraudulent election that seems to have been a smaller scale model for the methods used to steal a national election.
“Any attempt to throw out ballot observers will be met by violence..”
I thought even in advance of November 3 that the Republicans should have private armed off-duty police officers from other jurisdictions than Wayne County, The 5 PA counties, etc., accompany them (and if no other jurisdiction police will company them, I know a lot of former Army Rangers and Navy Seals that would and would not take any horse droppings for an answer ) and if the Democrat party bosses tried to prevent them from entering, just push their way in. Like Richard Baris says, “Would AntiFa have politely stopped at the door if they were told not to go in?” An election is being stolen, a capital crime to the state, and you better be ready for a serious resistance.
I have stood aghast at the relative paralysis of the Republican Party’s reaction to this election. It’s as if we were standing in the middle of Pearl Harbor and they are concerned about not getting to church on time. My brain screams FIGHT. DO SOMETHING. But no, we don’t want to be sore losers. Just wait until 1945, then we can make sure we have a spot in one of the better prison camps. I’m not a politico, just someone watching our beloved country get trashed by willful idiots. I think it’s time to break the glass and pull that handle, don’t you think?
I think we are waiting to see if the system really works.
In addition to surrounding himself with mediocrities and yes men;
Who?
It would be easier Art to designate people around him who aren’t mediocrities and yes men. His current press spokeswoman is competent at her job. Bar seems to be able as Attorney General. Betsy Devos has been a good Secretary of Education. That is about all that comes to mind as I take a brief break from the law mine grind.
It would be easier Art to designate people around him who aren’t mediocrities and yes men.
I would classify six of the 14 members of Trump’s cabinet as hackish – i.e. people who had connections to Republican politicians but not much in the way of accomplishment outside politics or things adjacent like lobbying. I’m not seeing it as a Trump signature as several of these people had posts in the W. Bush administration (and one is Mitch McConnell’s wife). There are 7 other cabinet rank officials. One is out of the Heritage Foundation and one out of the permanent government. Of the remainder, all but one I can see in a Bush administration (one, for example, is a Dole protege).
I don’t like this, but our Presidents do it. George Bush’s appointment of Michael D. Brown to run the civil defense apparat was just baffling. His father put Robert Strauss in the ambassador’s chair in Moscow.
Biden’s problem isn’t that he’s too old, it’s that he’s cognitively impaired, not to mention being a corrupt buffoon. Don’t know if Trump will slip into dotage within the next four years.
That being said, I’m not all that enthusiastic about Trump running again in 2024. I think he’ll render a greater service as a king maker. But then again, getting something wrong about Trump is easy to do.
Biden’s problem isn’t that he’s too old, it’s that he’s cognitively impaired, not to mention being a corrupt buffoon.
His problems are manifold: (1) deficit of ‘g’; (2) no talents compensating for a deficit of ‘g’; (3) unscrupulous in manner and degree that’s atypical among national politicians, with his family deeply implicated; (4) truncated occupational life outside of electoral politics and lines adjacent; (5) no experience as an executive; (6) senile cognitive impairment.
So if there was so much fraud, how did Republicans manage to do so well in House, Senate and state legislative elections?
Because those elections aren’t through a handful of incredibly corrupt cities, and because many of the fraudsters focused on the presidential election, rather than the rest.
Have you not heard about the piles of ballots where the only vote was for president, all Biden?
Because if you are going to do fraudulent ballots, it is much faster to vote in only one race. The suspiciously large number of Biden only votes in the contested states is an indicia of fraud. Also, if you are going to cheat, the Presidential election is the safest, as the ballots are rarely examined after the race, unlike in lower races where the risk of ballot examination after the election is statistically much greater. Since the nineteenth century the only challenges in Presidential races have been Florida in 2000 and the challenges this year.
John,
How are things in the post-truth universe?
The criminal enterprise known as the democrat Party’s limited numbers of lying thieves needed to sit down and fill in tens of thousands of fraudulent mail-in ballots. They don’t have time to fill in more dots that the dot for President.
Seriously, did the Democrats think real Americans were as dishonest and stupid as they?
War.