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No Wonder Melinda Didn’t Believe Him

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Art Deco
Thursday, September 23, AD 2021 5:13am

We live in an age where gross sexual transgression is considered perfectly unremarkable and the tendency to regard it as such is correlated with your position in social strata. Gates is a man of the plutocratic class who grew up in the professional-managerial class. He probably did not think anything of it, and if Epstein’s tastes had run to sodomizing young men just on one side or just on the other of the age of consent, we can wager that the court system and the media would not have made an issue of it.

It’s also a reasonable wager that Epstein’s business was a front. Who he actually worked for has not been revealed. A number of figures haven’t come clean, among the Acosta the U.S. Attorney, the chief of the Criminal Division at the Department of Justice at that time, the local prosecutors who let him skate, Kenneth Starr, and Alan Dershowitz. At the time the sketchy plea deal with Acosta’s office was concluded, the Attorney-General’s post was vacant and the chief of the Criminal Division was one Alice Fisher. She’s a partner in a BigLaw firm in Washington. Ever heard her name in connection with any of this?

And, of course, William Barr is complicit. This whole business is just silage.

Frank
Frank
Thursday, September 23, AD 2021 6:30am

Agree completely with Art. And Gates’ reaction is, to me, strongly reminiscent of the reaction of Cardinal Farrell, a McCarrick mentee, when he denied knowing anything about McK’s serial abuse of seminarians despite having roomed with the creature in D.C. for six years. Liars gonna lie.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Thursday, September 23, AD 2021 7:52am

Bill Gates is a creep. His wife must have known something, and yet kept quiet. I suspect the divorce was her way of distancing herself when more was revealed. I hope Prince Andrew faces the music with the latest sexually assault lawsuit filed against him but who knows how it will play out. He too has people protecting him.

Paul
Paul
Thursday, September 23, AD 2021 9:12am

Frank: re: Cardinal “Nighty, night baby” Farrell, did you mean to say he was a McCarrick mentee or manatee?

Art Deco
Thursday, September 23, AD 2021 9:44am

I hope Prince Andrew faces the music with the latest sexually assault lawsuit filed against him

She contends the two of them copulated in London, New York, and New Mexico and names the dates. Given that she does not allege forcible compulsion and she was over the age of consent in all three jurisdictions, I’m not sure what her cause of action. And, of course, it’s 20 years after the fact.

If Andrew did not copulate with her, he sure cooked up a mess of lame-o reasons to doubt her account. Either the man is stupid, or lives in an impenetrable psychological bubble, or the actual records of his schedule and the schedules of his security detail are discrediting.

SouthCoast
SouthCoast
Thursday, September 23, AD 2021 11:23am

Assuming he’s guilty, could Prince Andrew avoid prosecution in the U.S. by claiming diplomatic immunity as a member of the royal family? I remember hearing of such happening in Texas in the 70s when some Saudi princes training at a local AFB picked up, abused, and neatly beat to death a prostitute.They were kicked out of, and banned from, this country, but were otherwise unscathed..

Art Deco
Thursday, September 23, AD 2021 3:00pm

Assuming he’s guilty, could Prince Andrew avoid prosecution in the U.S. by claiming diplomatic immunity as a member of the royal family?

His time with her occurred in 1999 and 2000 by her account, so a prosecution would as a rule be time-barred. IIRC, Epstein owned property in New York, Florida, New Mexico and the Virgin Islands. Ghislaine Maxwell had a house in greater London. I believe the Virgin Islands is the only locus among these where the age of consent in 18; IIRC, her account did not include an encounter there. Being a 40 year old lecher is offensive, but it is not a criminal offense.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Thursday, September 23, AD 2021 4:12pm

Her lawsuit is that she was “compelled by express or implied threats by Epstein, [Ghislaine] Maxwell, and/or Prince Andrew to engage in sexual acts with Prince Andrew, and feared death or physical injury to herself or another and other repercussions for disobeying Epstein, Maxwell, and Prince Andrew due to their powerful connections, wealth and authority”. Her lawsuit also says she was a sex-trafficking victim and that Prince Andrew knew this and consequently has suffered “significant emotional and psychological distress and harm”. It’s more than just Prince Andrew being a 40 yr old lecher if as s as he claims she was being trafficked for sex…regardless if she was a minor at the time or not. But you’re right. She has to prove this happened 20years ago.

The other thing is she filed lawsuit in NYC because that’s one of the locations where she alleges it happened. However, I’m not fluent in law technicalities and on service, my understanding is he can claim (and has claimed) he wasn’t served the papers personally. Who in Prince Andrews inner circle is going to give anyone personal access to him so he can be served the papers? So basically he will ignore it, never visit the US, and carry on. Even though it’s this massive cloud which will forever hang over his head. Virginia Giuffre has guts.

Art Deco
Thursday, September 23, AD 2021 8:21pm

Her lawsuit is that she was “compelled by express or implied threats by Epstein, [Ghislaine] Maxwell, and/or Prince Andrew to engage in sexual acts with Prince Andrew, and feared death or physical injury to herself or another and other repercussions for disobeying Epstein, Maxwell, and Prince Andrew due to their powerful connections, wealth and authority”. Her lawsuit also says she was a sex-trafficking victim and that Prince Andrew knew this and consequently has suffered “significant emotional and psychological distress and harm”. It’s more than just Prince Andrew being a 40 yr old lecher if as s as he claims she was being trafficked for sex…regardless if she was a minor at the time or not. But you’re right. She has to prove this happened 20years ago

She was employed at one of Epstein’s residences in Florida while living with her family. (Her father professes to have had no clue what was up). She voluntarily got on airplanes and flew to various locations. She can make any ‘claim’ her attorney is willing to put on paper. That does not mean we’re all compelled to take it seriously. (While we’re at it, how often are civil suits allowed to proceed 20 years after the fact?).

Virginia Giuffre has guts.

More likely a degraded sense of personal agency, rather like Emma Sulkowicz.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Thursday, September 23, AD 2021 8:45pm

Don’t agree with you Art.

J. Ronald Parrish
Thursday, September 23, AD 2021 10:34pm

The Prince seems like a creep. That aside, there are good reasons for those things called Statutes of Limitations. Anyone with a filing fee can initiate a lawsuit. You’re a seventy five year old man who has grown wealthy. Some woman sues you claiming you raped her 50 years ago when she was 15. Under the law she must prove her case, but if you assume most people will not assume you’re guilty, you just fell off a turnip truck. Something to think about. Guess I’m lucky I don’t have to worry about the wealthy part.

Art Deco
Friday, September 24, AD 2021 6:03am

The Prince seems like a creep.

There’s nothing about the Prince’s surfaces which suggests that. The evidence in favor of the proposition would be that he was associated with Epstein and Maxwell and in the same room with Virginia Roberts at one point. Some of the self-exculpatory things he had to say were plausible enough and they’d be plausible enough if Gates said them. (And are plausible when Dershowitz says them). That you were a guest in someone’s house doesn’t mean you have any knowledge of his off stage activities. That someone’s a client of yours doesn’t implicate you in any activity outside the scope of your knowledge and outside the business relationship. The thing is, the Prince met with him in New York face-to-face after his conviction in Florida (and after his sentence had been imposed). Security camera photos of the two men walking in a New York City park and another photo taken of the front door of Epstein’s home which show the Prince in the doorway are in the public record. Andrew’s explanations for this are a facepalm moment. It was one of two facepalm moments in the bloody BBC interview and one can wager it was his responses to those two questions that induced his mother to sequester him.

The Prince’s domestic arrangements have for more than 25 years been quite odd. He and his wife separated in 1992 and had a civil divorce some years later. Neither has contracted a civil marriage with anyone else. They’ve shared a residence for quite some time and I’m not sure there was ever a time when they did not. I’d wager both of them have a dance card and each is on the other’s. Given how intrusive and unscrupulous the British press is vis a vis the Royal Family, it’s rather surprising that the names on those dance cards haven’t been published.

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