Relative Relativity

 

We are still parsing out some of Newton.  It will be a very long time until we have parsed all of Einstein.

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bob kurland
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Tuesday, October 28, AD 2025 4:00am

absolutely!!!

David WS
David WS
Tuesday, October 28, AD 2025 4:12am

“How could a person spend ten years in purgatory with only one year passing on earth….?”said the theologian…

The suddenly, the argument ceased.

Frank
Frank
Tuesday, October 28, AD 2025 8:58am

Isn’t this just another of the many examples in science which help to prove truths taught by Christ and His Church since the earliest days? As I understand it, and the science-savvy folks who post here can correct me if I’m wrong, the notion that time is itself a creation, and that God is, and must be, outside of it, underlies much of what Aquinas called the Queen of the Sciences, i.e., theology. Without that premise, our ability to understand our universe would seem to be severely limited.

Tom Byrne
Tom Byrne
Tuesday, October 28, AD 2025 9:10am

Interestingly, one of the first sets of books to use the theme of relative time was the Chronicles of Narnia. Time passing differently in different worlds.

GregB
Tuesday, October 28, AD 2025 3:34pm

God transcends time. This concept is expressed in one of the names of God. There is a downloadable PDF online that is a summarization of lectures given by a rabbi about the Exodus titled “Exodus from Egypt: The Hidden Agenda”
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https://staff.ncsy.org/education/education/education/education/material/C8HxYivMlL/exodus-from-egypt:-the-hidden-agenda/
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The names of God starts on page 6 of the PDF. He says that YHVH in the original language is an amalgam of the three Hebrew words for existence. In the PDF it says that: ‘It describes his essence. The Hebrew words for existence are “Haya”, “Yiheeyeh”, and “Hoveh” Was, Will be, and Is. If you take these words and overlay it with each other, you will get “Yud-Kay- and Vuv-Kay”. We are talking about a simultaneous existence. It is experiencing time in another way we cannot imagine. It exists but not in this world. It exists outside of time, outside of our world, outside of our universe.’ 

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Tuesday, October 28, AD 2025 8:10pm

***We are talking about a simultaneous existence.***

I like that.

At the transubstantiation we are at the foot of the cross. We are entering into his passion in real time. Existing simultaneously, time that is known by man, and time which isn’t the past but real time as it’s happening over 2,000 years ago but it’s now and we are there. Not a recreation of the event. We are present at T H E event in real time.

This is the pinnacle of the Mass.

We are time travellers. That portal is real time since mans concept is mans and far inferior to real time which is One Day that never ends. God’s time.

R. Bernonensis
R. Bernonensis
Wednesday, October 29, AD 2025 8:41am

But doesn’t this actually prove that our perceptions of events, not the events themselves, are affected by our subjective conditions? It seems the alternative is to conclude that simultaneity is an incoherent concept, which would render the situation envisioned in the thought-experiment an impossibility. And I realize that more than a century of physics has been built on Einstein’s theory, often producing tangible results, but this has been at the cost of intelligibility and is possible only with the introduction of monstrosities like “dark matter” and “multiverses” to make the math work out; whether they surpass Ptolemy’s epicycles in their elegance is a question I’ll reserve for nights when counting sheep doesn’t help.

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GregB
Wednesday, October 29, AD 2025 12:44pm

Philip Nachazel: I’ve heard that the Jews celebrating the Passover Seder view themselves as having a timeless link back to the first Passover held in Egypt. Very much like our transcendent view of the Eucharist.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Wednesday, October 29, AD 2025 2:00pm

Thanks GregB. I haven’t heard of that but with God all things are possible. In the *Chosen* series the Seder with Jesus present was a fun episode. I know that the series isn’t Catholic however it’s uplifting and good viewing v garbage programing or poor content via movies.

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