Patricia Smith spoke at the Republican Convention. She was lied to face to face by Hillary Clinton as to why her son died during the Benghazi attack. The media largely ignored her speech or mentioned it in passing during their coverage of the Convention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG0K_9RDeFE
Khizr Khan spoke at the Democrat Convention. His son, an Army Captain, was killed in Iraq in 2004. He has never met Donald Trump in his life. He used his speech to attack Trump on the issue of Muslim immigration. The media has been playing up his speech ever since he gave it.
The candidates and the issues may change, but the media will always have their ink stained thumbs on the scales for the Democrat in a Presidential election year.
Muslim Lives Matter!
Democrats and Muslims – is there a difference?
If Trump couldn’t foresee this Dem move, he’s losing edge with age. Trump should have foreseen this and should have had a liberal mosque Muslim couple at his convention affirm the concept of extreme vetting of Muslims to keep the sharia-over-all Muslims out of the country along with terrorists.
I subscribe to the ny times for data detail and secondly recipes,art etc….I abhor their op eds which don’t seep into their data reporting ordinarily but they do with Trump. Their articles on this were totally anti Trump and misled on the exact way Trump asserted/asked about the wife’s silence. But Trump is entertaining all of us who are tired of political correctness. He’s like Dr. Lightman in ” Lie to Me” on netflix. He is willing to offend in this case voting groups in order to address a problem others are sugar coating.
But why didn’t Trump foresee this chess move? Fortunately the Khan couple per the liberal media were the stars of the Dem convention….not Hillary, not Obama, not Bill who never should have said that in 1971 he met a girl….I honestly wondered which girl when I first heard that sentence….then I understood but after about 7 seconds.
Bill, The entire Dem convention was 100% BS and guerrilla theatre.
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President Trump got media omissions and yawns when he allowed to address the GOP Convention the mother of a Benghazi KIA.
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If I were running President Trump’s campaign, he’d feature the parents of two GI’s killed and 14 wounded by Sgt. Hasan Akbar two days after the 2003 Iraq War began. And, parents of the 13 murdered by Major Hasan. And of four murdered Marine recruiters of Chattanooga.
They were not the only speakers at the DNC that were played up by the press. I remember the first speaker I saw was an entertainment “A lister” who admitted her problems with mental illness but was endorsing Hillary. Was this irony lost on everyone but me?
Then there are a lot of other “A listers” who are like a rogues gallery of deviant behavior but are also all for Hillary. I suppose a tolerance for any behavior is a real positive with most of the hollywood crowd. Heaven forbid we ever use them as bad examples of the kind of lives that should not be lived. I have little problem with what they choose to do, but when they try to sell their life choices to others it is very problematic.
At this point, Trump should publicly ask the Khan couple if they oppose extreme vetting of muslims coming from terror related areas ( his revised position). Why should they object? Their son was trying to kill Muslims of a certain mindset….Trump only wants them to stay where they are. So their son was trying to kill them…Trump is only trying to excluded them but Trump is worse ?… than their son who was trying to kill them.
Once again we have to deal with the dishonesty of the media.
I would have liked to say “just the facts, ma’am” à la Dragnet’s Joe Friday, to Judy Woodruff and Gwen Ifil as I watched parts of the conventions.
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PBS doesn’t just ignore the mom and loved ones who lost people at Benghazi, They act very superior and just can’t believe the “intense animus” – Mara Liaison
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2016/07/19/pbs-freaks-out-benghazi-moms-allegedly-unprecedented-intense-animus
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http://newsbusters.org/journalists/judy-woodruff
Why is no one pointing out that this mother is living in modern day slavery? She has her head covered demonstrating her lack of equality with her husband. She has not assimilated.
Agreed, Christian Teacher. Why is it so controversial to want to limit immigration from areas with dysfunctional cultures?
How did I know this info was going to come out about this family?
http://shoebat.com/2016/07/31/what-the-media-is-not-telling-you-about-the-muslim-who-attacked-donald-trump-he-is-a-muslim-brotherhood-agent-who-wants-to-advance-sharia-law-and-bring-muslims-into-the-united-states/
Don’t-cha-know the Libs just HATE alternative media!
Ginny said:
“Agreed, Christian Teacher. Why is it so controversial to want to limit immigration from areas with dysfunctional cultures?”
I think it is because the elitist Left that is in control of all of our foundations of civilization s.a. the govt, the media, secular education (& a lot of religious education,) many main stream Protestant and Catholic Churches/institutions, civic organizations, NGOs, etc., hate our Judea/Christian heritage and will do anything to destroy it. This includes legal & illegal immigration of those who hate our Judea/Christian heritage.
Ginny,
Sorry. I am typing on a cell phone & tend to make errors as a result. I meant to say
“I think it is because the elitist Leftt who control society’s foundational institutions s.a. the govt, the media, secular education (& a lot of religious education,) many main stream Protestant and Catholic Churches/institutions, civic organizations, NGOs, and etc., hate our Judea/Christian heritage and will do anything to destroy it. This includes legal & illegal immigration of those who hate our Judea/Christian heritage if it will help to accomplish their purpose. I don’t believe the Left cares how many terrorist attacks we have or how many people die as long as they are not affected.
“She has her head covered demonstrating her lack of equality with her husband. She has not assimilated.”
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I had my head covered at Divine Liturgy today. It was a small chapel cap. Veils are gaining in popularity with the younger crowd who haven’tfled the Church for Protestantism-often these folks prefer the Tridentine Mass. (Granted, I think the stories of rapid, tremendous growth in the traditional community may be exagerated). Does that make us unequal to our husbands? And do we really want to assimilate?
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I don’t veil as often as I did. In fact today was the first time in weeks. I’ve gotten to be somewhat uncomfortable with veiling, because I do think it has become more of a political statement and less of a modesty issue.
Me too DJH- I don’t wear a chapel veil or a hat because I am not equal to my husband, I wear it out of reverence for Our Lord and – it helps me with reverence. Kneeling for communion is also out of respect for Him, and it also helps me keep my mind and heart more aware.
I think that was a dumb insinuation for Mr. Trump to make.
Thanks for your response, Christian Teacher. I understand civil religion in place of Christianity, and authorizing the state to overrule dictates of consciences, a la Rousseau, but the anti-God forces are at work also in the Vatican. God must grant us strength from above, and He will, to those who remain steadfast, but I fear many souls will be lost. It is terrifying.
“I had my head covered at Divine Liturgy today. It was a small chapel cap. Veils are gaining in popularity with the younger crowd who haven’tfled the Church for Protestantism-often these folks prefer the Tridentine Mass. (Granted, I think the stories of rapid, tremendous growth in the traditional community may be exagerated). Does that make us unequal to our husbands? And do we really want to assimilate?
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I don’t veil as often as I did. In fact today was the first time in weeks. I’ve gotten to be somewhat uncomfortable with veiling, because I do think it has become more of a political statement and less of a modesty issue
Stop this bovine feces. You know good & well that Muslim women do not cover their heads everywhere for the same reason a Christian covers theirs in church. If you think they have the same reason as you–please educate yourself on this topic.
“Me too DJH- I don’t wear a chapel veil or a hat because I am not equal to my husband, I wear it out of reverence for Our Lord and – it helps me with reverence. Kneeling for communion is also out of respect for Him, and it also helps me keep my mind and heart more aware.
I think that was a dumb insinuation for Mr. Trump to make.”
It was a completely reasonable and factual statement to make considering this woman’s Muslim Faith. Exactly what would you think her message was if not that?
DHJ & Analyze,
Do you think the DNC is equal to aCatholic Mass? Maybe this was a religious experience for this Muslim woman and that is why she was covered. *sarcasm*
Have either of you ladies looked at the link I posted with info published by her husband? He is a radical Muslim.
Interestingly enough, I have recently seen a huge bill board put up in a poor, inner city area of Little Rock, Arkansas, that had a representation of Mary, the mother of Jesus, with a long, white head covering similar to what is seen on Mary in most Western manger scenes (Christmas) that was put up by the largest Muslim organization in the state. The ad on this huge billboard compared Muslim women covering themselves to Mary. The ad flatly stated that Holy Mary covered herself for the same reason that Muslim women cover themselves. I was absolutely sickened upon seeing this false comparison for a number of reasons. One reason is that many Muslims despise Jews to the maximum degree. Another was that I felt this billboard was a blantant recruiting tool in a part of town where there is a lot of crime and lack of knowledge about such things.
I have also heard someone make a comparison between my grandmother’s generation & my mother’s generation, who were adults in the 1920s and 1950s, respectively, wearing head scarves to Muslim women wearing them. This also is a sickening comparison in my eyes. My grandmother and mother wore scarves to protect themselves and their hair from the elements–with no religious, political, theological, or philosophical purposes whatsoever. They wore head scarves much as I use an umbrella and ear muffs, today.
I, as a woman, am very concerned about the modern day enslavement of women in the modern world and in our country. Making Muslim women cover themselves is a big part of this and symbolizes this IMHO. There are a myriad of oppressive social, religious, political, and philosophical connections to these Muslim head coverings that down grade women in Muslim societies despite the emphasis in our Leftist culture that is trying to paint Islam as only a “religion of peace.”
And Muslim women with their head coverings are not allowed to worship in the same location as Myslim men in their mosques-anywhere to my knowledge. They are separated and often required to worship in inferior circumstances to the men in the mosque. This is well known, public information. When a Catholic woman covers her head out of respect in a Catholic mass she is not required to worship apart from her husband, and other make family members, nor in a location that is dirty or without air conditioning, if the church has it, to my knowledge. There is a world of difference.
The assertion was made by Khan and later by Megyn Kelly that Trump’s immigration policies re. Muslims would have kept away a patriot soldier who died for America. The glaring fallacy of that assertion is that Khan’s son immigrated when he was a toddler: and in those days we did not have Muslim terrorists popping off innocent folks; and we did not have to visualize a terrorist in every Muslim face.
Maybe this was a religious experience for this Muslim woman and that is why she was covered. *sarcasm*
Muslim head-covering is cultural, not religious.
Like various Jewish groups where women cover their hair, and for the same reason. Same reason I don’t wear a bikini, and didn’t when it wouldn’t be more of a threat.
It’s possible that she doesn’t want to be covered; given that she’s in the US and that leaving any group trying to make her do so is an option, it’s more likely y’all are playing the part of the Mean Girls in high school that rag on the girls that don’t show enough flesh.
Christian Teacher – That article implied that Khan’s son was an Islamic terrorist who got killed before he got the chance to kill Americans. That’s really obnoxious.
Whatever else is obnoxious about Khan and his venting, I believe too many words and theories and anger are being directed at his wiife’s having her head covered. She is a Muslim, appearing in public; she predictably covers her head. Those who are acquainted with living in other countries e.g. India and Pakistan and others in that region will know that covering the head s a common cultural occurrence, with Muslims and non-Muslms. It is NOT a statement of defiance. We need to concentrate on the nonsense spewing from the Democrats who are using these folks, albeit without much coercion.
I’m kind of worried about Mr. Khan’s possible promotion of a Muslim Brotherhood allied group, given that he’s doing this in support of Hillary and that Hillary’s aid Huma has well known ties to that group and its allies.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/312211/huma-abedins-muslim-brotherhood-ties-andrew-c-mccarthy
“Muslim head-covering is cultural, not religious.”
More bovine feces. Muslim’s religion IS their culture. If you think I am wrong, please describe exactly what it is in their “culture” that requires them to be covered?
“Whatever else is obnoxious about Khan and his venting, I believe too many words and theories and anger are being directed at his wiife’s having her head covered.”
What is obnoxious is that Muslims hold women in modern day slavery–of which head coverings are a sign.
“Christian Teacher – That article implied that Khan’s son was an Islamic terrorist who got killed before he got the chance to kill Americans. That’s really obnoxious.”
Very interesting that you only pick this “implication” out of the article don’t mention other issues. It says a whole lot.
The Christian Teacher (ironic!) seems to like “bovine feces”. Ignorance can be tolerated, but not empty hubris. To educate or re-educate The Christian Teacher will perhaps be a formidable task. For beginners, the term “hijab” for a simple covering of the head can be a misnomer. Suggest some serious reading to get educated. PS: I am not a Muslim, but as traditional a Catholic as they come. It happens that I have lived for decades where a simple head veil is not a statement for Islam.
Interesting that the Khans were both wearing vibrant blue – hmmm blue states vs red states. The Khans’ stage appearance was expertly orchestrated by the Dem convention Hollywood producers. Mrs. Khan had to look the part of a Pakistani Muslim wife.
Muslin head coverings can be cultural as part of native dress or religious or both or practical as a means of keeping the sun off of one’s head, dust off the hair or sanitary reasons as when preparing food. In some countries it may signal if a female is a woman (past puberty) or married. In the home or out in public is another factor.
there is a tradition of navy wives wearing hats to outdoor ceremonies. My husband loves to see me in hats and has surprised me with several. I am comfortable wearing one having been a WAVE officer. I will wear a hat to Mass if I feel like it and always wear a hat to daytime weddings and funerals as a sign of respect. Wearing a brimmed hat in the sun to prevent skin damage and a head covering in cold weather is just plain smart.
It says what, exactly? The whole article felt thin, but the part I mentioned should have been a deal-breaker for anyone. If I have the time, I’d like to look over the claims of the article, but I can tell you that I’d never link to something so offensive, and yes, the fact that the authors (who I’ve never heard of) would say something like that without even bothering to support it does make me question the value of anything they wrote.
There was a tiny Indian woman in the pew in front of me yesterday, in traditional robe and head covering.
A resource that quotes the passage in the Koran requiring that women cover their heads.
http://www.islamic.org.uk/hijab.html
A woman’s “place” under Islam.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/men-in-charge-of-women.aspx
Another article on the goings on with the gold star, Muslim father.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/khan-specializes-in-visa-programs-accused-of-selling-u.s.-citizenship/article/2598279?custom_click=rss
The Christian Teacher-
your assertion doesn’t have a thing to do with the head-covering being cultural.
Those Muslim groups which are most toxic do come from those cultures where women cover themselves more than we do, in modern times, in the West. The only place that religion comes into it is those toxic groups enforcing “modesty” in ever-more irrational levels.
You don’t even rise to the level of argument by appeal to mockery, because you can’t even manage to answer what people are saying.
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Sydney O Fernandes –
Can’t force someone to learn.
If they were interested in the topic, they’d know that in living memory women covered their hair in formal situations– that’s most commonly associated with church, and to this day in some churches you must have a church-hat, but you’ll notice he didn’t bother to respond to the tiny little detail about Jewish ladies. It wasn’t that long ago that no decent man went out bare-headed.
But some nasty groups of Muslims do it, so it’s gotta be evil, and apply to all of the bad Muslims and only Muslims.
Pay no attention to the Biblical and bible-era related cultural norms about having uncovered hair signaling you were looking for a man, and thus married women or those who were not looking for male companionship (honorable or otherwise) had their hair covered.
More info:
“But until now, it looked like the Khans were just Gold Star parents who the big bad Donald Trump attacked. It turns out, however, in addition to being Gold Star parents, the Khans are financially and legally tied deeply to the industry of Muslim migration–and to the government of Saudi Arabia and to the Clintons themselves.”
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/01/clinton-cash-khizr-khans-deep-legal-financial-connections-saudi-arabia-hillarys-clinton-foundation-connect-terror-immigration-email-scandals/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
My belief – the choice of the Muslim Khans for Gold Star Parents was a planned set up for Trump and he stepped right in it. Khan’s speech was mostly an attack on Trump and Trump has said that if someone attacks him, he is going to attack back. And he did. Now an emotional K. Khan is on the media circuit and the audience sees and hears a grieving parent of a war hero. There’s no mention of Khan’s immigration practice or what he said about Trump Thurs. night.
The Trump campaign better smarten up. More important – The Donald needs to think before he opens his mouth or tweets. Or better yet keep silent when he is baited.
“My belief – the choice of the Muslim Khans for Gold Star Parents was a planned set up for Trump and he stepped right in it.”
Bingo.
I apologize in advance.
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Truth.
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If Trump was one of the smart kids, e.g., Hillary, he’d have quickly shot back, “What has Hillary sacrificed?” Then, provide an answer, “For one, she actively promoted and voted for that tragic war. The poor man’s son would be alive today if I was president in 2003,”
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Pray for the conversion of America.
…and also: Pray for Trump,especially his conversion to be truly pro-life. Pray for Pence. Pray for the selection of an astute, strong WH Chief of Staff. Pray for Republican victories throughout America. Holy Spirit, enlighten them. Amen.
CAM, Amen!
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In the end, all we have are faith, hope, love, prayer, and (purchased at high cost with Christ’s Life, Death and Resurrection) the rewards of eternal life. It is sufficient.