Come Back Adolph, All is Forgiven

The Germans, doing their best to convince the rest  of the world that they have learned little in the past seventy-six years.  Fortunately some Germans know better:

 

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Frank
Frank
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 6:39am

The crowds are encouraging, although it’s somewhat ironic to see how many attend these protests masked and observing “social distancing.” The habits have been ingrained to a frightening extent already. Let us hope and pray that the people with functional brains will vote the bums out at the next opportunity. How to break the hold of the “administrative class” may not be so simple, of course, as Pres. Trump learned the hard way.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 8:18am

The obnoxious promotion of vaccination among a population which does not benefit from it is an indication that the U.S. is not the only country where school administration is an occupation where idiots accumulate.

I should note that among our shirttails, a mother has insisted on having her sons vaccinated. Those boys are 9 and 11 and one of them already had COVID, as has his mother. She did this with the approval of her mother-in-law and (AFAICT) the silent countenance of her husband and her father in law. Her husband and her father-in-law are both doctors. She herself is a lapsed social worker with one good degree and one junk degree, both from tony institutions. The Sailerites chuffering about IQ need to remember that people with high IQs tend to be other-directed fad chasers.

I should mention something else, everyone in our social worker shirt-tail’s family would benefit from professional attention, especially her younger son. They don’t need a doctor, they need a personal trainer to get their weight under control.

David Alan Spaulding
David Alan Spaulding
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 8:27am

Philadelphia is implementing an ordinance in January which requires proof of vaccination to rent an hotel room, eat any meal, or enter any place of public accommodation, other than for the purpose of buying food or fuel.

This rule prevents the unvaccinated from working or enjoying even the benefits paid for by their taxes.

I am vaccinated but I won’t be carrying a card around. Where does this “right to foce you to do what is good for you” end? Theoretically, the vaccinated are safe from the significant effects of hospitalization and death for which the vaccine was presented as remedy. That is a compelling reason for getting vaccinated but it tells us nothing about the authority of the State to make others get vaccinated.

If making someone get the vaccine for their own health and welfare is a legitimate authority of the State then preventing obesity is too. Perhaps fat people like me should not be able to buy fast food or soft drinks. Perhaps those with high blood pressure should be prevented from going to restaurants or buying salt or processed foods. Perhaps cars should be engineered to drive at speeds which will reduce injuries to a minimum or people prevented from living farther than an established distance from work.

Where does it all end if the State has the authority to make us live the life others deem good for us?

I place the blame on cigarette regulations. I really do think that we should never have let the State dictate the smoking rules in private establishments. We should have left it to the markets to flesh out. We allowed the State to dictate private health matters and now we have the bastards up in our face on vaccinations.

There’s no way that this is the bottom of that slippery slope.

Dale Price
Dale Price
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 8:34am

The Sailerites chuffering about IQ need to remember that people with high IQs tend to be other-directed fad chasers.

That’s an excellent point, and one I shall be using in arguments.

Don L
Don L
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 8:55am

Why do I suspect that WWIII is being fought with needles instead of nukes?

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 9:48am

Philadelphia is implementing an ordinance in January which requires proof of vaccination to rent an hotel room, eat any meal, or enter any place of public accommodation, other than for the purpose of buying food or fuel.

Do the laws of Pennsylvania allow a county government regulatory authority this intrusive? Note, this isn’t a land use matter and you’re not making use of a public thoroughfare or generating a nuisance detectable with the five senses.

The jurisdictional question aside, this is substantively cock-eyed. The vaccines are not that effective and they’re not sterilizing when they are effective. They also are fairly dirty as vaccines go, with a menu of side effects.

The excuse in regard to smoking is that second-hand smoke is a health hazard. Even the epidemiologists who manufactured that argument didn’t claim it generated more than a four-digit death toll in this very large country each year (and it’s a reasonable wager that those in that small set were people living with cigarette smokers). It’s just the karenwaffe getting in everyone’s face, which you can see clearly in liberal jurisdictions where there have been attempts to ban smoking in apartments.

In 1970, the phrase ‘it’s a free country’ was a cliche. Have you heard anyone say it in the last forty years?

Donald Link
Donald Link
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 10:02am

Precisely the reason both sets of my grandparents left the country and its would be Prussian martinets.

John F. Kennedy
John F. Kennedy
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 10:05am

Do-gooder tyranny.
“Perhaps cars should be engineered to drive at speeds which will reduce injuries” this already being planned and implemented. They are calling them Smart Cars.

I am against vaccine mandates / requirements for the same reason I am against the No Smoking regulations in private businesses in the 80s and 90s, helmut laws, seat belt laws, etc. I would have been opposed to the cigarette warning in the 60s / 70s. If they were so bad, why not ban them instead of making tons of tax money?
I explain to people who are surprised that while I brush my teeth every day I don’t think the government has the power to compell me to do so for my own good or “the greater good” of anyone else. (Quoting Hot Fuzz).

I barely recognize this country anymore.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 10:22am

“They are calling them Smart Cars.”
JFK

On the near horizon the implanted chip will be know as Smart ID. Purchasing, selling or conducting any business transactions will require a chip.
That’s what I see up ahead in the distance.

Covid overreach is a perfect trial balloon. Vaccination cards to operate in the marketplace? To board a plane or train.

Just imagine the ridicule and prejudice that will be heaped upon the non-compliant. Alas. Small tightly knit communities bartering and sharing goods and services v. Big Brother.

Conspiracy theory?
We won’t have to wait long to find out.

Elaine Biggerstaff
Elaine Biggerstaff
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 10:27am

If health of people were really an interest of the state and if it did have the authority to regulate it, it would pass laws against fornication, contraception, abortion, sodomy, and spend whatever money is necessary to locate, prosecute and if convicted, jail pedophiles and those who create pornography for the rest of their lives because all of these contribute not only to bad health but destroy human life, destroy healthy relationships, and create untold mental and physical health problems for those who are raped and molested by pedos. We know all of these are actually promoted and supported (and taxpayer funded in some cases) by the state which proves beyond any doubt, the state does not care one iota about human life or human health.

Dave G.
Dave G.
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 11:01am

Frank, I think the problem is the mandates. I don’t think anyone would care if the medical community suggested different measures that might help or that we might choose to follow. If we want to wear masks by all means. Or social distance or remain hunkered down for a time. Or even choose to get a vaccine. It’s the mandates and the threat of punishment that is the problem. Especially when it’s clear we’re still learning as we go, and many things we’ve been told haven’t panned out the way they were supposed to.

Faithful
Faithful
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 11:31am

@DA Spaulding: “Theoretically, the vaccinated are safe from the significant effects of hospitalization and death for which the vaccine was presented as remedy. That is a compelling reason for getting vaccinated…”
Except what you describe is properly characterized as a form of treatment, not immunization from a disease. And as we know, proven and effective treatments are being discouraged if not banned outright; treatments that would also significantly lower rates of hospitalization and death, but without the potential for long term health risks posed by the shots.

John F. Kennedy
John F. Kennedy
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 11:45am

Phillip, the chips are already here and people are self chipping themselves like animals.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/facing-covid-passport-mandate-more-swedes-get-microchip-implants/2436048
“those with microchip implants have stopped carrying vaccine passports, keys, ID cards, and even train tickets with them, thanks to radio frequency identification technology, a wireless system comprising tags and readers.”
Of course when the herd needs to be thinned, they know where to find you…

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 12:10pm

Other news outlets have reported a few thousand Swedes have received these rfid chips since 2013. Creepy, but doesn’t seem to be catching on there. About 9,000,000 people live in Sweden.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 12:16pm

I would have been opposed to the cigarette warning in the 60s / 70s. If they were so bad, why not ban them instead of making tons of tax money?

Tobacco excises account for a tiny % of public revenue. The utility of taxes in that circumstance is to change relative prices so people’s consumption decisions are influenced by externalities not incorporated into the price.

That aside, the warnings were anodyne and a function of a real problem. Coronavirus infections among the young do not constitute more than the most minor problem.

John F. Kennedy
John F. Kennedy
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 12:27pm

Art, I understand the idea of the stick approach of taxes to discourage a use, but since when are taxes “not incorporated into the price”? Additionally, I don’t care. It is none of any government’s business to discourage a legal products use in a manner it was intended.
A few years ago I saw the reaction of a New Yorker when he saw the price of cigarettes in Ohio. He wanted to buy as much as he could afford and “smuggle” them into NYC. I saw then that the Tobacco industry should stop selling in New York and other high tax states and let ALL of the Tobacco be smuggled in so it would a tax problem for the Powers that be in NY. BTW, I’ve never smoked a cigarette.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 1:01pm

Microchips are already everywhere and in everything. And we don’t need to have microchips implanted into our bodies to track our movements. Our phone already does this. It’s got a smart chip in it and it’s why they call it a smart phone. It’s basically another organ. It goes with us everywhere and we require it to function in the world.

There is a global supply chain shortage on microchips. It impacts the most vital of manufactured products. Major countries are building factories to manufacture and supply their own.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/07/chip-shortage-is-starting-to-have-major-real-world-consequences.html

John F. Kennedy
John F. Kennedy
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 1:44pm

Ezabelle, yes and that’s why I would leave my phone at home if I didn’t want to be tracked.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 2:27pm

It doesn’t just track your movements JFK, it tracks your conversations and cyber activity. Ever wondered why an ad or article for a random product shows up on your browser after you have had a conversation with someone about that said product? At home. I mean forget about trying to outsmart this technology, the horse has bolted and nobody batted an eyelid about privacy when it was being played out under our noses.

Fun fact- You can cross the Canadian and US border and your credentials will be verified contactless and without consciously showing any form of ID.

Rudolph Harrier
Rudolph Harrier
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 3:34pm

Per the CDC, of the first 43 confirmed cases of Omicorn, 34 (79%) had the initial run of a COVID vaccination and 14 (33%) had received a booster shot. (The 14 are included in the 34, so 9 had one or fewer shots.) For perspective, about 60% of the US population has received the full initial run of a vaccination and about 16% of the population has received a booster.

It’s a small sample size (these are from about two weeks ago, but I can’t find more recent data.) But nothing in this sample suggests that the vaccines do anything against this variant whatsoever and in fact if anything they might reduce resistance to it. (Of course, there are other factors to consider such as whether vaccinated people travel more, generally have worse immune systems even before the vaccination, etc.)

Yet the propaganda remains firm that the only response to Omicron is to keep getting those shots, and millions of people believe it without question.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 3:43pm

since when are taxes “not incorporated into the price”?

Externalities are not incorporated into the price.

It is none of any government’s business to discourage a legal products use in a manner it was intended.

I think I’d get off that train ‘ere you go hurtling over a cliff.

John F. Kennedy
John F. Kennedy
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 6:19pm

Ezabelle, I’m not allowed to say certain words around my wife due to phone and computers listening in. A few years ago I mention to my wife that I was have a mouse problem, my computer mouse was having issues. She started getting mouse trap ads on her phone for at least a week!

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 6:47pm

Talk about being Tech challenged..me.
Thanks Ezabelle and JFK.
I was aware of the smart phone gps and algorithms ect…but phones and computers listening in to conversations in the home? Is that the Alexa device picking up on conversations? Or far worse than that?

I realize that your personal inquiry into anything via the net is like chum for the sharks who want your dollar. But can devices in your home pick up anything anytime?

Sorry if my question is so rudimentary.

I have a blue collar on.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 8:01pm

Philip my tech knowledge is not as good as some commentators or contributors here and probably as good as yours. But my understanding is it’s a combination of your personal online activity along with being in proximity to someone who has looked up that item you were talking about. So in JFK case re: the mouse scenario – if he didn’t look it up perhaps his wife did and the phone used his location to know that he was in proximity to his wife’s and might have had a conversation about it and bingo…it’s tracking your behaviour not listening to your conversation…and It’s all smart phones, not confined to Alexa devices. You can turn off the location services on your phone but it restricts the capacity in which you can use your phone. So as a default we turn on the location services….
It’s impossible to not have a digital footprint and now that ID credentials are becoming digital then it’s actually going to be more harder to keep your details and credentials private and secure. It’s the way the world is going. Some countries have a National ID card/digital certificate already and all your info is stored in one place. It’s the easiest way to control a growing population.

There will come a day when they don’t need to ask a child to clarify their vaccine status. They will know their vaccine status. Privacy is bull.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 8:13pm

Well, according to this article they deny listening, however only Apple has admitted to it, through Siri. Hmmm…I’m
sure no tech company is going to admit to breach of privacy beyond tracking your behaviour..that makes it as clear as mud as to what the actual truth is about who and what is listening in on your conversations via your smart phone…

https://www.spiralytics.com/blog/mobile-ads-can-phone-hear-conversations-infographic/

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 8:21pm

Here’s a puzzle. To date, this year’s winter wave has been milder than last year’s. It seems displace in time by several weeks in the Dakotas and other places. Here’s a puzzle, to date Michigan has been getting shlonged just as badly as last year, in both case counts and death counts.

John F. Kennedy
John F. Kennedy
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 8:49pm

Neither I or my wife looked up anything to do with either kind of mouse. I only told her I was having mouse problems. Her iPhone was listening in. Since then I have noticed my Samsung phone seems to have the same ability at times.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Thursday, December 16, AD 2021 9:43pm

Thank you Ezabelle.
The link was very helpful.
Good advice.

CAM
CAM
Saturday, December 18, AD 2021 7:14am

For a while the Germans and a Scandinavian country had stopped child vax because of the Israeli study on cardiomyopothies in vaxxed children, mostly male.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Saturday, December 18, AD 2021 4:16pm

“Neither I or my wife looked up anything to do with either kind of mouse. I only told her I was having mouse problems.” I believe you.

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