Dale Price at Dyspeptic Mutterings nails it:
The Zero Rs.
It is often said that federalism is a laboratory that allows States to try their own solutions to assorted domestic problems.
If that’s the case, the Beaver State is brewing up a bold concoction:
Students no longer have to demonstrate proficiency in reading, writing and math to get a diploma.
Why?
Equity is a jealous god:
The governor’s deputy communications director said that dropping the requirements “will benefit Oregon’s Black, Latino, Latina, Latinx, Indigenous, Asian, Pacific Islander, Tribal, and students of color.”
The hard bigotry of no expectations has returned.
Go here to read the comments. Diplomas and degrees are supposed to be the declaration that someone has mastered a course of learning. Now they are becoming mere participation trophies and have as much meaning as getting a gold star for showing up. There is no greater bigotry than assuming that members of a group are incapable of learning.
Dumb question: what on earth is “Latinx?” You have Latino / Latina…..is the other term for confused people of Hispanic origin?
If I were any of those different ethnic minority groups, I would be offended that they have to dumb things down for me to graduate. Like you pointed out, Don, a diploma used to really mean something. My grandmother was the only one of her sisters to graduate high school almost one hundred years ago, and that was a very big deal. You’re right – it’s become a participation trophy.
Cathy, “Latinx” is supposed to be the gender neutral term for latino/latina.
That most ACTUAL latin people hate it and don’t care for it is of no concern for the language warpers.
As near as I am able to tell, even white folk don’t need to demonstrate any proficiency in those basic skills, so it really would be discrimination to hold non-whites to those standards.
The stupider you make people, the more they rely on the government to think. No doubt that’s the agenda here.
Bisexual pervert Governor Brown knows of NO level too deep in the quagmire of muck to which she may go.
There is a nuclear startup company based out of Oregon. It has great difficulty getting experienced nuclear personnel to work for it. No nuke wants to go to the land of drop out hippie nit wits, high taxes, high housing prices, and high fuel prices. Invariably it gets the dregs of the industry, or worse: inexperienced millennial graduates out of OSU’s nuclear engineering dept. I cannot go into details publicly, but it’s a disaster.
I thank God that my training and education came from US Naval Nuclear Power School and shipmates on a submarine 1000 feet beneath the surface. You either did your mathematics right in calculating critical rod position after a reactor scram, or you learned to breathe seawater. Freaking useless worthless Godless liberal progressive feminist environmentalist Demon-craps –> that’s the entire Willamette valley from Portland to Eugene which controls the political winds of an other Republican state. Just like NYS that is Republican in the north and bat-$h1t crazy in Putnam, Westchester, Rockland, Orange, NYC and Long Island.
The idiocracy does not need more idiots. All the lovely people possess the most effective and extensive [see China Joe commentary 2020] election stealing machine known to man.
In conclusion, 2 + 2 = 4 is White Supremacy.
I’m usually a federalist, but I don’t see any way of reestablishing the value of H.S. diplomas without a national competency test. I hate the idea, but if I’m on either side of a job interview, how else is the hirer going to know the education of the applicant? Maybe if the applicant is from the neighborhood, but from out of state?
“…but if I’m on either side of a job interview, how else is the hirer going to know the education of the applicant?”
This is why when new graduates from SUNY at Oswego were hired at the local nuke plants in Lycoming, as a training instructor at one of them I had to teach the newly hired people basic algebra (then geometry, trigonometry, etc. – but we had to start at the ground floor) in addition to physics, chemistry, etc. That was back in the early 2000s. I imagine it’s even worse now.
BTW, I have no college degree – just Naval Nuclear Power training. And currently a senior leader in one of the technical depts at my current place of work wants me to come over to train his newly hired college graduates in all things nuclear, starting with basic Newtonian physics. I thank God I was spared college. Worthless useless indoctrination.
Cathy,
Leftist’s hate Romance languages because romance highlights complimentary male and female relationships, and because “love wins” or something.
Cathy:
What Nate said. I will add that Spanish is a very “gendered” language–all nouns are either male or female–there are no neuter nouns.
This is something of a problem for the great progressive remaking, especially given a growing Hispanic population. So leftist Anglos cobbled together a neuter noun descriptor for Hispanics as a group.
Which, as can be expected, is as popular as other historic gringo imperialist efforts.
Dale:
There is a Spanish neuter, although it is not common. It’s used for the name of the elements, among other things. The article is “lo”.
Lucius, college doesn’t have to be useless. It’s nearly a miracle that we’ve figured out a way to make it so. In our current situation, you can’t make college better until you make it so that people of average capability can get jobs straight out of high school. Then we can make college a special thing. As it stands now, the average kid has to be able to make it through college, so HR is going to be looking for master’s or better.
While were at it let’s make sure that this absurdity is paid for by hard working blue collar taxpayers.
Yeah…that’s the ticket!
Chumps…those white supremacists.
Oh.
Wait. That’s me.
apprenticeships and trade schools are the solution. Back to the 18th century.
Isn’t it odd that almost everything white liberals advocate seems designed to encourage the worst results and lowest of expectations for the minorities they insist they care about?
I’m usually a federalist, but I don’t see any way of reestablishing the value of H.S. diplomas without a national competency test.
There’s nothing that prevents state legislatures and the state board of regents from instituting standardized tests. Republicans are perfectly otiose about the schools and Democrats destructive. Adding to the discretion of our grotesque national legislature is a way to accomplish precisely nothing.
“[H]ow else is the hirer going to know the education of the applicant?”
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Pinky: in my experience (watching family and friends) it is about social connections more than the education that is written on paper.
This is why when new graduates from SUNY at Oswego were hired at the local nuke plants in Lycoming,
You were hiring them to do just what? IIRC, Oswego has no engineering school. BTW, I was at one time competent in multivariable calculus and had some experience with statistical software. It would never have occurred to me that the local power plants would have had any use for me.
Art, the thing is, am I supposed to research every state before I hire someone? If there’s minimal benefit to 1-49 states’ legislation, and greater benefit to all 50, that sounds like the right conditions for federal activity.
DJH – I’ve heard that about the Ivy Leagues, but it’s not true for the other 99% of graduates.
Art, the thing is, am I supposed to research every state before I hire someone? I
Consult a reference volume on the standards and practices in each state. Wouldn’t have to be 100 pages long.
I live in Oregon, and I about choked when I saw that. From Fox News: “Charles Boyle, the deputy communications director from Brown’s office, told the paper in an email that staff from the governor’s office informed legislative staffers about the bill’s signing on the day it was passed. He also said that the new standards for graduation will help benefit the state’s “Black, Latino, Latinx, Indigenous, Asian, Pacific Islander, Tribal, and students of color.”
I am dumbfounded that they would openly say such an incredibly racist thing. Really? Non-white people can’t do math, or read, or write? And nobody is calling them on it. The media is silent.
@ Art Deco – “I was at one time competent in multivariable calculus.” Surely something Reactor Engineers (the folks who do neutron flux analysis, fuel burnup analysis, calculations of critical heat flux and departure form nucleate boiling predictions, etc.) must be proficient at. They do magic I shall never understand. The company was very particular about those hires, thank God.
@Art again – “You were hiring them to do just what?” Some were for Maintenance Mechanical or Electrical or I&C, others for Operations to become a Nuclear Plant Operators. Basic math, physics, etc. are all required by everyone. And every single thing is proceduralized. There is a whole INPO National Academy for Nuclear Training Program that came out of the TMI debacle. Too long to explain here. Everything from fundamentals on up gets taught, with specialization for different disciplines like mechanical, electrical, I&C, health physics, chemistry, operations, etc.
@Pinky – “Lucius, college doesn’t have to be useless.” Agree 100% Am currently working with a young lady who got her degree from a University in Poland (yes, she’s an immigrant, but not the kind the Democrats like). She needs to have a whole lot more confidence in herself. She’s great. Really enjoy working with someone who’s got a brain and knows how to use it.
This is the first time that I’ve seen “Latinx” appear in the same list as “Latino and Latina.” The “x” is meant as a wildcard variable that could be an “o” or an “a”, so as to not enforce a gender on the word. (Though Spanish does require you to set a grammatical gender for each word, so not the implication that “Latinx” people speak a sexist language.) Putting “Latinx” after “Latino” and “Latina” instead implies that it is a third gender, perhaps like the neuter of Latin or German.
Most likely the governor had no idea what “Latinx” was meant to mean, but knew that if she did not include it she would get yelled at.
” I’ve heard that about the Ivy Leagues, but it’s not true for the other 99% of graduates.”
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@Pinky: My children were not Ivy Leaguers, and connections helped them a great deal. I think the connections angle is far more common than people want to admit.