Reagan the Great

The only President I ever voted for.

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Robert
Robert
Monday, June 6, AD 2022 4:43am

And yet, Reagan legalized abortion in California, supported amnesty and gun control, and provided weapons to Al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Monday, June 6, AD 2022 5:13am

And yet, Reagan legalized abortion in California, supported amnesty and gun control, and provided weapons to Al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.

Please recall that only legislatures write laws. Executives commonly have a franchise to accede as passed or reject them.

Al Qaeda did not exist when Mr. Reagan was in office; the assistance to Iraq during those years consisted of agricultural credits. The initiative for the amnesty was in Congress and Reagan acceded to it as part of a package deal; the enforcement mechanisms of the deal were sabotaged by the lawfare wing of the Democratic Party in cahoots with the odious federal judiciary. No clue what sort of ‘gun control’ you fancy Reagan ‘supported’; there were only incremental adujstments to federal firearms law during his time in office. The abortion bill passed by the California legislature in 1967 (which Reagan signed) did allow more abortions in California than had the previous law, but narrowly interpreted did not allow one tenth of what Roe v. Wade allowed.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Monday, June 6, AD 2022 6:01am

The President’s physician subsequently said the president’s memory problems ca. 1987 were not distinguishable from normal aging. Maureen Reagan later said she saw nothing untoward until the middle of 1993. Edmund Morris later said there was a catastrophic loss of mental function during the period running from August of 1994 to February 1995. I wouldn’t attribute much to the Alzheimer’s ‘ere the point in time Maureen Reagan identified.

The Brady bill added some regulatory impediments to the purchase of a gun and provided for the assemblage of a database of offenders. Not sure about that particular law. The problem with federal intervention in such matters is that it often well exceeds the federal government’s proper book – in this case the shipping and carrying firearms across state lines, arranging for such, and vending firearms to travelers from out of state.

The more serious problem is that it’s all an exercise in wheel-spinning social scapegoating and look-squirrel diversions. Democrats have no interest in undertaking measures to suppress violent crime.

Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Monday, June 6, AD 2022 7:08am

As to the California abortion bill he signed while governor, Reagan knew the legislature had the votes to override his veto and signaled their intention to do so.

Pauli
Monday, June 6, AD 2022 10:20am

Still my fave.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Monday, June 6, AD 2022 2:54pm

The real issue is whether the USA can survive the fraudulency in DC.

But, I’m so old I remember when Ike was Pres.

From my untutored perspective, Reagan is the best – outcomes count – POTUS in my lifetime.

Trump’s first term, accidently on purpose torpedoed by the Wuhan flu and the six-month, 2020 flu d’etat, hits number two – again, outcomes count.

More of my untutored ‘take.’ Beijing Biden’s massive wrecking ball WH cabal and puppet masters make Carter and Obama look [on a 1 is best, 5 is worst scale] like 4-rated POTUS’s.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Monday, June 6, AD 2022 6:15pm

I think Carter was a well-intentioned but ill-advised man with indifferent judgment. He was surrounded by people of varying quality, but I doubt anyone consequential could be described as destructive or predatory. Not so today. I think Janet Yellen is about the only official of the administration you can name that might be somewhat public spirited. What C.S. Lewis said, “We laugh at honor, and are shocked to find traitors in our midst”.

Robert
Robert
Tuesday, June 7, AD 2022 3:54am

There’s no whitewashing Reagan’s support for Saddam’s war of aggression against Iran. If you’d take the time to put aside your knee-jerk support of American military power, you’d recognize that the U.S. provided Iraq with the intelligence and training it used to target Iranian civilians. Decades later, it’s hard to fault those people for wishing death to America.

Reagan supported the mujahideen. Its proxies ended up forming Al-Qaeda. A thousand pardons for getting the name wrong. And the fact that Reagan provided them with money and weaponry is surely irrelevant. Silly me!

Acceding to stupid and immoral ideas isn’t much different from supporting stupid and immoral ideas. If a legislative supermajority is hellbent on ramming through child sacrifice, you veto them. Otherwise, you’re nothing more than a rubber stamp. Same goes for amnesty.

Somehow, I forgot to mention the fact that Reagan put Sandra Day O’Connor and Anthony Kennedy on the Supreme Court. Another strike against him. Sure, he appointed Antonin Scalia, but the fact that George W. Bush gave us Alito doesn’t make him any less loathsome.

Robert
Robert
Tuesday, June 7, AD 2022 3:56am

You veto them anyway. Oops.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Tuesday, June 7, AD 2022 5:40am

, you’d recognize that the U.S. provided Iraq with the intelligence and training

We provided no training.

Decades later, it’s hard to fault those people for wishing death to America.

Palaeotrash are welcome to emigrate. And get your timeline right. The ‘death to America’ business had nothing to do with any dealings we had with Saddam during the period running from 1985 to 1988, but with the Ayatollah Khomeini’s menu of resentments, none of which were a function of anything our government did do or did not do.

CAG
CAG
Tuesday, June 7, AD 2022 6:02am

“none of which were a function of anything our government did do or did not do.”

Well, we did support the Shah, but that was before Reagan became President. And, as you say, it really had nothing to do with Saddam Hussein.
… If Robert thinks supplying arms to people who are fighting the folks shouting “death to America” is a bad thing, I don’t think I have any words that will convince him otherwise.

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