Free Speech?

All we have of freedom, all we use or know–
This our fathers bought for us long and long ago.

Ancient Right unnoticed as the breath we draw–
Leave to live by no man’s leave, underneath the Law.

Lance and torch and tumult, steel and grey-goose wing
Wrenched it, inch and ell and all, slowly from the king.

Rudyard Kipling, The Old Issue

 

 

Free speech has never been free.  It has been paid for down the centuries in the precious coins of human blood and tears.  I fear another installment payment may be due if moronic would be tyrants like John Fetterman have their way.

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John F. Kennedy
John F. Kennedy
Saturday, January 16, AD 2021 11:19am

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.” – Thomas Jefferson

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Saturday, January 16, AD 2021 12:05pm

Make America Poor Again.

One would have thought that when they set out to steal the elections, they would have employed puppets that weren’t complete idiots.

If you want to know how we know they stole the election. See below.

True, Mac. The First Civil War cost more than “600,000 lives and $6,000 million to abolish the system of slavery, destroy the doctrine of state sovereignty, and begin the career of the US as a nation-state.’ Rossiter Johnson

We know what they did last November.

If they hadn’t stolen the elections, they would have cooperated with complete audits/investigations of all the ballots. They could not allow it because it would have proven the steal.

Dave G.
Dave G.
Saturday, January 16, AD 2021 12:30pm

That’s a thing. My oldest sons are in college, and they say no few of their peers are absolutely convinced that things like free speech or religious liberty (or even forgiveness) have merely been tools of white supremacy and Western colonial oppression. The phrase ‘hate speech is not free speech’ is completely embraced by entire swaths of their fellow students. They believe this because they’ve been taught – by schools, textbooks, pop culture, not a few religious leaders in recent years, and society as a whole. They didn’t come up with this idea on their own.

Bob Kurland
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Saturday, January 16, AD 2021 1:05pm

Fetterman is recognized by members of both parties in Pennsylvania as someone who has ideas–let’s see, how do I say this and avoid libel charges–that are very unconventional and most unlikely to be adopted by any party in power. He is, IMO, a person of no political consequence. (views on drugs, ponytail, etc.) There is a move afoot to make the nomination for lt. gov. independent of that for gov; dems don’t want another fool in that office, be he dem or repub.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Saturday, January 16, AD 2021 2:56pm

There is a move afoot to make the nomination for lt. gov. independent of that for gov; dems don’t want another fool in that office, be he dem or repub.

Why not scrap the quasi-elective Lt. Governor? (And, while you’re at it, is it really necessary to elect a mess of specialized state officials?). Have a set of appointed Lt. Governors to supervise blocs of state agencies. If the governor’s chair falls vacant, you can have an order of succession from among the state executive officers for an interim period and have the county legislators elect a new governor.

J. Ronald Parrish
J. Ronald Parrish
Saturday, January 16, AD 2021 3:03pm

The only speech which is or needs protection is that which I, or you, find offensive, repulsive, untrue, or hateful. It started with hate crimes. What jerk could oppose these. Well, there was a time when when what you did was determinative of criminality, reguardless of your state of mind or big mouth. Often the road to tyranny starts with seemingly innocuous propositions. I always felt that if murdered the perpetrator’s love or hate of me would be of little consequence.

Nate Winchester
Nate Winchester
Saturday, January 16, AD 2021 3:06pm

most unlikely to be adopted by any party in power

Now who’s being naïve.

10 years ago would you have predicted the democrats adopting the “men can be women” idea?

At this point I don’t assume any idea is too crazy for a political party to adopt.

David WS
David WS
Saturday, January 16, AD 2021 7:15pm

Women are Not appreciated in today’s culture, if women don’t act like men they don’t count.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Sunday, January 17, AD 2021 8:51am

Women are Not appreciated in today’s culture, if women don’t act like men they don’t count.

I’ve never encountered many women who act like men (and the ones I have encountered usually have a feminine side as well). I have encountered women who are demanding and shrewish, but they’re not acting like men. They’re acting like ill-mannered women.

David WS
David WS
Sunday, January 17, AD 2021 1:32pm

Art, women today are expected to be creatures that can have sex and not get pregnant, and their most important attribute is what they “do”.
These are masculine expressions.

Rudolph Harrier
Rudolph Harrier
Sunday, January 17, AD 2021 1:49pm

On a related topic, the despicable David French is not only using the “DC insurrection” to call for limits on free speech:

https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1350486775941230595

but also on religious liberty (but just for Christians):

https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1350649923247681537

I confess that I look forward to the day where David French and his buddies are inevitably devoured by the left.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Sunday, January 17, AD 2021 4:07pm

I confess that I look forward to the day where David French and his buddies are inevitably devoured by the left.

Buddies? Other than his wife and a handful of other NeverTrump deadenders, I don’t think there are many people who aren’t done with him.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Sunday, January 17, AD 2021 4:34pm

I notice David French has never written for First Things, Touchstone, Christianity Today, Books & Culture, or World. He doesn’t appear to have placed any articles in law reviews. AFAICT, other than a stint as a JAG, he hasn’t practiced law in 15 years or more. He’s on someone’s patronage, but it’s not clear just whose.

Captain Thai Tea
Captain Thai Tea
Sunday, January 17, AD 2021 9:05pm

Say goodbye to your oil and fracking industry PA!

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Monday, January 18, AD 2021 6:18am

BINGO, Captain! We are going to get the bad government we deserve – good and hard.

Look at it as penance.

After years of chasing the car, the mad dog has seized it. Let’s see what they do with it. It will not be pretty.

See Chicago.

See Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle

See NY.

See Venezuela.

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