Worse Than Murder, Inc. Can Always Depend on Obama

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President Obama continues to live down to his title of most pro-abort president in our nation’s  history.  He is now seeking to block implementation of Indiana legislation to deny funding to Worse Than Murder, Inc., a/k/a Planned Parenthood.    

The Obama administration today denied Indiana’s use of its new state law that would deny millions in taxpayer dollars to the Indiana affiliate of the nation’s largest abortion business.

Governor Mitch Daniels signed the law, which would cut off anywhere from $2 million to $3 million the Planned Parenthood abortion business receives in federal funds via the Indiana government through Medicaid.

Daniels said that “any organization affected by this provision can resume receiving taxpayer dollars immediately by ceasing or separating its operations that perform abortions.”

However, the Obama administration has told the state it can’t implement the new law, with Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Administrator Donald Berwick denying a request to deny funds saying the federal Medicaid law stipulates that states can’t exclude providers based on the services they provide.

Go here to read the full story at Lifesite News.  Elections have consequences.  The next time anyone who purports to be pro-life tells you that there is no difference between the Republican and the Democrat party on the issue of abortion, please remember this story and kindly tell them they are either sadly misinformed or blatantly lying.

38 Responses to Worse Than Murder, Inc. Can Always Depend on Obama

  • Kurt says:

    The Republican law says that a person on the Medicaid fee for service program cannot get a covered health care service (abortions not covered in Indiana) at a clinic that also performs abortions. They can get a health care service at a doctor’s office that performs abortions or a hospital that performs abortions.

  • It is not perfect legislation Kurt but it is a big step in the goal of defunding Worse Than Murder, Inc, legislation of a similar nature moving forward in other states due to the Republicans now controlling more state legislatures than any time since the Twenties of the last century. Obama would of course sooner eat ground glass than see Planned Parenthood lose a cent of its blood money. Abortion is the Holy of Holies of the Democrat party, and Obama is the chief priest of the cult.

  • Jay Anderson says:

    And you can always depend on Kurt to deflect the attention away from his baby-killing allies and place the blame on “the Republican law”.

    (I REALLY should tone down such rhetoric. After all, we know that Kurt feels “alienated from the Pro-Life movement” because of such things. A pity that he couldn’t bring himself to be similarly “alienated” by his party’s devotion to abortion on demand and its willingness to go to any lengths to protect legalized abortion.)

  • Kurt says:

    It is not perfect legislation Kurt…

    So why the gutlessness at perfect legislation?

    For that matter, why does the Catholic Church allow it ‘s employee health care to be used at facilities that perform abortions?

  • Paul Zummo says:

    Obfuscation, obfuscation, obfuscation. I guess it’s easier to do than look yourself in the mirror and realize you’re a cheerleader for someone who thinks it should be perfectly legal for infants who survive abortions to die on the table.

  • When I read things like this, I am reminded of how the Lord God allowed the Assyrian king to carry King Manasseh away into captivity for having made his own children walk through fire in worship of the Canaanite gods of death and destruction. Some people don’t like it when that parallel is pointed out, claiming that in these modern times somehow things are different because “we’re a democracy” and we got all this modern science and technology. But God doesn’t change. Defy Him and and His laws, and there will be hell to pay. The economy is beginning to resume its downward spiral. We have had an awful spate of destructive weather in the form of flooding in the mid-west and tornadoes in the south and even one in Springfield, MA yesterday. But all the scientifically-minded people say it’s always been this way; we’ve simply never noticed. Perhaps we will notice if and when God allows the Yosemite caldera to explode, or the San Andreas fault to finally let loose. It took the utter destruction of Jerusalem and the exile of the Jewish people into Babylon before they sat up and noticed, and their sins are less than ours with our having once been a Christian nation and now having elected a godlessly wicked president who legitimatizes the murder of the most innocent and helpless every chance he gets.

    Our choice is clear: repent and convert or get destroyed. The wages of sin are death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ, His Son. Hmmmm….that’s in Scripture, right?

  • Kurt,

    Those clerics in the Catholic Church who allow (or worse, aid and abet) Catholic organizations which fund abortion or support gay sex would do well to read Ezekiel 34:1-10. That this occurs, however, does not constitute validation of the supposition that the Catholic Church Herself finances abortion.

    Christ will separate the wheat from the chaff and the chaff will be burned up in everlasting fire. That may begin in this life or be deferred to the next as He wills it. But in the end, Christ will have a spotless Bride. Ananias and Saphira learned that the hard way in Acts 5:1-11. Hymenaeus and Alexander had to also learn that the hard way in 1st Timothy 1:19-20. And Jesus told Jezebel in Revelation 2:20-23 that her children of adultery would be struck dead and she would be tortured until she learned to obey Him who is Lord God Eternal.

    As the write of the Epistle to the Hebrews states, it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

  • Kurt says:

    Those clerics in the Catholic Church who allow (or worse, aid and abet) Catholic organizations which fund abortion …

    Those clerics would include Cardinal Wuerl and Cardinal Burke. Should I have the opportunity, I will give them your recommendation.

  • Kurt,

    I do see how that might include Cardinal Wuerl. He refuses to put apostates like Nancy Pelosi and the other pseudo-Catholic politicians in Washington, DC in their proper place – outside of receiving Holy Communion until they repent. Oh, he says that’s the responsibility of their local Bishop (in her case Niederauer), but they parade themselves right on up in parishses in his diocese. And Niederauer of course is no better. These people who make a public scandal and flaunt their disobedience right in front of the national news media must be publicly excommunicated. St. Paul did it with Alexander and Hymenaeus.

    As for Cardinal Burke, my understanding is that he is about as orthodox as they get. I can understand how that would enrage the liberal pseudo-Catholics. Good for him.

  • Kurt says:

    As for Cardinal Burke, my understanding is that he is about as orthodox as they get.

    All the more troubling that, as Archbishop of St. Louis, he financed abortion. Sad day when a man like Burke spends Church money on abortions.

  • How did Cardinal Burke fund abortions? Web link to pertinet news story, please. Or was money diverted from his diocese by liberal laity serving in diocesan offices?

    Interesting that liberal Bishops and peudo-Catholic politicians escape your notice, however.

  • Bill Sr. says:

    “…a cheerleader for someone who thinks it should be perfectly legal for infants who survive abortions to die on the table.”

    ..Words which came right out of the mouth of our Master of Deceit in Chief.
    It was this adamant belief expressed on three separate occasions while as a congressman which defined Obama to thousands BEFORE he was elected. And still thousands of Catholics voted for this alleged Christian and a man of compassion. If we have reached that level of public morality and are willing to REELECT this proud pompous enabler of Murder Inc. then we need to prepare for the wrath which surely we have purchased for ourselves.

  • “And still thousands of Catholics voted for this alleged Christian and a man of compassion. If we have reached that level of public morality and are willing to REELECT this proud pompous enabler of Murder Inc. then we need to prepare for the wrath which surely we have purchased for ourselves.”

    Sadly there will be thousands of Catholics finding themselves cast out of the Kingdom of Heaven just as many Pharisees and Saduccees saw themselves cast out.

    Now is the day of repentance, for surely wrath is coming. One thermonuclear detonation at the Yosemite caldera by the al Qaeda nuts (and some equally horrific action – asteroid impact, bio-warfare, chemical warfare) is all it would take. Tic tock. Tic tock. Tic tock. “Be not deceived. God is not mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth, that also shall he reap.” We have sown the whirlwind.

  • Kurt says:

    How did Cardinal Burke fund abortions?

    The exact same way Indiana is unless the new legislation is allowed to take effect. The exact same way.

    Interesting that liberal Bishops and peudo-Catholic politicians escape your notice, however.

    Oh, I’ve noticed. I originally named two cardinals, one of which seems to meet you standard of a liberal. I’m just following up on Cardinal Burke’s funding of abortion as it seems to be news to you. Almost all of them are probably funding abortion.

  • Kurt,

    So how is Indiana’s new legislation allowing abortions to take place, what Role does Cardinal Burke have in that (if any), and how has anything he has done been remotely similar to what Indiana is doing.

    Link to the Indiana legislation would be helpful, as well as link to reports on any past activities by Burke that are similar to this. In your first response you didn’t provide links as requested. You just made an accusation and then gave reference to Indiana.

  • Paul Zummo says:

    Kurt is basically just lying to cover his own conscience. In his convoluted world, as long as you can draw the most tenuous connection between Action A and Outcome U he can say he’s no different than any of the Bishops and Priests. Kind of sad, really.

    Then again, what’s a few million dead babies so long as those union coffers remain filled?

  • Paul Z.,

    That’s exactly what I thought, but I wanted Kurt to use dispassionate logic and objective evidence to make his case instead of liberal group-think.

    I thought I was bad in being so emotional and non-objective! Well, I am…..

    Many hate Burke not because of some nebulous and tenous link to abortion (and there isn’t one that I can find), but because he is orthodox, so anything that can be shaded to look like liberal hypocrisy in him they will go all out to expose. In the meantime they ignore the worst of hypocrisy among themselves because Obamessiah promises all hungry bellies will be filled.

  • Kurt says:

    So how is Indiana’s new legislation allowing abortions to take place, what Role does Cardinal Burke have in that (if any), and how has anything he has done been remotely similar to what Indiana is doing.

    Cardinal Burke financed abortions the same way that the old Indiana law allowed it. As Archbishop of St. Louis, Burke financed abortions in the same way Indiana did until it was corrected by the new law. The financing of abortions by the Archdiocese of St. Louis continues to this day.

    EXACTLY THE SAME.

  • Paul Zummo says:

    Kurt,

    You have been asked multiple times to provide evidence of your allegations. If you continue to obfuscate the issue by failing to provide a cogent defense of your argument, I will put you on moderation.

  • Kurt says:

    I would happily walk you through step by step if you could just help me avoid any distractions over terminology by allowing me to totally defer to your use of terminology and standards.

    I would just ask that you describe for me (without the restrictions of the new Indiana law) how abortion was being funded in Indiana. That way I can courteously use the same terminology, standards and measures you use. I will then walk you through how the Archdiocese of St. Louis finances abortions in the exact same way and provide links giving further evidence.

    I’m confident I can do so, but just want to start off by using your description so we are not sidelined or confused by using differing meaning of words.

  • Kurt,

    I work in the commercial nuclear industry. If I make an allegation to the US NRC, they expect me to cite the exact part of the Code of Federal Regulations that was violated (e.g., 10 CFR 50.59, or 10 CFR 50 Appendix B Criterion III or whatever). Then they expect me to specify what procedure or instruction at the company where I work is in violation by alphanumeric identifier and name, as well as the affected procedural steps. Date, time, and setting of the violation is also required. Everything has to be objective. No ranting. The NRC doesn’t listen to rants.

    So do the same. Go to the web page for the Illinois legislative code, find the actual law, bill or state code in question, reference the web link, quote the law, bill or code, and then identify the physical circumstances (date, time and seeting) under which Cardinal Burke did what you said. Use web link to pertinent news reports. Don’t be like me ranting about liberals. Be objective. Get the facts and to the last decimal place. If Cardinal Burke screwed up, then prove it with the facts.

  • A little off-topic, but relevant story: We had a visitor last week in our home, a Catholic childhood Holocaust survivor from Poland who now lives in NY. She requested an appointment with her Congressman who is pro-abortion and also attends Catholic Mass. It took time to call over and over, but she didn’t stop calling. Finally she got the appointment, and once in his office she looked him straight in the eyes and told him that she wanted him to stop taking Communion in front of everyone at well-attended Masses each week. She’s a very direct woman, go straight to the source. I like that!

  • Bill Sr. says:

    “Praise the Lord Jesus Christ for women like the one about whom Stacy wrote.” To them it must be said in all turthfulness “man” was made from the dust of the earth but “woman” was made of flesh and bone to bring him to fulfillment.
    However, speaking of WRATH in conjunction with an Obama regime, if you dare think this to be an extreme or unimaginable perception you might want to recall another “policy change” which der Obamamister told us would be required for him to succeed in fundamentally transforming America. Like murderous abortion is hidden under the umbrella of “women’s health” there is an even more sinister change lurking under the umbrella of “homeland security” which is surely ready to take shape as internal turmoil like we have witnessed in Wisconsin with union thugs and across the nation in public demonstrations against immigration reform and right to work laws.
    Obama knew in his rush to transform us into a European styled socialistic “democracy” as he systematically shredded the constitution there would be strong resistance by those American patriots who realized what was happening. Enter his campaign’s spoken urgent need to protect us from all harm foreign and “domestic”. It went something like this. “We need and internal civilian security force just as well equipped and funded as our military”. You thought of domestic terrorist maybe? Wrong.
    Eric Holder won’t attempt to prosecute militant Black Panthers intimidating voters. Then Obama (sheepishly) vows to stand with the storming army of thugs as they demolish Madison’s capitol.
    The administration files suit against any state trying to enforce immigration laws or prevent taxpayer money from funding abortions. Who do you think is the “domestic” enemy threatening the administration as the transformation proceeds? We have met the enemy and…
    Could it be that we have unwittingly created the hands and fists of the perpetrator of the WRATH about to descend upon us?

  • RR says:

    Actually Kurt is right. Employees of the Archdiocese of St. Louis can get health services at Planned Parenthood clinics, though not abortions. Medicaid recipients in Indiana can get health services at Planned Parenthood clinics, though not abortions.

    There is nothing immoral about paying for non-abortion services at a clinic that provides abortions. Now, you may want to pressure PP into ending abortion services by withholding funding for morally permissible services but not withholding it isn’t immoral.

    As for the politics, doesn’t this prove that elections don’t matter as much as some would like them to matter? Neither a pro-life governor nor a pro-life president can overturn federal law.

  • RR says:

    These aren’t grants to PP so it has nothing to do with fungibility. If you sell bread and pickles and I buy bread, I’m not subsidizing pickles. Paul is confusing this with the inherent fungible nature of grants.

    There’s an unrelated question: Suppose you have an employee who donates some of his income to PP. Should you fire him?

  • RR,

    Kurt’s argument would only begin to have validity if a diocese instead of paying for its small number of employees to have health insurance via some existing health care plan (which is actually the case) was actually running a health insurance plan, which listed Planned Parenthood as an authorized service provider.

    Saying that the Church is at fault for using health care providers is like saying that individual users of Medicaid are at fault for the fact that Medicaid contracts with Planned Parenthood.

    As for the fungibility issue — clearly it’s of financial benefit to Planned Parenthood to get a few million dollars worth of business from a place that reliably pays its bills like the government, and it’s probably also financially advantageous to them to get their hooks into the sort of low income customers who would come in via Medicaid, since PP can then market non-covered services such as abortions to them. These are, after all, a particularly easily exploited group of customers for a vulture organization such as PP.

    People who are so blithe about insisting that it’s not problematic for the government to be paying for non-abortion services to be provided by Planned Parenthood should consider whether they’d feel similarly if the Aryan Nations opened a “health care” wing and wanted federal funds for providing services to the poor. Anyone with a Catholic moral compass is pretty clearly going to see Planned Parenthood as about as socially respectable as the Aryan Nations, if not less so.

  • RR says:

    DC, I didn’t say the diocese is at fault. I think it’s clearly morally permissible to buy non-abortion services at PP just as it’s morally permissible to buy toothpaste at a pharmacy that also sells birth-control.

    To be clear, it’d be great if PP didn’t get any money for anything. But on the question of whether it’s morally permissible to buy non-abortion services from PP, the answer is clearly “yes.”

  • “To be clear, it’d be great if PP didn’t get any money for anything. But on the question of whether it’s morally permissible to buy non-abortion services from PP, the answer is clearly “yes.””

    Rubbish. Planned Parenthood is in the business of murdering the most innocent among us. Any interaction with that organization other than demanding that they be shut down yesterday is deeply immoral.

  • I didn’t say the diocese is at fault. I think it’s clearly morally permissible to buy non-abortion services at PP just as it’s morally permissible to buy toothpaste at a pharmacy that also sells birth-control.

    Well, you said that you thought Kurt was right, and Kurt was (disingenuously) arguing that the diocese was at fault for acting in the same way that as Indiana is trying to make Medicaid stop behaving.

    I pointed out that he’s wrong to assert that the dioceses’ behavior is the same as Medicaid’s — this at a minimum seems to pretty clear.

    As to whether it’s “clearly” moral to purchase other services from Planned Parenthood so long as one doesn’t purchase killings — I don’t know if I’d assert that it is in and of itself to buy something completely harmless (say, typing paper) from Planned Parenthood because of the incredible evil of their other acts, but I would say that they are so closely identified with such an abhorrent moral evil that no morally formed person would consent to have anything to do with them. Seriously, we’re dealing with an organization even worse than the Klan here, there is absolutely no reason to have anything to do with them. I’d rather starve than take food from them.

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