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Irish Troops in the Civil War

“God Bless the Irish Flag.”

Said by President Lincoln when he kissed one of the green banners of the Irish Brigade, as a salute to the courage of the men who fought beneath the banners.

 

 

Some 150,000 Catholic Irish Americans fought for the Union in the Civil War and some 40,000 Catholic Irish Americans fought for the Confederacy.  Those are the best numbers I can find, although I suspect the numbers are understated.  Whichever side they fought for, the Irish troops were noted for pugnacity in attack and a merry gallantry that other troops often remarked upon and envied. Many elite units were made up of Irish volunteers, the most notable being the Irish Brigade of the Army of the Potomac.

 

 

Their valor, and the ministrations of Catholic nuns serving as nurses to the wounded on both sides, helped to alleviate anti-Catholic sentiment in the country and hastened the admission of American Catholics into the American mainstream.

 

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Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Monday, May 10, AD 2021 8:24pm

In the movie Glory, I remember there was the character of that hard ass Irish Sergeant Major.

Don Beckett
Don Beckett
Monday, May 10, AD 2021 8:45pm

Consistent with G.K.Chesterton’s assessment of the Irish:
“The Celtic men of Ireland are the ones that God made mad;
For their wars are always merry, and their songs are always sad.”

Patrick59
Patrick59
Tuesday, May 11, AD 2021 6:27am

There is also the Irish born Confederate General Patrick Cleburne who saw the inevitable defeat of the South and proposed emancipating then arming slaves to fight for the South in exchange for land grants.

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/patrick-cleburnes-proposal-arm-slaves

CAM
CAM
Tuesday, May 11, AD 2021 10:40am

Gen. Robert E. Lee wrote a letter to the Confederate legislature suggesting that slaves be recruited; trained; paid wages; and treated no differently than other troops. The short sighted legislature would have none of it.

J. Ronald Parrish
Wednesday, May 12, AD 2021 1:31pm

In connection with the quote from General Cleburne, who before taking part in the ill advised attack on the Union lines at Franklin ordered by Hood which cost him his life stated to his men: “if we are to die let us die like men”, on the quoted occasion also opined: “Surrender means the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by northern school teachers; will learn from Northern schoolbooks their version of the war, will be impressed by all the influences history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as objects of derision. “
He was correct on both counts. A pity his advice did not prevail. He was a shopkeeper in Arkansas before the war.
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T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Wednesday, May 12, AD 2021 5:13pm

Coincidentally, I am re-reading Father Corby’s, “Memoirs of Chaplain Life.” He was Chaplain of the 63rd NY in the Irish Brigade for three years. Identical statues depicting his famous general absolution and patriotic words on 2 July 1863 stand on
the battlefield and at Notre Dame University.

My ancestor died at First Bull Run with the NY 69th before the Irish Brigade was formed.

Re: Fredericksburg. It was worse than that.

Also, coincidentally, nearly 40 years ago I was working in Knoxville, TN and would walk the neighborhoods on evenings. There were statues commemorating Union regiments that served in the area. Contrary to leftist morals none was defaced or covered with graffiti.

The war cost 600,000 lives and $6 billion, and transformed the Republic and its attitudes towardCatholics as citizens. The plots to free Eire never panned out.

J. Ronald Parrish
Wednesday, May 12, AD 2021 8:35pm

If you could make that 100 years, we would be in agreement. I can only attest to the textbooks from 1950 forward. The ones I read were hardly pro Confederate, though certainly more even handed than today. I appreciate your respectful treatment of a side which I perceive you would have fought against. We all have a common enemy at this time. May God grant each of us the courage to emulate the dedication of the common soldiers on each side of that tragic conflict.

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