In Italy free masonry has been virulently anti-Catholic and the Church has always oppose free masonry.
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Horrific. It’s akin to asking for dialogue with the church of satan.
As a side – just wondering if Philip Nachazel is ok? I have noticed him absent from the commentary. I hope all is well with him. 🙏🏼
He is taking Lent off from the internet Ezabelle.
Thanks Don. That’s a good sacrifice for Lent.
Catholics and freemasons do not speak the same language or how to dialogue with an octopus.
The famous dialoguing. We see how well that worked w unrepentant Catholics.
And why were the Italian mafia excommunicated again?
The only purpose for any dialogue with the Freemasons, or anyone else is for the conversion of their souls to Christ. Same goes for ecumenism.
On second thought…maybe this is an attempt to rehabilitate Bugnini.
Ezabelle-I have given up telling people what I gave up for Lent.
You must have missed it-the profitable – in terms of getting people to hell- dialogue with the devils began decades ago. One of the saddest aspects of all this is that if the church’s world rulers -here on earth-of this present church darkness do not repent, 1. anyone lucky and faithful enough to make it to heaven will know all the lies they told, all the perversions they engaged in, all their predations, all their crimes, and everyone they blackmailed, and if they don’t repent, Jesus’s judgment of them – and that that hell Jorge B says does not exist really is real; and 2. how arrogantly amazed they will be upon dying unrepentant that the devils don’t recognize their service to evil by enlisting them in the devil corps, with high rank = to what they had on earth.Guy, Texas
I know an exorcist who deals with a number of people who are victims of their ancestor’s masonic curse. It is NO joke!
Characterizing Freemasons as some sort of bogyman, malevolent above all others, is scarcely accurate. It is also a bit over the top when considering some of the real miscreants that the Church leaders, including Pontiffs, have interacted with over the centuries. Might be time for all to take a step back to make certain of which are their own positions.. Both have coexisted for centuries, mostly at somewhat cross purposes, but very rarely violent. Might be time for each to get a better understanding of the other as the have been changes in emphasis of both over time.
Might be time for each to get a better understanding of the other as the have been changes in emphasis of both over time.
DL – It’s not possible to reconcile Freemasonry and Catholicism. Regardless of how peaceful, inclusive and polite Freemasonry markets itself. Today they could market the organisation as a club but tomorrow this could change back to something sinister.
It’s not just their changing stance- Freemasonry requires a member to profess an oath whereby a person has allegiance to Freemasonry above all things. One cannot swear allegiance to anything which teaches “enlightenment” and “naturalism”. Our ultimate salvation is achieved when we unite our earthly suffering to the Death and Ressurection of our Lord Jesus Christ. In contradiction, Freemasonry has a flawed belief which states that man may bypass suffering to achieve heaven on earth. That’s impossible. Freemasonry contradicts the salvation through Our Lord. You can not logically reconcile the two- so for the Vatican to declare that we should have “dialogue” is plain stupid. It’s impossible.
The Catholic Church and the Lodge can never be reconciled. Freemasonry teaches a rival religion of Naturalism, whether Layla, do you want a coffee dad‘s gonna get a coffee you want a coffee how was it Wesley it plots, persecutes, blasphemes, engages in philanthropy, or behaves politely. It treats all religions as equal but inferior to its own Gnostic wisdom. Alas, the vaunted profundity on offer never manifests itself from the shadows of secrecy. Even after a man has taken every degree known in the Masonic mansion, he will be no more enlightened than when he began, but considerably farther from the true Light. The Great Architect the Universe of Deism and Freemasonry is not the Triune God—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—of Christians.
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/02/07/freemasons-and-their-craft-what-catholics-should-know/
“Layla, do you want a coffee dad‘s gonna get a coffee you want a coffee how was it Wesley”
Please ignore this part as voice inserted this in my dialogue to my daughter as I was typing. 🤦🏻♀️
Freemasonry & Catholicism are totally irreconcilable. The Portuguese government at the time of the Fatima miracles was Freemasonic. The Mexican government at the time of the Christeros War was Freemasonic.
In 1620, Our Lady appeared to a nun in Quito, Ecuador to warn the world about Freemasonry, and Freemasonry did not become a world organisation till 1717. This miracle was known as Our Lady of Quito, but now known as Our Lady of Good Success, so Heaven has been warning the Church against Freemasonry for 400 years. Yes, Bugnini was a Freemason along with Cdl. Martini, who both had a hand in V.II & the Novus Ordo. So why on earth is Bergoglio now flirting with them ? It has been rumoured that he is a member, but who am I to judge.