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PopeWatch: Archbishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo

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Regarding these responses by Argentinian Archbishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, a close friend of Pope Francis, to questions posed by Stefano Gennarini of C-Fam writing at C-Fam’s Turtle Bay and Beyond, PopeWatch has just one question:  What is in the water in Argentina?

 

Following last month’s appearance of Jeffrey Sachs and Ban Ki-moon at a Vatican conference on climate change several catholic intellectuals as well as pro-life news sources were puzzled about the Vatican giving a platform to the world’s foremost proponents of abortion and population control. I thought it could be useful to know what the organizers of the conference thought of the concerns so I reached out to them.

Below are the replies of Archishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, Chancelor of the Ponitifical Academies of Science and Social Sciences, which hosted the “Protect the Earth, Dignify Humanity” conference at the Vatican last month. Sánchez Sorondo initially apologized for the late reply, which resulted in me writing that the prelate had not replied to my enquiry last week, and then responded to my query at some length. The original questions and replies were in Italian.

Q. Were you aware before your collaboration with Sachs at the Vatican of his public position on abortion in the book “Commonwealth”, where he says abortion is a “low-cost” and “low-risk” intervention to reduce fertility in the event that contraceptives fail?

Sánchez Sorondo (S.S.) I’ve just come back from Argentina, where I attended a conference to combat new forms of slavery, like human trafficking, forced labor, prostitution, and organ trafficking, which I consider, together with Pope Francis and Pope Benedict, to be a crime against humanity. Unfortunately, there is not only the drama of abortion, but there are also all these other dramas, in which you should also be interested, because they are closely related. The climate crisis leads to poverty and poverty leads to new forms of slavery and forced migration, and drugs, and all this can also lead to abortion.

Q. Several Catholic intellectuals and media sources criticized your decision to collaborate with Ban Ki-moon and Jeffrey Sachs on climate change, because of their positions on abortion and population control. Do you have any reply to these concerns?

S.S. The Tea Party and all those whose income derives from oil have criticized us, but not my superiors, who instead authorized me, and several of them participated.

Q. Undoubtedly, you discussed Ban Ki-moon’s and Jeffrey Sachs’ position on abortion and population control in the lead up to the conference. How were any questions resolved?

S.S. Yes. We had these discussions, and as you can see, the draft SDGs (Sustainable Development Goals) don’t even mention abortion or population control. They speak of access to family planning and sexual and reproductive health and reproductive rights. The interpretation and application of these depends on governments. Some may even interpret it as Paul VI, in terms of responsible paternity and maternity. Instead of attacking us, why not enter into dialogue with these “demons” to maybe make the formulation better, like we did on the issues of social inclusion and new forms of slavery?

Go here to read the rest.  Mendacious, evasive and leftist doctrinaire would be a charitable interpretation of these snide responses..  That such a creature is at the head the Pontifical Academies of Science and Social Sciences illustrates how deep the intellectual and spiritual rot goes at the very top in the Church.

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Donald R. McClarey

Cradle Catholic. Active in the pro-life movement since 1973. Father of three and happily married for 35 years. Small town lawyer and amateur historian. Former president of the board of directors of the local crisis pregnancy center for a decade.

26 Comments

  1. Yes, yes, I get it. Another true son of the Church. But, “Who am I to judge?” neither implies the lack of a judge or that one won’t be judged.

  2. “Who am I to judge?”

    “The Tea Party and all those whose income derives from oil have criticized us…”

    They judge, just those who disagree with their political objectives.

  3. “The Tea Party and all those whose income derives from oil have criticized us, but not my superiors, who instead authorized me, and several of them participated.”
    .
    Anthropomorphic global warrming was fabricated by so-called “climate” scientists handsomely paid by British nucular power lobbyists in Britain in the 1950’s.
    .

    Not only judgmental, but about every aspect completely false. In fact, coal and oil, inexpensive electricity-generation have lifted billions out of poverty. The greens would not only kill off excess (sounds like eugenics) children of God, their taxpayer subsidiized overly-expensive green boondoggles will return billions (ones they allow to be born) to fall back into penury and destitution.

    .
    But,

  4. Anthropomorphic global warrming was fabricated by so-called “climate” scientists hired out by British nucular power lobbyists in Britain in the 1950’s.
    .

    “The Tea Party and all those whose income derives from oil have criticized us, but not my superiors, who instead authorized me, and several of them participated.”

    .

    Not only judgmental, but completely false. In fact, coal and oil are inexpensive electricity-generation resources which have lifted billions of God’s children out of poverty. The greens would not only kill off excess (sounds like eugenics) children of Eve, their taxpayer subsidized, overly-expensive green boondoggles (sun beams, unicon farts and zephyrs) will return billions (of the ones they deign to let be born) to fall back into penury and destitution.

    .
    “PEACE AND JUSTICE!!!”, he shrieked as he washed the steaming blood from his hands.

  5. The climate crisis leads to poverty and poverty leads to new forms of slavery and forced migration, and drugs, and all this can also lead to abortion.

    *headdesk*

    An effect they can’t even show gets labeled a “crisis,” asserted as the cause of poverty– rather than really insane Christian heresies like socialism– and popped up to the level of stopping the killing of babies.

  6. The POTUS in his commencement speech yesterday is timing things closely to Vatican pronouncements so more of this nonsense is coming from the “occupy Vatican” crowd. From the Vatican SOS Cardinal Parolin:

    “When the future of the planet is at stake, there are no political frontiers, barriers or walls behind which we can hide to protect ourselves from the effects of environmental and social degradation. There is no room for the globalisation of indifference, the economy of exclusion or the throwaway culture so often denounced by Pope Francis. Of course, the path is not easy, since this ethical and moral responsibility calls into question the resetting of the development model, requiring a major political and economic commitment. However, as I said to the UN Climate Summit on 23 September 2014, ‘the technological and operational bases needed to facilitate this mutual responsibility are already available or within our reach. We have the capacity to start and strengthen a true and beneficial process which will irrigate, as it were, through adaptation and mitigation activities, the field of economic and technological innovation where it is possible to cultivate two interconnected objectives: combating poverty and easing the effects of climate change’”.

  7. Paraphrasing Paul VI, …from some fissure the smoke of Satan has entered the temple of God.” There is doubt, incertitude, problematic, disquiet, dissatisfaction, confrontation. There is no longer trust of the Church; they trust the first profane prophet who speaks in some journal or some social movement, and they run after him and ask him if he has the formula of true life. And we are not alert to the fact that we are already the owners and masters of the formula of true life. Doubt has entered our consciences, and it entered by windows that should have been open to the light. Science exists to give us truths that do not separate from God, but make us seek him all the more and celebrate him with greater intensity; instead, science gives us criticism and doubt. Scientists are those who more thoughtfully and more painfully exert their minds. But they end up teaching us: “I don’t know, we don’t know, we cannot know.”

  8. PAPAL BULL

    God does not control the weather any more
    It’s the Pagans, Club of Rome and Albert Gore,
    Will our Head Honcho in a Poncho see fit
    To proclaim Global Warming Holy Writ;
    Is he about to demonise CO2
    By ending black smoke emissions from his flue,
    Must we now pray to the pagan goddess Gaia
    Ignore Christmas – feast with Saturnalia.

    I once learned the Ten Commandments at the knee
    Of a Mother who explained the Didache,
    Prior to the miracle of electric light
    She could not teach her brood reading in the night;
    So if this Pontiff says Africans must stay
    In fuel poverty – its their Auto – de – fe,
    All those fossil fuels are theirs and bountiful
    Not to exploit them – is just more Papal Bull.

    His Holiness should stick to promoting God
    Instead of promoting scientific fraud,
    How can the poor gain a title to this earth
    When denied the means by energetic dearth;
    Since Global Warming stopped in ninety seven
    Voodoo climate scientists appeal to heaven,
    Their unending swill of money in the trough
    Should not the shorn sheep finally switch off?

    Will Pope Francis instruct every Catholic
    To believe the new Creed of the Hockey Stick,
    Reprinting our Bibles in a shade of green
    Ignoring the teachings of the Nazarene;
    Deifying Mother Earth and the occult
    For our sins of Emissions and the Indult,
    I’ll stick to my faith in the God of Passion
    Ignoring the Unsustainable fashion.

    We are told – ignore the warming of the sun
    George Orwell foresaw Agenda Twenty One,
    The Master Plan – control the population
    For Climate Realists – Excommunication;
    Papal dabbling in this science of ill repute
    Will turn Mother Church into a prostitute,
    So as we await the next Encyclical
    Ignore junk – be it Ecclesiastical.

    Patrick Healy

    As I am writing this as an Irish (slightly) ex Catholic living in Scotland, where our local Parish has enthusiastically embraced the Paganism of Man Made Global Warming, I would recommend to any bloggers on this site to visit http://www.planetshifter.com/node/1724 and see the extent to which the Faith of our Fathers has been compromised by the Satanists in our midsts.
    This is particularly applicable to my American co-religionists.
    May God be with us.

  9. IMHO could he sound any more ridiculous than to single out the Tea Party ? He’s supposedly an expert on science and social sciences. I would think politics and economics might qualify as social science. At least economics does. Anyway it did in the college I attended and where I majored in economics. BTW, is there any relationship between the Peace and Justice part of the Vatican and the Social Sciences Academy ? You would think there might be. PPS – To be chancellor of both Science (assume meaning natural sciences, technology, etc.) and Social Science is a lot of territory. I wasn’t aware the disciplines had a lot in common, except perhaps to approach the subject matter in as objective and “scientific” a manner as possible. Also, wonder who these “superiors” are who authorized him to conduct the conference in the manner in which he did…

  10. Where I worked one of the V.P’s had a BULLS–T stamp. It was used on memo’s he didn’t agree with. I think the same stamp could be used on most of the stuff now coming out of the Vatican. Great time saver. Efficiency is a kind of virtue.

  11. The title of the conference was; Protect the Earth, Dignify Humanity.

    Nothing more dignified than ripping out the future of humanity. Abortions are…what was Sorondo’s word?…oh “drama.” Abortion drama. Wow.

    Thanks for ( clearing that up ) for us Archbishop.

    Papal Bull was appreciated Patrick Healy

  12. Abortion drama bad…..climate change drama good. The bitter and cynical irony is that the leftists link their climate change issue with the need for more “reproductive health”, fewer children, more abortions, more statist control over the minutiae of our daily lives.

  13. “Concentration Camp drama.”

    The frightening correlation…Pro-Aborts & Nazis. They have this deprived mentality that they offer so much to the human race while killing it off.

    War on women is akin to the Final Solution. Both were/are lies that both camps bought. The final solution exterminated the Nazis because they possessed the “answer” that was only a lie. War on women is another lie that is doomed to failure because the women they are murdering in their own wombs is the actual battlefield, the true war on humanity. Feminist will be looked upon as infamously as the SS. It’s just a matter of time.

  14. “Occupy Vatican” is now going full bore propaganda with Pope Francis meeting with big multi national executives and Cardinal Turkel and other prelates making advance statements to the press.

    It looks like Archbishop Sorondo in his interview statement quoted above is following the Obama playbook recently unveiled at commencement speeches at USMA and USCGA. Instead of blaming global warming for terrorism though, Sorondo blames the increase in abortions on global warming.

    What is happening? Can the Barque be this far adrift? It should be clear to any clear thinking Catholic that the Vatican has gone full merger with the UN and the global corporatists, the statist, the Marxist, and almost every ideology of modernity over this global warming farce.

  15. His tortured logic about Tea Partys and slavery and poverty being caused by global warming is just insane. He talks like he just left a Moveon.org meeting. The Pope is filling the Vatican with bizarre people.

  16. This is a time when saints are made. Where are all members of the clergy who disagree with our dear leader Pope Francis-un? I know that many have eliminated and silenced in the best Kremlin style tradition, but there should be a few potential martyrs, who in the interests of saving their souls and ours would hopefully speak up.

  17. Due to the over-used and all too recognizable talking point responses, I genuinally thought (hoped?) this was one of the spoof articles occasionally posted, especially when I read “Tea Party.”

    I’m shocked and saddened that it is not.

  18. I wish the interview had covered the question of why the climate alarmists believe a warmer earth to be a more malevolent earth for human beings.

    another question I would have like to seen addressed is why the models that appear to be the primary rationale for opposing the use of carbon based fuels have failed to be any way predictive in regards to climate trends.

    if the models are failures in predicting the climate five or ten years out, why should they be relied upon for predicting the climate fifty, a hundred or five hundred years out?

  19. CO2 in the atmosphere would have to be 150 times greater than it is now to be fatal to human beings.

    CO2 in the atmosphere is about twice what it was prior to the industrial revolution. yet the earth’s temperature is said to be about one half degree Celsius greater than it was prior to the industrial revolution.

    and, none of this discussion has addressed in any way the consistency and accuracy of those measuring the earth’s temperature. I would hope we could all agree that, at the least, seven billion humans will introduce more heat on to the earth than did the one billion humans living prior to the industrial revolution.

    are the climate alarmists seriously saying that we should continue our population growth without creating more heat from staying alive?

    or, are they saying all of the heat produced to keep people alive has no bearing when measuring the earth’s temperature?

    could it be that any rise in the earth’s temperature has nothing to do with the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere but is instead simply a result of how much heat human beings produce simply through the act of staying alive?

    there are so many questions that the climate alarmists do not answer or, perhaps have no answers to because the questions themselves have never occurred to the climate alarmists.

    I hope someone at the Vatican at least has the knowledge to provide francis with the unanswered questions before he goes relying on a rather shallow scientific examination of the issue when discussing man’s dominion over the earth.

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