Jimmy’s Speech

 

Mary Flock, the Principal of the school, has decided not to return during the next school year.

 

 

 

 

 

It takes special talent to turn a nothing burger of an issue into a raging controversy.

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Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Wednesday, June 12, AD 2024 4:04am

…. serious violations of Christian code of conduct. 🤔

Is SBS one of those milk toast, Catholic in name only, indoctrination centers? It would make sense bc a serious infraction against such institutions is speaking truth.

In this case I’m guessing that the Trump colors, lingo and brand are just a little too much for the milk toast school. A serious violation if your board is predominantly cafeteria Catholics who see nothing wrong with Joe the good Catholic and plan on supporting him come November.

That violation has nothing to do with Christ and everything to do with Lucifer.

MrsOpey
MrsOpey
Wednesday, June 12, AD 2024 5:24am

Um, the first place I heard about storg – love of one’s country- was Catholic School.
So, with her gone, are the kids allowed back?

Frank
Frank
Wednesday, June 12, AD 2024 8:27am

Here’s hoping the parents sue that CINO* school into oblivion for anything their lawyer can think of alleging. Also hoping that Bishop Vann, who was regarded as orthodox when in Fort Worth, will step in on the side of the true Faith here. But I’m not holding my breath.

Poor St. Bonaventure. He has probably had more phony Catholicism taught in his name than most other Franciscan saints, apart from St. Francis himself.

(*CINO=Catholic In Name Only)

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, June 12, AD 2024 8:31am

The letter includes the usual nebulous accusations, this time contra the parents.

I’m afraid school administration as a career attracts and retains deeply mediocre people.

As for it being a ‘Catholic school’, time and again members of the chuch-o-cracy demonstrate they’re indistinguishable from other NGO functionaries.

Tom Byrne
Tom Byrne
Wednesday, June 12, AD 2024 10:16am

The old school teacher (who also moderated student government for many years) observes:

  1. The only fault with the speech was its length. We usually kept speeches for all offices but class president to two minutes or less. Yet given the title of the office (which is interesting), I would not have flagged anything in the content.
  2. I would have flagged some things in the poster. We had a strict spending limit on posters and flyers and that looked like it cost a bit to produce. I would also have flagged the allusion to a well-known national campaign slogan. Like or not like a certain candidate, his mention does not belong in a grade school campaign.
  3. Assuming this is the whole story, the principal’s actions are ‘way over the top, especially since she had to have cleared speech and poster before he actually spoke. If he put back in something that had been flagged, that would still be no grounds for expulsion for the kid and even less for his little sister. Departments of Catholic schools have rules on those things (reviewed by their lawyers) and principals do not have infinite leeway (but as we see, they are “at will” employees).
CAG
CAG
Wednesday, June 12, AD 2024 11:13am

The “Parent Electronic Communication Policy“?!?

That must’ve been one whopper of an email they sent! I don’t think they’re getting rid of the kids so much as the parents.

Donald Link
Wednesday, June 12, AD 2024 11:26am

Note “with the support of the Diocese” to back up this nonsense. Dare say the Bishop’s Annual Collection will be a bit light this year.

Tom Byrne
Tom Byrne
Wednesday, June 12, AD 2024 12:31pm

CAG:
Frankly, that’s almost always the case in Catholic grade school expulsions. Short of drug-dealing or weapons, we’ll work with any problem kids if the parents work with us. There is a backstory here we are not getting.

Fr. J
Fr. J
Wednesday, June 12, AD 2024 12:48pm

Huntington Beach is a pretty solidly Republican and pro-Trump city. I have a very good friend who is one of the city officers. Most Catholic schools in southern California are pretty compromised when it comes to the Faith. (I lived there for many years.) St. Bonaventure, the parish at least, was reasonably faithful.

What the family calls “Patriotism” in the speech, the administrators called “negative statements.” This sounds suspiciously like “party line” censorship.

The police were called at some point, mainly because of the boy’s father (not married to the boy’s mother, incidentally). They found no crime had occurred in the altercation between the father and the administrators when wee Jimmy was excluded from the speech making. They were, reportedly, grateful to little Jimmy for the kind and encouraging things he said about the police. (Huntington PD has a good reputation.)

If I were the bishop, first of all I would groan, “Not another ‘Catholic school’ controversy,” and then call in the father, mother, boy, and vice-principal and catechize them all on what the virtue of patriotism is and is not. Then I would order them not to drag “MAGA,” Holocaust “survivors,” World War II interment camps, etc., into student council races. Proh pudor!

Tom Byrne
Tom Byrne
Wednesday, June 12, AD 2024 12:56pm

Fr. J:
The old Catholic school teacher agrees. On the other hand the title for the office sounds almost Wilsonian. Why would a preteen student officer have a role in encouraging patriotism specifically? That almost invites the kind of comments you say don’t belong.
My bottom line is that the kids got caught in cross seas generated by adult clashes and should not be penalized for it.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Wednesday, June 12, AD 2024 11:22pm

Jimmy and his little sister are gorgeous. God Bless them.

Fr. J
Fr. J
Thursday, June 13, AD 2024 11:46am

Tom,
I think that’s exactly right: who even has a “Promoter of Patriotism” (or whatever they called it)? We could barely get people to volunteer for the student council offices, in a graduating class of over 400. Apart from the unkindness toward the boy, I have to laugh a little at the situation. It’s just so screwy.

John Flaherty
John Flaherty
Thursday, June 13, AD 2024 11:53am

I’m not at all sure what TO think about this. There is, I think, I great deal more to this than has been presented. Among other things, …what is a “Commissioner of School Spirit and Patriotism”?? Sounds like a role created to enable “participation”, yet the speech is roughly what I expect for a Student Council President.
I think Mr. Byrne’s second point quite worthwhile too. Campaign materials look like something from a Presidential nomination convention. Such might be almost appropriate–sort of–for a campaign to lead in college. Not appropriate for high school or younger.
As for the obvious reference to a political candidate or campaign, …not so sure I’d forbid that. Many objected to a schoolteacher leading students in a chant about Barack Obama. ..He still won the election. Twice. I get it that we want to avoid having adult acrimony in schools, yet that will only work so far. For one thing, adult acrimony almost always makes its way to kids eventually. We must either allow for discussion and debate–and the acrimony that comes with it–…or begin censorship. We very quickly imperil the First Amendment.
Besides which, Sooner or later, youth will have need to make their own decisions… and suffer consequences accordingly.
All in all, I think there is much more to this than we see here.

John Flaherty
John Flaherty
Thursday, June 13, AD 2024 12:26pm

I should note, perhaps, that I have long been very skeptical about any form of student governance. Certainly the idea of Student Council was introduced to us in elementary school; this was our chance, as students, to participate in democracy.
Yet….
Between 8th grade civics class and a school certification visit, ..I realized the school needed to fit particular standards, regardless of student wishes. Understanding this, the whole premise of Student Council came crashing to the ground, ending in a pile of dust. So did the idea of Boys State. We already know that a group of adults somewhere else has already dictated what we may–or must–learn or do.
For the sake of argument, perhaps we could notice that these means at least expose students to the bare basics of how elections and governance actually work. Perhaps one might become acquainted with parliamentary procedure, with Robert’s Rules. …Trouble is, such knowledge and experience should not be limited to those who view politics as a career option. Every man, every citizen, needs to know this.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, June 13, AD 2024 12:42pm

I don’t care for student government, but that’s not the issue.

I think if there was ‘much more than what we see’ and the behavior of the administration was defensible, you would see something other than mush in the e-mail.

John Flaherty
John Flaherty
Thursday, June 13, AD 2024 1:20pm

“I don’t care for student government, but that’s not the issue.”
It’s not the immediate issue, true, yet it does influence how we view this. Those who deem student government a legitimate concern will be alarmed by the risk of adult-induced acrimony. ..Those disgusted by student government will be much more tolerant of possible conflict amongst the student body.

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