What Is Really Going on in the Election

Pollster Richard Baris and Attorney and Election Expert Robert Barnes explain why the election fundamentals paint a completely different presidential election  picture from the polls.  Republicans have out registered the Democrats in new voters in the battleground states.  The Gallup Poll indicates that 56 percent of the voters believe they are better off now than they were four years ago, a question that is never wrong on predicting presidential elections.  Many polls indicate that most voters believe that their neighbors will vote for Trump and also believe there is a substantial hidden Trump vote.  Polls have a very hard time reaching white men without college degrees who live in rural areas, a key Trump constituency.  Many polls indicate that notwithstanding how they intend to vote, most voters believe that Trump will win.  I would add the lack of enthusiasm for Biden and the rampant enthusiasm for Trump.

 

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Dave G.
Dave G.
Monday, October 12, AD 2020 4:49pm

There are two differences I see this time over 2016. First, the Democrats will not allow Biden to make the same ‘tortoise and hare’ mistake that HIllary did. Already he and his team have come to the Buckeye State a million times more than HIllary did for the entire campaign. Second, we are seeing a tremendous amount of support here. Whereas in 2016 for every Hillary sign, there was probably a dozen Trump signs, now it’s about 2 or 3 Biden signs for every Trump. What that means I don’t know. But I don’t think Trump can count on the Democrats doing the ‘coast and be lazy’ strategy that Clinton took four years ago.

Dave G.
Dave G.
Monday, October 12, AD 2020 5:34pm

It could be an Ohio perspective. In light of Hillary’s famous ‘end the Coal Industry’ quote (that industry being heavily represented in Ohio’s SE quadrant, and a major buttress for the Democrats outside of the primary metropolitan areas), we were shocked at how little time or attention she gave to the state. In many ways, that was what tipped Ohio so heavily for Trump. Much of the rest of the state did what it often does in presidentials, but losing some of that blue collar rust belt vote cost her dearly. It was made worse by the almost complete shunning she seemed to give us. Compared to that, Biden has done far more. And we’ve seen far more support for him this time than we did Clinton in 2016. Whether that is the case around the country I don’t know. But here in Ohio, things aren’t what they were in at least those two cases.

Frank
Frank
Monday, October 12, AD 2020 8:01pm

For what it’s worth…the bride and I are just finishing up our lockdown-delayed summer sojourn in northwestern Illinois, where the cable company comes out of the Dubuque, Iowa area and the political ads are targeted to both Illinois and Iowa. Biden is running a LOT of TV ads here. I presume this means the Biden campaign believes they need Iowa, which tells me they are bordering on desperation over the rest of the upper Midwest. I also presume they are in no real danger of losing Illinois, a/k/a the State of Chicago Plus All Those Rural Rubes. But if their internals are telling them Illinois might be in play, this could be really interesting.

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Monday, October 12, AD 2020 9:44pm

I think the post from the other day about the state of the electoral map is fundamentally correct. So Biden has to more or less run the table to win, whereas Trump only needs to pick off a couple of small to medium states (or one big State –Pennsylvania) to win.

I don’t what, it anything signage tells us. I think I’m seeing more Biden signs than I saw Clinton signs for years ago, and about the same number of Trump signs. I believe the shy Trump voter thing is real (nobody’s going to vandalize your house for having a Biden sign –unless you do it yourself of course, but can Trump supporters say the same? I also think Biden is less off-putting than was Hillary, so there might be slightly more support for him than there was for Hillary … maybe. If that’s the case, the Democrats will see to it that there’s a fresh Covid outbreak every four years from now until they no longer need to bother with the appearance of elections.

The thing is, Trump had to run the table last time. And he did it. Biden could do the same this time

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Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Monday, October 12, AD 2020 9:45pm

this post

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Monday, October 12, AD 2020 9:48pm

The one entitled frontrunner.

Good grief, I’m done trying to make html work. Somebody fix the darn pneumatic tubes! I’ll send my links via pony express!

Michael Dowd
Michael Dowd
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 12:58am

Here are 7 predictions of how the election will end. Trump wins but confusion and anarchy prevail.
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/09/16/predictions-for-how-2020-comes-to-an-end/

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 2:06am

Thanks M.D. for the interesting link.
Draining the entire swamp is going to get messy. I agree with many of the authors predictions. Fraudulent ballots is a given. A colossal victory for Trump is possible because there is a huge difference between “woke” and engaged. I believe we have many quiet engaged patriots that will roar come election day. The silent majority love America and detest the marxists intimidation tactics. Despite the indoctrination centers and the brainwashing thereof, Trump will win.
Snowflakes will melt.
Biden will mumble his way into obscurity.

Nekofanatic
Nekofanatic
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 5:24am

I just drove halfway across the country and back, and I saw five times as many Trump stickers on cars, Trump Flags in houses, and Trump signs in yards compared to Biden. I saw public Trump support in MARYLAND and Northern Virginia of all places. Most of the Biden stuff I saw was in Illinois.

Heck, I saw more Tulsi Gabbard signage than I did for Biden on half that trip. Even had several people in town take down their Biden signs, and one is now flying a Trump flag…

Elaine Krewer
Admin
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 5:42am

“If their internals are telling them Illinois might be in play”
It’s possible – not likely but at least possible – if the evident lack of enthusiasm for Biden among Black and Hispanic voters depresses turnout among the usually reliable Dem voters in Chicago and the burbs. A Dem candidate who fails to get at least 80 percent of the vote in Cook County (e.g., Gov Pat Quinn in 2014) is in serious danger of losing a statewide race, particularly if GOP turnout downstate is high. I could see this happening… interestingly, the Tribune just ran a story about lack of support/interest in Biden among young Black voters in other large Midwest cities such as Detroit and Cleveland and how this could tilt those states to Trump. The unspoken/unwritten question is whether that could also apply to Chicago.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 6:08am

I’m not expecting the President to win, in part because people seem to be having perverse reactions to stimuli. I have a conversation over the phone with my sister. She’s been talking about leaving Seattle for years for personal-professional reasons. Well, here she is pushing 60 with a nasty chunk taken off the value of her house and this commonly florid woman has almost no visceral reaction and talks about horrid local pols as if they were amusing inhabitants of an ant farm. (The last time we spoke of it, she was loudly opinionated about the tech employees she blamed for making Seattle such an expensive place to live, but somehow the grossly irresponsible characters on the Seattle city council do not animate her at all). I have an ordinarily sensible cousin who blames the President reflexively for everything. You see, he’s ‘divisive’. (People who use the term ‘divisive’ usually deserve to be beaten with sharp objects). On top of that, we’re going to be seeing massive fraud with mail-in ballots (and massive lying about the massive fraud). It will extend to congressional races. On top of that, the Democratic Party is so lawless that even if Trump won, a Democratic Congress might refuse to certify his electoral votes. We really do not have the constitutional mechanisms in place to contain and adjust the coming conflicts.

What’s bizarre about all of this is that neither Trump nor the Republicans have offered anything but incremental policy adjustments and even egregious measures like Obergefell have been met with bland and complacent reactions by Republicans. We’re on the verge of civil war, and the reason is that elements of the professional-managerial class don’t get what they want 100% of the time and that’s driven them into a frenzy.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 6:30am

Yesterday, 56% of those polled said they are better off [despite the Dems’ China virus lock outs and concomitant, deep economic depression] now than four years ago [after eight horrid years of Obama/Biden].

Fact: since overdue re-openings were allowed, 10.5 million jobs were restored: more jobs than Obama/Biden added in eight horrid years.

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 10:05am

My gut feeling is that if Trump isn’t reelected by sunrise, Nov. 4, he won’t be.

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 10:49am

I could see that backfiring in a major way.

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 11:13am

1) The Left is going to do what the Left is going to do.
2) I doubt he has the authority to order the marshals to do that. Elections are a state thing, after all.
3) I wonder whether the marshal’s would obey an order like that.

CAM
CAM
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 3:48pm

Now the JCS GEN Milley has publically said he’s against the Cmd-in-Chief’s plan for troops withdrawal from Afghanistan. Second time he has publically stated what he shouldn’t have.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 4:03pm

Now the JCS GEN Milley has publically said he’s against the Cmd-in-Chief’s plan for troops withdrawal from Afghanistan. Second time he has publically stated what he shouldn’t have.

Where was that reported?

CAM
CAM
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 7:50pm

NY Times, CNN, Military Times, CBS, Washington Post, FOX News evening show.

Foxfier
Admin
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 8:01pm

Actual story is Trump said a bunch of guys “should” be home for Christmas, and the General reiterated that military decisions will be made by facts on the ground, not a time-table.

Which the Usual Suspects decided to spin into high drama, because heaven forbid that someone project based on current conditions and someone else remind the world that we’re not idiot robots.

Foxfier
Admin
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 8:12pm

We all know what would’ve happened if the General had said “yeah, innit great, things are going so well”– “zomga Trump leaks military plans on twitter!”

CAM
CAM
Tuesday, October 13, AD 2020 10:59pm

In an interview with NPR Gen. Milley pushed back on National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien’s comments on troop withdrawals from Afghanistan. Comments by both men as written in the press contradicted the President’s comments on that subject. With NOV 3 so close it’s important for the Administration to be on the same page. Best not to comment at all when it’s known that the press will skew facts or outright lie about Trump.

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