Stupid Catholics

Tuesday, October 11, AD 2016

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Well, that is how the people at the top of the Clinton campaign view us.  Matt Archbold at Creative Minority Report brings us the news:

So yeah, the Clinton campaign picked Tim Kaine as the vice presidential nominee but a recently leaked email displays the animus and disdain which the campaign views conservative Catholics.

WikiLeaks released an email chain that included Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, Clinton campaign communications director Jen Palmieri, and Center for American Progress fellow John Halpin.

Halpin wrote:

Ken Auletta’s latest piece on Murdoch in the New Yorker starts off with the aside that both Murdoch and Robert Thompson, managing editor of the WSJ, are raising their kids Catholic. Friggin’ Murdoch baptized his kids in Jordan where John the Baptist baptized Jesus.

Many of the most powerful elements of the conservative movement are all Catholic (many converts) from the SC and think tanks to the media and social groups.

Halpin also says of conservatism among Catholics:

It’s an amazing bastardization of the faith. They must be attracted to the systematic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of Christian democracy.

Palmieri reportedly said that Catholicism is “the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion” and adds “Their rich friends wouldn’t understand if they became evangelicals.”

Podesta then chimes in saying,

Excellent point. They can throw around “Thomistic” thought and “subsidiarity” and sound sophisticated because no one knows what the hell they’re talking about.

Yup. This is disgusting but it is how the Clinton campaign views Catholicism. And if you’re hoping the media will cover this in the way it deserves, think again. I’d bet it’ll hardly get a mention on MSM.

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16 Responses to Stupid Catholics

  • Any Catholic who votes for these pro-infanticide zealots is an idiot because the right to life is non-negotiable.

  • Thank you. Let me just say, at the risk of being accused of being a brown-nosing suck-up, that I really appreciate that you allow honest disagreement (in those few instances where we do in fact disagree) on The American Catholic.
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    A more, shall we say hirsute catholic blogger would have banned me by now!

  • What can Mrs. Clinton and her Democrat Party do to persuade our bishops to free themselves of their fascination with the Democrat Party and all her false promises? I don’t expect the bishops “Stupack-ified” seven years ago by President Obama to endorse Mr. Trump, but showing some leadership that doesn’t stand on sand would be helpful. There are only a few Sundays left before November 8 for each bishop to write a letter to be read at each Mass.

    Pope Pius XII’s encyclical Mit Brennender Sorge is now a prophetic letter to America. We are not yet in fundamental transformation! changed into the Germany of 1937 or even in the Germany of 1932. This country is, however, on course to such rotten destinations. I read paragraph 7 of Pope Pius XII’s encyclical and wonder if in this election year America has any candidates for President who are not pagans.

  • It is not too much of an overstatement to say that Catholics who vote for Hillary are same kind that voted for Hitler. Hillary and Hitler are both totalitarian and favor murder as a solution to societal problems. And the same can be said about many of our Catholic Bishops who go along to get along and who agree with the fatuous mercy of Pope Francis which is really a form of despair at people’s ability to repent and change their lives.

  • Well said, Michael Dowd. and I will add that Catholic voters, thanks to modern communication, if one can read and hear, know her anti-llfe philosophy and all round flawed politics and that of the Democratic Party platform. No excuses. At least when Hitler first came on the national scene of Germany few of the general populace knew how monstrous he was.
    These so-called Republican pols and pundits, if they cannot stand the man, they should still vote for the ticket because the Republican Party pro-life platform is all about saving America.
    “the fatuous mercy of Pope Francis which is really a form of despair at people’s ability to repent and change their lives”. So true.

  • Mr. McClarey,

    How about the latest round of info where John Podesta wonders out-loud how they may”revolutionize” the Catholic Church?

    The funniest bit is how often they use the phrase, “normal people,” throughout these e-mails as if they are indeed separated from us. Maybe on voting day we can grant them this wish?

  • A more, shall we say hirsute catholic blogger would have banned me by now!

    More often than not, banning is the last ditch effort of one losing the argument.

  • This email is much like the Trump tape – it doesn’t really tell us anything we didn’t already know about the Hildebeast and the Demon party. But the squishops will continue to support them because funding.

  • Here’s the link to the latest musing:

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6293

    “We created Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good to organize for a moment like this. But I think it lacks the leadership to do so now. Likewise Catholics United. Like most Spring movements, I think this one will have to be bottom up. I’ll discuss with Tara. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend is the other person to consult.”

    The above is from Mr.Podesta, I misattributed the musings of undermining the Church to him, when it was from a Sandy Newman- the above is his response to her.

  • Well, what do you think Todd Flowerday or the Vox Nova crew told themselves about their critics? What were they telling you?

  • By their comments that they were leftists first and Catholics fifth.

  • @Hmmmm. Thanks for the link. I found the comments by Sandy Newman to be very offensive.
    There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic church.
    I wish the Church was the Church of the middle ages, the good parts. She states her opinion on the Church and later admits…
    this idea may just reveal my total lack of understanding of the Catholic church
    I don’t understand it, but let me give my opinion on its positions and work to undermine it.
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    These evil doers have me steamed. Don’t mess with my Mother, Mother Church.

  • Why does anyone expect different from the Democrat Party? I’m not surprised.

  • By their comments that they were leftists first and Catholics fifth.

    I’ll offer my $0.02 here. Todd Flowerday is a veteran of discernment programs, once worked for the dregs of St. Bernard’s Seminary in Rochester (as well as the public radio station), and is a parish employee. I think a number of the Vox Nova crew have had tertiary schooling (even post-baccalaureate schooling) in theological topics and matters related. I think Michael Sean Winters was bounced out of a seminary program. Grant Gallicho, the man who insists that sodomy (what pre-Vat II manuals called the ‘sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance’) is just dandy and he has scads of homosexuals in his circle of friends, has long been an employee of a Catholic apostolate. Recall Amy Welborn’s characterization of the church-o-cracy and adjectent agencies: a sinkhole of bored-out-of-their-minds careerism. Recall also what’s happened to intellectual life in this country: broad swaths of it consist of corrupt practice, shizzy apologetical exercises, political patronage, and status games, status games, status games. Cheap careerists, other-directed, and deeply concerned with their status among a certain bourgeois set. The problem now besets the evangelical colleges as well (and see Religion News Service for what Vichy evangelicalism looks like).

  • All of the really “stupid” Catholics are in heaven, The Church Triumphant.

Catholicism As Hate Speech

Wednesday, May 27, AD 2015

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  • For the last 60 years, the Catholic Church leaders have abandoned the Catholic faith and adopted Protestantism, Modernism, Liberalism, Masonry, Marxism, and Progressivism as their theology, thus aiding and abetting the rise and proliferation of the culture of death. The death culture is simply the predominant view of most Americans, including many who claim to be Catholics. I will now call it the culture of Satan. It can be nothing else.The unholy trinity of Satan-contraception, abortion, and sodomy-are the three pillars of this death culture which is so passionate about destroying their souls, they use any and all means to discourage and prevent any light or truth to enter their minds. Their hearts are so hardened by the sexual impurity they embrace that there is no room left for Christ.

    We Catholics know that Christ told us that the world would hate us as it hated Him. That hatred has, and will, increase as the principalities and powers of evil take hold of more hearts.

    Are we prepared to die for our love of Christ? We had better be because we know not when He will return.

  • The politicians are busy demoralizing what’s left of the voting block to unbalance practical thinking about budgets, spending, waste, and incompetence which are also deep-seated.

  • The media Spin Factories will again be in full attack. I can’t wait to see the pig they’ll dress up for the banquet. (Hillary is Not a liar – Hillary didn’t know about Benghazi – Hillary’s e-mail set up at home was okay …you get the idea.)

    The Left, and the infested media outlets whom they swap diseases with, will have to be called out.

  • The “consistent ethic of life;” i.e., “the seamless garment,” was supposed to give us a Right-to-Life constitutional amendment. Instead it gave Bernardin’s “faithful Catholics” the right to remain in the pro-abortion Democratic Party voting for it, giving that party the electoral power to keep abortion-on-demand the law of the land, and that has brought about all these other attacks against God’s laws we are confronting today.

    Is it just a coincidence that those on the left in this life are going to find themselves on the left when Jesus returns? I don’t think so. Are jackasses in this life going to be goats in the next?

    I beg the bishops and clergy t0 take this seriously. They should apply their “consistent ethic of life” to looking at the Democratic Party – the party that fought a war to keep blacks in slavery, and after losing they created the KKK, then Jim Crow laws, then supported eugenics and birth control to keep the white race pure, then reinstated segregation in the White House under Woodrow Wilson and then in federal employment, and segregated food and bread lines under FDR; opposed all civil rights legislation in Congress with the Senate Leader Lyndon Johnson leading the way who did an about face as President when he introduced his “War of poverty” legislation and explained to a couple governors on Air Force One why he was pushing this legislation: “It’s simple” he said, “I’ll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years” (“Inside the White House” by Ronald Kessler, pg 33). The “War on Poverty” has cost $22,000,000,000,000 (twenty-two thousand billion dollars) [which the bishops support] and poverty is slightly higher as of last year than it was in 1964; and it has destroyed the black family which had fatherless homes back then at 30% which became 75% last year which is the reason the percentage of black males in prison is far greater than the percentage of blacks in the population. The party that supported legalizing abortion before Roe V. Wade, became it’s leading advocate and defender after Roe v. Wade. for the past 42 years, and now is the leader in legalizing same-sex “marriage.”

    How’s that, bishops, for “a consistent ethic of life?” Lay Catholics Democrats, you should know better than that. You don’t have to join another party; you just have to get out of the one you’re in and stop supporting it until it changes its position on those spiritual issues they have made political. Your salvation is at stake; and come judgment day upon his return – Jesus is not going to mess around with your excuses.

  • If you dance with the devil don’t complain when he feels you up.

  • I believe it was a Georgetown University professor in the early 1960’s who said something along the lines that though there were some other factors, the decline and fall of the Roman Empire was directly proportional to the rise in political power attained by women. Billary seems to be proving his statement to be accurate.

  • It would be nice if they didn’t get so much help from the “fiscal conservatives” that are nominally on our side.

  • HILLARY CLINTON OWNS OUR SOULS. Clinton looks strong and confident inculcating the masses with the propaganda that the human soul, our conscience and the gift of Faith is a structure of biases. Listen carefully and you will hear Hillary Clinton promise heaven on earth if you fund her with your “resources”, that is, your tax money. Hillary Clinton will take your tax money if you do not give her your tax money. If any sovereign person becomes Hillary Clinton’s constituent, while Clinton is in the White House, he may be sure that his sovereign personhood will be ignored, betrayed and sold to more powerful agenda without his permission. “Religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed, enforced and resourced to bring about Hillary’s hope for “our” future. If we fail, Hillary’s failure will be on us for not supporting her better, more and unflinchingly. A person has no choice but to fund and support Hillary and her campaign, Hillary’s unprincipled agenda is flawless.
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    After leading countless ignorant souls to perdition and hell, Hillary will become a death bed convert, joining the ranks of Josef Stalin and Adolph Hitler. When we get to heaven, we will have to deal with Hillary, Hitler and Stalin. Now, is a good time to start. It is heaven on earth.
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    Abraham Lincoln said that one person cannot own another person. If Hillary does not believe our Founding Fathers, who will Hillary believe?

  • James : “I believe it was a Georgetown University professor in the early 1960’s who said something along the lines that though there were some other factors, the decline and fall of the Roman Empire was directly proportional to the rise in political power attained by women. Billary seems to be proving his statement to be accurate.”
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    Hillary would. Prince and princesses are made of principles. Principles do not need gender. A principled woman is as great as a principled man. Hillary is as much a victim of her unprincipled, unethical, stinking breath demon, even as Hillary wishes and causes us to be victimized.

  • Jesus Christ is a sovereign person, a citizen of the whole world. Jesus Christ is the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth of God. To call the Word of God, the Revelation of God, Jesus Christ, a sovereign person, a citizen of the world, “Hatred” is criminalization of the Truth of God. A stinking, foul breathed demon has taken possession of our nation and its politicians. If any person embraces this stinking foul breath demon, he will be taken to hell.

  • As Catholics we need to remember that this nation (and no other nation) denies the truth that God has absolute authority over everything; every person whether they believe in Him or not, and every nation.

    Also recall that this nation (the U.S.) was not founded upon the Truth of God who is the Trinity but the philosophies and ideals of the Enlightenment (the darkness) and of Rousseau (spelling?), both antagonistic towards the Truth of God, man and his relationship (and right action) with God, found exclusively within the one Church instituted by Christ.

    Since the overwhelmingly majority of people in the U.S. (those on this website excluded, of course)do not believe God is the only authority over them and over the nation, the people He allows in roles of leadership and authority reflect this truth. Man cannot conduct himself properly unless he believes the Truth and makes every effort to live the Truth.

    The choices of the people in this nation, including those who pretend they are Catholic, have been to elevate Satan and themselves as god and thus they reap what they sow. Those of us living here in this time are no different than Catholics in the past who were subjected to the vile, sinful, greedy, immoral, soldiers of Satan. We are called to be the salt and Light of the world. That means sacrifice, prayer, reparation for our sins and the sins of the people everywhere, and ask God to give us the strength to persevere to the end of our days. All of you know this.

    Let us pray, pray, pray for each other and for all the lost souls.

  • Correction to my May 28th, 6:45pm post –

    I meant to say ALL nations deny the truth that God (the one, true God), has absolute authority over everything.

  • I explain to my Democrat acquaintances that Hillary is fanatic about abortion because her mother didn’t get one.

  • The “consistent ethic of life;” i.e., “the seamless garment,” was supposed to give us a Right-to-Life constitutional amendment. Instead it gave Bernardin’s “faithful Catholics” the right to remain in the pro-abortion Democratic Party voting for it, giving that party the electoral power to keep abortion-on-demand the law of the land, and that has brought about all these other attacks against God’s laws we are confronting today.
    Stilbelieve

    1. There is a seamless garment that fits Cthulhu.
     
    2. Don’t say “the right” when you mean “an excuse”. Words mean things.
     
    3. Yes, our bishops appear to have a lot to answer for. “The roads in hell are paved with the skulls of bishops.”–St. John Chrysostom
     
    4. Now is the time when the Church’s shepherds should be catechizing the flock about Christian morals, making the moral and practical cases against the Culture of Death, and teaching Christians that they have a duty to cast a vote that is both moral and informed. Waiting until the fall of 2016 to do these basic things is waiting until too late. By then partisanship will be running hot, the majority of people will have already made their choice of candidates, and the temptation to reject any hint of criticism of their candidate will be strongest. By waiting until the last months of the election season to teach and preach on issues at stake, the Church’s shepherds lead many of the faithful into temptation that could have been avoided. (See #3, above.)

  • Watch H. Clinton’s eyes in the video above. Scary. demonic?

  • @Anzlyne on Friday, May 29, A.D. 2015 at 9:56am
    Watch H. Clinton’s eyes in the video above. Scary. demonic?

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    My thinking exactly.
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    It is the enemy behind all this.

Rebels and Conformists

Monday, March 2, AD 2015

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Christopher Johnson, a non-Catholic who has taken up the cudgels so frequently for the Church that I have named him Defender of the Faith, brings us this story that highlights one of the problems that the Church has these days with precious snowflakes who think they are heroic rebels:

 

 

Northwestern University student Kathleen Ferraro was RAISED CATHOLIC!! and thinks that it’s extremely important for all of you people to understand that fact:

My name is Kathleen and I am a little Catholic schoolgirl. I wore a sweater vest and knee-highs and a skirt that could be no more than two inches above my knees. Rogue nuns wandered the halls of my high school. We “left room for Jesus” at school dances, all of which were supervised by a resident priest. I come from a devoutly Roman Catholic family from a primarily Catholic community largely dominated by Catholic institutions, schools, values and beliefs.

Yet young Katie doesn’t consider herself Catholic any more.

And yet against all odds, I don’t fit into Catholicism. My Catholic upbringing and education seemed the perfect formula for a perfect Catholic. Nonetheless, I’ve developed values and beliefs that significantly diverge from this foundation.

Gee.  Wonder what those might be.

Whenever I think about this question, I always resort to my list-making ways, crafting an inventory of the reasons that Catholicism has not worked for me. Old-fashioned values and traditions, hesitation towards accepting the LGBTQ community and inherent political undertones of church leadership leave me feeling conflicted and uneasy. I will never understand why dressing up in a modest J.Crew dress and sitting in the first pew at church trumps participating in a climate march, or why accepting doctrine on faith alone beats independent thinking, questioning and customizing one’s religious life. For me, religion has been more a culture of privilege than of prayer, a competition of piety rather than a humble quest of personal growth and spiritual connection. These are all examples from my experience with religion that motivate me to reject Catholicism, but as I think about it, are these also reasons that Catholicism rejects me?

No, because that’s just stupid.

I believe it is. Speaking only for the Catholic institutions I come from, I do not fit the prototype of what a Catholic is supposed to be–the by the book churchgoer who accepts Catholicism because that is what is true.

Ya think?!!

I am pro-choice, don’t go to church on Sundays, don’t put stock in the Bible or doctrine, challenge traditional ideas of religion and spirituality and care infinitely more about trying to be a kind, humble person than actively worshipping.

In other words, an Episcopalian.

On one hand, this rejection validates my personal beliefs and their deliberate divergence from Catholicism. On the other hand, this rejection leaves me unfulfilled. I find myself an outsider, subject to the Catholic exclusivity that ostracizes other divergent thinkers and doers: the very exclusivity that prompts me to reject Catholicism in the first place. Its a perplexing paradox – my beliefs exclude me and define me as an independent. And because my beliefs disqualify me from active participation, I am consequently excluded from a community that I want to engage with, though not necessarily be a part of. I would say “its not you, its me,” but I think “its not me, its you” is equally appropriate.

Told you.

I’m not saying that my beliefs are right,

You are so.

but I am saying that I want to be heard, not just listened to.

Every Anglican in the world knows that means that we keep yammering until the Roman Catholic Church realizes that it’s wrong and I’m right.

For me, this conversation is not about stylizing religion to suit the tastes of young adults;

HAW, HAW HAW, HAW, HAW, HAW, HAW, HAW, HAW, HAW!!

it’s about aligning all voices with the process of organized religion and earnestly engaging in different conceptualizations of faith.

Whatever that means.  Katie?  I’d like to tell you a little bit about my mom.

Over and over again, I’m amazed at what a visionary my mother was.  Mom was also RAISED CATHOLIC!! but had some sort of major conflict with the Catholic Church in the 40′s, the nature of which she never disclosed to any of us.

I suspect what it might have been but I don’t know for certain so I’m not going to speculate.  But to those of you whose parents are still with you, a word of warning; you find out quite a bit after they shuffle off this mortal coil.

Mom was always a little bit of a rebel.  She was born and raised in New York City and when she was in college at Adelphi, she vocally stood up for the Jews.  She’d married in the late 30′s, early 40′s, somewhere in there, and had a daughter shortly after that.  Her husband was killed during the war and after it, she was a single mom with a little girl to raise and she didn’t have any money coming in.

So Mom found herself a job.  In Montana.  She left New York City and never again entertained the idea of ever going back.

Anyway, Mom’s got this problem with the Roman Catholic Church.  Know what she did about it, Katie?

She left the Catholic Church and joined the Episcopalians.  My mom loved the Episcopal Church until the end of her life.  And as far as I know, she was the only one in her family who ever did anything like that.  Her brother, my Uncle Howard, remained Catholic until the end of his life.

Kid?  The Catholic Church is almost 2,000 years old; you’re not.  Your idea that the Catholic Church needs to conform itself to the bumper stickers beliefs of the Young PeopleTM is too absurd for any intelligent person to even begin to entertain.  So emulate my mother, grow a freaking spine and drop into one of Chicagoland’s many fine Episcopal parishes next Sunday.  You’ll be glad you did.

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  • Stated briefely, “I’m twenty-two years old and I know everything!”

  • Go where you can hear the gospel…proclaimed in it’s purity…

    …and where the sacraments are administered in accordance with that pure gospel.

    Good luck being able to find that.

  • “I find myself an outsider, subject to the Catholic exclusivity that ostracizes other divergent thinkers and doers:”
    I believe the faith teaches that heaven is an exclusive place, also.

    “Let’s hope and pray that she doesn’t continue with her self-absorption, and her unwillingness to serve (disguised as self-anointed intellegence and wisdom) that she may not spend eternity as a wilful “outsider”
    Lord help the minions of lapsed “Catholics” that are as confused as she.

  • “the State was essential in taking measures against the Church to largely eliminate her influence from society.”

    But we just now have heard from our “on high” communications director who supports the take over of the internet (in violation of subsidiarity) that it is the culture of death and perverted morality “government” that will insure our freedom of religion.
    That line ought to be on SNL.

  • Reminds me of an article I read once about a girl of similar age who grew up pro life then she read an article in the NYTimes and now she’s pro choice. It makes me wonder about her education. Did she engage in the arguments for the cause? Did she learn to have real sympathy for pro choicer and yet still have the courage to say why they are wrong? Probably not. She just didn’t think about it that much. Sounds like this girl’s “Catholicism” was largely about uniforms and school dance rules. I don’t know if I’d lay the blame at her parents or school, but somewhere she wasn’t taught our didn’t listen to the deeper truths of her faith. She’s not able to make a coherent rejection of her childhood faith. I feel bad for her.

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  • Note what’s missing: she never once mentions Jesus, except in the silly little anecdote about the school dances. The questions of whether she believes in Him, and whether the Church was founded by Him, and any thought of Grace or Redemption are completely incidental to the all-important issue of whether or not she feels ‘excluded.’

  • I was exactly that dumb at that age, too. I’m glad there was no Huffington Post back then to record it. And the fact that it was published in HuffPo should tell you everything about conformity: would a similar article about a fallen-away Methodist get the same national platform? There are millions of people leaving mainline Protestantism for Evangelicalism, because they want something stricter and more biblical – do they get articles in HuffPo?

    I did see something more depressing last week, an article in the Daily Beast written by a gay former Jesuit. Google “gay Jesuit daily beast” and, hey, you get what you deserve. The thing about the article was that it reflected the same depth of Catholic understanding as this 22-year-old undergrad. That was mortifying. Gay Jesuits don’t surprise me. I know too well how human beings act when they’re tempted. But the ignorance of what the Church teaches, that shocked me. There’s a way you can go through Catholicism and come out in disagreement with the Church, but for you to take the positions that this former priest was taking, you’d have to have never gone through the process of learning and growing in the Faith at all.

  • “I find myself an outsider, subject to the Catholic exclusivity that ostracizes other divergent thinkers and doers:”

    The notion she’s an outsider at Northwestern for an exposition like the one under review is worth one chuckle.

    She’s not able to make a coherent rejection of her childhood faith. I feel bad for her.
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    As Ava Gardner put it, “Deep down, I’m pretty superficial”. Or, Allan Bloom on the sort of students he’d met at the University of Chicago ca. 1987, “In a word, ‘nice’, which is to say that nothing that’s happened to them has particularly hardened them”.

    The results from investing 20 years in childrearing can be a wretched surprise at times (as both my mother and two or three of my great-grandparents might have told you). However, you look at this woman’s LinkedIn profile, and what you see is familiar. There’s the signal and the noise. I’d lay a low four figure wager that the parents are fairly well-to-do professional-managerial types and the signal was to assure your ‘future’. The rest dissolved into static.

  • When she faces her trial’s and disappointment’s she will be the one cursing her creator. That will be the extent of her “quest for spiritual connection.” How sweet.

  • And I have to give credit where credit is due:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/28/why-i-m-coming-out-as-a-christian.html

    This is the kind of article I was just saying wouldn’t be published. Good for them. The Daily Beast is a weird mess of a site, and I hate to admit that it’s on my once-a-day list, but I’m glad for this.

  • This young woman is an idiot. Perhaps it is not entirely her fault, as we don’t know all of the details of her upbringing. Nevertheless, she is an idiot, as she is an adult and is capable of discovering the truth, but would rather follow the crowd of idiotic young adults who get their news from Twitter, Jon Stewart, etc.

    I was naive at that age. I didn’t know a lot about my faith but I never abandoned it. Even in the 1980s I knew the media was filled with libtard brain dead slugs- as it is now – and they did not sway me.

    Piss-poor Catholic catechesis has driven away countless baptized Catholics. Other Catholics get a bug up their posteriors and blame the entire church for a bad priest, nun, etc. I have several relatives that fit into both of these examples.

  • Penguins Fan: “Nevertheless, she is an idiot, as she is an adult and is capable of discovering the truth, but would rather follow the crowd of idiotic young adults who get their news from Twitter, Jon Stewart, etc.”
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    From my own experience, I find that Jon Stewart and especially family members who ridicule, intimidate and consciously demean a religious perspective of life and demand that one abandons real love for God in order to become acceptable and in the “incrowd” inculcate a terror of being ostracized by them, like they are somebody to be feared, but they are cowards like the devil.
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    A person must make a GIANT embrace for one’s own freedom and conscious search for truth in the one’s self and the Catholic Church to reverse the fear instilled in the quiet of one’s heart to be who one must be, to pursue one’s Happiness and find one’s destiny; to answer one’s vocation to be(…or not to be.)
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    The Holy Spirit of God, the Third Person of the Holy Trinity responds to our plea for TRUTH and guidance. Nothing is lost except our own happiness if refuse to pray for grace.
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    One day, the woman will write a book with much joy and comedy about her spiritual search and conquest of the truth as truth is.

  • Mary De Voe corrects her omission: “Nothing is lost except our own happiness if one refuses to pray for grace. – See more at: http://the-american-catholic.com/2015/03/02/rebels-and-conformists/#comment-262018

  • “I find myself an outsider, subject to the Catholic exclusivity that ostracizes other divergent thinkers and doers:”
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    People are free to leave the church and when people leave the church, the church is always open to them as they have made a free will choice to reject eternal truth. If a persons holds the Church responsible for people’s leaving, than, it means that these people intended to impose their errors on the church. Heresy does not fulfill our vocation, destiny or happiness.

  • My flippant reply to flippant pro-choicers:

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    I’m pro-choice myself: Either choose to not have sex outside of marriage, or choose to live with the consequences.

  • “customizing one’s religious life” says it all. ALL.

  • I tend to pity folks like Miss. Ferrarro more than I blame them– I suspect she
    has no idea what the Catholic Church teaches or what it is she’s rejecting when
    she turns up her nose at her patrimony.
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    During my undergrad years I volunteered to teach CCD at my college parish–
    a very affluent, jaded, au courant parish run by an order of priests that
    has since become notorious for its dissidence. Think lots of National Catholic
    Reporters
    in the vestibule. I was aghast at the absolute bone ignorance of
    even the basics of Catholicism that these kids had– and these were kids whose
    parents had sent them to the parish’s elementary school, and were currently
    enrolled in the city’s “Catholic” high school. These were good kids, but they
    were utterly ignorant of the concept of the Real Presence, had never been taught
    about the mystery of the Holy Trinity, and had no idea who Jesus was.
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    At one point, I asked the class to raise their hands if they thought Jesus was
    a man, but not God. Half raised their hands. God, but not a man? That got
    most of the rest of the class. Both God and man? One kid raised his hand, out
    of a class of two dozen kids whose parents cared enough to send them to
    CCD. And these were kids who had been in the tender care of the parochial
    school system for close to 12 years.
    .
    I suspect that Miss Ferrarro is rejecting something she’s never actually been
    introduced to. And shame on us all for not passing on the Faith to kids like
    her. We’ve failed her.

  • The American Catholic Educational system turned out girls and guys like her in droves in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. It is only now changing. However, the biggest mystery to her piece is how she could reject something she knows nothing about. As stated above, “I’d lay a low four figure wager” that she couldn’t begin to discuss the scriptural basis for the real presence. That’s the “signal” most Catholic schools used to miss. Instead, kids like her just got the “noise”.

  • “Mary De Voe:” “…I find that Jon Stewart and especially family members who ridicule, intimidate and consciously demean a religious perspective of life and demand that one abandons real love for God in order to become acceptable and in the “incrowd” inculcate a terror of being ostracized by them, like they are somebody to be feared…”

    I would remind all that this evil only works, as the diabolical well knows, because that “terror” is but “pride” the foundation of most sin.
    Humble people, who know and live by God’s truth, are able to resist this–will they like me if I do/don’t–weapon. Catechesis and Sacramental Grace is the cure.

  • I believe the catholic school girl shtick appeals to her. She believes she was raised catholic, no doubt. If she was really raised catholic she would not have left. She is seeking fulfillment and just may find it in the revolutionary group working against the church.

  • I wonder about her (home-schooling.)
    Whay I mean is did her parents believe that buying her a dress and enrolling her in Catholic school was sufficient enough? My guess is yes. They participated as if dropping one off to soccer practice.

    If the parents are not engaged and living their lives in sanctifying grace then the development of any true spiritual life for her would be undermined. I’m not suggesting that this is the complete cause of her ignorance but that it certainly didn’t help her come to her conclusions.

    The most influential church is home.

  • ….say What..not whay…typo 🙁

  • RicK, Don Lord and Philip, my friend: Miss Ferraro sticks to the school girl shtick because it most brings her to the reality that she is a minor child spiritually. As a minor child who ought to have been given the Faith, she was disconnected by others, who, in their pride, laziness, ignorance and all the rest of the capital sins abandoned her soul to the Prince of Darkness. That darkness is terrifying. Looking around and seeing others just as terrified, three generations since Vatican II, lost souls, only confirms one’s terror. Lucifer, the great angel of light possesses the soul, leaving that person bereft of any Faith, Hope and therefore, not exercising their charity in handing on the Faith, the gift of life and love, the fourth generation of lost souls.

  • Bob Tanaka, You beat me to the punch. While extolling climate marches over attending Mass, the poor dear never mentioned praising and worshipping God or the saving graces of the sacraments. A brief synopsis of her attitude might be, “Me, My & I”.

  • . I was aghast at the absolute bone ignorance of
    even the basics of Catholicism that these kids had– and these were kids whose
    parents had sent them to the parish’s elementary school, and were currently
    enrolled in the city’s “Catholic” high school.

    And the horrible thing is, the folks who are responsible for teaching them might think they were teaching them.
    My mom was horrified when she found out that I’d never heard of the catechism before I was an adult– she assumed that we were actually being taught stuff at our CCD and similar classes, including youth group.
    And even that isn’t because she was willfully abandoning her responsibility to teach us– she was told all of her training was wrong because of Vatican II. She was teaching CCD to high school students, and told them sex outside of marriage was wrong in the hearing of the priest. Who then publicly chewed her out as hateful and ignorant, because it was fine if you “really loved” the other person. (She naturally quit teaching, because he’d know, and she’d hate to lead kids astray.)
    I’ve since found out there were shockingly horribly taught folks before that– ever have a theological argument with someone’s grandmother, and the agnostic is defending Catholic teaching from the lady who goes every week?– but without stuff like Jimmy Akin’s blog, I would probably not be Catholic, and would be as miserable as some of the other “raised Catholic” folks I know.
    It’s sad.

  • Foxfier.

    Your dear mom. Trying to do the right thing and hearing the great lie; “Vatican II states it differently.” The pigs who knowingly spread lies to promote their agenda’s will have to pay for their offenses. They may receive Gods mercy however they may have a very very very long wait in Purgatory prior to entrance into His Kingdom.

    Vatican II was certainly highjacked and misinterpreted to foster division and corrode the teachings of the Holy Church. To liberalize as a means to create freedom to sin without consequences.

    God bless your mom and others that ran into similar atrocities.

  • Do you think that catechesis worse now? I know it’s not ideal now, but I worry that we idealize the past. In the modern era of literacy and mass communication, the ignorance is less justifiable, sure. But there have always been places with no priests, or untrained and/or heretical priests. How deep was the understanding of the faith? My suspicion is that the peaks were higher and the valleys were lower – which calls to mind Rev 3:16: “So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth.”

Religious Cleansing in the Crimea

Sunday, March 30, AD 2014

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  • To be fair, there was one Russian czar who allowed the Jesuits to stay in his realm when, under the urging of certain French and Spanish royalty, the Society of Jesus was being suppressed.

    The Russian government, whoever runs it, hates the Catholic Church because –
    The Orthodox Church in Russia has almost always been under government control;
    The Catholic Church is something from the feared and hated West (e.g., Poland).

    I read a few news stories about the supposed decline of the Catholic Church in Poland. An unbelievably stupid 20-something was quoted as saying that she wanted Muslims to come to Poland to add to the cultural diversity and that she was an atheist who thought the Church has too much influence in Poland. This appears to be a much too common belief in Poland among those born after the fall of Communism.

    If nothing else, Putin has sounded a wake up call. The young people that thought they had nothing to gear from Russia will have to learn the hard way…and it wasn’t atheism or Muslims who kept Poland alive during the Partition or during Communism.

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  • The Orthodox see Eastern Catholics not as Catholics, but as Orthodox quislings. The Russian Orthodox see the creation of the Eastern Catholic Churches as a illegitimate union forced on Orthodox Christians by Catholic Poland and/or Austria as these nations expanded eastward in history. The most Catholic part of Ukraine in the West was part of Austria until WWI and part of Poland between the wars. Continued loyalty to the Catholic Church after the “Great Orthodox Nation” has driven these “foreigners” out is thought of not as a religious choice, but as loyalty to the foreign powers. Furthermore, WWII is still a sore spot as many Ukrainians sided with Hitler against Stalin. Let’s just say it is a very nasty history all around.

  • “The Orthodox see Eastern Catholics not as Catholics, but as Orthodox quislings.”

    Russian Orthodox have often been Russian first and Orthodox a very poor second, and it is traditional for the rulers of Russia to use the Russian Orthodox Church as an organ of state power, especially since “Russia” has always contained large minority groups not pleased at all to be ruled from Moscow or Saint Petersburg.

Are You, or Have You Ever Been, a Member of the Catholic Church?

Friday, February 7, AD 2014

UN in action

 

 

A guest post from commenter John By Any Other Name on the attack on the Vatican made by that expensive farce that goes by the name of the United Nations:

 

 

Yesterday, the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child issued a report, purportedly over the sexual abuse scandal involving the Catholic Church. Forget for a moment the average Catholic’s (need I qualify that with “non-dissenting”?…or “orthodox”?) bias in reading this report…and forget for a moment the facts of the scandal…that’s what most of the “top and bottom of the hour” reporting is focusing on…yet, this same UN report is attempting to get the Vatican to change its own doctrine and canon law.  How consonant this is with the current Administration’s chilling efforts related to the HHS contraception/abortifacient mandate as well (Sebellius and Little Sisters of the Poor) as the general trend of lawsuits related to the redefinition of marriage (Christian bakers and gay “marriage” wedding cakes).   Breitbart gives us the details: 

The Committee specifically told the Church “to review its position on abortion which places obvious risks on the life and health of pregnant girls and to amend Canon 1398 relating to abortion with a view to identifying circumstances under which access to abortion services can be permitted.”

 

The Committee lamented “the negative consequences of the Holy See’s position and practices of denying access to contraception, as well as to sexual and reproductive health and information.” The Committee directed the Church “to access the serious implications of its position on adolescents’ enjoyment of highest attainable standard of health and overcome all the barriers and taboos surrounding adolescent sexuality…”

The Committee is also displeased with the Church for not recognizing same-sex families: “The Committee recommends that the Holy See ensure that Canon Law provisions recognize the diversity of family settings and do not discriminate children (sic) based on the type of family they live in.”

The Committee also charged the Church with contributing to violence against homosexuals: “The Holy See’s past statements and declarations on homosexuality which contribute to the social stigmatization of and violence against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender adolescents and children raised by same-sex couples.”

For some analysis refuting the alleged purpose of the report, the sexual abuse scandal, here’s this at Crisis magazine:

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  • This is not about pedophile priests or child abuse or even abortion. This about subsuming the sovereignty of the Vatican and assuming the mantle of world government by the United Nations, if brute force may be called government.
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    Atheism on the march. The U.N. has eradicated every mention of God from their laws and by laws. The Declaration of Human Rights of the United Nations infers that man’s freedoms and human rights come from the “state”. As Thomas Jefferson said: “Rights the state gives the state can take away. The history of the United Nations is every bit totalitarian, demanding the power to tax American citizens, the authority to establish an International Court and the the means to raise and keep a standing army. The U.N. got the International Court, but the power to tax American workers and draft people from every country to maintain a standing army is denied.
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    Removing the sovereignty of the Vatican will enable the atheists to crush any resistance to their criminal world dominance. Before Bill Clinton left the White House, he gave the Statue of Liberty to the U.N.. American people rose up and demanded that the Statue of Liberty be kept in America to whom it is given. (Clinton also wrote Executive Orders that put all free lands and water ways under the express control of the chief executive. Hilary Clinton failed to get elected. The free lands and waterways belong to the free people of American see: Indwellers). Clinton wanted to become the next head of the U.N. It will not surprise me if Obama is head and chief of this strategy, paving the way for the powerful and hideous Planned Parenthood which has infiltrated the U.N. and through the U.N. education at our public schools. The world’s population will be decimated through the United Nations Population Control.
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    The Vatican is the only sovereignty who has the truth and will not back down from facing this bloody dragon.
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    The Vatican is the Sacred City-State of the Catholic Church and holds forth the power of freedom through TRUTH for all human beings in their image and likeness of our Creator, free will and intellect, immortality and the dignity of their humanity. The Real Presence of Jesus Christ.

  • The United nations has the power to drag the Vatican into its International Court as it has threatened to in the past. Using the above mentioned accusations and inciting to raise a mob mentality, one of Alinsky’s trademarks, the Vatican may well have to defend its status as a sovereign state among the nations of the world, using the principle of separation of church and state to defend its very existence as a sovereign state.
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    The above investigative reporting may well bring the United Nations into the International Court.

  • the declaration of human rights – deceit

  • I don’t see the UN as agnostic on the question of God, nor even a-theist, but it shows it self to be actively anti-God. The declaration of human rights is the weapon used by the UN to challenge the sovereignty of the Church over its own laws and articles of faith.
    Each signer of the declaration did so according to their own definition and understanding of what we have come to define as “natural” human rights. As we see today the meanings have been expanded and re-focused beyond what what meant all those years ago when the Church signed on. Perhaps there never really was agreement as to meaning, beyond just hope for a kinder gentler world.
    Mr. McClarey’s E. Burke would edify us on this if he were alive today

  • Anzlyne

    The Catholic philosopher, Jacques Maritain, who was one of the principle draughtsmen of the Universal Declaration of Human rights, explained his aspirations: “Thus it is that men possessing quite different, even opposite metaphysical or religious outlooks, can converge, not by virtue of any identity of doctrine, but by virtue of an analogical similitude in practical principles, toward the same practical conclusions, and can share in the same practical secular faith, provided that they similarly revere, perhaps for quite diverse reasons, truth and intelligence, human dignity, freedom, brotherly love, and the absolute value of moral good.” Plainly, that proviso has not been realised.

  • Great point Michael PS. And I do agree with Maritain’s express hope! As you say that understanding has not yet been realized
    I am guessing that worldly power sought through the UN is the big stumbling block to the heaven on earth outlined in that hopeful paragraph you quoted. The Truth gets lost in the scuffle for authority and consequently political social correctness reigns.

  • Explaining me: that phrase “heaven on earth” I didn’t mean actual heaven, but the sort of secular coexist of faith with good reason that he described. …Secular.
    I think he describes a hope, as JP2 did, that Faith and Reason could cooperate together in lifting us . But Faith and Reason- each in custody of human minds and human wills- are still arguing. I wonder if it will always be that way- per omnia saecula saeculorum

  • Michael PS has rightly pointed out the important role of the great Catholic philosopher Jacques Maritain in the philosophical establishing of the United Nations. His influence on such Catholics as Rene Cassin of France and Charles Malik of Lebanon who were among the actual writers of the Universal Declaration of the Rights of Man, the Magna Carta of the United Nations which now seems to have been put on a back shelf and replaced by the latest ideological issues put forward by the West.

    At the same time, post WWII, we had great thinkers/leaders in Europe, many of whom were Catholic intellectuals who were responsible for the foundations of the EU. Likewise in America Catholic leaders and thinkers were responsible for a great deal of the post WWII peace and prosperity of the country.

    It was really because of all these positive forces etc that the Fathers of the Second Vatican Council felt that they could really enter into substantial dialogue with ‘the Modern World’

    Yet by the late 60’s in the UN, in Europe and even in America, something happened-right across the board. I can say it as the beginning of post-modern age, however to describe it further is difficult. All that had been built up and on that solid foundation of “Christian Democracy” was shattered. Pope Paul VI, a great ‘disciple’ of Maritain perhaps symbolized this for us. When he began his ministry that world of Christian democracy was in place. By the end of his ministry, that world was shattered. His last days were spent anguishing over the fate of his own ‘student’ Aldo Moro, kidnapped by the radical leftist Red Guard and found executed in the trunk of a car. That period of real enlightenment was over.

  • Botolph

    René Cassin was Jewish and a great French jurist. Charles Malik was Lebanese and Greek Orthodox

    Pope Paul VI entertained high hopes for the United Nations, writing in his 1967 encyclical, Populorum Progressio, Such international collaboration among the nations of the world certainly calls for institutions that will promote, coordinate and direct it, until a new juridical order is firmly established and fully ratified. We give willing and wholehearted support to those public organizations that have already joined in promoting the development of nations, and We ardently hope that they will enjoy ever growing authority. As We told the United Nations General Assembly in New York: “Your vocation is to bring not just some peoples but all peoples together as brothers. . . Who can fail to see the need and importance of thus gradually coming to the establishment of a world authority capable of taking effective action on the juridical and political planes?” Few, I fancy, would be as sanguine today.

    As for the EU, you are right, its main architects were all Catholics and all, curiously enough, from marginal German-speaking areas: West German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer (Rhineland), French Prime Minister Robert Schumann (born in Luxembourg of parents from Lorraine) and Italian Prime Minister Alcide De Gasperi (Trentino Alto Adige). De Gasperi actually sat in the Vienna parliament pre-1914.

    Georges Pompidou (another Catholic) once said of Schumann that he wished his epitaph to be Renovator Imperii Romanorum (and who wouldn’t?)

  • Michael PS

    Thank you for the correction. Just shows that I have not been gifted with ‘infallibility’ lol I will have to scratch my sources on Cassin and Malik. At least I got the foundations of the EU right lol

    To the point however, your quote from Pope Paul VI’s Populorum Progressio reveals that at least at that time, the ‘end’ of that ‘golden age’ was not yet in his consciousness or that of the Church-yet. We will continue to seek dialogue, there seems to be no doubt about that, however, with whom is a major question, whether it be on the ecumenical front, ‘the world’, ‘the West’, “Islam”? [which grouping etc?] etc. In order to dialogue you need a partner who 1) believes there is at least a possibility of dialogue 2) that there is something-truth-logos-to dialogue about/and or discover 3)that the fruit of the dialogue is ‘light’, ‘clarification’, ‘reconciliation’, ‘truth’, ‘the good’

    While we, the Church, have not fundamentally changed, ‘the world’ etc certainly has.

  • MPS quotes Jacques Maritain,….. “Thus it is that men possessing quite different, even opposite metaphysical or religious outlooks, can converge, not by virtue of any identity of doctrine, but by virtue of an analogical similitude in practical principles, toward the same practical conclusions, and can share in the same practical secular faith, provided that they similarly revere, perhaps for quite diverse reasons, truth and intelligence, human dignity, freedom, brotherly love, and the absolute value of moral good.” Plainly, that proviso has not been realised.”
    .
    Can the referenced example of “Natura Pura” have a realistic hope of success now or at anytime in the future? The parties to the agreement are not united in Catholicism or even a belief in the supernatural.
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    Moreover He told us “My Kingdom is not of this world.” John 18:36

  • Slainte,

    I am not sure if you were only asking Michael PS but I will (also) respond if you don’t mind.

    Natura Pura is an intellectual construct. It does not exist in the real world. There is indeed ‘something’ called Natural Law by which even non-believers have a sense of what is right and wrong which is not up for grabs. My favorite example comes not from Thomas but from Augustine who wrote that even an adulterer knows adultery is wrong when it is committed against him etc-it is on that level, and is a necessary truth to be maintained as we attempt to dialogue with non-believers etc especially in attempting to build a just and good society.

    Over the years however, while maintaining faith in the existence of natural law, I have come to a more ‘Augustinian” view of things which sees mankind in a deep, dark existential ignorance which all but (by no means 100%) prevents people from seeing the truth expressed in natural law and in coming to know that God exists etc. I believe totally what the Church teaches on this. I am not Calvinist, Jansenist, or even Lutheran in this area. I do not believe mankind is depraved but it is greatly ‘screwed up’, broken, divided, compromised-whatever other term fits here-in radical (meaning the need goes right to our roots) need of salvation.
    In short without some amount of ‘grace’ no one will respond to natural law etc

    Did I answer your question?

  • Hi Botolph,
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    You did indeed answer my query; thank you. Botolph….Natural Law is completely ignored by many non-Catholic law schools in the U.S., and I am not certain whether it is even up for discussion in Catholic law schools. Very few lawyers have any clue what it is or even how to ascertain its principles to a certainty. The fact that it exists separately from Revelation makes it that much more challenging to discern.
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    I addressed my comment to MPS because he was very helpful in instructing me on the issue of “Natura Pura” and man’s desire for the supernatural. Phillip, MPS and others are engaged in an on-going discussion about Natura Pura, the Enlightenment, liberalism v. Catholicism over at
    “Brace Yourselves: The Dark Enlightenment is Upon Us”….please come over and join in.
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    I witnessed first hand man’s fallen nature last night when I blew a tire on a pothole in Manhattan and had to navigate across three lanes of traffic on Third Avenue…no one and I mean no one would give way. So I may be on my way to becoming an Augustinean as well! : )

  • Slainte,

    Thanks for the response. I will take a look at the other series on the Dark Enlightenment, etc.

    What I gave as a response was a synthesis of my faith, theology and years of experience lol While always loving Augustine I think I was very Thomistic in this area for years-very optomistic about things human etc [it came with Vatican II etc] but experience-both in the Church: seeing the knowing dissent of ‘the spirit of VII crowd’, even the disunity among mainline Catholics, and then of course the drastic changes in world society since the 60’s has brought me back to Augustine (Catholic version of him-there are other versions: i.e. Calvin, Jansen, Luther)

    I also came to a realization how many Thomists, such as Suarez-who influenced countless scholars etc are not faithful to Thomas-just one more nail in my optimism and naivete

    Glad it helped

  • Botolph,
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    FYI…I want you to be right. As much as I question the faith and continue to ruminate upon it, I want good people like you to keep defending it. I believe in Catholicism and Our Lord with every fibre of my being. And I am very grateful that you and others are here to respond to queries.
    .
    A few days ago I posted portions of Bishop Conley’s response to the Rolling Stone article and its cover on Pope Francis. I think Bishop Conley understands the faith in a way that might resonate with you.
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    Here is the repost.
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    “First Things” has just published a piece by Nebraska Bishop James Conley entitled “Our Pop Culture Moment” in response to Marc Binelli’s profile of Pope Francis in February’s “Rolling Stone” magazine. . Bishop Conley writes,
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    “….Binelli’s essay….was effective….The profile….re-crafted Francis’ public image in the annals of popular culture. He has become a rock star. But if we understand that…. we have a good chance of using the Church’s pop culture moment, instead of becoming its victim.”
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    “…..Rolling Stone and its collaborators are working to hijack the papacy of a loyal, though often unconventional, son of the Church.”
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    “The reason is simple. Sexual and social libertines have little interest in discrediting Christianity. They’re far more interested in refashioning it—in claiming Christ, and his vicar, as their supporters. The secularist social agenda is more palatable to impressionable young people if it complements, rather than competes with, the residual Christianity of their families. The enemy has no interest in eradicating Christianity if he can sublimate it to his own purposes.”
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    “The greatest trick of the devil isn’t convincing the world he doesn’t exist—it’s convincing the world that Jesus Christ is the champion of his causes.”
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    “Well-formed Catholics know that Pope Francis isn’t breaking new theological ground. His work on economics, for example, is in continuity with a point being made about justice since at least Leo XIII. His call for broader participation by laity, particularly women, was a point of great importance to Benedict XVI. And his expressions of charity and solidarity towards those afflicted with same-sex attraction is rooted in the Church’s best tradition. But the media has driven a wedge between Francis and his predecessors by focusing less on substance than method.”
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    “…..That’s why last week on the Church’s World Day for Communications, Pope Francis remarked that “if a choice has to be made between a bruised Church which goes out to the streets and a Church suffering from self-absorption, I certainly prefer the first. Those ‘streets’ are the world where people live and where they can be reached, both effectively and affectively.”
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    “The preference of the Holy Father, like the preference of Jesus Christ himself, is to engage the world, to run the risk that journalists like Binelli will write unfounded, agenda-driven profiles.”
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    “Why?”
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    “Because, as Pope Benedict XVI said in 2013, by “patiently and respectfully engaging their questions and their doubts as they advance in their search for the truth and the meaning of human existence,” we can introduce the world to Jesus Christ….”

    Source: http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2014/02/our-pop-culture-moment
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    Bishop James Conley is to be commended for his defense of Pope Francis. A certain late Archbishop of New York “Dagger John Hughes” would no doubt be proud of his brother Bishop from Nebraska.

  • Thanks Slainte

    I too agree with Bishop Conley. I would put it in a simpler way however—— Satan even quotes Scripture for his own purposes———–we don’t throw out or yell and scream about Scripture do we :-)?

  • Universal rights (independent of “civil” rights recognized by established government) are pendant universal good (God). if there is not agreement on what is good, who has authority to “declare” universal human rights?
    God reveals what is good, not what is current and politically correct but that which is and endures… in the book of nature, in the Scriptures and through the Church.. “natural” rights definition is of course the area that the anti-God organization feels free to mess with. The ex nihilo declaration goes beyond simply life liberty and pursuit of happiness and adds prescriptions and proscriptions for human behavior that are way beyond the moral authority of the UN. This challenge of the UN to the Church is
    unbelievable.

  • Hi Folks: Nothing the UN does is unbelievable to me. The UN is the absolute antithesis of Subsidiarity.

  • Botolph, Anzlyne, slainte, and Michael Paterson-Seymour.

    I am reading your very excellent conversation and the many threads to which I wish to respond. The one constant is this: Jesus said: “Love God with your whole heart, your whole mind, your whole strength and your neighbor as yourself.” The whole law and the prophets.
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    The Universal Declaration of Human Rights of the United Nations is an expression of the second part of the whole law and the prophets, the natural law the brotherly love law. As it became more separated from the whole law it became useless or useful only to overturn the whole law and the prophets.
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    The whole law and the prophets respects the transcendent part of man, the rational, immortal soul, acknowledges God our Creator, and acknowledges man need for God. Without acknowledging man’s need for God, the practice of religion, and freedom of religion, has become a point of ridicule, derision, and contempt.
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    God Himself has become a focus for blasphemy. These sins of human sacrifice and sodomy are aimed at inciting God to wrath. Satan tells souls that they need to do this or that knowing full well that death will consume the sinner.
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    The United Nations has plagiarized the law of God and violated the copyright which is made to protect the original script.
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    “I don’t see the UN as agnostic on the question of God, nor even a-theist, but it shows it self to be actively anti-God. The declaration of human rights is the weapon used by the UN to challenge the sovereignty of the Church over its own laws and articles of faith.”
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    In my opinion, the U.N. is neither agnostic nor atheist. The U.N. is anti-God. The U.N. despises God and uses man’s atheism, agnosticism and ignorance as a cudgel to increase its power. Like Saul Alinsky, the U.N. is using man’s fallen nature to subdue man.
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    “The declaration of human rights is the weapon used by the UN to challenge the sovereignty of the Church over its own laws and articles of faith.”
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    Separation of church and state as expressed by John Henry Cardinal Newman is the screen through which this U.N. challenge must be seen. The Declaration of Human Rights can have no effect over the Church. The Catholic Church’s reply to this challenge, actually accusation is simply: “Child abusers and those who protected them are going to hell.” Can the U.N. provide a better penalty? I think not.

  • “Like Saul Alinsky, the U.N. is using man’s fallen nature to subdue man.” True.

    and that also seems to be the tactic of the day from our president-

  • This is sobering.

    We walk around every day living our lives in pretty much complete ignorance to the very real and possible aftereffects of current events. The world is not a world of peace and it hates us. We will NOT be allowed to live in dissent to the culture and our God-given rights will not be respect. Now is the time to stand up or else we will be locked down.

  • US out of the UN. Now.

  • Anzlyne: “if there is not agreement on what is good, who has authority to “declare” universal human rights? ”
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    “WHO is like unto God?”
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    I read your comment yesterday. It did not sink in until this morning. Your statement sums up the entire situation. The U.N. is usurping the Supreme Sovereign Being’s authentic authority. The U.N. can only be described as a fraud. Having embraced fraudulent marriage and fraudulent human sacrifice, the U.N. itself has become a fraud. Notice, the U.N. has not embraced an individual human being, but a group, Archbishop Sheen’s definition of communism. Only in embracing God can an institution embrace an individual human being.

  • Great discussion guys!!

  • The U.N. is, in my opinion, an enemy to the Church, to Israel, to the United States of America, and to human freedom everywhere. It is embryonic world-wide governance. That seems the only embryo is cares to protect. It actively seeks the disarming of individual citizens of member states and central control of energy resources. I would be unsurprised to find population control at the bottom of U.N. policy on so-called climate change. The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change elicited the following response, albeit mild in my view:
    In 2005, the UK House of Lords Select Committee on Economic Affairs produced a report on the economics of climate change. It commented on the IPCC process:
    We have some concerns about the objectivity of the IPCC process, with some of its emissions scenarios and summary documentation apparently influenced by political considerations. There are significant doubts about some aspects of the IPCC’s emissions scenario exercise, in particular, the high emissions scenarios. The Government should press the IPCC to change their approach. There are some positive aspects to global warming and these appear to have been played down in the IPCC reports; the Government should press the IPCC to reflect in a more balanced way the costs and benefits of climate change. I post a link to this document for those who might read the entire tome: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200506/ldselect/ldeconaf/12/12i.pdf
    I have always had a low opinion of the U.N. I can hear the voice of my dear, although Democrat and factually mistaken, Aunt M. saying, “You always were a Bircher, Billy”.

  • Hilary Clinton as Secretary of State signed on to the the Small Arms Treaty with the U. N. to circumvent the pro-gun, Second Amendment vote in America, using international law to reduce America to a satellite nation of the U.N.
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    This is seriously treason.
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    Now, Mrs. Ben Ghazi is looking to run for dog catcher in Washington, D.C. in 2016

  • I really wonder what we can do about all of the above comments! We need to
    have a plan and certainly NOT let Ms. Clinton become our next mess. I want
    everyone to realize and remember that many many Catholics helped get
    Obama elected. Being a democrat was more important than being a moral
    Catholic. I did not even hear one sermon on the subject and I am deeply
    ashamed. SO…WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN THE NEXT ELECTION????

  • Rita Mohacsi: “SO…WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN THE NEXT ELECTION????”
    .
    I share your concern.
    .
    Talking to many individuals at the grocery store, too many simply voted the party of their parents and grandparents, so help me. without giving a thought to what they were electing. Times have changed with the culture of death, sodomy, vice and disregard for the human being, the person and his soul. Only the newly conceived innocence of the human person can bring us Justice, and with Justice, freedom. As Botolph said, he wants to belong to the party of the Lamb. I will settle for TRUTH, Justice and the American Way in public life. The party of TRUTH. How does that sound?

  • The party of Truth sounds much better than the party of LIES. The current President has acted as an elected misleader of a party for which ends justify means. Benghazi and the healthcare deception come easily to mind. We can and must identify the obvious externals without judging the interior dispositions. We can understand the use of mental reservation in extreme cases but must not tolerate deception as a basis of governance. I think vast numbers of people are insensitive to such fine distinctions. The groundwork of relativism was laid years ago. The Father of Lies has deceived an entire generation. Life is not life, just a blob of matter. Sodomy is a basis of marriage. Utopia is just an election away. Forget the Guy in the Sky, we’ll have our Heaven on earth. An earlier generation would find now commonplace attitudes outrageous and inane. Our optimism struggles for air.

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Know Nothings

Thursday, January 9, AD 2014

Know Nothings

 

 

Christopher Johnson, a non-Catholic who has taken up the cudgels in defense of the Church so frequently that I have named him Defender of the Faith, has a memorable fisk at his blog Midwest Conservative Journal of Jamie Stiehm’s anti-Catholic rant, that I fisked here.  Here is Christopher’s fisk:

 

In a case involving the Little Sisters of the Poor, US Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotamayor recently issued a temporary stay against the implementation of that DemocraticPartyCare provision that forces religious entities that consider it to be a grave sin to pay for their employees’ birth control or to facilitate such payment.

I’m not a lawyer but I imagine that Supreme Court justices issue these sorts of stays all the time against quite a few laws for a variety of procedural reasons.  These justices may eventually find that these laws are entirely constitutional while nevertheless insisting that everything be done decently and in good legal order.

But that’s not how Jamie Stiehm saw it in Useless News & World Distort.  According to Stiehm, Sonia Sotamayor is not a leftist “wise Latina” but a Vatican Trojan horse:

Et tu, Justice Sonia Sotomayor? Really, we can’t trust you on women’s health and human rights? The lady from the Bronx just dropped the ball on American women and girls as surely as she did the sparkling ball at midnight on New Year’s Eve in Times Square. Or maybe she’s just a good Catholic girl.

And we’re off.  Get yourselves something good to drink, folks, because this is going to be a wild ride.

The Supreme Court is now best understood as the Extreme Court. One big reason why is that six out of nine Justices are Catholic.

What should Obama do about it?  Declare war on the Papal States or something?

Let’s be forthright about that. (The other three are Jewish.) Sotomayor, appointed by President Obama, is a Catholic who put her religion ahead of her jurisprudence. What a surprise, but that is no small thing.

A hundy says Jamie’s an Episcopalian.  That issue-a-result-I-don’t-like-and-you’ve-put-your-religion-ahead-of-your-jurisprudence take is a dead giveaway.

In a stay order applying to an appeal by a Colorado nunnery, the Little Sisters of the Poor,

Kind of like saying that St. Peter’s is just another Roman parish church but do go on.

Justice Sotomayor undermined the new Affordable Care Act’s sensible policy on contraception. She blocked the most simple of rules – lenient rules – that required the Little Sisters to affirm their religious beliefs against making contraception available to its members. They objected to filling out a one-page form. What could be easier than nuns claiming they don’t believe in contraception?

Might that have something to do with the fact that most people figured out a long time ago that the United States government has absolutely no business whatsofreakingever issuing ANY rules about religious doctrine to any religious groups at all because of that First Amendment doohickey, you simple-minded bucket of spit?

Sotomayor’s blow brings us to confront an uncomfortable reality. More than WASPS, Methodists, Jews, Quakers or Baptists, Catholics often try to impose their beliefs on you, me, public discourse and institutions. Especially if “you” are female.

This explains why capital punishment in this country is rare to non-existent these days and why this country’s had universal health care for decades now.

This is not true of all Catholics – just look at House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi.

An EWDKIY (an Episcopalian Who Doesn’t Know It Yet).  Then there’s the fact that Sotomayor’s a sex traitor. 

But right now, the climate is so cold when it comes to defending our settled legal ground that Sotomayor’s stay is tantamount to selling out the sisterhood. And sisterhood is not as powerful as it used to be, ladies.

At the rate she’s going, Stiehm should break out “greaser” real soon.

Catholics in high places of power have the most trouble, I’ve noticed, practicing the separation of church and state. The pugnacious Catholic Justice, Antonin Scalia, is the most aggressive offender on the Court, but not the only one. Of course, we can’t know for sure what Sotomayor was thinking, but it seems she has joined the ranks of the five Republican Catholic men on the John Roberts Court in showing a clear religious bias when it comes to women’s rights and liberties. We can no longer be silent about this. Thomas Jefferson, the principal champion of the separation between state and church, was thinking particularly of pernicious Rome in his writings. He deeply distrusted the narrowness of Vatican hegemony.

It says up at the top of the link that Jamie’s “a weekly Creators Syndicate columnist.”  And it’s facts like that one and paragraphs like the previous one that make me wonder about God sometimes.  Why should someone that bonecrushingly stupid have a syndicated column while I have to blow through my father’s inheritance just to pay rent, put food on the table and keep the heat going?

Here’s a historical question for you, Jamie.  Do you know what group basically motivated all of Jefferson’s various proposals for religious liberty, against official church establishment, for the seperation of church and state and all the rest of it? 

I’ll give you a hint; amazingly, it wasn’t the Roman Catholics.  There weren’t that many of them around here back then.  It was the Anglicans, the ancestors of that pseudo-spiritual entity that’s currently run by a woman and that’s suing people out of their meeting houses because of what they believe.  Starts with an E, I think.

The seemingly innocent Little Sisters likely were likely not acting alone in their trouble-making.

DUM-DUM-DUM-DUM-DUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!

Their big brothers, the meddlesome American Roman Catholic Archbishops are bound to be involved. They seek and wield tremendous power and influence in the political sphere.

Yeah, sure they do.  There should be a “Whore of Babylon” along any second now.

Big city mayors know their penchant for control all too well. Their principal target for years on end has been squelching women and girls – even when they should have focused on their own men and boys.

You do realize what you’re implying there, don’t you, Jamie? 

In one stroke with ominous implications, there’s no such thing as Catholic justice or mercy for women on the Supreme Court, not even from a woman. The rock of Rome refuses to budge on women’s reproductive rights and the Supreme Court is getting good and ready to strike down Roe v. Wade, which became the law of the land 40 years ago.

Really?  I’ll take your word for it.  But exactly how a Supreme Court decision can become the “law of the land,” since the Supreme Court doesn’t pass laws but only rules on their constitutionality, completely escapes me.

The Anchoress has a far better evisceration of this idiocy than mine so be sure to check it out.  Thanks to Fuinseoig for the heads-up.

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  • “This explains why capital punishment in this country is rare to non-existent these days and why this country’s had universal health care for decades now.”
    Reminds me to ask does anyone know where there is a great short list of Catholic contributions to American government

  • While there are no easy answers to politics and economics, Christians can bring Scripture to bear upon these aspects of life. I do believe governments have the right to practice capital punishment. I do not beleive they must do so, however. We are not bound by Old Testament law, obviously, and we certainly wouldn’t want to transfer Old Testamnet law wholesale. We are not under that dispensation, which was assigned to Israel as a nation. But we can glean insihgts from GOd’s laws to discern righ from wrong and to get a sense of what is just. Reflecting upon O. T. law, I consider that universal healthcare and regard for society’s welfare in general is a good thing. But we must decide, in practical and relevant ways, how to implement all of this in our own context.

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  • If it is true that The Supreme Court is getting ready to strike down Roe v. Wade, it is because they recognize the self-evident truth, that we, every son or daughter of a human person, were created before we came forth from the womb, or became “viable”. From the moment of conception, nothing is added to or subtracted from the DNA of the son or daughter residing in their mother’s womb, thus from the moment of our conception, every son or daughter of a human person is wholly human; a human person can only conceive a human person.

  • “I do believe governments have the right to practice capital punishment. I do not beleive they must do so, however.”
    “But when a man kills another after maliciously scheming to do so, you must take him even from my altar (compassion, mercy) and put him to death.” Exodus 21:14 Capital One Homicide. Premeditated murder. The condemned murderer must expire with grief over his crime. The victim’s innocence is impugned. Did the victim deserve to be put to death? The victim’s life is taken from him. The victim’s innocence must be vindicated. The only way to ban capital punishment, the death penalty, for capital one murder is to expunge homicide.

  • “From the moment of conception, nothing is added to or subtracted from the DNA of the son or daughter residing in their mother’s womb, thus from the moment of our conception, every son or daughter of a human person is wholly human; a human person can only conceive a human person.”
    DNA is scientific proof that a newly begotten sovereign person is a member of the human race, an individual substance of a rational nature according to St. Thomas Aquinas. The will to live of the human soul is the state’s right to life. Dead things do not need abortion. The burden of proof that the new person was not a person was never met by Sarah Weddington, the attorney of Roe.
    Nancy D. I really appreciated your calling the new persons sons and daughters.
    Isaiah 43:6-10 “Bring back my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth: everyone who is named as mine, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made.
    Lead out the people who are blind though they have eyes, who are deaf though they have ears.
    Let all the nations gather together, let the people assemble!
    Who among them could have revealed this, or foretold to us the earlier things?
    Let them produce witnesses to prove themselves right, that one may hear and say: “It is true!”
    You are my witnesses, says the Lord, my servants whom I have chosen to know and believe in me and understand that it is I.
    Isaiah 50:4c-9a
    “If anyone wishes to oppose me, let us appear together. Who disputes my right? Let that man confront me. See, the Lord God is my help; who will prove me wrong?
    If anyone wishes to oppose me, let us appear together. Who disputes my right? Let that man confront me.” : Habeas Corpus, a person must be confronted by his accuser in a court of law. No trials in absentia. “See, the Lord God is my help; who will prove me wrong?” Two witnesses will establish a judicial fact. One witness is no witness. The Magna Carta and The U.S. Constitution based on Judeo-Christian principles found in Isaiah.

  • Last time I checked (which was some time ago) US News was owned by Morton Zuckerman. He owns Atlantic Monthly also which a few years ago (the last time I was reading it) often ran articles insulting to faithful Catholics. It was clear that there was an agenda then. I suspect there still is.

  • Yes there is an agenda!
    Zuckerman is betraying our Judeo Christian heritage.
    The Know Nothings haven’t learned much in the last 148 years (going by the date on the marker pictured at the top of this post).
    You might call them the “Stubbornly Know Even Less”, refusing to grow and learn despite all the great ecumenical efforts, the communications set forth by people of good will from so many truly earnest religious people. Some people refuse the truth.

Jamie Stiehm: Anti-Catholic Bigot

Wednesday, January 8, AD 2014

Anti-Catholicism

“Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we begin by declaring that “all men are created equal.” We now practically read it “all men are created equal, except negroes.” When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read “all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics.” When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty-to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy.”

Abraham Lincoln, letter to Joshua Speed, August 24, 1855

 

Jamie Stiehm is a journalist and a bigot.  Her bigotry of choice is anti-Catholicism.  Go here to see one of her anti-Catholic screeds at US News & World Report.  She is getting 15 minutes of fame currently for a diatribe against Catholics on the Supreme Court which appears this week at US News & World Report, charmingly entitled The Catholic Supreme Court’s War on Women.  My fisk of her post follows:

Et tu, Justice Sonia Sotomayor? Really, we can’t trust  you on women’s health and human rights? The lady from the Bronx just dropped  the ball on American women and girls as surely as she did the sparkling ball at  midnight on New Year’s Eve in Times Square. Or maybe she’s just a good Catholic  girl.

This is in reference to Sotomayor granting a temporary injunction to The Little Sisters of the Poor in reference to the contraceptive mandate.  Since Ms. Stiehm is obviously as bone ignorant of the law as she is of Catholicism I will explain for her benefit that this is a fairly routine matter.  The country is divided up into areas between the Justices of the Supreme Court.  After a case has been ruled upon by a federal appellate circuit court, it is not unusual for the losing party to attempt to gain a stay from the Supreme Court justice overseeing that circuit.  Injunctions are often granted if, as in this case, it is obvious that the case will ultimately be resolved by the Supreme Court.  Granting a temporary injunction is no indication of how the Court, or the individual Justice, will rule on the case, assuming the Supreme Court agrees to take the appeal.

The Supreme Court is now best understood as the Extreme  Court. One  big reason why is that six out of nine Justices are Catholic. Let’s  be  forthright about that. (The other three are Jewish.) Sotomayor,  appointed by  President Obama, is a Catholic who put her religion ahead  of her jurisprudence.  What a surprise, but that is no small thing.

This of course is vastly amusing.  Over the years many Catholics have served on the Supreme Court, and I defy anyone to establish any consistent pattern of voting that distinguishes Catholic justices from non-Catholic justices.  Of course facts and logic are a small matter to a true bigot like Ms. Stiehm.  The fact that someone is a Catholic is all she needs to know, and she will listen to nothing else.  Like an anti-Semite who will not care that Isaac and Rebekah differ on much, to the anti-Semite they are just, and only, Jews, just as to a true anti-Catholic, Catholics are not individuals but merely Catholics, the locus of evil in this world.

“In a stay order applying to an appeal by a Colorado  nunnery, the  Little Sisters of the Poor, Justice Sotomayor undermined the new   Affordable Care Act’s sensible policy on contraception. She blocked the  most  simple of rules – lenient rules – that required the Little Sisters  to affirm  their religious beliefs against making contraception  available to its members.  They objected to filling out a one-page form.  What could be easier than nuns  claiming they don’t believe in  contraception?”

Ms. Stiehm has no concern for the violation of the religious freedom of the sisters.  Rich Lowry at National Review Online explains what is at stake:

When the contraception mandate first caused an uproar, the administration contrived a so-called accommodation for religiously oriented groups (actual churches have always been exempt). But whoever crafted it had a sick sense of humor. The very same document by which a group registers its moral objection to contraceptives and abortifacients also authorizes the insurer to cover them for the group’s employees. What the accommodation gives with one hand, it takes away with the other.

The Little Sisters refuse to sign such a document. They happen to be in an unusual situation because they get their insurance from another religiously affiliated organization opposed to contraceptives and abortifacients, so it may be that these drugs don’t get covered no matter what. But the Little Sisters can’t be sure of this — the regulations are complicated and subject to change.

Regardless, they don’t want to sign. They want no part in authorizing coverage of contraceptive or abortive drugs. Enthusiasts for the mandate scoff. What the nuns are objecting to, they insist, is just a piece of paper.

Just a piece of paper? So is a mortgage. So is a wedding certificate. So is a will. How would the board of directors of NARAL react if the government forced them to sign a “piece of paper” tacitly condemning contraception or abortion? Would they shrug it off as a mere formality?

Sotomayor’s blow brings us to confront an uncomfortable  reality. More  than WASPS, Methodists, Jews, Quakers or Baptists, Catholics  often try  to impose their beliefs on you, me, public discourse and  institutions.  Especially if “you” are female. This is not true of all  Catholics –  just look at House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi. But right now,  the  climate is so cold when it comes to defending our settled legal ground  that  Sotomayor’s stay is tantamount to selling out the sisterhood. And  sisterhood is  not as powerful as it used to be, ladies.

Nancy Pelosi has not spent her career seeking to impose her views on others?  Hilarious!  Ms. Stiehm has no problem with people imposing their views on others apparently, so long as Ms. Stiehm agrees with the views being imposed.  Raising this argument about imposition of views in regard to the Contraceptive Mandate imposed by the government is truly an Orwellian touch by Ms. Stiehm.

Catholics in high places of power have the most trouble,  I’ve  noticed, practicing the separation of church and state. The pugnacious   Catholic Justice, Antonin Scalia, is the most aggressive offender on the  Court,  but not the only one. Of course, we can’t know for sure what Sotomayor was thinking, but it seems she has joined the ranks of the  five Republican  Catholic men on the John Roberts Court in showing a  clear religious bias when  it comes to women’s rights and liberties. We  can no longer be silent about  this. Thomas Jefferson, the principal  champion of the separation between state  and church, was thinking  particularly of pernicious Rome in his writings. He  deeply distrusted  the narrowness of Vatican hegemony.

This woman is truly delusional.  Catholics in the Democrat party have been notable for the past 40 years in defying the teachings of the Church on any number of issues.  Evangelical Protestants, as a group, have been much closer to the teachings of the Church in Congress than Catholic Democrats.  However, as stated earlier, reason and logic are so many pearls before a swine when it comes to a true bigot like Ms. Stiehm.  In regard to Thomas Jefferson, in reference to the separation of Church and State he was primarily thinking of the Anglican Church, Catholics being about two percent of the population of the United States in his time.

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  • What gets you is that this vulgarian dolt is 52 years old and is the recipient of a plum from the Woodrow Wilson Center (a subsidiary of the Smithsonian).

    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jamie-stiehm/14/aa2/589

    She has a long history as a reporter (employed by both CBS News and The Sun of Baltimore).

  • I read a lot of things on the internet, and most of them are overreactions to something else on the internet. I followed the link to Stiehm’s article, and wow, she’s an anti-Catholic bigot. You’ve nailed it in connecting her bigotry to Know-Nothingism. I didn’t think a person could say this kind of thing any more (like, in the most recent 150 years) without being laughed, or thrown, off the stage.

  • It was of course the Anglicans that Jefferson was concerned about. Baptists at that time were a persecuted minority in the South. Jefferson wanted to limit Anglican hegemony.

  • Ms. Stiehm does not name names for she might have to prove her allegations against an Archbishop Lorri or an Archbishop Chaput in a court of law and be held accountable for her defamation and unsubstantiated statements. Ms. Stiehm, in her ferocious assault on Supreme Court Justice Sotomeyer blames Sotomeyer’s religion, Scalia’s religion, the nameless Archbishops’ religion, the Catholic Church’s religion, and every Catholic who dares to be Catholic and have religion for not allowing her to have and take victory in this War against Women as though the First Amendment had never been ratified. Ms. Stiehm incites to riot, mindlessly disturbing the peace, while poking the bear of real human rights violations with hearsay, unproven accusations and no name individuals. Without proof or provocation the bloodthirsty assault leaves no law, no Justice in place.
    Ms. Stiehm is full of hot air.

  • Good for you Justice Sandra Sotomayor for maintaining the status quo by granting the Temporary Restraining Order in favor of the Little Sisters of the Poor.

    The sisters at Blessed Sacrament Grammar School and Cardinal Spellman High School in the Bronx would be very pleased with your sense of justice and proportionality. They no doubt helped you develop these noble virtues.

    Your parents would be proud; they raised a good Catholic girl.

    Stand strong against the anti-Catholic bigotry of Ms. Stiehm and other contemporary Know Nothings.

  • Seems like a brush back pitch aimed at Sotomayor.

  • I must have crossed paths with this miscreant, since we’re the same age and I was at Bryn Mawr when she was at Swathmore and we shared a bus linking the campuses. Stiehm is a bigot of the highest order, a journalistic parasite feeding off of the shock and legitimate anger if Catholics and conservatives and, most importantly, a very bad writer. Trying to wade through her oped is like taking a trip with Jean Valjean through the sewers. Truly wretched stuff.

  • Surely, “piece of paper” was a slip of the pen; it should have been “a scrap of paper.”

    One can only imagine that, In this centenary year, Ms Stiehm was alluding to Chancellor Theobald von Bethmann-Hollweg’s famous remark.

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  • “and is the recipient of a plum from the Woodrow Wilson Center” . . . say no more.

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  • Michael P-S I finally got time this afternoon to look up you reference to the German chancellor’s famous remark.. ( we don’t want a day to go by without a new wrinkle in the grey matter) – interesting – a reference to the Treaty of London guaranteeing the safety of Belgium as merely a scrap of paper. Further reading shows that some of the bad things the Brits are blamed for in that era could be blameable on German maneuvers behind the scenes (Hindu–German Conspiracy)… a rabbit hole for me….

    back to the nuns and their scrap of paper– may it occupy an important place in history!

  • I’ve read so many fisks on this in the last few days that this minor line leaped out a me: “the anti-woman conspiracy goes on, with Rush Limbaugh leading the pack of thousands of men. ”

    AAAAhhhhhh!!!! Thousands of meeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!!

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Thomas Nast, Santa Claus and Anti-Catholicism

Thursday, December 12, AD 2013

Union Santa Claus

At this time of the year it is appropriate to recall that the modern image of Santa Claus was largely created by a German immigrant to these shores, Thomas Nast, an illustrator for Harper’s Weekly.  The above is the first of his many Santa Claus drawings.  It appeared on January 3, 1863 and showed a Red, White and Blue clad Santa visiting Union troops.  Nast would draw Santa Claus many times throughout his career and the Santa we see today is largely Santa as imagined by Nast.

Born in 1840 in Landau in Germany, then a geographical term rather than a nation, Nast came to America as a child, along with his family.  His passion for drawing was notable even as a child.  In 1862 he became illustrator for Harper’ Weekly, a post he would hold until 1886.

Nast was a cartoonist with strong convictions.  He loved the Union, racial equality, at least for Negroes and the Chinese immigrants in the West, the Republican party, until he supported Grover Cleveland in 1884, political reform, and any number of other reform causes.  He was also clear as to what he hated:  the Confederacy, political corruption, especially the Tammany Hall organization in New York and the Democrat party, until he supported Cleveland in 1884.  Among his hates were Irish immigrants, largely supporters of the Democrat party, and the Catholic Church.

Like many a bitter anti-Catholic bigot, Nast was a born and baptized Catholic.  He had left the Faith by his marriage in 1861 to an Episcopalian.    Nast’s anti-Catholicism was savage.  Typical is  an 1870 cartoon where the Pope is depicted as lusting to conquer America:

Nast_Promised_Land

Nast also hated Mormons, as depicted in the cartoon below where Nast symbolizes Catholicism and Mormons as foreign reptiles, demonstrating that Nast knew little about Mormonism, an entirely American creation, or of the history of Catholicism in what is now the United States, which stretches back to the earliest explorations:

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  • Badly educated Catholics have a tendency to be nasty people.

  • sounds like a death-bed convert.

  • We can hope, Mary– and somewhat true, Penguins Fan. I was a badly educated Catholic, and… wait, not the best example… my husband was a HORRIBLY badly educated Catholic, and he’s definitely not nasty.

  • Is this in fact where the adjective “nasty” comes from?
    I don’t know of any other root for the word.

  • DOnald, you rihgtly poin out the American origins of Mormonism. It is an American creation, but unlike most other groups emerging out of that burned over district and elsewhere, Mormonism never really gained full acceptance. It remains weird to many.

  • It seemed quite a bit less weird to most people after the Mormons dropped polygamy in the 1880s. Whatever qualms non-Mormons have about Mormonism today is as nothing compared to the furor that was raised during the nineteenth century. I noted this in my Mormon Bad Boy post of a few years back:

    http://the-american-catholic.com/2010/04/20/mormon-bad-boy/

  • True, Donald. That’s especially true out West. They HAVE become more mainstream. They’ve acquired something of a global empire i’ve heard. Their narrative is so dubious, though. For someone who is logical and analytical, and Christians are quite capable of being so, Mormonism is a fairytale wtihout correspondance to hisotry or the factual realm. Christianity is historical and as we see it, the structure of existence. Correspondance-wise and coherence-wise, it’s philosophically the perfect fit. And of course it would be because it’s true.

  • Nast also stuck us with the familiar Donkey and Elephant mascots for the Democrat and Republican parties.

    In case anyone didn’t already know.

  • A well educated Catholic gone wrong is a far more dangerous thing that a poorly educated one who is simply ignorant.

  • “Mormonism is a fairytale wtihout correspondance to hisotry or the factual realm.”

    I don’t agree with the LDS, and don’t see myself getting convinced any time soon, but maybe that’s not the most generous way to talk about them – not that I haven’t ever told a Mormon joke among friends.

  • One thing I have observed: those who are viciously anti-Catholic very often are often will reveal in the next breath that they are equally viciously bigoted against the LDS Church. A short amount of exploration of the bigot’s premises oftenreveals hostility to the fact that both groups tend to be traditional oriented towards family values and both support traditional marriage. When someone holds up a bad Mormon-type (“Jack-Mormon”), I can only look at the Jack-Catholics our side has (like Dick Durbin, Nancy Pelosi, the late Ted Kennedy, and we could go on and on ad nauseam. Ad my nauseam).

  • As I pointed out to one Mormon who was apologizing for Reid, he exists in part so that Catholics don’t feel too lonely with Pelosi.

  • One thing I have observed: those who are viciously anti-Catholic very often are often will reveal in the next breath that they are equally viciously bigoted against the LDS Church.

    So not “really” against either, just against those who make them feel ashamed for misbehaving.

  • I think we can speak generously about the Mormon’s practical approach to life in certian instances. I don’t think it’s wrong to point out the absurdity of their faith claims, however. If we are dealing with truth, it should be acknowledged that they base much of their beliefs upon a novel written in the nineteenth century.

  • I am Irish/Catholic and am studying Nast for my master’s degree. More on his Chinese depictions but I have done considerable research on his relations with the Irish & Catholic populations of the day. My opinion is his “hatred” was aimed directly at the Tweed-Irish-Catholic alliance, which of course, factored in to his reaction to the public or common school issue, which was at the heart of his dispute with the Catholics.This had a lot to do with Tweed. I personally was shocked to discover that American Catholics were not in favor of abolition, the leadership of the church, Bishop Hughes, preferring not to tamper with the status quo of slavery. That was never taught in my Cattholic education and we bear some responsibility for that part of our history. Nast did not hate Catholics. He was indeed baptized in the faith, and converted to the Episcopalian faith upon his marriage. Nast frequently praised progressive Catholics, such as Dollinger and Hyacinth and admired their independant thinking during the promologation of papal infallability. As a satirist or caricatturist, his pen in hand was brutal toward anyone or institution he felt displayed hypocrisy. His contemporary biography made a point of saying he was not anti Catholic, merely against the policies that linked them to Tweed or to Democrats. Later when talk of Chinese exclusion began festering, he blamed the Irish for leading that oppression. Did Nast have any point? That is a hot question – a very difficult topic. Certainly Germans Americans conidered themselves superior to their fellow Irish immigrants. Almost every Protestant did. The Irish were at the low end of the totem pole…and you can’t blame them for doing what they needed to do to rise. My research shows that the ire in Nast’s ink was more political than personal or theological. He was one of the first artists to portray African Americans as dignified and normal – but later, when they made questionable aliances with Democrats, Nast skewered them, depicting them as stereotypic buffons. A lifelong Radical Republican Nast went after Rep. Blaine when he ran for president. All because he changed his mind about the Chinese. So there is a consistency to his brutal caricatures. He went to the extreme with the Irish and Catholics, agreed, but on issues like abolition and public school funds and Tweed, Nast’s passion was at its highest, and therefore his attacks were the most virulent.

  • Like today, people ofthat time were locked into polarized positions. If you were Republican, you took the entire package. If Democrat, the same. The likes and dislikes came together in the package. Republicans were the nativists.

  • You let Nast off much too easy Michele. Nast in regard to the Catholic Church simply hated it. Those who broke with the Church like Dollinger of course he liked! (By the way, calling Dollinger “progressive” shows the limitations of that term. Dollinger thought that he was the one standing against innovations within the Church. He was wrong but labeling him progressive drains that term of any meaning.)

    “I personally was shocked to discover that American Catholics were not in favor of abolition, the leadership of the church, Bishop Hughes, preferring not to tamper with the status quo of slavery.”

    “Dagger John” was steadfast for the Union during the War in the face of quite a bit of opposition. Some Catholics were in favor of abolition and spoke out prior to the Civil War. Most Catholics tended to have views on slavery based upon their political allegiances and most Catholics were Democrats and most Democrats were not in favor of abolition. Abolition seems like an easy question for us today. It was not so simple for most people at the time. Consider how many Catholics you have probably encountered who are pro-aborts. Evils that should be immediately condemned frequently are not once they become well-established.

    “As a satirist or caricatturist, his pen in hand was brutal toward anyone or institution he felt displayed hypocrisy.”

    Ah hypocrisy! I sometimes think that is the only sin in these degraded times. I think you completely misread Nast. He had well developed beliefs and simply blasted anyone who had the temerity not to share those beliefs.

  • “I personally was shocked to discover that American Catholics were not in favor of abolition, the leadership of the church, Bishop Hughes, preferring not to tamper with the status quo of slavery. That was never taught in my Catholic education and we bear some responsibility for that part of our history.”

    That’s a subject that I’d like to see a good book written about… I might have to write it if no one else has 🙂

    Just based on what I’ve read to date about the subject, I believe there were several reasons why antebellum American Catholics generally didn’t want to touch the abolitionist movement with a 10-foot pole, despite strong condemnations of slavery and the slave trade by the popes of the time:

    1. As a church made up primarily of recently arrived immigrants who were by and large dirt poor and themselves the targets of vicious nativist attacks, the bishops and priests of the time were simply too preoccupied with the survival of their own flocks to get involved in such a divisive issue.

    2. Some prominent abolitionists were also anti-Catholic; some even proclaimed the Catholic Church and its hierarchy to be just as much a threat to the Republic as the “Slave Power.” Adherents of the former Know Nothing Party made up a big chunk of the early Republican Party so, needless to say, Catholics felt about as welcome in that party as ants at a picnic.

    3. The Church, from what I gather, did not, at that time, place slavery quite on the same level of intrinsic evil as it places abortion and euthanasia today. Slavery was perhaps more comparable (in the eyes of 19th century bishops) to capital punishment as it is regarded by today’s hierarchy — an institution that had been around since time immemorial and was, in theory, justifiable, but in practice led to so many abuses that it was time to abolish it. And even if the Church did condemn slavery, the question of whether slavery was enough of an evil to demand immediate emancipation of all slaves regardless of the cost — which everyone knew would mean massive bloodshed via civil war or a slave rebellion — was probably enough to give most priests and bishops pause. It could be that the Church remained silent on the issue of slavery, particularly in the American South where pro-slavery laws and viewpoints were rigidly enforced, for much the same reason that Pope Pius XII allegedly remained “silent” regarding the Holocaust — it was a matter of prudence because speaking out would do nothing to improve the situation of the slaves and would likely only make things worse for Catholics.

    4. A Catholic could, apparently, own slaves and remain a Catholic in good standing, provided that he treated them with charity and respect. The Church did teach that slaves were never to be treated as mere chattels and that their marriage and family ties should be respected — husbands and wives were not to be sold away from one another or parents from children. In some cases, Catholic slaves and slaveowners attended the same parishes and slaves were permitted to marry and have their children baptized in the Catholic Church. Case in point: Servant of God Fr. Augustine Tolton, the first identified black priest in the U.S., who was born to a slave couple in Missouri in 1854 and was baptized in the same parish that his family’s owners belonged to.

    All that said, I do find it intriguing to compare the Church’s approach to slavery in the 19th century with its approach to abortion, same-sex civil marriage, capital punishment, etc. today. As far as I know, no one ever demanded that Supreme Court Justice Roger Taney, a Catholic, be excommunicated for the Dred Scott decision the way pro-lifers demanded that Supreme Court Justice William Brennan, also a Catholic, be excommunicated for siding with the majority on Roe vs. Wade. Why that is the case is a pretty long story, I suppose.

  • Those are the stereotypes, Elaine. The democrats didn’t care about equality and the republicans didn’t care about non-Americans and all the rest of it. Still today people sign onto platforms that always represent mixed bags. Few analyze the merits of each element. If they did, we’d have more independents.

  • Re Nast’s Santa: Yesterday I attended a Christmas open house at the Illinois Governor’s Mansion, which featured Christmas trees decorated in various historical themes. One tree had a Civil War theme decorated with figures of Nash’s Santa and a poster explaining the 1863 Harper’s Weekly illustration. The poster pointed out that the face of the puppet that Santa is playing with is that of Jefferson Davis — and that Santa is symbolically hanging him! Guess Nast just couldn’t help including a dig at the South…

Down Argentine Way

Wednesday, December 4, AD 2013

Lovely.  As the video above indicates the ultimate expression of the pro-abort mentality is a complete hatred for Catholicism.  Ed Morrissey at Hot Air gives us the details:

After watching the video, one might guess that the police were intimidated by the sheer size of the protest.  Clearly, they didn’t want to intervene on behalf of some people who were turning themselves into passive human shields to protect their place of worship. It’s not as if they had been taken by surprise, though, because this happens every year in Argentina for its National Meeting of Women, and a trek to defile the local cathedral is always on the agenda.

It happened last year in October:

Around 500 abortion activists in Posadas hurled insults, spat and threw paint on young Catholics who prayed the Rosary outside the local cathedral and prevented the demonstrators from entering.

The activists convened in the city Oct. 7 for the 27th National Meeting of Women in Argentina.

According to local media, the group march through the city, painting homes and streets with slogans in support of abortion and homosexual marriage as well as anti-Catholic slurs.

Some activists reportedly stripped naked, while others made sexual gestures at the young people standing in prayer outside the Cathedral of Posadas.

CNA also reported on it in 2009, when the route did get detoured away from the local cathedral:

The self-titled “National Meeting of Women,” which recently took place in Tucuman, Argentina, was not the exclusive domain of pro-abortion propaganda as in recent years, but this year was attended by a well-prepared group of women who spoke up in defense of life and against abortion.

In a report issued by the Christian Family Movement, analyst Eduardo Zavalia said the feminists who organized this event were shocked, as they had been accustomed to “doing and saying whatever they wanted and telling others what to say.” This year, he recounted, they were met with a group of women “firm in their values and large enough in numbers to be a majority in most of the workshops.”

“In some workshops, overcome by mere reason, abortion activists resorted to physically removing those who defended life,” the report said.

Even the usual violent and anti-Catholic march organized by abortion supporters was detoured this year in order to avoid passing in front of the cathedral where they usually harassed the faithful.

They weren’t so lucky in 2008:

A video posted on YouTube.com put on full display the ferocity of abortion supporters who were participating in the National Meeting of Women in the Argentinean city of Neuquen last August. It shows them harassing and insulting a group of Catholic young people who were standing outside the Cathedral of Neuquen to keep the church safe from the protests.

The National Meeting of Women is a feminist event that takes place each year to pressure authorities to legalize abortion and to promote reproductive rights and gender ideology.

Financed by anti-life NGOs and supported by the government of Argentinean president Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, the meeting brings together pro-abortion, feminist, homosexual and left-wing organizations.

The meeting usually ends with a protest through the streets of the host city, with organizers planning the route to include a stop at the local cathedral. This year, in order to keep protestors from trashing the cathedral grounds, a group of young people from Neuquen stood outside the cathedral to pray and form a barrier against the protestors.

That’s why the Catholics in the diocese were ready to protect their church.  It’s not much of a mystery why the police weren’t prepared to protect them from these attacks, though, as the Kirchner government supports the thugs rather than the peaceful people they attack.

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  • The only things lacking were brown shirts and arm bands.

    Liberalism is fascism with effective PR and 24/7 media lying/tongue baths.

    FYI items I do not lack: Rosary beads and bullets.

    Reportedly, in 19th century NYC, the 69th NY Militia formed at Old St. Partrick’s Cathedral to defend it from such Know-Nothings.

  • All I can think of is Matthew 5:10-12
    10Blessed are those who suffer persecution in the cause of right; the kingdom of heaven is theirs. 11 Blessed are you, when men revile you, and persecute you, and speak all manner of evil against you falsely, because of me. 12 Be glad and light-hearted, for a rich reward awaits you in heaven

  • A modern day Way of the Cross.

  • It’ll keep happening and get worse as long as we continue to be pacifists.

  • Is it a sin to want to punch somebody in the nose? Asking for a friend.

  • Living martyrs. God bless those brave Catholics!

  • Some of the YouTube videos I’ve seen of this have been taken from Argentine
    network news. Typically, the news reports will show long shots of marching
    pro-abortion LGBT crowds, but omit shots of what happens once they reach
    the cathedral. The announcer describes the events as “protesters clashing”…

    It reminds me of the coverage of mob violence against Coptic Christians in
    Egypt, where islamist mobs march into Christian neighborhoods, smashing and
    burning, and western news agencies blandly describe the violence as a “clash
    of protesters”.

  • Heroic. Incredible strength and restraint. If we could stand with them somehow. Put pressure on our media to cover this world wide war on Christians.

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  • I have a dumb question. Religion aside, were not these men being assaulted by these demented women? Where were the Police?! Can you begin to imagine if the situation was reversed??

Better Late Than Never

Monday, August 19, AD 2013

28 Responses to Better Late Than Never

  • The Democrats have Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Patrick Leahy, etc. The Republicans have Chris Christie, Rudy Giuliani, George Pataki, etc. The difference is ???????????????????????????

    John 18:33-38

    33 Then Pilate entered the headquarters again, summoned Jesus, and asked him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” 34 Jesus answered, “Do you ask this on your own, or did others tell you about me?” 35 Pilate replied, “I am not a Jew, am I? Your own nation and the chief priests have handed you over to me. What have you done?” 36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my followers would be fighting to keep me from being handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my kingdom is not from here.” 37 Pilate asked him, “So you are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. For this I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to my voice.” 38 Pilate asked him, “What is truth?”

  • “The difference is ???????????????????????????”

    You can find that Paul in the horde of pro-life legislation passed in the States since the Republicans took control of a majority of state legislatures in 2010. Even Christie has led efforts in New Jersey to defund Planned Parenthood. As for Pataki and Giuliani, they help explain how New York, in effect, became a one party state.

  • I know you are correct, Donald, for which reason I vote Republican when given a choice between only Democrat and Republican. In fact, I always encourage everyone to vote against the Democrats. But Psalms 146:3 comes to mind: “Do not put your trust in princes, in mortals, in whom there is no help.”

  • That is correct Paul. Politicians are almost always, at best, the lesser of two evils. The only exceptions that come to mind readily for me during my lifetime are Ronald Reagan and Henry Hyde.

  • Politics are essentially coersion and deceit.

    The so-called blue model promotes abortion and feeds on class envy/hatred.

    Is the bishop signalling that one cannot be a good Catholic and a democrat?

    Next on the bishop’s to-go list should be: shame the despicable democrats.

  • The CNS article links to more extended excerpts from WPRI. They’re definitely worth reading. To Paul’s comment, the bishop held up his baptismal certificate and Republican registration and said that he believed that they were complementary, but he knew which one he would want on-hand at the Judgement.

  • I do not know that it is necessary for Bishops to announce their party registration (or register in the first place).

    I had somehow missed it that Cdl. O’Malley had dirtied himself with the Kennedy requiem. Clerics generally have a talent for evasion and passive-aggressive behavior; you wonder why they could not put some of that to work to avoid appearing at another ceremony of the Kennedy cargo cult. (Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment…).

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  • “Catholicism, at most, is a cultural affinity for bells and smells when they bother to show up for mass.”

    When was the last time you were at a Catholic religious service that featured bells and incense?

  • “The only exceptions that come to mind readily for me during my lifetime are Ronald Reagan and Henry Hyde. ”
    Christopher Henry Smith (RNJ) changed to Republican some 40 years ago. Andy Harris (RMD). Paul Ryan.

  • I think that Catholic bishops should not be registered in any political party. I remember the late Cardinal O’Connor of New York stated that he had always been registered as a “blank” (a term of art in New York).

  • I too, don’t think it is prudent for a bishop to reveal his political affiliation. But now that His Excellency has let the cat out of the bag, I have to ask, what the hell took him so long.

    I mean the Democrats have supported abortion and other moral decay for more than forty years. If it took until 2012 for Bp. Tobin to have an “a ha”, he’s in serious need of a brain cell implant. And he is supposed to be one of the “better bishops” in the American Hierarchy.

    Knowing the Church belongs to the Lord and not these guys fills me with confidence.

  • I haven’t seen any Dems at Traditional Masses (bells and smells). They are typically fully of deeply conservative people (both religiously and politically). Not sure why anyone shows up for Mass where there are no bells or incense because where they are lacking both reverence and devout worship appear to be lacking as well. Maybe Bishop Tobin will note the same thing many other Bishops are noticing…that for every Modernist seminarian there are four Traditionals.

  • The real question is how any Catholic, especially a priest, could have ever supported the Democratic (sic) Party. But it’s better late than never that the bishop saw the light. The Democratic (sic) Party has, for decades, served the agenda of the devil. Its members have worked against every Christian value, principle and tenet. It’s ideology has served to enslave more people to an ever greater tyrannical state which has taken over the rights and responsibilities of the individual and parent and has served to keep minorities in perpetual poverty. It continues to instigate class, sex, econmical and generational warfare and considers its members a class of self-appointed aristocrats who demand allegiance to their ideology of hypocrisy, double standards, hatred of truth, virtue, and responsibility.

  • It’s a tough road to walk, being a devout Catholic in the Democratic Party. I’ve known some. You have to believe in the party’s approach to caring for the poor, and be willing to speak up against abortion. As the years go by – check that, as the generation who were adults in the 1970’s (when Roe was decided, and both parties were feeling their way around the issue) leaves the limelight and a younger generation who has seen D=abortion and R=life all of their lives come of age – the pro-life Democrat vanishes from the conversation. Also, as happened with this bishop, whatever personal pro/con list you’ve come up with to remain a Catholic Democrat has got to have had a few additions in the con column in the last few years.

  • Media Headlines if Romney Were President: “Hunger and Poverty Continue To Expand To Unprecedented Levels”

    From Drudge: More Catholic than . . .

    “In a video featuring Duck Dynasty’s Phil Robertson, the TV star – in what appears to be a religious sermon – declares his pro-life stance on the issue of abortion. When discussing the ethics of, and that there’s even a debate on, the issue, he asks, ‘What in the world happened to us?’

    “‘Listen, from the time you started inside your mother’s womb, Thomas Jefferson had it right, you have the God-given right to life for crying out loud. You’re this long (pointing to his finger). You’re a week old inside your mother. They suck you out of there when you’re about like that (point to finger again). You wouldn’t be here tonight!'”

    How can one be a democrat and a Catholic?

    PS: Voting for charlatons that promise to confiscate more money from people whom you envy and hate is not a corporal work of mercy. Matt. 25 (it’s nowehere else, and misinterpreted: least of My brothers – Christ defines his brothers = he who does my Father’s will: it ain’t democrat constituencies) has been subverted by deceitful pols for evil purposes.

    No kumbaya for you!

    On dem party helping the poor:

    Instapundit: “I think a lot of leftists like to believe there’s a fixed pot of goodies, and then arrogate to themselves the power to distribute its contents. Declinism fits their preferences better than growth.”

    Salena Zito, “Washington’s media class spends much of its energy inciting political divisions or writing about them, dedicating great gobs of print, airtime and social media to chopping up Americans by race, political party, culture or religion.”

    Gotta love poor people, and make more poor people!

    In 2000, 64% of working-age Americans held a job. Today, 58.7% of working-age Americans has a job.

    In 2000, there were 17 million Americans on food stamps. Today, there are more than 47 million.

    In 2000, the ratio of social welfare benefits to salaries and wages was approximately 21%. Today, the ratio of social welfare benefits to salaries and wages is approximately 35%.

    Since Barack Obama entered the White House, the average price of a gallon of gasoline in the United States has risen from $1.85 to $3.89.

    7/9/2013: CNS News reports: “The number of Americans receiving subsidized food assistance from the federal government has risen to 101 million, representing roughly a third of the U.S. population.

    Stop me . . .

  • It is wrong to make so blanket an assertion. The Republicans have have as much blood on their as hands by the way that stand in opposition to things that the the USCCB clearly supports such as immigration reform. Yes, the Democrats are clearly wrong and promote things that go against Catholic teaching on matters such as abortion, contraception and same-sex marriage.

    The Republicans, however oppose so many things that Catholic teaching does support, gun control, health care reform, immigration reform, and yes, even treating same sex attracted people with dignity as human beings. On need only listen to the vitriol spouted by people, Catholics!, like Pat Buchannan, Bill O’Reilly, and Laura Ingraham as proof of this.

  • Rubbish. Being in favor of gun control is not part of the dogma of the Catholic Church, ditto the endless boondoggle known as ObamaCare, attempted legalization of illegal aliens and efforts to pretend that homosexuality is perfectly normal and right, the political stances of some silly clerics notwithstanding. Your attempt to claim that Republicans have blood on their hands is rich when one considers the million unborn who will be put to death this year in the US thanks to the unwavering support for abortion uber alles of almost all elected Democrats.

  • Zippity,
    Admit it. To your mind, to oppose the normalization of homosexual conduct is spouting vitriol.

  • @ Zippity_Do_Daddy: “The Republicans have have as much blood on their as hands by the way that stand in opposition to things that the the USCCB clearly supports such as immigration reform.” Really ? Perhaps you don’t live in a border state like I do, but FYI enforcing illegals’ behavior with a nonexistent fence and deporting illegal aliens isn’t the same as killing them. If it is, then their countries of origin are the killers. They get tons of free health care — so no killing in the medical field. They get all kinds of help with crisis pregnancies — and with normal pregnancies — note millions of anchor babies born in public hospitals at public expense. YOU AMERICAN MOTHERS — NO FREE BABIES FOR YOU. YOU AREN’T AS GOOD AS THE MIGRANTES BECAUSE YOU WON’T HAVE AS MANY BABIES (I wonder why…). All kinds of free food, education, you name it — from church AND state. All kinds of jobs taken from Americans because with all the supplemental help and income, they can afford to accept lower wages and undercut EVIL GRINGOES.

  • Zippity_Do_Daddy is the reason why I do not dialogue with liberals. I may dislike the Republicans, but I will always vote for them if only to vote against the Democrats.

    The USCCB needs to focus on the Gospel of conversion and repentance, NOT on boon-doggle social justice programs that enrich and empower Caesar while emasculating our liberty.

    Gun Control: there are three things the enemy may have only once I am dead: my Bible, my Rosary and my mini-14.

    Immigration Reform: why should it take 2 years for a hard-working, dedicated and extremely bright nuclear engineer from Nigeria whom I know to receive citizenship, but illegals with nothing to contribute but crime and drug addiction sneaking over the border can get amnesty?

    There is a place where the USCCB can shove its social justice idiocy.

  • Catholic Democrats have done more to destroy America than the Communist Party ever hoped to do. And the Catholic Bishops and clergy in America are going to have a lot of explaining to God about why so many of them remained giving their name identification and support to the only worldly organization responsible in the U.S. for keeping the murder of the unborn – legal.

    Catholics are the largest single group of people that endorse with their names, and support with their time, money and votes the pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage, anti-freedom of religion, anti-God Democratic Party. That support gives the Democrat Party the ELECTORAL POWER to continue their attack against God’s greatest gifts – life, marriage, and liberty.

  • The Republicans, however oppose so many things that Catholic teaching does support, gun control, –

    You have confounded Catholic teaching with the output of the position-paper graphomaniacs on the staff of the bishops’ conference and various diocesan chanceries.

    Catholic World Report used to have a mordantly amusing feature wherein they would begin with a hypothetical – asking what if you were in charge of [insert philanthropic apostolate] and you had $500 to spare, what would you do with it? They would list three or four options (e.g. “give it to the Missionaries of Charity”). The punchline would be, “well, if you are [insert the name of mid-level Church-o-crat] of the [list name of diocese, order, or apostolate], you give it to the John Kerry for President campaign”. Appended would be a link to the entry in the Federal Election Commission database showing the contributor, listed occupation, and the value of the contribution (largish if it makes it into a public database).

    These characters have generated a great deal of confusion.

  • Does anyone recall the “Catholics for Kerry” blog? Crisis published a brief note about the moderator, then on the staff of the U.S. Catholic Conference. Thus exposed, he was dismissed, much to the consternation of the National Catholic Reporter. In the intervening years, he landed on his feet:

    http://www.sacredheart.edu/academics/collegeofartssciences/academicdepartments/philosophytheologyreligiousstudies/religiousstudies/facultystaff/onoekehphd/

  • Both parties have the same agenda. Oppression of the poor and marginalized militarism and eugenics through abortion and disease escalation against the poor. We need to eliminate the 1% control over our government.

  • Rubbish. “Disease escalation against the poor” is a fitting coda to this congealed rubbish.

  • John S, just compare two Administrations, Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama, in terms of employment, average household incomes, extent of taxation on workers’ pay, revenue to the Federal treasury from taxes, national debt, and American security and see if there is no difference between the two agendas.

Electoral Defeat-1780

Thursday, November 8, AD 2012

 

 

“For I must do it justice;  it was a complete system, full of coherence and consistency, well digested and well composed in all its parts.   It was a machine of wise and deliberate contrivance, as well fitted for the oppression, impoverishment and degradation of a people, and the debasement of human nature itself, as ever proceeded from the perverted ingenuity of man.”

(I originally wrote this post in the wake of Obama’s election four years ago.  It tells the story of how the great Edmund Burke suffered electoral defeat in 1780 for standing up for principle.  It reminds us that fighting for that which one believes in, no matter the outcome at the polls, is never a real defeat over time.)

So wrote Edmund Burke, brilliant writer and member of Parliament, of the Catholic penal laws in the Eighteenth Century.  Son of a Protestant father and a Catholic mother, suspected in his lifetime, probably incorrectly, of being a secret Catholic, Burke was a man who fought during his life for many causes:  reform in Parliament, support for Americans in their fight against oppression by the English government, prosecution of Warren Hastings for his misrule in India, his crusade against the French Revolution, all these and more engaged his formidable intellect and his luminous pen.  However, one cause he championed from the beginning of his career to the end of it:  relief for Catholics in Ireland and England from the Penal Laws.

What were the Penal Laws?  A series of statutes dating from the time of Queen Elizabeth I, and codified and harshened after the so-called Glorious Revolution in England in 1688, to transform Irish Catholics into helots in their own land and to keep English Catholics a despised and helpless minority.  Burke summarized the penal laws nicely in a speech to his Bristol constituents on September 6, 1780:

A statute was fabricated in the year 1699, by which the saying mass (a church service in the Latin tongue, not exactly the same as our liturgy, but very near it, and containing no offence whatsoever against the laws, or against good morals) was forged into a crime, punishable with perpetual imprisonment. The teaching school, an useful and virtuous occupation, even the teaching in a private family, was in every Catholic subjected to the same unproportioned punishment. Your industry, and the bread of your children, was taxed for a pecuniary reward to stimulate avarice to do what Nature refused, to inform and prosecute on this law. Every Roman Catholic was, under the same act, to forfeit his estate to his nearest Protestant relation, until, through a profession of what he did not believe, he redeemed by his hypocrisy what the law had transferred to the kinsman as the recompense of his profligacy. When thus turned out of doors from his paternal estate, he was disabled from acquiring any other by any industry, donation, or charity; but was rendered a foreigner in his native land, only because he retained the religion, along with the property, handed down to him from those who had been the old inhabitants of that land before him.

Does any one who hears me approve this scheme of things, or think there is common justice, common sense, or common honesty in any part of it? If any does, let him say it, and I am ready to discuss the point with temper and candor. But instead of approving, I perceive a virtuous indignation beginning to rise in your minds on the mere cold stating of the statute.”

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  • Regarding the Relief Act of 1791, the Sheriff Court Books of Ayr show a flurry of people taking the oath in late September 1807. A lineal ancestor of mine did so on Monday 14 September. This pattern is repeated throughout the country.

    I believe the reason for this is that they had probably just received news of the death of the Cardinal Duke of York (Bonnie Prince Charlie’s brother), which took place at Frascati on the 17 July, bring the direct Stuart line to an end. Many Scottish Catholics had religious scruples about acknowledging “the Elector of Brunswick-Luneberg” as king, in the lifetime of “King Henry the First and Ninth,” as they would have called the Cardinal Duke, after his brother’s death in 1788.

  • “If, from this conduct, I shall forfeit their suffrages at an ensuing election, it will stand on record an example to future representatives of the Commons of England, that one man at least had dared to resist the desires of his constituents when his judgment assured him they were wrong”.

    Taking Edmund Burke’s eloquence out of context and applying it to the result of Nov. 6, 2012; Mitt Romney, due to both his support of the Constitution of this republic and his desire to repair its economy, could say much the same. It seems that in 2012, we are in the pre-Penal Law stage of history being repeated given the admin’s treatment of Catholic population. In light of the Middle Eastern and African oppression of Catholics, for whom Pope Benedict asks prayer, there is cause for grave concern.

  • This is why I enjoy TAC. Masterfully you bring out the history that aptly fits into today.

    ….we lost all measure between means and ends and our headlong desires became our politics and our morals.

    Blue state mentality.

Some In Mainstream Media In Full Anti-Catholic Meltdown Mode

Thursday, February 23, AD 2012

Some in the mainstream media are so angry about the existence of faithful Catholics that they can’t help themselves in becoming unhinged. I will reference the main points, but suffice to say that I could write a book on the subject. These latest quotes have caused me to scramble to get information to my editor so as to include at least some of this in my upcoming book; The Tide Continues To Turn Toward Catholicism, a follow up to my first book.  For starters it seems some in mainstream media are so ignorant of religion that even though 90% of Americans belong to some form of Christianity, Judaism and Islam, which all believe that evil is manifested through a figure known as Satan, the media still finds it in their power to mock anyone who thinks evil exists. Some in the media seemed to take glee in pouncing on Catholic and former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum. He was called a kook, a nut, deranged, a mullah and an ayatollah, not by nameless posters on leftwing blogs but named writers in serious newspapers.

Leading the charge was that maven of militant secularism and angry people everywhere Maureen Dowd. Here are some of the spoiled nuggets from her dung heap. She calls Santorum a “mullah” who wants to take, “women back to the caves.” She goes on to deride anyone who actually believes in the teachings of the Catholicism that she once practiced.

Never one to miss a chance at apostasy and heresy; Chris Matthews entered the fray with both of his tingling legs.   Matthews claimed the reason the Catholic Church is growing is because homophobic converts are coming into the Church. It would appear that Mr. Matthews is off his meds. Has anyone ever informed mister leg tingler that groups like Courage; the Apostolate run by those who are same sex attracted, is a rapidly growing organization with men and women from all walks of life? They feel the comfort and assurance of living in God’s chaste plan for their lives. The New York Times of all papers did a favorable story on Eve Tushnet, a popular Catholic writer who has ties to the group. She is a successful woman and an Ivy League grad. Are these militant secularists going to claim that she is homophobic?

David Gergen and Donna Brazile (who is Catholic) didn’t take any pot shots at Catholics per see but did point out that liberal feminist organizations didn’t seem smitten with any of the GOP candidates, because they kept talking about religious liberty instead of the rights of birth control? David Gergen even said it with a straight face, which should really frost Rush Limbaugh who has dubbed the Washington establishmentarian; David Rodham Gergen. As much as they refer to the New York Times, they somehow missed Ross Douthat’s op-ed piece on the growth of Natural Family Planning and the number of women who help teach this non birth control view of family planning across the country and world.

The coup de grace of hate came from David Waldman who writes for a number of publications. This little nugget would make the Know Nothing Party of the 1840s smile. I would rather not give him the pleasure of repeating such delusional hatred; if you want to read his screed click here.   UPDATE In a Lisa Miller Washington Post article just out; Ms. Miller not only mocks Catholics but calls bishops “zealots” three times in her article.

If the Catholic Church is so irrelevant why would the likes of Dowd, Matthews and Waldman froth at the mouth at her beliefs? The simple answer is the Catholic Church is growing while their favorite liberal religious bodies are not only dying on the vine, but shriveling in a complete statistical freefall. Catholics and Evangelicals continue to increase in numbers which drive these mouthpieces of militant secularism nuts.

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  • “22 Blessed are you when men hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. 23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven. For that is how their fathers treated the prophets.” St. Luke

    Love them with Christian charity. Instruct them. Admonish them. Counsel them. For as long as they live, and we pray and set good examples through good works and prayer, they may come to a better “mind.”

    They are infallibly ignorant. We will annoy them!

  • I think this might be more ignorance of the culpable variety. Though their consciences are so scarred by their support for abortion and their reduction of Catholic social teaching to the perverse “social justice” variety that their culpability is likely lessened.

    Though culpable they remain. Their souls are at risk and we should weep for them.

    Fast and pray.

  • Iam one of the faithful but I also am becoming a Militant Catholic tired of the Bidens Pelosi,, Sebilius, Mathews,Kerry, and any other that publicly denounces the teachings of our faith.Heres a thought find another Religion one moe to your liking if you dont like the churches teachings LEAVE by the way why are they not EXCOMMUNICATED!

  • No, no, no, you’re not going to get me this time, Dave! I’ve fallen for the “link to a Maureen Dowd column” virus before. One click, and it fills your computer screen with gibberish.

  • Phillip,

    I think you are correct.

    They may be like the seeds that fell among thorn bushes. They hear the Gospel, but love of power, riches and/or the state chokes the Word. They do not bear fruit. Also, they may like be weeds the enemy sowed among wheat. (Matthew 13: 18 – 30; Mark 4: 13 – 20; Luke 8: 11 – 15)

    Their appropriate Bishops need to ex-communicate such persons out of charity to try to save their souls.

    I looked it up. Ex-communication is a reproach more than a punishment. The rite concludes with, “We exclude him from the bosom of our Holy Mother the Church and we judge him condemned to eternal fire with Satan and his angels and all the reprobate, so long as he will not burst the fetters of the demon, do penance and satisfy the Church.” The priest: Closes the book. Rings a bell – symbolizes the toll of death. Extinguishes the candle – symbolizes the removal from the sight of God.

    OTOH, interdict is a punishment.

    They need prayers. Sadly, I have many more needful of prayers.

    Pinky, I stopped following links after having to replace a lap top and a flat-screen TV.

  • Ann Coulter’s latest column, entitled “What’s Their Problem With Romney?”, disparages the other candidates including the “crusading Catholic who can’t seem to move the conversation past contraception”.

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  • “mainstream media” (sic)

    The DLEMM – Dominant Liberal Establishment Mass Media – does not reflect mainstream thought. Referring to the DLEMM as “mainstream” is inaccurate and a mistake. Liberals are not mainstream.

  • Here’ a bit from Nancy Pelosi talking about how the Church should not complain about the mandate as there has been no enforcement by the Church of the ban on contraception. There is a logic to her heresy. Let this awaken the bishops from their long slumber.

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pelosi-catholic-church-has-not-enforced-its-teaching-contraception

  • May I add my voice: I too am tired of Catholic bashing! I heard that some time ago in Canada there was a porn shop that neighbors objected to. Many of them put religious medals inside the cracks of the brick walls, and after some time the building burnt down by no apparent reason. My tought would be to send green scapulers and/or miraculous medals to all who hate the Catholic Faith with praying on our part to change their ways. I have done something simular to that in leaving such materials on job sites. May our Great Nation be filled with coversions to our Great Faith…..

  • Grandpa Dave, I like your ideas. Also Dave Hartline, great post! You are always so on target.

  • T. Shaw,
    “22 Blessed are you when men hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. 23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven. For that is how their fathers treated the prophets.” St. Luke
    “…and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man.” I believe Jesus bent down and wrote the name of the Pharisees trying to stone Magdalene. A person’s name is the BEST thing and the WORST thing anybody can say about a person. Congress tried to “BORK” Clarence Thomas. Obamacare. It may be that Obamacare is the best thing anybody can say about Obama’s presidency and that Obama’s constitutency has to go to hell because of the way Obama practices the corporal and spiritual works of mercy. It has occurred to me that the reason that the Media oppresses the Catholic Church with such vitriol, slander and lies, is simply because the administration, our culture, Obama and Pelosi and the like, have done and are doing nothing good to speak of. “infallible ignorance” is not an oxymoron, but the path of Obama’s adminstration. The picture of Dorian Gray is hanging in the White House, and the Emporer’s New Clothes are being advertized in the Media.

  • My friends prayer is most needed after reading other sites (and the comments left) who linked to this story. Those sites are hardly in our corner and though they mock us, if you read between the lines the anger is really vented at God Himself. Why you might ask? Sadly, arrogance, vanity, and pride makes some think they know better than God. We must never back down from them, but we must also never stop praying for them!

  • Dave, you are bang-on, as always.

    But this awkward fact remains — many Catholics and other Christians voted for the present administration, despite their then-obvious hatred of the faith, of this nation, and of civilized discourse. Why, why, why?

  • “many Catholics and other Christians voted for the present administration, despite their then-obvious hatred of the faith, of this nation, and of civilized discourse. Why, why, why?”

    Well, in 2008 the current administration-to-be’s “obvious” hatred of all things good may have been obvious to committed Catholics, evangelicals, and conservatives who frequent blogs like this and make it a point to judge all candidates by their record on moral issues. However, it was NOT so obvious to people outside of our traditional/conservative circles who had to rely upon the mainstream media for most of what they knew. We cannot assume that what is obvious to us is obvious to everyone else.

    That said, I think THIS time around the situation is much more obvious to everyone. When EVERY single U.S. bishop speaks out against the HHS mandate and a long procession of noted evangelical Protestants joins the effort, it’s pretty hard to ignore that. Plus there is an actual record of what Obama has done as an executive (rather than a legislator) to point to.

    I will concede that it MIGHT have been possible for a sincere (but not conservative) Catholic who wasn’t involved in the pro-life movement to persuade themselves in 2008 that voting for Obama (with McCain as the alternative) wouldn’t be so bad. I DO NOT think they have that excuse this time around.

  • Mack thanks for the kind words, and yes too many of the faithful voted and are still smitten with the Left’s agenda. It is as old as time itself, the belief that you can outsmart God and common sense and somehow everything will turn out just fine. It kinda reminds of two drunks at a party upset that anyone thinks they are drunk. By their strong and slurring protestations they think they can prove their sobriety. However, everyone knows the truth. Sadly, we have a lot of drunks at the party right now. However, the dawn is fast approaching and so is the hangover!

  • Elaine, just saw your post. Good point!

  • If something similar to the Q’ran burning fiasco aand concomitant murders of four US service members had occurred in 2004, it would have been 24/7 MSM shrieking “Bush must go!”

    In 2012, it’s crickets . . .

  • I see by the comments here that mutual masturbation is not considered a sin among the faithful.

  • You know I find this rather fascinating that we have so many non believers who read this site. It reminds me of all those converted atheists and agnostics who said there was a strange pull that kept them coming to religious sites. Unbeknownst to them, it was their conscience which they had tried to erase but God kept bringing up. I believe it was Mark Shea who said something to the effect that; if these atheists thought we believed in nothing why would they care? They don’t make fun of pagans worshipping Thor or Isis; yet they have to mock us with little juvenile comments that they learned in 8th grade. Very telling.

  • It is hard to spell atheist Dave without l-o-s-e-r. Most atheists are very angry people and troll atheists tend to be among the angriest of a very bitter group. A truly pathetic way to live.

Gerry Connolly: Former Seminarian-Democrat Congressman-Anti-Catholic Bigot

Friday, February 17, AD 2012

Hattip to Chris Johnson at Midwest Conservative Journal.  Johnson is a non-Catholic who has taken up the cudgels so frequently for the Church that I have named him Defender of the Faith. 

Gerry Connolly, (D.VA.), graduated from Maryknoll Preparatory Seminary in Illinois in 1971.  Rather than becoming a priest, he, fortunately for the Church, became involved in politics.  In 2008 he was elected to the House.  In 2010 he was re-elected by fewer than a thousand votes.  (Better luck to the unfortunate constituents of Mr. Connolly this year.)  Although he purportedly is a Catholic, he has routinely engaged in Catholic bashing as a political tool.  In his race for the House in 2008 he played the anti-Catholic card against his Republican opponent:

House minority leader John Boehner is urging Democratic leaders to stop a vicious anti-Catholic smear campaign against Republican congressional candidate Keith Fimian, who is challenging Democrat Gerry Connolly for a rare open seat in Virginia’s 11th District. All 157 Catholics currently serving in the House, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi, should join their 25 Catholic colleagues in the Senate to denounce this vile attempt to denigrate their fitness for office.

Postcards mailed to voters on behalf of Connolly by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) portray the Fairfax County businessman as anti-women because he sits on the board of Legatus, a group of traditional Catholic CEOs founded by Domino’s Pizza magnate Tom Monaghan and endorsed by the late Pope John Paul II. Catholic League president Bill Donohue condemned the scurrilous ads as blatant “Catholic bashing” and demanded that Connolly publicly denounce them. Instead, the Democrat repeated the smears on TV.

It goes without saying of course that the CINO (Catholic in Name Only) Connolly is a complete pro-abort and a big supporter of Planned Parenthood.  Connolly can always be relied upon as a tame Catholic to defend the Obama administration from critics pointing out obvious anti-Catholic bias.

Thus it was no surprise that Connolly, at yesterday’s hearing on the HHS Mandate, belittled the witnesses who appeared to protest the infringement of the Mandate on religious liberty:

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  • I noticed quite a while ago that the most venomously hateful anti-Catholics are those raised Catholic. The Jews have the phenomenon of the “self-hating Jew” but I don’t know that we can speak of “self-hating Catholics,” since the Catholic anti-Catholics seem to have very high opinions of themselves. (Unlike us, they “see though” the Church.) Really, I’ve heard one-time Catholics go off on tirades that make Jack Chick sound like Little Mary Sunshine. Unfortunately, because the bigots were raised Catholic, outsiders can get the idea that they know what they are talking about.

  • Why are Obama and Connolly talking about contraception, ending the health care scourge that are children, “why I hate Catholics”, etc.?

    Because they don’t want you to notice America is going bankrupt until there’s nothing left for them to steal.

  • I know the following is Godwin’s, but I can’t resist:

    “But he was a seminarian!”

    “So was Stalin.”

  • “…we were denied, on this side of the aisle, any witness who might have a differing point of view. And I think that’s shameful.”
    Did he stomp his foot too? What a whiner.

  • If Obamacare could heal the sick and raise the dead, participation must still be freely chosen to acknowledge the free will of the individual person to say: “THANK YOU, NO” Persons whose free will is not acknowedged are enslaved. Slaves are not citizens and do not vote. Remember to vote against your slave master.

  • ‘ to testify about your rights being trampled on — an overstatement if there ever was one — while you’re on a panel, and your participation on the panel makes you complicit in of course the trampling of freedom, because we were denied, on this side of the aisle, any witness who might have a differing point of view. And I think that’s shameful.” ‘

    Just like a trained attack dog. And they had to listen to what he thinks, not call him on what he’s doing to bring them there. Bailouts were the first order of business back when, causing spin enough to get minds too dizzy to watch where the cash waves crashed. Now, passions for the 1st Amendment problem will leave little left for the rest of coming Constitutional and financial trouble. God help those who try to stem the tide by ‘depriving’ anyone. Exec Branch has cried foul over any opposition creating stalemates to build its reputation for getting things done. They call the legislative branch do nothings. Now they scorn Religion on the front burner, while doing what with mammon.

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One Picture Says It All

Saturday, February 4, AD 2012

Hattip to Ed Morrissey at Hot Air.  The cartoonist Michael Ramirez neatly encapsulates why the Obama administration seethes with hostility against the Church.   Governments that decide that they are the True Faith inevitably come into conflict with the actual True Faith, as the history of the Church constantly illustrates.  I doubt if President Obama has studied that history yet.  Let us give him ample opportunity in retirement to do so, beginning in 2013.

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  • Liberals are pathologically vicious. They do not tolerate beliefs or institutions that oppose their uber-evil agenda.

    “The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.” Camus

    Peace and justice are generally by such scoundrels to gull catholic Liberal votes.

  • But he is a good Christian, he must know the history of the Church?

  • If the best the Republican Party can do is Mitt Romney, then you better make that 2017.

  • No Zach, for the good of the country and the Church, even if it is Romney a/k/a the Weathervane, I better do my best to make that 2013.

  • Karl, Obama a good Christian????….you can’t be serious… the man is a Muslim….his philanderer father’s family are all Muslims. His life history does not reveal that he has ever studied the History of the Catholic Church…and you know the agenda of Muslims…the Kafirs and Infidels must be vanguished…and in that category, the main target is the Catholic Church

  • Mary, I don’t think Obama is a secret Muslim. Obama’s religion is Me, Myself and I. Oh, and Statism. He can’t come out and say he’s an atheist, but I think that’s what he is.

  • The main obstacle to liberal devolution is the remnant of the Church that is not the Democrat party pretending to pray.

    The Church’s teachings of morality and objective Truth are the main lines of resistance to state mind control. So, the Church must be destroyed.

    Vote to destroy Holy Mother Church. Vote demokratic.

  • In one of his memoirs, Obama uses the Old Testament story of Abraham and Isaac to argue that secularism equals “reason” and religion equals “crazy caprice”, and proceeds with the analogy anyways, summing up his sermon on the superiority of secularism to religion by writing that the “best we can do is act in accordance with those things that are possible for all of us to know.”
    Also Kierkegaard quoted this story,saying that the particular had the primacy over universal, over the truth, the moral truths-nonnegotiable issues.
    But this is not complete. The angel was there not to let Abraham perform the sin.
    It was not the case of Judas. In fact, he killed the innocent, but he acknowledged also that an angel was there to stop him. He saw that the moral law was there to help, to avoid to kill. He did not pray.

Occupy Bigots

Tuesday, January 31, AD 2012

 

 

It seems as if segments of the Occupy Wall Street Movement hate both the Catholic Church and the pro-life movement:

Demonstrators from the Occupy Wall Street movement threw condoms on Catholic schoolgirls, refused to allow a Catholic priest to give a closing prayer, and shouted down a pro-life speaker at a Rhode Island right to life rally on Thursday, according to its organizer. The event marked the third time protesters associated with the movement have disrupted a pro-life meeting in a week.

About two-dozen members of Occupy Providence hiked from Burnside Park to the 39th Annual Pro-Life State House Rally organized by the Rhode Island State Right to Life Committee on Thursday.

The pro-life organization’s executive director, Barth E. Bracy, told LifeSiteNews.com that, near the end of the rally, the Occupiers “strategically fanned out with military precision.”

That’s when they “started showering condoms down on some of the girls from a Catholic high school.”

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Bishop Jenky, Saint Michael and the Obama Administration

Monday, January 30, AD 2012

My Bishop, Daniel Jenky, in reaction to the Obama administration’s attempt to restrict Catholic religious freedom through its contraceptive regulations, has called for the addition of the Saint Michael Prayer in the intercessory petitions at Mass.  The intention of the prayer is for Catholic freedom in America.

 

January 24, 2012

My dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

In this history of the United States, Friday, January 20, 2012 will certainly stand out as a moment of enormous peril for religious liberty. On that day, the Obama administration announced regulations that would require Catholic institutions to offer insurance programs providing abortifacients, sterilization, and contraceptive services. If these regulations are put into effect, the could close down every Catholic school, hospital, and the other public ministries of our Church, which is perhaps their underlying intention. What is perfectly clear is that this is a bigoted and blatant attack on the First Amendment rights of every Catholic believer. Under no circumstances, however, will our Church ever abandon our unshakable commitment to the Gospel of Life.

I therefore call upon all the faithful of the Diocese to vigorously oppose this unprecedented governmental assault upon the moral convictions of our Faith. Under the Constitution, no president has the authority to require our cooperation with what we consider to be intrinsic evil and mortal sin. We must therefore oppose by every means at our disposal this gross infringement on the rights of Catholic citizens to freely practice our religion. This country once fought a revolution to guarantee freedom, but the time has clearly arrived to strongly reassert our fundamental human rights. I am honestly horrified that the nation I have always loved has come to this hateful and radical step in religious intolerance. I hope and pray that all people of good will would support the faith based resistance of us their Catholic neighbors.

While it is primarily the laity who should take the leading role in political and legal action, as your Bishop, it is my clear responsibility to summon our local church into spiritual and temporal combat in defense of Catholic Christianity. Have faith! Have courage! Fight boldly for what you believe! I strongly urge you not to be intimidated by extremist politicians or the malice of the cultural secularists arrayed against us. Always remember that the One who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world (I John 4:4).

Until these grave issues are favorably resolved, I ask that every parish, school, hospital, Newman Center, and religious house in this Diocese insert the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel into the Sunday General Intercessions just before their concluding prayer. It is God’s invincible Archangel who commands the heavenly hosts, and it is the enemies of god who will ultimately be defeated. This prayer should be announced as: A Prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel for the freedom of the Catholic Church in America.

May God guide and protect his Holy Church.

Sincerely yours in Christ,

Most Reverend Daniel R. Jenky, CSC Bishop of Peoria

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  • The Lord Jesus Christ wins in the end. He always has. He always will. I pray for Him to send His Archangel Michael to help us in this battle against sexual depravity, wholesale human slaughter, and the abasement of all that it measn to have been created in the image and likeness of God Himself.

    Sancte Michael Archangele,
    defende nos in proelio;
    contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium.
    Imperet illi Deus, supplices deprecamur:
    tuque, Princeps militiae Caelestis,
    satanam aliosque spiritus malignos,
    qui ad perditionem animarum pervagantur in mundo,
    divina virtute in infernum detrude.
    Amen.

  • In 2008, complete and utter idiots such as myself knew this was coming.

  • Then I am in august company with you, T Shaw. I am proudly an idiot.

  • Pray for the best.

    Be Prepared.

  • “Pray for the best. Be Prepared.”

    “A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”

    It is said that those words came from George Washington. I have a mini 14 in my closet that I haven’t used in years, and ammunition stored in an otherwise unused jewelry box. I hope and pray to God that it doesn’t come to that. Both Sacred Scripture and history say otherwise.

    ?”I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.” Luke 17:34-37

    This isn’t a prediction of the Rapture as so many Evangelicals and Pentecostals think. Rather, it’s a prediction of what Caesar does and those who are left behind are the lucky ones.

    Think about it. What did the Nazis do? They came in the night exactly as Jesus describes and took one while leaving the other. And the disciples ask where this would occur. Jesus response: where the body is, there the eagles will gather. And wasn’t the golden eagle the bird of prey displayed above the SPQR (Senatus Populusque Romae) banners? In His life on Earth in the early 1st century AD, Jesus saw those banners every place where Roman soldiers came to take away people to be tortured and crucified. One was taken and one was left behind. And did not the Nazis have similar banners of the swastika with the emblem of a golden eagle above? And what exactly is the US national emblem that sits above the American flag? Not the golden eagle, to be sure, but an eagle nonetheless – the bald eagle, even more regal and royal.

    “And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.” Remember: the eagles now serve Obama.

  • Good Shepherd there in Peoria. We have to realize that it’s up to all of us.

    And this one too, T. Shaw, standing up after the Sermon week after week, year after year, saying the Profession of Faith, … maker of Heaven and Earth, of all things seen and u n s e e n (visable and i n v i s a b l e)… , never imagining beyond Roe v. Wade, degeneration, and political correctness tyranny how pervasive, soon or quickly the evil powers prowl and gather for attack. Too much nap time.

    Faith, not fear, they’ll get it. Fish, hunt, garden, and farm – work w/ prayer in heart.

  • “Until these grave issues are favorably resolved, I ask that every parish, school, hospital, Newman Center, and religious house in this Diocese insert the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel into the Sunday General Intercessions just before their concluding prayer.”

    About a year ago, Bp. Thomas Paprocki gave parishes in the Diocese of Springfield (Ill.) official authorization to recite the St. Michael Prayer at the END of Mass, right after the dismissal. Although it is optional (not mandatory) it’s been done at every parish Mass I have attended in the last year. Here’s what the Bishop had to say at the time:

    “One of Satan’s greatest assets is his camouflage, the belief that he doesn’t exist. Disbelief in Satan and the forces of evil leave us unable to resist them. That is why it is good to remember the Prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel. We need to remember that each time we pray we work to defeat our real enemies, not each other, but rather the devil and his evil spirits.”

  • Paul, the quote you say may have been said by Washington has been floating around the internet for some time. It is a corruption of this quote from Washington’s first State of the Union:

    “A free people ought not only to be armed but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well digested plan is requisite: And their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories, as tend to render them independent on others, for essentials, particularly for military supplies.”

    I would further note that the proper way to deal with the Obama administration is to defeat Obama at the polls in November. Peaceful organizing and voting is the way that we will deliver our country from the bigots that currently are at the helm of the government.

  • Thanks for the correction, Donald. I agree with about November. But I am pessimistic. I think the media will ensure Obama wins. I hope I am wrong. If I am not, then we can expect the persecutions to start in earnest.

  • AQ will hold off the next big one until after the election. Then, it starts here.

    OWS/Ayers/Black Panther types may run ops emulating their heroes Bernadette Dorhn, Che and mau mau murderers.

    The regime may start a war.

    This time, we are the fish in the sea.

    Thank God strong patriots for 75 years stood tall and stopped them from disarming us.

    There ain’t enough bullets.

  • The fish in the sea – an tenuous analogy:
    Last night on New England cable news a brief clip about ~100 dolphins beaching and dying on the shores of Massachusetts Cape in the past few weeks with no known cause.
    Dolphins are such beautiful communicators.

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  • Oops, I meant that if we are the fish in the sea, then look what could happen. Their washing up on shore struck me as back up to the idea, and thought it was tenuous back up. Should have just said, at least we aren’t fish in a pond yet. Or, I agree.

  • Paul, do not be pessimistic about a defeat of Obama in the Polls. Donald is right…..Now that Pope Benedict XVI has fired the First Shot, Obama’s win is in mortal danger….As I have stated elsewhere, no Empire, no Power on Earth ever arrogantly attacked the Catholic Church as Obama has done and survived. Unless Obama goes, America will soon be History like the Roman Empire and the Nazis. This is one War which the Catholic Church is going to win, and win big time. Obama and his cohorts are the High Priest of Satan and he will soon be crushed. The Church on Earth and in Heaven will consign him to where he belongs – dustbin

  • While I agree with you, Mary, I fear the bloodshed that may come. Robespierre killed tens of thousands of people at the guillotine, many Roman Catholic Bishops and Priests, in the name of Liberty, Equality and Fraternity in the France of the 1790s.

  • Paul, if this is the only way Obama has left us to obey God’s Divine Law and protect His Kingdom, so be it…..yes, thousands will die….Christ Faithful have died in their millions these 2000+ years…Jesus did not promise us smooth sailing….He promised us the Cross, persecutions and unrelenting attacks from the Evil One….but He promised us Victory because He had won it for us on the Cross. This is the time the Church Militant must stand up their ground and fight…let every Catholic Faithful join the combat without fear of the Obama dragon….defy this unjust Edict and stand firm because God is fighting for His Kingdom which Obama wants to destroy.