Jordan Peterson and Frederick Kagan

Few men know more about Russia, especially its military history, than Frederick Kagan.

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The Christian Teacher
The Christian Teacher
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 10:01am

The Leftist Bishop of the Little Rock, AR, Catholic Diocese has decided that the “Just War” standards in the Catholic Catechism is a bunch of bovine feces—meaning there is no right of physical self defense for the Ukrainians or anyone else. 🤬🤬🤬. This is ignorance gone to seed.

https://www.dolr.org/article/bishop-issues-statement-about-ukraine

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 10:24am

What Bishop Anthony B. Taylor advocates is this: because Ukraine cannot win a war against Russia, she must surrender. Frack you, Your Grace! And frack Putin too!

J. Ronald Parrish
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 10:35am

Did I understand that this guy was part of the Iraq War policy? How did that work out? The mullah’s of Iran are pleased.

The Catholic Teacher
The Catholic Teacher
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 11:21am

According to Bishop Taylor’s statement above, you could not be a member of the military, carry out your duties, & be just. I don’t know how this guy could make himself more irrelevant!

The Christian Teacher
The Christian Teacher
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 11:23am

Don, I apologize. On my attempted comment above, I put the wrong email address. Here is the comment with the correct email.
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According to Bishop Taylor’s statement above, you could not be a member of the military, carry out your duties, & be just. I don’t know how this guy could make himself more irrelevant!

The Christian Teacher
The Christian Teacher
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 11:32am

Did I understand that this guy was part of the Iraq War policy? How did that work out? The mullah’s of Iran are pleased.
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I don’t know. A few years back Bishop Taylor withdrew all support, which had been in place for 40 years, for the statewide Arkansas Right to Life organization because he would not be on the state with people passing anti-abortion laws who also supported the death penalty for murder.

Then Bishop Taylor promptly attended a public Planned Parenthood event, and appeared on the stage with Planned Parenthood supporters. No. I am not kidding.

SouthCoast
SouthCoast
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 12:44pm

Just FYI, the good news is that Amazon has Kagan’s two-volume work on the history of Russian militarism. The bad news is that it’s $1250. Perhaps, if I am very lucky, it will show up at the local Friends of the Libray bookstore. (Which is where I actually found, after nearly 50 years, the Caedmon LPs of “John Brown’s Body”! I heard it once, on the radio, on a camping trip with my parents, and it never left me.)

Pinky
Pinky
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 1:03pm

“Then Bishop Taylor promptly attended a public Planned Parenthood event”

Five bucks into the poor box says that never happened.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 2:38pm

Five bucks into the poor box says that never happened.

Five bucks says that’s not the most egregious thing this bishop has ever done in full public view.

Pinky
Pinky
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 2:42pm

You’re on.

SouthCoast
SouthCoast
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 2:46pm

Unfortunately, the lines that come too frequently to mind these days are “This is the last, the last, the last…” We never realize our own ephemerality until we are forced to learn our strength.

Pinky
Pinky
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 3:57pm

So Art, four days to post something that Bishop Taylor did in public view that’s worse than attending a Planned Parenthood event. If you do, I’ll put a fiver in the poor box on Sunday. If not, you’ll do so.

The Christian Teacher
The Christian Teacher
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 5:51pm

“Then Bishop Taylor promptly attended a public Planned Parenthood event”

Five bucks into the poor box says that never happened.
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Pinky, I just love it when people who don’t know me accuse me of lying—when they can’t prove it. It was documented by the major prolife organizations in the state. Who should I believe—you? Or the staff of prolife organizations who track planned parenthood in the state & their activities? 😂😂

Pinky
Pinky
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 6:58pm

OK, where’s the documentation? If I’m wrong, then sure, $5 into the poor box, but it just doesn’t sound real. If it was onstage at a fundraiser where one of the other people onstage was a PP executive, then I’d think “sure, it could have happened”. But a Planned Parenthood event? You’ve got to admit you understand why that wouldn’t sound credible.

The Christian Teacher
The Christian Teacher
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 7:08pm

Pinky, I trust the directors of the organizations to tell me the truth. I have worked with them for 40 years. You are the one saying I am lying. Not the other way around. I learned a long time ago not to fall into the trap of trying to prove something to someone who has already said I lied. I will say that you don’t know what you are talking about. And why would I expose others to you so that you can call them a liar?

Pinky
Pinky
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 7:31pm

I didn’t actually call you a liar, at least I don’t think so, but I made a bet, and if this was a public event it should be pretty easy to back it up. There’s a line on the internet, “pics or it didn’t happen”. I don’t know if it did happen, but this wouldn’t be the first time someone maligned a bishop on this site. And that’s the thing, this is a really ugly thing to say about a bishop. Bishops have done bad stuff, but a public accusation against a bishop should be backed up.

SouthCoast
SouthCoast
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 7:50pm

Pinky, AD, just for the record, this is all I found on a “Bishop Taylor Planned Parenthood event” search: https://www.dolr.org/bishop-taylor-statement-planned-parenthood

Peace.

Rudolph Harrier
Rudolph Harrier
Tuesday, March 1, AD 2022 8:15pm

Bishop Taylor’s boycott of the March for Life comes from 2018:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/bishop-skips-arkansas-anti-abortion-rally-cites-executions

His statement from the diocese website on planned parenthood comes from 2015, so it doesn’t affect The Christian Teacher’s timeline. He seems to have attended the March for Life since then

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2022/jan/15/march-for-life-on-track-with-distancing/

but put front and center his support of vaccines and instructed priests to not support religious exemptions for vaccine mandates:

https://dolr.org/article/priests-cant-facilitate-religious-exemption

In his discussion of the vaccines he does not mention the use of fetal cell tissues in the development of the vaccine. This is in contrast with other Catholic analyses which acknowledged that but argued that the cooperation was remote enough that it would not be immoral to take vaccines developed in this way, given the supposedly high threat of COVID-19.

Further investigation shows that he is active in other leftwing political movements, such as LGBT advocacy, “immigration reform” and claiming that Republicans rhetoric is harming women and Hispanics. But I can’t find anywhere he explicitly goes against Catholic teaching (except, arguably, in his overly broad refusal of aid in religious exemptions.) For example his support of the LGBT movement is in terms of saying that gay people have human dignity and should not be abused or driven to suicide, which is true and consistent with Catholic teaching (though notably he is conspicuously silent on the question of homosexual acts.)

All this means is that he is the sort of bishop who would be the one to appear with Planned Parenthood, especially in the context of saying something like “while some of what Planned Parenthood does cannot be supported, they have been great advocates of the health of women in many other ways.” But I cannot find any evidence that he actually did this (though personally I have found enough other issues with the bishop that I frankly no longer care if happened to appear on stage with Planned Parenthood.)

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