As was long predicted, Congresswoman Liz Cheney lost the Republican primary for her Congressional seat by about thirty points. After January 6 Cheney decided that Trump and his followers were a mortal threat to the Republic and joined as one of two Republicans in the Democrat show trial farce hearings on January 6. I have a small amount of sympathy for Cheney as her stance has now cost her a Congressional seat, and it takes some courage to stand up at political cost for what one believes is right. However my sympathy is severely limited by the fact that Cheney simply dismissed out of hand the substantial signs that this was a stolen Presidential election. I find this also ironic, since but for the intervention of the US Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore in the 2000 election, the Democrats on the Florida Supreme Court would have stolen the election from Bush and her father. Cheney is a symbol of out of touch conservatives “leaders” who were quite willing to ignore the irregularities, and worse, of the 2020 Presidential election since it got rid of Orange Man Bad. One of the services that Trump has performed for the GOP is to make a high price now for the regularity with which some Congressional Republicans betray the voters who supported them.
Pro tip to losing Republican candidates: comparing yourself to Abraham Lincoln is almost always a sign that you are delusional:
BREAKING: Liz Cheney compares herself to Abraham Lincoln pic.twitter.com/nwiLOzf9Aq
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 17, 2022
Teton County, where she and her parents maintain vacation properties, favored her by a margin of 3 to 1. The rest of the state favored her opponent by a margin of 3 to 1. (About 5% of the population lives in Teton County, which is chock-a-block with the 2d homes of the abnormally wealthy).
In small part.. she gave “appearances” of courage on a Kangaroo court.
In large part her family hated/hates the former President and she thought she could pick up presumed ashes after January 6th to redirect the Republican Party. Maybe even eventually becoming Speaker. A political miscalculation for the ages, but then there’s always a spot on CNN.
it takes some courage to stand up at political cost for what one believes is right.*
A charitable assessment that I can’t share. Her course of action re: January 6th has been quite lucrative (and predictably so). I’m afraid we haven’t seen the last of Liz Cheney
Sorry, but I can’t get beyond the Iraqi blood covered hands of her warmonger father and his child-boss. There is a special place in Hell for both.
And..good riddance to you, Liz.
Iraqi blood covered hands
Blood spilled by Saddam who met his just fate.
“Blood spilled by Saddam……” No doubt, a bad man. Reckon he killed more civilians than the shock and awe of Bush and Cheney? I doubt it. Is our foreign policy to be to overthrow every dictator in the world and impose “democracy “? How’s that working out?
Reckon he killed more civilians than the shock and awe of Bush and Cheney?
Leaving aside his own people he butchered in the hundreds of thousands we have the body counts he amassed in the invasions of Iran and Kuwait. His stubborn refusal to comply with the terms of the truce that ended the Kuwait war lead directly to the Coalition invasion of 2003. The world would have been a much better place if Saddam had never come to power in Iraq.
Toppling all dictators is beyond our power. Removing those who constantly start regional wars and who make themselves a pain in our side, if exercised selectively, is a sound policy.
Liz had forgotten the necessities of political life, namely loyalty and judgement. She was rewarded accordingly by the voters.
“Blood spilled by Saddam……” No doubt, a bad man. Reckon he killed more civilians than the shock and awe of Bush and Cheney? I doubt it.
That tells anyone who is even slightly familiar with the situation that you are ignorant of the basic history in that area, and likely going off of known debunked activism.
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There was a rather creepy tweet by some movie producer that said that women would be alone when they voted, and he knew they’d “do the right thing.”
It was clear he was trying to imply women would only vote against Liz Cheney because the poor widdle dearies were just overwhelmed by toxic masculinity, but it came across that he was threatening women if they didn’t … well, obey his toxic masculinity.
Once upon a time, places like New Yorker magazine recognized Saddam’s attempted genocide of the “Marsh Arabs”– which we know these days as the Kurds.
https://www.thoughtco.com/top-crimes-of-saddam-hussein-1779933
The deaths from that attempted genocide, alone, outnumber the now debunked ‘excess mortality’ study from the Lancet.
The “now the real work begins” was quite the reveal, and reason enough to support her opponent.
It will be interesting to watch her morph into Bill Kristol over the next several months now that she doesn’t have to cater to her former constituents any more.
Countdown to CNN or MSNBC pundit position.
As I recall election denial started with Hillary Clinton and the Russian collusion hoax in the 2016 election. The 2020 “Summer of Love” rioters lawlessness and violence hardly got even so much as a wrist slap.
Isn’t Liz Cheney pro-life and has a voting history which reflects that? Would think it better to have someone like her onside even though she is anti-trump?
When do you think her book deal will be announced? The way these things work for those whom our Brahmin caste love, she will get a 7-figure deal for a book that won’t sell, ghost-written by some underpaid scrivener, and plugged every time she appears as a ‘political analyst’ on corporate media news.
That’s one way our betters reward those who have been useful.
She claimed to be “strongly” pro-life, sponsored some bills that when nowhere.
However, so is the gal that won to replace her:
https://www.hagemanforwyoming.com/post/harriet-hageman-statement-on-supreme-court-abortion-ruling
And she is notable for pointing out that Liz C. is so “pro life” that she didn’t even vote when it came up this year:
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2022/07/20/hageman-bouchard-blast-cheney-for-not-voting-on-abortion-legislation/
Ok Thanks Foxfier.
TDS is deadly…. very thankful I don’t have it.
yet deep in the minds (I know it’s a reach) of Democrats there must be a belief that Trump has to be guilty of something. “The walls are closing in..”, etc. Why else lash themselves to the ship in a bet to destroy the great White Whale that is Trump?
It could be too that any populous conservative movement must be smeared and crushed.
It’s likely both.
Translation, “Our family business [raping the American people for $$$trillions] is barreling toward a crisis . . .”
It’s been pointed out that over the last dozen years or so, the number of people casting ballots in the Democratic primary for U.S. Representative in Wyoming has bounced around 19,000. This year, the number was 7,000, suggesting that 12,000 Democratic voters registered as Republicans to vote for Lizard. She won 49,000 votes, so it’s a passable wager that 1/4 of her support was attributable to cross-over from partisan Democrats.
She claimed to be “strongly” pro-life, sponsored some bills that when nowhere.
Their behavior suggests what motivates the Cheneys is quite occult to the rest of us.
Here’s a puzzle. I can understand why for personal reasons John McCain was hostile to Trump. Mitt Romney and the Cheneys are quite hostile and quite explicit. Paul Ryan and the Bushes are more circumspect but also hostile. The Doles and the Quayles have not been hostile. What accounts for that?
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Dear Mr Foxfire: I am not sure I know what “debunked activism “ is. I am certainly not ignorant of the basic history of the area. You and I obviously have different interpretations of the facts. I expected blowback from my position, but I have a great deal of respect for writers in this blog, including you. We probably agree 90% of the time. No need to get personal and insult each other. Have a Blessed Day.
Nothing irks an elite more than a popular politician who holds the people, shows them to be fools, gets stuff done and isn’t part of the in-crowd. (Perhaps the Doles and Quayles were never part of the elite in-crowd.)
Foxfier, although I can’t recall it verbatim. IIRC, the Hag of Babylon once publicly whined that one reason she lost was that some women were intimidated by their husbands and boy friends into voting for Trump. If I could have, I would have gone out and voted against her again, just for the cleansing joy of it.
I think it is that Bob Dole and Dan Quayle were simply Republicans who wanted to serve as such and not run the party. Neither one were active in intraparty matters after they left public office.
A considerable amount of the griping about Trump from the Bushies, Mitt, etc. is that Trump is an interloper who has taken what is rightfully theirs.
Ezabelle-
glad to be of service.
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I literally linked to both the relevant history and stated the activism
“research.”
“The Doles and the Quayles have not been hostile. What accounts for that?”
Dole was a good hater and he had a large store of antipathy for the Democrat Party. Trump was the standard bearer for the GOP against the Democrats and that is all he needed to know. Quayle had moved on from politics long before 2016. Marilyn Quayle had never had much use for the Bush family.
Saddam Hussein protected the largest catholic community in the Middle East. With him gone the night members of this catholic community are either dead, in exile or slaves. Way to go George Bush , Cheney and the rest of the neoconservatives who wanted this war. And make no mistake,their goal was the big Enchilada for the neocons, war with Iran. Unfortunately they couldn’t handle either Iraq or Afghanistan.
Saddam Hussein protected the largest catholic community in the Middle East. With him gone the night members of this catholic community are either dead, in exile or slaves.
The country was a totalitarian hell hole. No one was protected. Since ISIL has been destroyed, I’m fascinated to know where you fancy they’re keeping slaves. Oh, and write and tell these people there are no Chaldeans left in Iraq
https://cnewa.org/chaldean-community-in-iraq-impacted-by-inflation/
Saddam Hussein protected the largest catholic community in the Middle East.
No, they were also victims of his tyranny. Do not be fooled by the fact that some of the butchers around him claimed to be Christians. That times have been very hard for Christians in Iraq is a function of their having the misfortune to live in an area dominated by Islam.
I’m fascinated to know where you fancy they’re keeping slaves.
Many were sold in Saudi Arabia. They took slaves for sex and profit.
That times have been very hard for Christians in Iraq is a function of their having the misfortune to live in an area dominated by Islam.
Sure, but they had homes and jobs and families and lives, all of which were taken away by the Islamic State. Just because things were bad under Hussein doesn’t mean they were tragically worse under Sunni terrorists.
… On topic: It seems Liz Cheney is a rejection denier
Lebanon had roughly a million Catholics in the ’90s. Maronite, mostly. Iraq’s Chaldeans (largest group) claimed less than half that many, in the 2000. Iraq was estimated to have “as many as” 1.5 million Christians in 2003. (In which case they still were far below Egypt and Lebanon in numbers.)
The claim for Iraq was that it was the oldest, as if “sure, he’s literally attempting genocide, runs rape rooms for his psychotic sons, and wipes out entire towns because they might not be doing what he wants, but gosh there’s some really old Catholic groups there” makes sense.
Might also want to see what that lovely fellow was up to with churches in the Anfal campaign.
This is simplifying the situation but- yes, the Christian population in Iraq are some of the oldest as are their Churches. Yes, Islam populations following Saddams removal, desecrated these Holy places. Yes many of Saddams closest confidents and members of cabinet were Christian. He trusted Christians. Many ex-pat Christian Iraqis supported him for this reason and because he was known to “protect” the Christian minority living amongst a Muslim majority- so it goes without saying they would do any corrupt thing to have him onside. The thing to remember is Saddam himself was a Sunni ruling a majority Shiite with an iron fist. Similar scenario to the current scenario in Syria with Bashar al-Assad- an Alawite (closer ties to the Shiites) who is ruling the majority Sunni Syrians with an iron fist. The whole region is very sad. Lebanon with the majority of Christians in ME is enduring a lot- with not much assistance with the most corrupt government on Gods earth.
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I think she lost in a landslide because of the way she showed herself in the Jan 6 hearing/program. I think for most people it was not about her dad or history… but. More about people who saw the heavy handed elitist operations against people who went to ask for election to be certified by States. Doubling down on injustice
That is what precipitated the avalanche
Sure, but they had homes and jobs and families and lives, all of which were taken away by the Islamic State. Just because things were bad under Hussein doesn’t mean they were tragically worse under Sunni terrorists.
ISIL came and went in three years. The Ba’ath Party abused the country for 35 years, and Arab revanchists for a better part of a decade prior to that.
Many were sold in Saudi Arabia.
Slavery was abolished by law in Saudi Arabia 60 years ago. When people talk about slavery on the Arabian peninsula, they mean abuse of migrant workers.
https://mondointernazionale.com/en/la-schiavit%C3%B9-moderna
I think she lost in a landslide because of the way she showed herself in the Jan 6 hearing/program. I think for most people it was not about her dad or history
If her father was an issue, she’d never have been elected in the first place. She’s a carpetbagger. The Wyoming electorate was willing to be lax about that. What they weren’t willing to be lax about was her acting as a cog in the Democratic Party’s egregious public relations stunts and propagating utter nonsense in the process. Her mother I think has been an asset in certain venues. She and her father and her abrasive sister and especially her rent-seeker husband are welcome to get out of public life.
is a function of their having the misfortune to live in an area dominated by Islam.
I think ‘ere recent decades a sort of modus vivendi prevailed between the Christian minority and Muslim rulers. The abuse of Copts in Egypt I think is of fairly recent origin. The Ba’athists weren’t notable for their nominal Islam, but for their totalitarian disregard of everything but their own will.
In the 60s or so– about when there were a lot of photos of ladies in the middle east in normal western clothing– there was a lot more tolerance for Christians.
When those mostly-kingdoms were overthrown for various People’s Party dictatorships, generally a series of them, things went bad.
Ditto a lot of “throwing off the colonialist oppressor” stuff resulted in Christian communities being once again targeted.
ISIL came and went in three years. The Ba’ath Party abused the country for 35 years, and Arab revanchists for a better part of a decade prior to that.
And throughout that 25 years Christians had homes and jobs and families and lives … After 3 years of the Islamic State the Christian population was decimated. Their property was stolen, they were chased into the mountains, women were raped, entire villages murdered and dumped into mass graves, sons crucified, wives and daughters sold into sex slavery … That alone demonstrates the point I was making: ISIL evil > Hussein evil
Slavery was abolished by law in Saudi Arabia 60 years ago. When people talk about slavery on the Arabian peninsula, they mean abuse of migrant workers.
Oh, well … if it’s illegal! {eyeroll}
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1817563/isis-is-trafficking-iraqi-yazidi-women-to-uk-ally-for-horrifying-auctions/
I guess their “migrant workers” have different job descriptions than ours.
I know you know how to do an internet search, Art … so go find a source you trust and stop pretending to be ignorant of the evil the Islamic State did in the Mosel Valley.
And throughout that 25 years Christians had homes and jobs and families and lives …
There are people in North Korea with jobs and families and lives as well.
There’s been a great deal of misery in Iraq since 1958 consequent to the country’s politics and a seven-digit death toll resulting therefrom, the vast bulk of it happening prior to 2003. Your idea is that none of it matters except the peculiar injuries done to one small subpopulation over 5% of that span of time.
I guess their “migrant workers” have different job descriptions than ours.I know you know how to do an internet search, Art … so go find a source you trust and stop pretending to be ignorant of the evil the Islamic State did in the Mosel Valley.
I’m not pretending to be ignorant. You’re not pretending either. You’re just obtuse.
And throughout that 25 years Christians had homes and jobs and families and lives …
Other than the ones that had pretty daughters.
Or pretty sons.
Probably helped if they weren’t too successful, as well, that’s opportunity for looting, there.
And making sure their community wasn’t suspected of opposing genocide.
Hm, apparently there’s quite a bit of debate about how big Iraq’s Christian population was, before the invasion.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-11669994
BBC says it was about a million, before the Gulf War, but by the Iraqi invasion it was about 800,000, and people largely immigrated away after that because they didn’t want their neighbors to think they were involved with the Americans.
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While the Sun says that those who provided the cellphone videos claimed the auctions were in Saudi Arabia, the known and well documented by escaped slaves auctions were in Mosul.
Starting in 2014.
ISIS was publishing that they were doing it, in their online magazine “Dabiq,” back in October of 2014.
You’re just obtuse
Not at all, I’m very clearly pointing out that your argument about ISIL not taking slaves was incorrect. It’s very obviously incorrect and I suspect you knew it was incorrect when you wrote it. Human trafficking is illegal in lots of places, yet it still happens. Slavery is illegal in Nigeria too, but Boko Haram kidnaps children for profit all the time. Some folks just like to argue I guess.
Not at all, I’m very clearly pointing out that your argument about ISIL not taking slaves was incorrect.
He didn’t say that ISIL didn’t take slaves. He pointed out that the Islamic State doesn’t exist anymore, thus they are not holding slaves.
You responded to that with:
Many were sold in Saudi Arabia.
To which he pointed out that Saudi Arabia doesn’t have slave markets.
Your evidence is a 2016 article from the Sun which is shocked at video, the source of which claimed showed a slave market in Saudi Arabia, showing that ISIS practiced slavery.
Even though they were publicly stating that they were doing so in 2014, and there’d been escaped slaves in various years since saying the markets were in ISIS strongholds. I believe it was the Guardian that published an interview with one of the escaped girls?
Not at all, I’m very clearly pointing out that your argument about ISIL not taking slaves was incorrect. It’s very obviously incorrect and I suspect you knew it was incorrect when you wrote it. Human trafficking is illegal in lots of places, yet it still happens. Slavery is illegal in Nigeria too, but Boko Haram kidnaps children for profit all the time. Some folks just like to argue I guess.
You did not offer any piece of information that would indicate there are Chaldean slaves in Saudi Arabia outside your imagination. The complaint about the Arabian peninsula for decades has concerned not chattel slaves but migrant workers, who are largely from South Asia.
Over a period of 60 years, different segments of the population were abused by bad actors at different times. In your mind, Saddam Hussein took no interest in the Christian population per se (they’re a small and politically impotent minority), so you fancy he ‘protected them’ and that this is the only salient datum for evaluating the last 60-odd years of Iraqi history. Somehow, you think that’s a demonstration of acuity on your part.