PopeWatch: China v. Vatican

 

Lando, would you do the honors:

 

 

 

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Father of Seven
Father of Seven
Tuesday, April 11, AD 2023 5:50am

Bishop Lefebvre gets excommunicated by JP2 for consecrating bishops in an effort to preserve the ancient Mass. History looks ever more kindly on the Archbishop. In contrast, history will not be quite so kind to Pope Skandalon. Perhaps Dante’s masterpiece will have to be updated.

Frank
Frank
Tuesday, April 11, AD 2023 6:58am

CCP breaks “agreement” with the Holy See.
“Unexpectedly!”
/sarcasm off

Clinton
Clinton
Tuesday, April 11, AD 2023 1:24pm

I’m betting Francis and his courtiers don’t really mind that much. Sure, they don’t like being publicly punked by the Chinese government, but it’s not as if the communists will be appointing bishops whose political and religious commitments are much different from what we have in Rome already. And the fate of the Chinese Pew Meat has obviously always been of zero importance to the crew running this pontificate; so aside from the bad optics, I don’t think our betters in Rome are actually unhappy.

I mean, it’s not as if Peking was installing traditionalist bishops who promoted the Latin Mass. That’s when we’d see Francis get furious.

John L Flaherty
John L Flaherty
Wednesday, April 12, AD 2023 3:01am

“History looks ever more kindly on the Archbishop.”
Sadly, it does not. We’ve been arguing about Lefebvre’s motives for 35 years. Briefly stated though, a bishop, archbishop, seminary rector, or leader of a Society do not outrank a Pope. Lefebvre’s priests did not face threat of execution for failing to follow Swiss law. Nobody coerced Lefebvre. Francis and his Curia have acted foolishly toward China. They do have cause to be careful: .Chinese faithful DO face threat of execution if they seek to be openly Catholic.

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