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The world was better off when Germany was a geographic term rather than a political entity.

 

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BillR
BillR
Wednesday, March 27, AD 2024 7:07am

The world was better off when Germany was a geographic term rather than a political entity.”

with Europe dominated by revolutionary and later republican France? No fan of Bismark, but the status quo wasn’t a bed of roses.

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Wednesday, March 27, AD 2024 7:39am

Quaeritur: what has brought this concern about Germany up now? At the current time Germany strikes me as weak, beholden to the greenie-weenie feminists, they’ve completedly denuked their energy infrastructure, their economy as a result has been shot in the heart, their military spending is among the lowest in Europe (has that changed?), and even France seems to do better.

Is there something going on of which I am woefully ignorant?

MikeS
MikeS
Wednesday, March 27, AD 2024 8:10am

In secular terms, I can’t think of much German damage recently, but in the Church…

Donald Link
Donald Link
Wednesday, March 27, AD 2024 8:36am

I understand the problem many have with a unified Germany. As I have mentioned previously, both sides of my family left after unification as their loyalty was with their state rather than a Prussian hierarchy. As for the present, the possibility of a Yugoslavia of the center of Europe composed of separate German states is not very enticing either.

The Bruised Optimist
The Bruised Optimist
Wednesday, March 27, AD 2024 8:47am

The “Reformation” was a Germanic disaster that was not dependent on GDP or divisions in the field. The Germanic synod threatens without any accompanying secular might

There seems to be so few European Catholics left. Why does a Church hierarchy obsessed with demographics care what the German “reformers” want?

Fr. J
Fr. J
Wednesday, March 27, AD 2024 1:14pm

It was a dubious proposition from the get-go. There was never a “King of Prussia,” for example, only a “King in Prussia.” Likewise, Wilhelm I refused the title of Kaiser until it was disassociated with Prussia or any other territory, in effect becoming “Kaiser in Germany.” Everyone knows the real Kaiser was the Holy Roman Emperor. The unification of Germany was inevitably tied to the fall of Catholic Austria. A.E.I.O.U!

Frank
Frank
Wednesday, March 27, AD 2024 1:46pm

“There seems to be so few European Catholics left. Why does a Church hierarchy obsessed with demographics care what the German “reformers” want?”
Good question, TBO. I will don my amateur psychologist hat and guess that the answer is one or both of: 1- the money flowing to Rome from the German Kirchensteuer, the Federal tax that supports the Bishops’ Conference, which presumably the Conference could cut off if sufficiently provoked, or 2- the oft-demonstrated tendency of Francis the Merciful™️ to be, shall we say, irritated by anyone perceived as being disobedient to him. In this case, this manifests as a “do it my way, or not at all” approach.
My two pfennigs. 😁

The Bruised Optimist
The Bruised Optimist
Wednesday, March 27, AD 2024 1:56pm

Frank- I’m afraid your two pfennigs are true currency in this situation 😐

Elaine Krewer
Admin
Wednesday, March 27, AD 2024 8:05pm

 “I understand the problem many have with a unified Germany.”

Well, if the Holy Roman Empire was the First Reich, the Kaisers were the Second Reich, and the Nazis were the Third Reich — Hitler intentionally used the term “Reich” to harken back to the glory days of a unified German Empire — then technically the current unified Germany could be the “Fourth Reich” although no one would dare call it that for obvious reasons.  

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, March 27, AD 2024 8:20pm

I’m not seeing how the world would be a more agreeable place with a jumble of 26 states with a wretched set of boundaries rather than a couple of federations of those with contiguous territory. The pathology from which the occidental world suffers is omnipresent and has the upper hand just about everywhere but Hungary and a few other places.

Robert "Tito" Edwards
Admin
Wednesday, March 27, AD 2024 9:40pm

I haven’t read enough or lived long enough to have any negative views on a rearmed Germany. But I hope that the stereotype of a belligerent Germany is wrong.

. . .on another point, I do like the term, “Carthaginian Peace”!

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, March 28, AD 2024 8:35am

There was never a “King of Prussia,” for example, only a “King in Prussia
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No, the title was changed to King of Prussia.

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