Obama’s Gay Military

 

 

Opponents of the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” , a policy to keep out of the closet homosexuals from serving in the military, predicted that such a repeal would be merely a first step, and they have proved prophetic:

 

Last summer, gays in the military dared not acknowledge their sexual orientation. This summer, the Pentagon will salute them, marking June as gay pride month just as it has marked other celebrations honoring racial or ethnic groups.

In the latest remarkable sign of change since the military repealed the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, the Defense Department will soon hold its first event to recognize gay and lesbian troops. It comes nine months after repeal of the policy that had prohibited gay troops from serving openly and forced more than 13,500 service members out of the armed forces.

Details are still being worked out, but officials say Defense Secretary Leon Panetta wants to honor the contributions of gay service members.

“Now that we’ve repealed ‘don’t ask, don’t tell,’ he feels it’s important to find a way this month to recognize the service and professionalism of gay and lesbian troops,” said Navy Capt. John Kirby, a spokesman.

This month’s event will follow a long tradition at the Pentagon of recognizing diversity in America’s armed forces. Hallway displays and activities, for example, have marked Black History Month and Asian-Pacific American Heritage Month.

Go here to read the rest.  This piece of bilge came out on the 237th birthday of the Army, which I found ironic.  None of this of course has anything to do with tolerance, or with the ability of the nation to field a military that can win wars.  It has everything to do with Obama being in a tough spot politically and doing everything possible to appeal to homosexuals who make up a disproportionate number of the big donors for his campaign.  This  has religious liberty ramifications as chaplains have been coming under increasing pressure to adopt the “gay friendly” policy implemented by the Obma administration:

In the era of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, a number of support groups advocated for gay service members who feared backlash for speaking freely. But the repeal of the ban in late 2011 has not ushered in a new era of free speech; rather, now it is chaplains who say they are being muzzled by the military and a group has formed to pass legislation seeking relief on their behalf.
Army religious leaders were reassured in a 2011 briefing on the repeal prepared by their Army Chief of Chaplains that they would not have to alter their sermons or their faith systems in light of new policy. At the same time, the chaplains were reminded that they would be required to minister to all troops and advised that, if they had irreconcilable problems with the new status quo, they would be free to end their careers and leave the service.
Now, the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, a coalition of retired chaplains formed to support their active-duty counterparts in such situations, told Human Events it has collected anecdotal reports from a number of chaplains who say they have felt pressure from command leaders regarding how they express their beliefs about homosexuality. Go here to Human Events to read the rest.

 

This  is quite understandable.  Obama can gain few votes from those who care about religious liberty, and this is all about politics, which is a good short hand description of everything this kidney stone of an administration has done since its first day.

 

 

 

 

56 Responses to Obama’s Gay Military

  • Bonchamps says:

    I’ll tell you what this is really about. It is about finding one more way to equivocate homosexuality with racial groups, to make opposition to homosexuality as socially unacceptable as racism.

    I think it is time to start really exploring the extent to which the gay identity is socially and politically constructed.

  • Phillip says:

    Right Don. This was always a cultural issue – changing another institution to acceptance, and then endorsement, of homosexuality. Those who didn’t understand this don’t understand the methods of the radical left.

  • T. Shaw says:

    Question for General Foghorn:

    What does celebrating this crap have to do with the mission: destroying things and killing massive numbers of bad guys?

    In my opinion, 97% of our brave troops will be treated like puppy dogs that crap on the carpet and get their noses rubbed in this crap.

    This will be one huge negative both for mission orientation and unit cohesion.

  • Joe Green says:

    As one who actually served (very few if any of the Washington policymakers have), I can unequivocally say that having a queer within the ranks is at the least a distraction and at the worst disruptive of morale and unity. Of course that was back in 1959 when I was in boot camp at Great Lakes, Ill., and of the approximately 100 guys in our company it wasn’t hard to tell which one of us was a bit light in the shoes. He never made it all the way through the 8 weeks because of his disruptive behavior.

    A military unit must have cohesion and a clear objective and not be distracted by such attempts at social engineering for the sake of so-called “rights.” The Uniform Code of Military Justice governs the lives of servicemen and women and the rules, like them or not, are different than those in civilian society.

    There are age limits, weight and height and other criteria that determine one’s fitness to serve and homosexuality is an automatic disqualifier if one is to be true to the mission of the military. Unfortunately, all the traditional old soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines are dying out or deferring meekly to the likes of Obama, Panetta, et al, who are clueless about military life. Then perhaps they think someone has to bring up the rear.

  • Art Deco says:

    One of your more recent posts concerned a speech given to a convention of high school yearbook and newspaper staff by an obnoxious sex columnist. The contemporary liberal mindset is like the Borg. It recognizes no part of public life as having a legitimate dynamic, sensibility, or set of standards of its own. (And about this all of our Vichy Catholics and most of our Republican politicos are clueless).

  • Joe Green wrote, “I can unequivocally say that having a queer within the ranks is at the least a distraction and at the worst disruptive of morale and unity.”

    I mostly agree. There was one gay person on my submarine. He kept mostly to himself when we went on shore leave, though he was a great drinking buddy (alcohol being a favorite past time of sailors the world over regardless of sexual inclination). But when after entering port most of us directed our energies to the local brothels, he went out by himself to do what he wished with whom he wished, and no one of us made a fuss about it. What he did in a closet was none of our business (just as we didn’t want anyone to see what we were doing in a brothel, which is just as much a sin). But being gay, he never seemed to have the ambition to advance in rank or do anything really noteworthy (though he was one of the best sonarmen aboard). I really don’t know what makes people like this tick (nor do I want to know), just as long as they don’t parade themselves in public. They can make all the social contracts between themselves for medical care and visitation, inheritance, power of attorney, etc., that they want to. But what they do isn’t marriage and shouldn’t be celebrated at all. They are perverts, plain and simple. If they keep their activities to the closet where those activities belong, then I will be happy to ignore their sexual perversion. As regrettable as I find it to be, people have a right to send themselves to hell if that’s their wish (including unrepentent frequenters of brothels as well as sodomy perverts; after all, the same rules apply to everyone, sodomists, lesbians and whore mongers alike).

    Oh, but I am being unkind, unjust, divisive and intolerant by writing such words. Absolutely and proudly so! ;-)

  • Excellent, Art Deco and Donald M., excellent!

    “The contemporary liberal mindset is like the Borg. It recognizes no part of public life as having a legitimate dynamic, sensibility, or set of standards of its own. (And about this all of our Vichy Catholics and most of our Republican politicos are clueless).”

  • Foxfier says:

    Donald, that’s still one of my favorite speaches– villain has a point. (Of course, they were treated like terrorists because they WERE terrorists, and pursued so much because the Cardassians are prickly at best, but I still think he had a point….)

  • Chris Pennington says:

    I would be interested to see how this is all going to work out on a practical level.

    Will everyone still take showers together in bootcamp?

    At various training schools were bunks are in the open will they still be?

    We used to share canteens in the field, share MREs and engage in other such non-sexual male bonding. Engage in certain pranks and joke about each other. I have my opinions on how all of that will change, but I wonder how troop “bonding” will now be enforced.

    During afterhour’s barbecues and other events will soldiers bring their same sex partner? Will other have to watch them flirt and kiss? Will officers or enlisted wives clubs have to allow a partner of a gay soldier to join?

    How are they going to figure out who your bunkmate is going to be in the barracks? How will sexual harassment of non-gay soldiers by gay soldiers be handled?

    Will soldiers be allowed to talk about religion to each other? Will it be hate speech for two Catholic soldiers to talk about the latest sermon at church? Or will chaplains be told to refrain from preaching about “hate”?

    Lots of practical issues involved, it’s a big social engineering project that’s going to end very badly.

    Unfortunately, now that the genie is out of the bottle you cannot put him back in.

  • Joe Green says:

    Good points, Paul and Chris. Ever seen the sleeping quarters aboard ship? My son, who also was in the Navy, sailed with the USS Kitty Hawk for 2 years and they were stuffed in bunks like sardines. Although I’ve never been on a sub, it’s no doubt just as tight or tighter and a good night’s sleep after pulling a double shift is vital. A swabbie can’t be worried about the guy next to him while getting some much needed shuteye.

  • WK Aiken says:

    Make it easy – those who wish to identified as Gay soldiers, sailors and and airmen should wear the rainbow flag. Those who wish to be identified as American soldiers, sailors and airmen should wear the American flag.

  • PM says:

    There are drones to be relied upon, so now the objective of military service is sidetracked by internal humanism issues.

    ” Details are still being worked out, but officials say Defense Secretary Leon Panetta wants to honor the contributions of gay service members.

    “Now that we’ve repealed ‘don’t ask, don’t tell,’ he feels it’s important to find a way this month to recognize the service and professionalism of gay and lesbian troops,” said Navy Capt. John Kirby, a spokesman.

    This month’s event will follow a long tradition at the Pentagon of recognizing diversity in America’s armed forces. Hallway displays and activities, for example, have marked Black History Month and Asian-Pacific American Heritage Month. ”

    This reminds me of what became of education, when computers became the teaching modules.

    Thinking and doing done electronically for self absorbed humans.

  • Joe Green says:

    Kristin, easily identifiable most of the time especially in this day and age where they love to flaunt it. My comments were confined to military settings and situations where they don’t fit in, not to civilian life. Personally, I don’t care what people do in privacy, but when they’re perverted acts get too close to me or my family I have a problem. I don’t mean to be offensive but the sexual depravity displayed by homos is repugnant to normal people.

  • WK Aiken says:

    Kristin, your point is well taken. But if that were always or even most usually the case, there would be no issue. Gay servicepeople would refuse the effort as unnecessary and distratcive to their desire to simply serve as anybody else does. So it’s not our perception and treatment of gay servicepeople, but their behavior and desire to make a political issue that is, in fact, the issue.

  • Anzlyne says:

    where did you get that photo of those buff half naked men– not in combat clothes for sure.
    has the military ever had a month celebrating families or marriage or fidelity or Irish Catholics, or the G.A.R? : )

  • Valentin says:

    One of the problems with gays in the military is that it degrades the standard for soldiers form real men to slaves of passion which makes the military look less and less honourable.
    The problem I have with woman soldiers in the military is something different, I think the problem with women soldiers is that they fight too well because the moment they find out that someone from Iraq might kill her children she would destroy the whole country, so my problem with women soldiers is that they are too effective, not ineffective soldiers.

  • Anzlyne says:

    I think the O administration move is about politics– I don’t think he esp favors gays. and would throw them under the bus eventually if it suits the long term goal of transforming America and the world. Division. Loss of unity. But I think the nefarious plan will be foiled– in November.

  • Valentin says:

    I think the Star Trek clip helps explain why man would have been kicked out of paradise the reason being that God respected mans freedom to leave which is important because if God didn’t respect mans freedom he would be rejecting a Good part of man which is his freedom, and if man does not have freedom he can’t do good things freely, but the problem with Adam is that he rejected God and so kicked himself out of the country club.

  • Valentin says:

    Don as long as the military fights for abortion and allows homosexuality, it is sure going to fail just like Roman empire, the Third Reich, and the Soviet Union. God is all Good and all Evil that gets in the way gets destroyed by Good.

  • Greg Mockeridge says:

    I”’ll tell you what this is really about. It is about finding one more way to equivocate homosexuality with racial groups, to make opposition to homosexuality as socially unacceptable as racism.”

    As it pertains to the military, it’s about a lot more than that. It’s mainly about undermining the cohesiveness and effectiveness of our military. One of the things absolutely crucial in the military is forming fraternal bonds within a given unit or division. I don’t think I need to tell you what happens when you throw sexual attraction into that mix. This is especially crucial aboard Navy ships where you have around eighty guys living in an area of the same size of an upscale suburban home or maybe even less. This is something I know from experience. I spent eight years in the Navy and five of those years I spent aboard ship. It’s like living in a men’s locker room.

    Furthermore, put yourself in the position of someone with same sex attraction (or even a practicing homosexual for that matter) who didn’t want to make an issue of their sexual inclinations (and believe it or not many of them don’t) you would not want to be put in that environment.

    This is why I favor going further than don’t ask don’t tell and reinstate the outright ban on homosexuals in the military that existed prior to DADT.

  • Chris Pennington says:

    On March 14, 1778, George Washington, then Commander in Chief of the Continental Army, approved the sentencing of LT Enslin on attempted sodomy of another soldier. General Washington called it an infamous crime to be viewed “with Abhorrence and Detestation”. He ordered Enslin “to be drummed out of Camp tomorrow morning by all the Drummers and Fifers in the Army never to return.”

    Read more here:
    Thomas Moore Law Center

    http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=adf1a83154acea60d091b413c&id=85f9425a1e&e=d853f80f1e

  • Greg Mockeridge says:

    Mr. Shaw:

    It’s gonna take a lot more than just this election to turn this around. I don’t see Romney having the stomach for it. It isn’t just the political part of the government, it’s the left wing careerists who control the bureaucracy.

  • T. Shaw says:

    GM: You are probably right.

    If Obama gets re-elected on the backs of lisping lieutenants and high school salutatorian invaders, America is finished.

    I’m preparing for that, too.

  • PM says:

    All I can think of for preparation is to include prayer for a happy death. How to prepare?
    The following list is from a post on Abyssus – Am sorry that I don’t know how to copy links to references and all – any way I just saw this article and thought how extremely beautiful the sound of the birds is this morning in what is becoming my little world.

    Vision to America News news@visiontoamerica.org

    Constitution, Government

    102 Comments

    Obama has signed 923 Executive Orders in 40 months! What did Congress do in those 40 months?

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates theof all persons. Postmaster General to operate a national registration

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

  • Mary De Voe says:

    PM No wonder Obama is so cocky about being re-elected. His has preempted the will of the people, Congress and the founding Principles. Executive Order 11004 “establish new locations for populations.” sounds like relocation to Auschwitz by Uncle Hitler.

  • Valentin says:

    PM I think one thing to prepare is if people have enough courage and hutzpah to figure what a new government (or rather governments) should do after the US collapse further than its society and economy, because it is real easy thinking of ways to take over the government it’s hard to figure out how to replace it and with what.

  • Navy Padre says:

    The Navy Chaplain Corps’s leadership last year tried to get the chaplains to sign on to the repeal of DADT by equating it with the kind of mutual cooperation already practiced by chaplains and faithful of different religions. (This was the approach taken by the, admittedly, not-very-bright head of the Reserves; without a doubt, though, he was following the line, if not the talking points, of the Chief of Chaplains et al.) One chaplain objected: Aren’t you equating religious beliefs in the one case with sexual behavior in the other? Additionally, we were all assured that homosexuality would never be regarded like ethnic groups (African-American, Hispanic, Native American, etc.), which are made the focus of interest and recognition throughout a month dedicated to the same. So now the fear is that we will receive regular emails next June with “Gay Pride” month facts, famous “gay” servicemembers, etc., all culminating in a command assembly celebrating “Gay and Lesbian” month. The which may God forbid!

  • Mary De Voe says:

    PM:EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 GRANTS authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

    If the Department of Justice fails to do what Executive Order 11310 tells them to do, then the Department of Justice is violating the Order. Obama is ordering the Department of Justice around and writing Executive Orders to enforce ordering the Department of Justice around. The Executive branch of Government does not order the Department of Justice around, nor does Obama have authority to authorize the Department of Justice to be the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice exists because the Constitution says that The Department of Justice exists. (And Alexander Hamilton thought that giving the Department of Justice free reign would beget tyranny. He did not foresee Obama)

    Obama does not get to redefine the existence and purpose of the Department of Justice for his own agenda. “EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders”

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis. “ECONOMIC OR FINANCIAL CRISIS. Never let a good crisis go to waste. Use the crisis to take over the country.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. I think Obama already has…by Executive Order.

  • Why is it that people like LXP deliberately confuse love with condoning? Homosexual behavior is sin just as adultery is sin. If we love the homosexual, the. We will not shy away from pointing out that his unrepentant sinful behavior will land him in hell. The same was true in the case of Jesus confronting the woman caught in adultery. Self-righteous people wanted to stone her to death. But it was Jesus who cast the first stone, as Donald quoted: go and sin no more.

    1st Corinthians 6:9-10 gives a list of people who won’t make it into the kingdom of heaven. In that list are malakos (the receivers in the act of homosexual intercourse) and arsenokoites (the penetrators in the act of homosexual intercourse). Now how is it loving, kind, just, or nice to grease the skids of such people so that they can burn in hel forever and ever? I may as well go there myself! I pray that I don’t because I know what I deserve. Why would I want that to happen to someone else?

  • Valentin says:

    LXP Christian was a word made up by the murderous protestants, and some advice I was given is to hate the sin and love the sinner. Loving homosexuals is to help them in refraining from sin so that the Devil doesn’t drag them to Hell.

  • Valentin says:

    LXP I think that hating the Devil and sin seems perfectly reasonable considering how corrupt both are. We don’t hate our neighbors we hate what they do.

  • T. Shaw says:

    LXP:

    What are you talking about?

    Cite concrete examples of HATE.

    HATE compared to what? Compared to Obama pitting whole classes of people against their fellow Americans?

    “Cliches: How the left cheats in the war of ideas.

    You don’t have one example of HATE.

    You are a typical lying liberal villain.

    We hate the sin and love the sinner. Because as long as the sinner lives he/she may come to a better disposition.

    3 . . . 2 . . . 1 RACISTS!!!!

  • T. Shaw says:

    Here is string of Obama Exec Orders that show Obama’s HATE for poor children trapped in failed , union-controlled public schools. He gave nineteen states waivers so they don’t have to comply with the “No Child Left Behind” law.

    Another example of liberal HATE: Huge, public school teachers benefits are never reduced, so school children’s education and life-long well-being need to be diminished.

    It’s not that Obama loves less poor school children. It’s that he loves more public school teachers unions and their money.

    3 . . . 2 . . . 1 RACIST!!!!

  • Jim says:

    Gays in the military is really about lesbians in the military. Gay men don’t last long unless they have desk jobs, while lesbians are relatively common among military women.

    And I would say that lesbians cause FAR fewer problems than the heterosexual women.

  • Valentin wrote, “Christian was a word made up by the murderous protestants.”

    This is incorrect. Acts 11:26 states:

    “And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.”

    The actual Greek word is ??????????.

  • Foxfier says:

    Jim-
    Spoken like someone who didn’t have to deal with them.
    Lesbians cause the same sort of trouble as straight women, in the style of a man, but good luck getting anybody to listen to you.
    As much as I really hated how women would use their sexuality to get ahead, I also disliked the assumption that if you were not using your sexuality to get ahead, you were a lesbian.

  • Mary De Voe says:

    “1st Corinthians 6:9-10 gives a list of people who won’t make it into the kingdom of heaven. In that list are malakos (the receivers in the act of homosexual intercourse) and arsenokoites (the penetrators in the act of homosexual intercourse). Now how is it loving, kind, just, or nice to grease the skids of such people so that they can burn in hell forever and ever? I may as well go there myself! I pray that I don’t because I know what I deserve. Why would I want that to happen to someone else?” Jesus went to hell for us and led us into heaven. That’s LOVE.
    In embracing sin, the sinner denies God, Holy Scripture, his rational, immortal soul and the soul of his partner, and the souls of all human beings, thereby imposing his sin on all humanity. This is not love but hatred, starting with the hatred of God and ending with the hatred of mankind, himself, included. Sin and death are cast into the Lake of Fire in Revelation. Paul, Help me out here, as I do not have the quote. I am in awe of your knowledge of Scripture.

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