Symposium

 

I have been reading Plato for over a half century.  I do not read him like most people, I suspect.  His philosophy is a secondary consideration for me.  I read him as a part of my historical studies in the times in which he lived, a fascinating period in which the city state culture of Greece came to a calamitous dead end in the great Peloponnesian War  between Athens and Sparta, with the groundwork being unknowingly laid for Alexander the Great, the Diadochi and ultimately absorption by Rome of the territory, and the ideas, of Greece.  Greek of course was the main language of early Christianity, and most Christian theology is the hybrid result of the uneasy melding of Greek philosophy with Jewish revelation.  Much of what has occurred in Christianity since then have been mere footnotes on this great synthesis that we owe to Athens and Jerusalem.

Plato is difficult for most moderns, lacking as most do a decent education in either history or philosophy.  It helps however that Plato is a first class writer, which shines through in even banal translations, and most of his work is accessible to even the most ignorant who have a strong desire to learn.  (Certainly that was 13 year old me when I innocently first purchased a battered used copy of The Republic.)  I would recommend beginning with Plato’s Apology where he puts into his master Socrates an immortal defense of the life work of Socrates, at least as perceived by Plato.  (Whether Plato’s Socrates is true to the historical Socrates I regard as an open question.  Xenophon, military man and historian, who also studied under Socrates, paints a rather different picture of the stonecutter philosopher.)  For a good overview of Plato’s impact on Western history, I would recommend Arthur Herman’s recent and superb The Cave and the Light, which compares and contrasts the impact of the teachings of Plato and his pupil Aristotle down through the ages.

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Trebuchet
Trebuchet
Wednesday, November 18, AD 2020 5:06am

Unfortunately, if you mention Plato to most university students today, they think of one of Disney’s cartoon characters

Dale Price
Dale Price
Wednesday, November 18, AD 2020 10:18am

I confess to being fonder of his much later disciple, Plotinus. But Plato’s legacy is one that continues to echo throughout the world.

Foxfier
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Wednesday, November 18, AD 2020 10:29am

Desire alone isn’t enough– there have to be resources.

I managed to stumble across a frustrated college English professor who was teaching high school English, and his response to ignorance was to provide good resources.
Sure, some were things like Plato’s Cave in extremely summarized form– but part of knowing a thing very well, and being a good teacher, is being able to summarize a subject enough to be understood by the student to the point of them being ABLE to get more information.

One of the things that made me fall in love with Catholic.com (and Father Mitch!) is that they respond like a geek when someone wants to know something– “ooh, you don’t know this yet? YAY! Are you in for something neat!” backs up the dump truck of sources

Foxfier
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Thursday, November 19, AD 2020 9:40am

Sorry for the delay, I got distracted– in the “give people the resources to learn” category, there’s Hillsdale College’s free online classes.

I have their Philosophy one running right now, two episodes into Plato.
https://www.hillsdale.edu/educational-outreach/free-online-courses/

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