We live in a time when ignorance and lies are celebrated and heavily promoted. We know Cleopatra’s blood line for centuries before her birth. Her ancestors were all Macedonians with one Persian.
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From commenter Nate Winchester:
If the actor looks familiar he portrayed Cajun Merriell Shelton, Private “Snafu”, Eugene Sledge’s buddy in The Pacific.
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Were there any great civilizations in black Africa like the Egyptian civilization that built great monuments, left behind a legacy of hieroglyphic writings and statuesque art, and influenced neighboring nations for millennia?
Or did such civilizations arise but the jungle eventually devoured them?
LQC, from what I’m read, no sub-saharan civilization had a written language or even two story structures. Years ago I created an architecture course and one aspect showcased architecture from all around the world and sub-saharan didn’t have any. To be considered Architecture a structure has to be permanent. Similarly most American Indians tribes didn’t have Architecture either.
Identity History. If you don’t study it you are ignorant. If you do, you’re deluded.
Last night Fox News had a segment which revealed some polled believe each year cops kill 1.000 unarmed black men. In fact, it’s 12. Now 12 is too many, but tthey lie and many believe.
The Truth is out there.
There are few things that are more fictional than “Wakanda:” critical race theory, structural/systemic racism, the 1609 project, the transgender circus, climate hysterics, inanimate objects kill, . . .
And of course Wakanda was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, two white men.
Who were Jewish! Let the conspiracy theories commence!
The other day, I was in a thread and someone pointed out a presentation Neil deGrasse Tyson did for the National Geographic Society on the Indus Valley Civilization.
Tyson is filmed walking and talking and then computer generated imagery is inserted around him by editors. Surviving skeletal remains are consistent with the thesis that the inhabitants of the Indus Valley, ca. 2000 BC were kin to the inhabitants of South Asia today. You can see the film editors at the National Geographic Society populated the Indus Valley city with Africans.
Were there any great civilizations in black Africa like the Egyptian civilization that built great monuments,
IIRC, there were territorial states in the Sahel contemporaneous with Medieval Europe which had cities and stone structures. I think they may have used Arabic script.
I believe Ethiopia had its own script, stone structures, cities &c.contemporaneous with Late Antiquity.
Human beings are found on all continents. However the only societies that developed beyond subsistence were found in temperate climates… not too hot, not too cold.
Another bonus is to have inland seas & navigable rivers… easy trade.
Essential for science is a Belief in a Creator and thus a discoverable universe.
There is really only one place on earth where all these components existed:
The Mediterranean.
Ps. Temperate climates mean lighter skin. It’s a vitamin D thing… Any aliens visiting earth must think we’re really cool for having such variety but really really stupid.
Real story of Cleopatra was an episode on the History Chanel almost two decades ago. The current promoters of this one must have thought everyone forgot about the original.
These comments are most enjoyable; even fun. I enjoyed them.
The you tube clip tells me that I am really stupid. and that past history is not real.
Tyson is to Science, what slick Salesmen who happen to have an engineering degree are to actual Engineers.
The lack of darker skinned advanced civilizations has nothing to do with skin color!!
Tyson is to Science, what slick Salesmen who happen to have an engineering degree are to actual Engineers.
He’s not an academician, but most astronomers aren’t. He is a planetarium director. He also has a signed dissertation and a bibliography of research articles. I don’t see the point of insulting him. Those weren’t actual buildings and actors around him. It’s not clear who was responsible for this.
Part of these shenanigans arise from a false identification of “civilized” with “higher moral status”. It isn’t: it means cities, writing, settled agriculture and life organized beyond mere tribalism. Nothing to do with morality (and Dawson observed that pastoral “barbarians” often had stronger and more virile moral codes than neighboring civilized states). Canaan was civilized with ritual prostitution, Israel was not. Carthage (which sacrificed babies to a god of wealth, sort of like modern liberals) was less civilized at the time than Rome. That your distant ancestors did not build pyramids says nothing about your character or brains. Get over yourself!
This fixation on Cleopatras skin colour trivialises her many accomplishments. Skin colour did not matter to the Ancient Egyptians. They identified themselves via the regions they lived and each region had people with skin that graduated from light to dark. They did not focus on skin colour to determine identity or class. A focus on Skin colour to determine superiority or inferiority is a modern fixation.
As a side, I recall visiting the city of Tripoli in Lebanon in my 20’s and the city is mainly Muslim – and simple and poor- walking through the markets I was surprised that many market vendors were very fair skinned with blonde hair and crystal blue eyes – that came from the Crusades mixing with the local people and had nothing to do with how civilised or what class a person belongs to. You see pockets of this mix of skin colour happening all of ME, North Africa and throughout the Mediterranean.
The other thing about Cleopatra was she was insanely inbred. It was normal to marry ones sibling. Cleopatras father was believed to have married a few of his sisters and Cleopatra herself may have married her brother. The likelihood of the Pharaohs marrying some random black woman when they are of Macedonian/Ancient Greek, is illogical.
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If this goes on, 10-20 years from down popular culture will seriously endorse the idea that William Shakespeare and the Vikings, among others, were actually black.
There’s already more support for that lunacy in academia than you would think, and of course Hollywood is keen on putting blacks into those sorts of roles while crying about whenever a white actor is put into an “inappropriate” role (see the last Hellboy movie for a completely ridiculous example of that.) Yet the public is still generally aware when they see a black Viking or Trojan or Victorian noble or whatever that this is artistic license. But in 10-20 years, it will probably be taken as an accurate reflection of the past.
Rudolph:
There were no black Trojans, but (in the legend) Ethiopia sent warriors to the defense of Troy, led by Memnon.
Tom Byrne, Interesting.
Not sure how many Ethiopians, or Africans, trace descent from Eos, goddess of the dawn. According to Wikipedia [I have to see if I can find my Iliad somewhere], Memnon only appears in Homer’s The Odyssey.
During the eighth century, BC Egypt was ruled by a succession of Nubian pharaohs. [Discover magazine] The Nubian king Piye became the first of a succession of five “black pharaohs” who ruled Egypt for six decades with the blessing of the Egyptian priesthood because hundreds of years prior priests accompanying Egypt’s conquering armies saw a land mass and concluded it was the birthplace of their chief god, Amun [they think].
Christopher Columbus’ mother was Irish you know.
T.Shaw:
The Nubians are still there, in southern Egypt, but the Egyptians themselves show the genetics of the Middle East and North Africa, not Black Africa, although there are traces of that in the peoples of Upper Egypt (below Memphis). Dr. Hawass, who directed their antiquities services for years, demonstrated by genetic studies that the people of Egypt are genetically the same as the mummies of thousands of years ago. I’ve taught Egyptians, and they don’t look like Spike Lee!