Thursday, March 28, AD 2024 4:38pm

Final Presidential Debate Open Thread

 

The final presidential debate will begin at 8:00 PM tonight CDT.  I will give a blow by blow as it progresses.  I expect a tag team of Biden and the moderator against Trump.

The race is very much in flux.  In spite of a few laughable national polls, it is becoming clear that this is a very close contest, as most battleground state polls are showing.  Early voting and voting by mail in most states indicates that the Democrats are betting everything on voting before election day and that election day voting will be predominantly Republican.  The Hunter Biden e-mails have tossed several Jokers into the deck, and the impact of this growing scandal, the attempt by the Tech Lords to act as censors for Biden, and a potential avalanche come election day of “shy” or “hidden” Trump voters will make election day, in twelve days, a true nail biter, with the aftermath potentially witnessing the greatest domestic turmoil since the Civil War.  I believe Trump has a 75% chance of winning.

The Biden campaign expects Trump to act in this debate as he did in the first debate.  Perhaps, but Trump usually does not completely repeat himself.  He will force the moderator to use the mute button against him since he suspects this action will help display the intense media bias which surrounds this contest.  He will ask questions about Hunter Biden, assuming that nothing will inflame Joe Biden more.  Unlike most commenters, I think the initial debate helped Trump.  Also, Trump is Trump.  He is not a professional politician and he detests the games they play.  His performance tonight will not be the same as his performance in the first debate, but will be a variation on a theme.

I think Biden will make the same mistake Romney made in the final two debates against Obama in 2012, attempting to sit on a non-existent lead.  His shaky faculties and his inability to answer questions about the Hunter Biden e-mails will probably make this his last big public appearance before election day, and he will attempt to coast to victory.

An interesting contrast in goals and styles await us tonight.

5:00PM The man has style.  Trump’s special guest tonight at the debate is Tony Bobulinski, Hunter Biden’s former business partner, who is spilling the beans on China Biden.

8:05PMFirst question Covid-19 Trump.  Good summary by him of what the administration has done.

Biden:  Blames Trump for the Covid deaths.  Trump taking notes.  Masks will save us, and testing.  Biden will take care of us.

Trump:  Vaccine by the end of the year.  Names companies working on it.  Says we will have the vaccines by the end of the year to be distributed by the end of the year.

Biden: Must be transparent as to the Vaccine.  Going into a dark winter under Trump.

Trump:  Opening the country-no dark winter.  Biden was months behind him on banning travel.  Blames Biden for the swine flu debacle.  (Trump is quieter than in the last debate and more effective.

Biden:  Trump is xenophobic and blames him for being slow against the Covid.

Trump:  Can’t lock ourselves up in a basement like Joe.  (That leaves a mark.)  Can’t close up the nation.

Biden:  Blames Trump again for the Covid deaths.

Trump:  It is China’s fault not his fault or Biden’s fault.

Biden:  Blames Trump again.

Trump:  Brings up Biden calling him up racist for closing travel to China.

8:15PM  Biden:  Does he support further shut downs.  Says he will not rule out further shut downs.

Trump:Blames the Democrats for prolonging the shut downs.  Nation will not shut down again.  Need to open schools.

Trump:Wants to open schools.  Risk is small.  Must fully open the country.  The cure cannot be worse than the problem.

Biden-Schools need resources to open.

Trump-Businesses are dying.  Nation needs reopening.

Biden-Says spikes are in Red States.  Masks will save us.

Trump-New York lost 40,000 people.  Points out blue states that are closed.  We must open up.

8:20PM Trump-Says he listens to experts on Covid.

Biden-Claims that Trump kept the truth of Covid from the American people.

Trump-Points out his large contributions from Wall Street.

Question:  Foreign interference in elections from Iran and Russia.

Biden: Nations will pay a penalty for interfering in our elections.  Claims Giuliani is a Russian pawn.  Trump will not take on Putin.

8:25PM Trump:  Joe’s family got 3.5 million from Russia.  Russia wants Trump to lose.  Nobody tougher on Russia.  Obama administration weak on Russia.  Brings up money from China.  Brigs up Tony  Bobulinski.

Biden:  Claims he has received no money from a foreign nation.  Says Trump has received money from foreign nations.

Trump:  Back on the offensive as to the Big Man receiving money from his son.

8:30PM Trump doesn’t say when  he will release his taxes.

Biden:  Attacks Trump on taxes.  That hurts Trump.  He needs to move off the subect.

Trump:  Phony witch hunt against him based on the Russian smear.  Brings up Biden corruption.

Biden:  Asked about Hunter.  Biden denies wrong doing in regard to the Ukraine.  Attacks Trump on the Ukraine.  Denies that his son made money in China.

Trump:  Biden becomes Veep and Hunter gets a job in the Ukraine.

Trump:  Asked about bank account in China.  Opened in 2013 and closed in 2015.  Decided against doing a deal in China.  All before he ran for President.  Attacks Biden on corruption.

Biden:  Asked about China.  Claims he would be tough on China.  Blames Trump for cozying up to dictators.

8:38PM-Trump bring up the Hunter Biden e-mails in regard to China.  Brags about tariffs on China.

Biden:  Says Trump is bringing up malarkey about him to avoid talking about the tough times.

Trump:  Lets gets off the China thing.  Typical politician.

Trump:  Asked about North Korea.  Said that Obama told him that North Korea was the biggest problem.  Says that his efforts have lived to peace.

Biden:  Would be tough with North Korea.  He claims that Trump has legitimized North Korea.

Trump:  North Korea would not meet with Obama.

Biden:  Defends Obama.

Trump:  Obama left him a mess on North Korea.

8:45 PM Trump asked about ObamaCare.  ObamaCare needs to be replaced.  Pre-existing conditions will be protected.  Need to come up with an improvement on ObamaCare.  Charges that Biden will do away with private insurance.  (Used mute button to cut Trump off.)

Biden-Will improve ObamaCare.  Claims that he will protect private insurance.  Says that Trump will not protect pre-existing conditions.

Biden-Asked about socialized medicine.  Denies it, and then promptly says that health care is a right.

Trump-There for 47 years and didn’t do it.  His Veep wants socialized medicine.  The Dems in Congress want socialized medicine.

Biden-Needs to spend money to improve healthcare:  750  billion over ten years.

Trump-Accuses him of socialized medicine again.

Biden-Denies it.  Accuses Trump of  bankrupting social security.

Trump-Stock market rising will crash under Biden.

Biden-Trump cares only about the stock market.

8:55 PM-Trump asked about relief bill.  Says that Pelosi will not pass it because of politics.

Biden-House passed a bill and Trump will not support it.  (Biden continually says “come on”.  Annoying.)

Trump-The Democrats bill had little to do with covid, but a bailout for poorly run states.

Biden-Is all in favor of bailing out the states.  Wants to increase the minimum wage.

Trump-Minimum wage should be a state option,  Will hurt small businesses and lead to more employment.

Biden-People need a minimum wage of 15.00 per hour.

9:00 PM-Trump-immigration question.  The Obama administration built the cages.  Plan to reunite the kids with their parents.

Biden-Their parents brought the kids across the border.

Trump-Who built the cages Joe.

Biden-Asked about immigration reform.  Within a hundred days will have a path to citizenship for eleven million illegals.  We owe the dreamers.  Biden getting tired, beginning to slur words.

Trump-Brings up catch and release.

Biden-Claims that illegals would show up for their hearings.

Trump-Attacks on catch and release again.  They did not come back Joe.

9:05PM Race-the talk.  (Questions exclusively from the Left.)

Biden-Talks about systemic racism.  Demagogue, as always appealing to racial paranoia.  America has never lived up to the ideal of all men created equal.  Biden will save them.

Trump-47 years.  Brings up the 1994 crime bill of Biden.  No President has done more for blacks since Lincoln than Trump.  Talks about criminal justice reform.  Prison reform.  Opportunity zones.  Ten year long term funding for black colleges.

Biden-Claims that he never said anything about super predators.  Talks about the Central Park Five.  Biden becoming less coherent.  Defends the Obama administration record.

 

Trump-Why didn’t he do this when he was Veep or when he was in the Senate.

Biden-Word salad.

Trump-Biden is a corrupt politician.

Biden-Russian scheme in regard to the lap top.

Trump-Lap top is a Russian hoax?  Nails Biden on this.

Trump-Asked about BLM.  Mentions their chant:  Pigs in a blanket fry them like blanket.

9:15PM-Biden-Calls Trump a racist.

Trump-Biden has done nothing for blacks.

Biden asked about his crime bill.  Biden says it was a mistake.  Should not send anyone to jail for a drug offense.

Trump-Returns to the theme again that Biden is a do nothing politician.  All talk and no action.  Trump is pummeling him on this.

Climate Change

9:20PM-Trump-loves environment.  We cannot sacrifice millions of jobs for the Paris Accords.  China and Russia were allowed to pollute.

Biden-Climate change existential threat to humanity.  Good jobs courtesy of the green economy.  Plan will create 18.6 million jobs.

Trump:  His plan will cost each American family 6500.  The squad came up with the plan.  Plan is crazy.  Want to spend a hundred trillion dollars.

Biden:  Denies it will cost a hundred trillion dollars.  Windmills good.

Trump:  Country is energy independent.  Wind power is costly and unreliable.  Solar not there yet.  Trump brings up fracking.

Biden: Lies and denies he wants to ban fracking.

Trump:  He is against fracking.

Trump:  Asked about people living near oil wells and environmental protection.  (Weird question.)  Trump defends the record of his administration.

Biden:  He will save the people living near oil refineries.  Poor Joe grew up in bad environmental conditions.

Trump:  Gets Biden to admit that he will transition from the oil industry.  Trump scores!

Biden:  Must move to net zero.

Trump:  Must make a nation completely successful.  He gave the nation the best economy in history and he will do it again.

Biden:  He will be a President for all the people.  Choose science over fiction.  Make things better with clean energy.  Character of the nation is on the ballot.

 

Not a bad debate.  Thoughts tomorrow.  I would note that I listened to the debate rather than watched it.

 

 

 

 

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Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Thursday, October 22, AD 2020 5:07pm

Yes indeed…Trump having Tony Bobulinski is poetic.
The president isn’t short on moxie.

Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Thursday, October 22, AD 2020 7:20pm

Trump is wiping the floor with Biden so far.

Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Thursday, October 22, AD 2020 7:39pm

Iran, the same Iran that received billions in cash from the Obama Administration, will pay a price under a Biden Administration. What? Ten million in kickbacks?

Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Thursday, October 22, AD 2020 7:58pm

Trump’s doing so well the moderator is starting to channel Chris Wallace.

Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Thursday, October 22, AD 2020 8:30pm

Anyone who is old enough to remember the 1970s knows that the whole man-made climate change claim is a scam.

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