The Search for the Historical Trump

 

The documents say what they say and cannot be added to; each new ‘historical Jesus’ therefore has to be got out of them by suppression at one point and exaggeration at another, and by that sort of guessing (brilliant is the adjective we teach humans to apply to it) on which no one would risk ten shillings in ordinary life,  but which is enough to produce a crop of new Napoleons, new Shakespeares, and new Swifts, in every publisher’s autumn list.

CS Lewis, The Screwtape Letters

 

 

 

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Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Sunday, December 22, AD 2024 5:13am

Wow! The sources of Trump’s history on Twitter / X seem like the Documentary Hypothesis which the notes in the Katholyck NABRE and almost every modern Katholyck Study Bible (except Scott Hahn’s new real Catholic Ignatius Study Bible) espouse for authorship the Pentateuch (regardless that our Blessed Lord said otherwise about the Torah). For those who don’t know about the heresy to which modern Katholyck scholarship adheres, read below this summary from Google AI (which appears accurate and is exactly what the notes in the NABRE used for the Lectionary say):

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The Documentary Hypothesis is a theory that the first five books of the Bible, known as the Pentateuch, were written by multiple authors, rather than a single author like Moses. The theory is also known as the JEDP hypothesis, after the four major strands of literary traditions that are thought to have been woven together to create the Torah: 

  • J: The Jahwist or Jerusalem source, which was active in the southern Kingdom of Judah. J is responsible for most of Genesis, including the second creation account and the story of Adam.
  • E: The Elohist or Ephraimitic source, which was active in the northern Kingdom of Israel. E wrote the Aqedah story, parts of Genesis, and much of Exodus and Numbers.
  • D: Deuteronomistic: A third strand of tradition that purports Deuteronomy is a later addition to the Torah not authored by Moses.
  • P: Priestly: A fourth strand of tradition that accounts for a separate authorship of Leviticus.

The Documentary Hypothesis was most famously formulated by the German scholar Julius Wellhausen in the 19th century. For most of the 20th century, it was almost universally accepted by biblical scholars. However, some have questioned the validity of the Documentary Hypothesis, suggesting that the simplest explanation is likely the best.

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Here’s the thing, Folks: liberals whether in politics or in the Church are liars. They fabricate history and promote fiction as the account of what has happened in the past. Furthermore, it is with equal disdain and contempt that I despise, abhor, and loathe modern post Vatican II Katholyck Biblical scholarship and modern history telling. I also despise Novus Ordo and the Katholyck NABRE.

David WS
David WS
Sunday, December 22, AD 2024 6:21am

I found a reference, in the archives of this obscure planet.

Never give up! Never surrender!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ2hJezvd2I

Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Sunday, December 22, AD 2024 10:14am

I don’t think there’s another political figure that comes close to Trump in their ability to seize the moment.

Pinky
Pinky
Sunday, December 22, AD 2024 12:02pm

Eh, Trump was probably completely made up by some monks 500 years from now.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Sunday, December 22, AD 2024 1:59pm

Why don’t we ask George Stephanopoulos as to the historical Trump? I’m sure he has 15 million reasons to lower his head and excuse himself from the request. Or, he just might double down and regurgitate his sloppy liberal diatribe.
He would do the latter, is my guess.

John Flaherty
John Flaherty
Sunday, December 22, AD 2024 7:22pm

Lucius, I haven’t read Scott Hahn in some time. How does he treat authorship of the Pentateuch in contrast with Documentary Hypothesis?

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Monday, December 23, AD 2024 5:46am

John Flaherty,

Moses was the primary author of the Torah as Jesus stated repeatedly in the Gospels. For example, he didn’t write the account of his death at the end of Deuteronomy; probably Joshua wrote that. And he likely made use of prior stories and traditions, particularly in the Genesis accounts of Creation, the Flood, the Tower of Babel, Sodom and Gomorrah, etc. Finally, the entire five book volume of the Torah was probably compiled and edited in the Second Temple period to restore much of what was lost in the Babylonian invasion and destruction of the First Temple. But the J, E, D, and P theory that denies Mosaic authorship is false.

Get the new Bible here or on Amazon or at Christian Book dot com.

https://stpaulcenter.com/bible/?srsltid=AfmBOorosrAnBfwzeS8xFXBpbBj9Av7u1TmX1XIyTwwQS_yzeFd1khUO

This is well worth every penny; it has none of that heretical Katholyck NABRE / USCCB nonsense.

Oh, BTW, here is a You Tube video by a conservative Methodist apologist living here in Cahrlotte, NC who gives an unbiased look at the essays in this study Bible. He admits to his prejudices, but he gives a great review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bXvQqWDOfc

And here is his interview by one of the Catholic contributers to this study Bible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrkVAvxf9ls&t=588s

One last thing: thank God for Scott Hahn and his staff; a welcome breath of fresh air to blow away the fetid stink of USCCB sewage. Every NABRE should be burned into oblivion.

Frank
Frank
Monday, December 23, AD 2024 7:14am

Seconding LQC’s recommendation of the new Ignatius Catholic Study Bible. I sort of wish there hadn’t been a “Second Edition” of the RSV-Catholic Edition, as they’ve “modernized” some of the old style language I personally prefer (I don’t like making Scripture read more like everyday conversation, it should look and sound different—as in OLD, but that’s just me. I can still go read my Challoner Douay-Rheims for a solid dose of ancient usages.) That said, the commentary is still marvelous, and mostly devoid of the Modernism and “historical-critical” methodology that pervades everything coming from the UselessCCB. Highly recommended. Planning to work my way through the Major Prophets this coming Lent.

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