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One of the reasons I will not sign an organ donor card.

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Frank
Frank
Sunday, March 2, AD 2025 6:29am

No donor cards here, either. I took a course called “Law and Medicine” with a professor who had practiced both professions, and was one of the participants in that 1968 “brain death” definition. We spent about a third of the semester on the topic, and it was very interesting, but not convincing. The possibility of the patient suddenly waking up is always there, and as seen here, even today, 46 years after that class, we have no way to predict if and when it might happen. Risky business, to say the least. But very lucrative for hospitals.

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Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Sunday, March 2, AD 2025 7:11am

IVF-In Vitro Fertilization
Because IVF-In Vitro Fertilization is the pinnacle of scientific Babel, I must write:
The people begotten, procreated in ice cold petri dishes, frozen in liquid nitrogen, have immortal human souls endowed with free will, reason and sovereign personhood. 
Thankfully some frozen human beings are being adopted and nurtured in a human womb. The people brought to term and born after being frozen in liquid nitrogen are called Snowflake Babies. Some Snowflake Babies are now fifty years old or more. The one I know of through a newspaper article done on her is in England. She is an exceptionally beautiful woman. Her brothers and sisters procreated and frozen may have reached their expiration date and been discarded as human waste.
We will know them in heaven.
The rest of my writing is censored.
Frozen people are not human garbage.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Sunday, March 2, AD 2025 7:18am

Death occurs after about two and one half days when the body begins to decompose and the human soul can no longer abide in the body. Death occurs when the soul leaves the body. Life occurs when the soul is infused and endowed by the Creator.
The government elected by the people cannot deny the existence of the human soul infused at fertilization and procreation…but it does.
Try praying at an abortion clinic.
Joan Andrews Bell has spent many years in a Florida prison for her pro-life work.

CAM
CAM
Sunday, March 2, AD 2025 7:30am

I do not have donor on my driver license. Used to have donor on my driver’s license until my brother, an ER physician told me to get it off. He said some hospitals practice euthanasia. When my mother was in the hospital for a UTI they kept pushing, “Why doesn’t she have a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate). He told the doctors, “No DNR. We and she would want everything possible medical, but no treatment that would cause damage like broken ribs.”

The Bruised Optimist
The Bruised Optimist
Sunday, March 2, AD 2025 8:03am

I used to be a donor. Thought it was the right thing to do, the generous thing.
Then, my faith in the medical people was gradually eroded.

By constant contradiction of what is “unhealthy”
By the increasing willingness to euthanize
By a realization that there is no “moment” of death
By the covid debacle
By my father’s last days screaming for morphine they wouldn’t give for fear of addiction

My hope is that I die outside of a medical facility, but I think God may place me there for a time, for the good of my soul.

The willingness of medical people to be the cause of death – it makes me grieve for men and women who are that lost, and pray that they will not be eternally so.

MikeS
MikeS
Sunday, March 2, AD 2025 8:23am

I dropped organ donor a while ago. My wife has power of attorney, so she can decide if I’m really dead. Stories like this one make me question the morality of accepting an organ donation.

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Monday, March 3, AD 2025 7:21am

Once again, I encourage the interested reader to watch and listen to the following playlist at YouTube by Christian apologist Michael Jones (who I understand is in the process of converting to Catholicism):

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TUjEbz4zD0i_rfGiyB4AGQa&si=mkYyaneDNbknBhb4

Here is a brief summary about Mr. Jones:

https://inspiringphilosophy.org/about-our-founder/

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Elaine Krewer
Admin
Monday, March 3, AD 2025 7:43am

I always had the impression that the reason for defining death in terms of brain activity was because it was not possible to determine death by cessation of heartbeat and breathing if a person was on life support — the “machines” would keep the heart beating and lungs inflating and deflating long after all other bodily functions had ceased, and at least in theory you could end up with a decaying body that was still technically alive because the heart and lungs were still moving. Apparently that is not the case?

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Monday, March 3, AD 2025 8:07am

“Dead Ringer” is a term to define the reality of a buried human who wakes up in a coffin underground. A bell was attached to a rope which he could ring and be unburied.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Monday, March 3, AD 2025 10:41am

A person can be brain dead but be alive to any degree of bodily function and awareness.

A person cannot have a stopped heart and be alive.

The heart is the engine of the body. Once the heart stops then the person dies. Simply.

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Donald Link
Friday, March 7, AD 2025 10:10am

I am old enough to remember when organ transplants were a new treatment. At that time there were rigorous tests to determine that the deceased donor was truly deceased. It did not seem very long before the “brain dead” concept was established and, of course, transplants increased. Seems like a return to the traditional definition of death would be most prudent.

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