PopeWatch: Gag Me

The above is from Bishop Daniel E. Flores.  Clericalism at its worst.  Translation:  Fearless Leader is always right.

 

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Faithful
Faithful
Monday, November 15, AD 2021 8:01am

I would agree with the bishop’s comments to the extent the question seems to presume the Pope should be treated as a political leader with an eye on public opinion polls. Regardless of who sits upon the chair of St. Peter, that is certainly the wrong attitude.

Aside from that the bishop’s response comments would allow for one to answer that indeed they love the Holy Father by virtue of their prayers for him and fraternal correction they may offer in charity when there is a serious reason to believe he may need it. In fact the Holy Father has more than once invited the faithful to challenge or question him if, in good faith, they disagree with him on something( in the spirit of “dialogue” perhaps?) and if need be to “make a mess”.

David WS
David WS
Monday, November 15, AD 2021 8:48am

I love the guy, he said he’d make a mess, he’s making a mess … I wish he’d stop making a mess.

Steve Phoenix
Steve Phoenix
Monday, November 15, AD 2021 9:49am

But such a ‘daring’ public stance by Bp. Flores (a) absolves him from any difficult decisions to challenge wrong by his superiors, (b) soothes his self-image needs (“I’m a good guy! I’m ‘loving!’), and (c) puts him in prime position for elevation to higher office.

Which is of course how he got to where he is today, positioning himself nearest to the ecclesiastical superior’s posterior for greatest advantage in being first to .. You know, the thing.

Don L
Don L
Monday, November 15, AD 2021 10:45am

For the next pope, can they just draw straws? Think how cutting down on all that white smoke will help save the environment.

David Sharples
David Sharples
Monday, November 15, AD 2021 11:56am

Steve,
So right, I’m seeing this in “some” parish priests also:
“But such a ‘daring’ public stance by Bp. Flores (a) absolves him from any difficult decisions to challenge wrong by his superiors, (b) soothes his self-image needs (“I’m a good guy! I’m ‘loving!’), and (c) puts him in prime position for elevation to higher office.”

G. Poulin
G. Poulin
Monday, November 15, AD 2021 12:35pm

In a corrupt institution, the you-know-what rises to the top of the bowl.

Dale Price
Dale Price
Tuesday, November 16, AD 2021 12:49pm

I have met Bishop Flores and I still think highly of him.

What he’s saying isn’t wrong, but it is so manifestly incomplete that I hope there’s more to his thinking than that.

That one must love a neglectful (or worse) father is mandatory. That one has to accept without question his neglect (or worse) is not.

In fact, I’d say protecting others in his care from the same misconduct is pretty well mandatory.

John
John
Wednesday, November 17, AD 2021 10:19am

The question is “can we kick the pope out?”. Sooner would be better. I still pray he’ll change his ways.

Pinky
Pinky
Wednesday, November 17, AD 2021 1:51pm

Well, obviously, we can’t kick the pope out. But if they’re asking for our opinions, say in a Synod on Synodality, it’s definitely our place to talk about the relationship of the Vatican to different orthodox spiritual communities who prefer the Traditional Mass, for example, or to voice our concern that we balance our care for the souls in communist countries with the need to clearly proclaim the evils of their governments, et cetera.

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