Fiducia supplicans, in a Nutshell

This is not only an error by the Pope, but him promoting sin.  The Papacy will be decades digging out from this disaster of a pontificate.

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Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 2:05am

Way to go, 2013 Conclave!

Mary De Voe
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 3:18am

Sodomites need to start blessing themselves.

MrsOpey
MrsOpey
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 5:22am

To add,
Which claims it isn’t heresy when it actually is heresy

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 6:02am

The “blessings” are to help cure them from their disorders via God. Basically that is what is being sold via Fiducia Supplicans, which was written by DDF prefect Cardinal Victor Fernández.

Good intentions right?

Now the abuses of said document spread far and wide giving the general public the false interpretation that the Church is Blessing the unholy unions.

just trying to make sure I have this correctly.

So, in a nutshell, the DDF prefect Cardinal Vick, who has tremendous experience in explaining to young adults how to place the tongue into anothers mouth, as something akin to loving God, is now behind this charade that has become part of the Magisterium??!??!

kiss my butt Cardinal…. with all due respect.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 6:37am

I disagree that it will be decades digging out of this disaster. All it takes is a change in leadership by someone who is Faithful and Strong…..BAM! He will put a sledgehammer to it all. And what will remain will be a bad memory and a page in history entirely on PF reign. History will not look kindly on this era.

M.Murphy
M.Murphy
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 7:46am
.”heretics are outside the Church, even before excommunication, and deprived of all jurisdiction, for they are condemned by their own judgment, as the Apostle teaches to Titus.” — Suarez, De Fide Theologica, Disputatio X. De Summo Pontifice, Sect VI. Tertium dubium.
Francisco Suarez, (1548-1617)
“in accord with His divine providence…[God] preserve[s] the pope from heresy in consequence of the promise that he shall never err in defining faith. Furthermore, as such a thing has never happened in the Church, we may conclude that, in the providence of God, it cannot happen.’ ”. “
Ecumenical Council Vatican I (1870),
“For in the Apostolic See the Catholic religion has always been preserved unblemished, and sacred doctrine been held in honor…And indeed all the venerable Fathers have embraced, and the holy orthodox Doctors have venerated and followed their [Popes] apostolic doctrine; knowing most fully that this See of Saint Peter remains ever free from all blemish of error, according to the divine promise of the Lord our Saviour made to the Prince of His disciples: ‘I have prayed for thee that thy faith fail not; and when thou art converted, confirm thy brethren.’”
Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 8:18am

The blessings are not to be viewed as sacramental or liturgical nor in group settings to lead anyone to believe that a ceremony is taking place, but instead a spontaneous blessing given to two persons who are asking God for help in their relationships… be it non-sexual.. brother and sister.. or brother and brother.. or sister and sister… living arrangements.

The pastor will decide if the “couple” is sincere in their wish to be celibate together.

Again… I’m trying to digest this correctly.

Stephen E Dalton
Stephen E Dalton
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 8:18am

Ezabelle, it will take years to uproot the lavender mafia that’s the backbone of the cabal that’s holding the reins of power in the Church. The only way I can see them losing power quickly is for some kind of plague to strike dead every lavender cardinal, bishop, and priest overnight.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 2:19pm

Stephen- see I don’t agree. Many of the voting Cardinals are quite old. If the next Pope plays his cards right and starts appointing good Bishop and Cardinals, the tables will turn quicker than you think.

CAG
CAG
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 3:02pm

If the next Pope plays his cards right and starts appointing good Bishop and Cardinals, the tables will turn quicker than you think.”

Isn’t this exactly what Francis has been doing, though? And unlike his predecessors, he’s also been firing faithful bishops right and left without cause or due process … And still, after 10 years of this, he hasn’t been able to erase the influence of B16 and JP2 entirely. A faithful pope probably wouldn’t resort to the extremes Francis has, either. I hope you’re right Ezabelle, but I’m thinking if two faithful popes in a row couldn’t effect lasting positive change, maybe we’ll need three in a row.

Besides, Francis has completely stacked the deck where Cardinals are concerned. After this fiasco, they probably wouldn’t elect another idiot activist, but I can’t see this Francis crop electing someone remotely orthodox.

Steve Phoenix
Steve Phoenix
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 3:09pm

“Did Benedict’s death lift restraints on Pope Francis?” Philip Lawler | Jan 03, 2024, Catholic Culture.

https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/did-benedicts-death-lift-restraints-on-pope-francis/

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 7:18pm

CAG – I am of the belief that the next Pope has to play his cards right and there is nothing wrong with him doing so in order to clean out the filth. He won’t be firing with no due process- he will be firing them for not exercising fidelity to the Faith. If he has to be discriminate so be it.

I think Pope Benedict and St JP2 did have lasting positive impact, and that has left an impression on the generations who lived through their pontificates and has trickled down. I’d give credit to the Faithful for this. And some mighty Cardinals eg. Pell was a Lion of a man and his legacy in my neck of the woods regarding seminarians will be long lasting. God plants good people everywhere.

The only situation where we will have a deep hole to dig ourselves out of is if we have the next few consecutive Popes to be like PF.

Stephen E Dalton
Stephen E Dalton
Saturday, January 6, AD 2024 11:14pm

Ezabelle, you should read a book called The Rite Of Sodomy by Randy Engel. Her research shows the lavender mafia is deeply entrenched in the Church from top to bottom. Even if we get a good Pope at the next conclave, he won’t be able to get rid of the problem overnight. Unless a miracle, like the plague I mentioned that would kill all the sodomites would happen, it will take years to root out all the perverts.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Monday, January 8, AD 2024 7:47am

Stephen – I went searching for information on that book. Apparently homosexuality amongst the Church Clergy is as old as the Church itself. The book makes a wild claim that Pope Paul VI was an active homosexual (detailing incidences and naming his gay associates..). The book claims he was essentially blackmailed by those inside and outside of the Church into modernising the Church and changing tradition and doctrine. Pope Paul VI once publicly went out in front of an audience and denied rumours that he was a homosexual. He was also canonised by St JP2. I’m not sure what to believe.

https://www.rcf.org/docs/droleskeyriteofsodomy.htm

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