Saturday, April 20, AD 2024 1:30am

Grifter “Pro-lifers”

I was going to write on this subject but I see that my colleague and friend Paul Zummo at Letters From Cato has already done the heavy lifting:

 

So, anything happen while I have been gone?

I don’t have much to add on the substance of the leaked decision that may spell the end of Roe. Pro-lifers have had too many Lucy pulling the football away moments to feel comfortable until the decision is actually handed down. I will note that the talking point going around that conservatives/Republicans are focusing on the leak because they don’t want to defend the actual substance of the decision is preposterous. First of all, the leak itself is a huge news story, and it represents one of the worst breaches of trust in the history of SCOTUS. If the leaker is a clerk, he or she should be fired and possibly disbarred. If the leaker is a Justice, impeachment should not be off the table.

Second, many conservatives have been quite happy to laud the draft opinion. Personally, I refuse to read it until Dobbs is formally and officially decided, but those who have read it, at least among actual conservatives (more on that in a moment), have universally and unapologetically praised it.

What I would like to discuss are the erstwhile conservatives and Catholics who have either thrown cold water on the decision or else have actively derided it. I won’t even bring up the folks at the Grifter Project. Everyone already knows their principles are subject to being changed by the highest bidder, so I will go on ignoring them as every good and decent person should.

No, I would like to talk about the more “enlightened,” principled conservatives, especially those whose mission is to conserve conservatism. First of all, there is Evan McMullin.

Sorry, I have to pause here. Every time I see that name I am embarrassed all over again for having voted for him in 2016. It’s pretty bad when the protest vote against two despicable candidates winds up being the biggest grifter of the bunch. He is single-handedly responsible for ensuring I never vote third party again, and will instead leave the ballot blank when I dislike both candidates.

Anyway, the man who was about 60 million heartbeats away from the presidency penned this philosophical gem.

As a pro-life Utahn, I’m concerned that the never-ending tug-of-war over abortion laws threatens to create a public health crisis and further divide the nation without solving anything. My campaign is about forging a new way forward and building a new American consensus, even when it seems impossible and others refuse to try. If Roe v. Wade is overturned, some states will immediately enact extreme laws — such as total bans on abortion, onerous limits on birth control, and criminalization of women in desperate situations. I oppose these laws. I will advocate for sensible legislation that improves support for women, children and families, safeguards access to health care, and establishes reasonable standards that prevent extremists from doing harm

Everything written after “pro-life Utahn” proves he is anything but. Evidently this “pro-life” politico opposes laws that would actually restrict abortion. I am also unaware of any states currently thinking of limiting access to birth control or criminalizing “women in desperate situations,” but when your entire political philosophy was created in a lab run by Bill Kristol, I guess we shouldn’t be surprised when the end result is a political Frankenstein monster with an even less substantial brain than Mary Shelley’s original creation.

Speaking of the Gil Gunderson of the American right, Bill Kristol managed to kind of sort of criticize the leak, but not without demonstrating his “brilliant” understanding of how the Supreme Court works.

No one should break Court rules and leak draft opinions. But if we were setting it all up now, given the unique “public law” character of Court “opinions,” would it be ridiculous to allow drafts to be made public? Draft laws and regs are often improved by comments and criticism.

Evidently Kristol thinks Supreme Court caselaw is just like a Department of Transportation rule that’s open for comment in the Federal Register. Sure, the Supreme Court should just open 30-day comment periods and have the public offer critiques of their preliminary decisions – I can’t see how that possibly could go off the rails. The again, the public can offer comments to the Court – in advance of the case in these things known as amicus briefs.

Then there’s Jonathan Last, another writer at the Bulwark. Last was once a staunch pro-life advocate and author of books like What to Expect When No One’s Expecting. He was also a fierce critic of the Democrats and the shenanigans they pulled during the Kavanaugh hearings. Alas, Last’s current employers don’t want to hear anything that might in any way be critical of Democrats or espouse traditionally conservative views, so he managed to twist himself into a pretzel to write this hot take:

But there is a longer-term consequence that is starting to become very clear: For the first time since the days of Jim Crow, it is going to matter a lot what state you live in.

Oh, it gets better from there.

Both political parties are interested in controlling peoples’ lives. In many places, the Democrats, for instance, want to prevent you from using plastic grocery bags. Democrats forced restaurants to put the number of calories in a dish on restaurant menus. You may recall that in New York City Democrats even wanted to control the maximum size of a soda you could buy. Quelle horreur.

And the Republicans want to exert control over Americans’ lives, too. They want to be able to control the presidency on an ongoing basis with a minority of the popular vote. They want to impose their own rules on how voting may happen, how votes are counted, and even whether or not governmental bodies may choose to reject the results of vote counts. They want to control what the CEOs of private businesses may or may not say in public. They want to criminalize abortion.

So, you know, both sides I guess?

Yes, dear Jonathan, we all know the left is only interesting in controlling drink sizes. Otherwise, the woke left is absolutely for the maximization of individual liberty, as any Christian baker in Colorado would surely understand. Sure, leftist scolds want to eliminate from public discourse anyone who might disagree even a little with the current orthodoxy of transsexual issues, but Republicans want to, umm, set clear voting roles and mitigate voter fraud. Yeah, I mean, we’re on the edge of the Fourth Reich here.

Of course it that’s next-to-last sentence that rankles. They want to criminalize abortion? Until Center Enterprises, Inc. started dangling paychecks in front of him, so did Jonathan Last.

In the end, I will just let Isaac Schorr have the final word on Last.

If I were to play Last’s game and describe Democrats’ position as uncharitably as I could manage, I’d argue that Democrats also want to impose their own rules on how voting may happen, how votes are counted, and even whether governmental bodies may choose to reject the results of vote counts. They want to legalize late-term abortion across the country. They want teachers to preach the virtues of fringe theories about gender and race in the classroom.

Now I happen to think he’s quite talented, so it’s my assumption that Last knows that the arguments he’s making are poorly grounded and constructed but are nevertheless easy on his readership’s eyes. And if these are the sacrifices he believes he needs to make in order to keep them, I’d only remind him that there are ways to make a living that are much easier on the conscience.

Finally, there is Mark Shea. Frankly, I have tried to forget that Shea still writes, but out of morbid curiosity I just had to see what he wrote about all this, and unfortunately he didn’t fail to disappoint to disappoint.

if you are trying to think through the question of abortion, “Eucharistic coherence”, voting and all that, particularly in light of the possibility that SCOTUS is about to finally hand the “prolife” movement the pyrrhic victory of overturning Roe.

Shea calls the evident reversal of Roe a pyrrhic victory, but perhaps he is upset because it’s a victory he has assured us for decades was never coming because the GOP has been playing us. Now that two decades of doomcasting have been proven to be bogus, Shea wants to pretend it is utterly meaningless.

Go here to read the rest.  I have little to add other than the observation that we conservatives have too often been cursed with the best leaders and pundits that money can buy.  I would hasten to add that Shea is not in that category.  He lives in a world quite separate from the mundane world the rest of us inhabit and in that world deeply held convictions are not held for mercenary reasons but they do shift with regularity and are no less deeply held for being as stable as spilled jello.

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Paul Zummo
Admin
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 6:06am

Thanks Don. I almost feel bad for paying his Sheaness any mind, but it needed to be said. As for voting for McMullin, once again: mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

ken
ken
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 6:51am

Evan McMullin, “some states will immediately enact extreme laws”. I’m guessing he’s referring to abortions right up to the moment of live birth?

David WS
David WS
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 7:06am

As sickening as it is hear Democrats, (professed Catholics even..) insisting on abortion up until birth, sunlight is the best cure.

Nate Winchester
Nate Winchester
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 7:24am

I used to listen to the sub-beacon podcast back when it was called the sub-standard which was Sonny Bunch, Jonathan V Last and a third guy my mind is blanking on.

They were entertaining, but every once in awhile Sonny or Last would say something that set off alarm bells in my head that they were more conservative “in theory” than in principle or at their core. So this turn by JVL is disappointing, but not really surprising.

Father of Seven
Father of Seven
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 7:26am

Time and time again, reality proves there is no such thing as an actual moderate. They all are Leftists at heart. And like Leftists, the adherents also are mentally ill. In addition to narcissism, they suffer from some other sort of mental illness that causes them to think that the Left will now think one is open minded yet high minded (read: not racist or homophobic), while simultaneously giving a wink to conservatives as though we should now believe they really are with us. I mean, what could be more “moderate” than the leaked Dobbs opinion? It forces nothing. It merely gives all sides a vote. Yet, have you heard a single “moderate” make that point and say “Ah, that’s the middle ground sweet spot we’re always prattling on about”? Have you heard one of them say, “Pipe down Right and Left, it’s time for the Moderates to speak. We have a better path and this is it”? Of course not. In response to this leaked opinion, they all just sound like the little soulless Lefties they really are.

Paul Zummo
Admin
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 8:07am

“Jonathan Last is the most disappointing for me Paul.”

Ditto. Most of the other Bulwarkers and the entire Grifter Project group were people I couldn’t stand before Trump even came on the scene. Last was someone whom I respected. The book I linked to was a great read and very insightful. What he’s turned into is pretty sad to witness.

Dale Price
Dale Price
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 8:08am

Evan McMullin, “some states will immediately enact extreme laws”. I’m guessing he’s referring to abortions right up to the moment of live birth?

I thought the very same thing when I read that certified fraud.

Nah, of course not: the “pro-life” guy could not care less about that.

Lee has to win so this guy goes away forever. McM makes Charlie Crist look like a paragon of integrity.

Nate Winchester
Nate Winchester
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 8:20am

@Fo7 – It is still my theory that this is the consequence of unquestioned faith in the media – that they end up warping moderates to their side. Every “grifter” I watched close enough, started twisting when they went from constantly pushing against the media to accepting their word without question. (See: Jonah Goldberg) That’s what makes the bias so deadly. First they get you to swallow the little lies, then before you know it you’ve joined their side because that’s just how the world is.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 9:37am

Ditto. Most of the other Bulwarkers and the entire Grifter Project group were people I couldn’t stand before Trump even came on the scene.

I hadn’t heard of many of them. Of the current crew at The Bulwark, I knew of Sykes, Last, Kristol, Charen, and Young (and had seen the names of a couple of others). Sykes wrote a couple of valuable books a generation ago and Young was an interesting contrarian / libertarian who wrote for Reason. The other three struck me as nothing to object to; Kristol took an astonishing amount of abuse ca. 2003 courtesy palaeo types and the like. The Lincoln Project characters I’d heard of before it was formed were George Conway (only because of his cheesy campaign to embarrass his wife, a campaign in which he enlisted his oldest daughter) and Steven Schmidt (consequent to Robert Stacy McCain’s post-mortem of his conduct on John McCain’s campaign and that of Nicolle Wallace).

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 9:42am

Paul Zummo wrote a good essay.

GregB
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 9:48am

There is a lot of overlap between the grifters and the Never-Trumpers. Trump blew their cover.

Rudolph Harrier
Rudolph Harrier
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 10:11am

Trump already revealed a lot of the lies in the pro-life movement when he said that if abortions were made illegal, women who abort their children could be punished. This statement is a blatantly obvious fact if abortion really is going to be illegal. You can argue that mitigating factors should be considered, but we do that with all crimes, up to and including murder. To say that women should never be punished for seeking to kill their child is to say that it shouldn’t be a crime for them to kill their child.

But of course all the pro-life organizations said exactly this. They claimed that in every single case a woman seeking an abortion is a victim with no choice in the matter (despite the fact that in the vast majority of circumstances abortions are chosen purely for convenience.) This is like saying that a man who hires a hitman to kill his wife is a victim of the hitman, and only the hitman should be punished. It is absurd if you actually view abortion as murder, so it revealed what most of the pro-life movement really thinks.

Mike Petrik
Mike Petrik
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 3:25pm

“Shea calls the evident reversal of Roe a pyrrhic victory, but perhaps he is upset because it’s a victory he has assured us for decades was never coming because the GOP has been playing us.”
That “perhaps” proves Paul is a very generous soul.

Robert
Robert
Wednesday, May 11, AD 2022 8:48pm

The best argument against not punishing the woman is that it makes for poor optics. But if abortion is murder (and it absolutely is), then there’s no principled reason to not punish the mother. After all, she literally paid someone to kill her child.

I would argue that Steven Greydanus’ response to the Roe news is grifter-adjacent. Here it is: https://davidgriffey.blogspot.com/2022/05/deacon-greydanus-speaks-to-roe-leak.html.

Rudolph Harrier
Rudolph Harrier
Thursday, May 12, AD 2022 12:07am

There are two distinct positions:

1.) Women who procure abortions should be punished, but it is not politically expedient to do that before outlawing the procedure and focusing on the punishments of abortionists.

2.) It would be morally wrong to punish women who seek abortions.

1.) is consistent with pro-life aims. It is the same reasoning that leads to bans on abortions after 15 weeks, or after a heartbeat is detected, or when the baby is the product of a rape, etc. even though morally and legally the procedure should be banned in all cases. Such a total ban might not be possible initially, and some justice is better than no justice.

Position 2.) is not consistent with pro-life aims.

Rudolph Harrier
Rudolph Harrier
Thursday, May 12, AD 2022 12:09am

As for the likes of Shea probably some of the reaction is indeed due to pride. But another large component is that he needs it to be impossible for abortion to be outlawed or for the law to directly prevent abortions. As long as he can say that there is no legal path to ending abortion he can instead focus on arguing for pet leftist causes, but in the name of “ending the root causes of abortion.” If it turns out to be possible to end abortions directly, then his followers may start questioning Shea’s insistence on pushing leftist policies.

Robert
Robert
Thursday, May 12, AD 2022 12:27am

I don’t think we’re really disagreeing on much, gentlemen. Abortion is murder, and a woman who procures an abortion is responsible for murdering (and dismembering) her child. And if abortion is murder, then using force against an abortionist is justified. But the pro-life movement opposes prosecuting post-abortive women and aborting abortionists because it believes that poor optics will make it harder to end abortion. My point was that, putting optics aside, there’s no morally consistent reason to not prosecute somebody who kills her own child.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Thursday, May 12, AD 2022 2:56am

You can prosecute her. But she has already damned herself with a decision she can never reverse. And who knows what damage she caused to her body. Go after the abortion providers because they are the ones who are exploiting a person in crisis, in order to make money. That’s what it’s about. Abortion is an industry.

Paul Zummo
Admin
Thursday, May 12, AD 2022 5:58am

The argument about punishing women is adjacent to a question once posed to me by a high school teacher: if abortion is so morally wrong and entails the killing of many innocent children, then why isn’t it justified to bomb abortion clinics to stop abortions? At the time I was momentarily stumped, but there are many reasons doing so would be wrong – murder is wrong no matter the cause, you would kill bystanders, it would create a political backlash that would undermine your cause, etc.

It’s the same here. While I wish we were at a place where everyone agreed that abortion was an abominable crime, the grim reality is we are not. Efforts to punish the mother for procuring an abortion would no doubt undermine the pro-life cause.

It’s for similar reasons that another argument that I hear: you wouldn’t leave the legality of rape and murder up to the states as you are willing to do with abortion. Well, as a matter of fact, we do. It’s just that no state would ever legalize murder or rape because there is a near-unanimous consensus that these are crimes. It’s simply not so with abortion, like it or not. And as powerfully as we may feel that abortion is a crime on par with the worst crimes men can commit, we have to confront reality. I want abortion to be prohibited and will continue to work for laws that make it so. It’s an uphill climb in the state where I live, which just re-enforced its pro-abortion statutes over the governor’s veto. Until we get there, though, I am not about to push for provisions that would backfire and make our cause even less popular.

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Thursday, May 12, AD 2022 7:43am

“Until we get there, though, I am not about to push for provisions that would backfire and make our cause even less popular.”

I agree. My former spouse got an abortion at 10 weeks pregnant between our girl and boy because she wasn’t “ready” for another child. That event led inexorably to the subsequent demise of our marriage. I am not going to go through the litany of all my failures and sins, and no, I do NOT want the Church to change her teaching on divorce and re-marriage just because I messed up my life (a very long story). I hope that God in His mercy will forgive me of my sins. And I hope my ex-spouse will come to repentance. I do NOT wish her to be executed (or otherwise punished) for having murdered the baby. If anyone deserves to be executed (or otherwise punished), then it is I because I knew better (another long story that I am not going to discuss here). I especially do NOT wish her to go to hell (even though in my past anger I have said some very nasty things). Indeed, we all deserve to go to hell for our sins; that’s why Christ came and died on the Cross – so that we don’t have to punished in that way.

And that’s perhaps the point. Abortion itself must stop. And as a people we must repent, accept God’s forgiveness, and forgive each other.

PS, if you’re one of those rad-trads who wants to upbraid me because I have a screwed up life situation, then save your protests. I’m not interested in Pharisaical self-righteouness and false piety. Just pray that God can work out the situation to His glory despite my many errors. If you have never been through an abortion situation, then I don’t think you can empathically understand what has happened. This makes me simultaneously angry and sorrowful.

Foxfier
Admin
Thursday, May 12, AD 2022 7:50am

A further consideration is that not all killing is the same– someone who kills because they believe there is no other option is simply not the same as someone that freely chooses it, and someone who kills but didn’t know they were killing a person is, likewise, different.

Which is why pro-aborts hammer hard on 1) having a baby will destroy your life, 2) it’s not a person, it’s a clump of cells, and 3) execute women who had an abortion.
Nevermind that we don’t even execute freaking serial killers, they have to scream that or they won’t be able to hold on to even their low levels of support.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, May 12, AD 2022 8:39am

I’m with Robert on this question.

Rudolph Harrier
Rudolph Harrier
Thursday, May 12, AD 2022 10:09am

While I agree that prosecuting women who procure abortions is not the opening move (i.e. I do endorse “position 1” from my earlier comment) let’s not kid ourselves about the reasons that women get abortion. There have been several surveys on this, and even in the ones published by the pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute over 90% of women who got an abortion where definitely not in a situation where they believed there was no other option. The most common reason for having an abortion is simply not wanting to have a baby and often for reasons such as “I would rather spend time on other things,” “I already have enough children” or “if I had a baby, people would know I was sexually active.” Say what you will about whether these motives are sympathetic but they definitely do not indicate that the mother had no choice.

I don’t know how many women who get abortions knew that their baby was human and how many were misled by the propaganda. Certainly there are some ultra-woke who brag about calling their baby even though it was human, and certainly there are some women who have abortions who are later haunted by the realization that they took part in a murder. But I can’t find any study that’s asked this question of women who had an abortion in any systematic way.

Robert
Robert
Thursday, May 12, AD 2022 1:47pm

I stand by what I said. The sole reason to not prosecute post-abortive women has to do with optics. Otherwise, murder is murder, and a person who commissions a murder ought to bear at least some culpability for the death she causes.

And Paul, murder isn’t always wrong. Murdering children is always wrong. If a state were to legalize the killing of, say, five-year-old children, killing a child murderer wouldn’t be wrong, especially when the state refuses to prosecute him. Once again, the chief argument against aborting abortionists concerns optics. But as a philosophical matter, there is no way to reconcile the position that abortion is murder with the argument that attacking murderers is wrong. Killing a killer, particularly one who acts with the blessing of the law and who intends to kill other people, is (from an ethical standpoint) justifiable. (I should note that I oppose the death penalty.)

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