Go here to see Shea praising Robert E. Lee in 2008. Mark is a man of convictions. If you don’t like his convictions wait a while and they are sure to change as the Eternal Convert converts yet again.
Burn of the Day
- Donald R. McClarey
Donald R. McClarey
Cradle Catholic. Active in the pro-life movement since 1973. Father of three, one in Heaven, and happily married for 43 years. Small town lawyer and amateur historian. Former president of the board of directors of the local crisis pregnancy center for a decade.
Mark hasn’t blocked you yet?
He has now blocked me on twitter, as I knew he would. Had to point out his ever shifting views. Mark is of my vintage, so when he expressed his admiration for Lee he would have been fifty. To remake his views so radically after the half century mark is beyond odd.
To remake his views so radically after the half century mark is beyond odd.
What a dear cousin of mine said, “I was married to one man for 42 years and then this stranger appeared”.
Woke mind virus
I would pay money to see a debate between Mark, c. 2003 and Mark today. But I notice this is the Left: getting people to hate and destroy what they once cherished, and defend and support what they once condemned. I suppose if you can get people to do those things, you can get them to do anything.
We’re dealing with an obviously irrational man now, but I still have to wonder, in what dark recess of his mind is there any congruence whatsoever between “MAGA” and the Confederate battle flag? The notion is patently absurd.
Opinions can change when the information changes but they can also change when the zeitgeist changes. The Japanese call the latter “weather vanes”.
Apparently what pushback he got didn’t go unnoticed by him. He posted this as a response: “Post about the impossibility of reconciling the kingdom of God with support for the Confederacy and the Freak Show turns out in record numbers to say a) not all of us; b) besides the Confederacy is cool; c) stop calling me a racist; and d) I am proudly racist. Romans 2:24.”
Opinions can change when the information changes but they can also change when the zeitgeist changes. The Japanese call the latter “weather vanes”.
I don’t accuse Mark of that. I truly think Mark sincerely believes in what he spouts. More’s the pity.
Dave G:
I wonder how MS would respond to Dr. Samuel Johnson’s questioning of the legitimacy of our War of Independence because so many of the leaders were slaveowners. Johnson BTW gave us the nickname Columbia in an antislavery pamphlet.
Frank, remember that the Left’s response to an argument they can’t answer is to cry “racism!” and in their mind the Confederate flag has no other meaning. “We don’t like MAGA, therefore it’s racist, therefore it’s symbolized by the Confederate flag.” (Or the Nazis)
(And in case it’s not clear, no, I’m not agreeing with that line of reasoning)
Dr. Samuel Johnson’s questioning of the legitimacy of our War of Independence because so many of the leaders were slaveowners.
Johnson’s criticisms were risible as slavery was legal in the British Empire and would remain so until 1833.
Shea’s problem is that he has made the cardinal mistake of immanentizing the eschaton. He thinks that thinks that the Kingdom of God is brought about by eliminating evil from the world until the world has become a perfect place. But that is a false gospel. The kingdom of God is the church and nothing but the church; and its mission, given to it by Jesus himself, is to grow and nurture the church. Our obligation to the world is to get people out of it and into the church. We don’t have to try to create heaven on earth. Can’t be done anyway.
Don:
My point was to challenge Shea’s “angel/devil” manner of treating conflicts. Johnson BTW wrote against the British slave trade also.
“Shea’s problem is that he has made the cardinal mistake of immanentizing the eschaton.”
I can’t speak to that. I can say that Mark’s big problem as I see it is his unhinged hatred for anyone and anything he’s told by the Left to hate. That is never a good thing, though it goes a long way toward explaining what we witnessed at times in the last century.
Shea snapped during the Iraq War and the waterboarding. He freaked out at the Bush supporters and anyone who tried to, in his mind, justify waterboarding. Since then, he has gone further nuts.