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July 20, 1969: Americans Set Foot on the Moon

Back on July 20, 1969, astonishingly to me  fifty-four years ago, I remember staying up to watch this with my Father.  Here is a NASA Contractor Report on the flag raising.  My Dad was not the most talkative man in the world, but I could tell he was quite proud when the flag was raised.  So was I.

The flag raising has been seized upon by conspiracy theorists who claim that the moon landings were government hoaxes.  How could a flag wave without an atmosphere?  This has been answered numerous times.

 

Most would agree that NASAs’ scientists are among the most brilliant people in the world. It is, therefore, natural to ask why anyone would assume that these men (and women, today) would be so ignorant as to ignore the fact that a flag would flutter being planted on Earth (on a windy day that is), but would not when being planted on the Moon because it has no atmosphere?
There is a simple answer to this question; they would not. NASA’s scientists are, and were, aware that there is no atmosphere on the moon. As such, they were more than prepared for this fact when they sent a flag with Apollo 11 and made sure that the flag would be constructed in such as way that would allow onlookers to see all of the stars and stripes. On the Earth, flags are usually hung from a pole or rod. On the Moon the flag was hung in the same fashion, but with a second rod protruding parallel with the Moons surface from the first rod. It is from this rod that the flag hung, forcing it to stick straight out and be visible. For appearance purposes this rod was slightly shorter than the flag itself, giving it that rippled effect (that is, after all, how we are all use to viewing the flag). Furthermore, when NASAs’ scientists sent Apollo 11 to the moon, they had public policy in mind. When it comes to viewing the flag on the moon, which would make for a better presentation: a limp, dreary flag, or a flag standing proud in its nation’s namesake? I think the response is obvious. The fact is the U.S. flag appears to have ripples in it in photographs on the moon because NASAs’ scientist intended it to.

Also see a response to the moon “truthers”  here.
My favorite refutation as to the flag waving is contained in this Mythbusters clip.

 

Bill Whittle below notes that quite a few young people believe in the conspiracy theories that the moon landing was a hoax.  This is a testament to both the ignorance of many people in contemporary society and the ability of people to believe what they wish to believe, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.

 

 

 

The moon landings were an amazing feat, considering the technology of the time was just barely adequate to accomplish it.   Our technology in the past 54 years has advanced quite a bit, but I think in what really counts in this Vale of Tears: Faith, Courage, Daring and Optimism for the Future, we have radically declined as a people.  Perhaps that is why so many young people refuse to believe that with laughable computers fifty-four years ago, along with endless hard work, superb creativity, determination and astronauts who had daring to spare,  we became a space faring nation.  More’s the pity.

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Anzlyne
Anzlyne
Sunday, July 20, AD 2014 6:55am

At least a partial Criterion for our next choice for president of U.S. : “… what really counts in this Vale of Tears: Faith, Courage, Daring and Optimism for the Future…”

Tamsin
Tamsin
Sunday, July 20, AD 2014 9:13pm

“space age values”

I’m trying to raise my boys with those values. My husband is the embodiment of those values. 🙂 We’ll see how well we do.

I was baptized at the Chapel of the Space Age. No, really. That’s what it was called in my baby book.

Agnes Bullock
Agnes Bullock
Thursday, July 20, AD 2023 6:16am

My father worked for Grumman, the company that built the Lunar Module. He was the Director of Federal Legislation so travelled to that pit of vipers, DC, every week. He and Mater, who is still kicking at 95, ensured we knew how the government worked and that we knew our rights as citizens.

Anyway, I clearly remember the nights he came home with the contracts for both the Module and the F14 signed. As a child, I would tell people my dad built both even though he wasn’t an engineer-

We watched the moon landing that day and I saw my Dad raising that flag and I still do-

Grumman employed a lot of people on Long Island and it was devastating when it was bought by Northrop in 1995- my parents met there during Mom’s first two weeks of work there, her twin worked as the admin assistant for a group of engineers and under President Carter held a security clearance linked directly to him, the husband of their eldest sister worked for Grumman as an engineer, several cousins worked in different capacities, my eldest brother during college break and later for a few years after he retired from the military (and when it was Northrop Grumman)-

GregB
GregB
Thursday, July 20, AD 2023 9:18am

The flag waving on the moon was acting like a pendulum under the influence of the lunar gravity with the horizontal support rod acting as the pivot point. When talking about the NASA moon program we need to remember that the NASA budget at its peak was around 4-5% of the federal budget during the Apollo program. It is currently around .5% of the federal budget. No bucks no Buck Rogers.
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There is an interesting video debunking the moon hoax on YouTube where a filmmaker goes into what it would have taken to attempt to fake the moon landings. The technology back then was nothing like what we have available today. In the light of what is taking place in current events the video also has very relevant social commentary as well.
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Dale Price
Dale Price
Thursday, July 20, AD 2023 9:19am

One of my favorite stories of the Apollo era involved a profound insight into the adventurous nature of the astronauts.

When it was announced that Apollo 11 would tentatively be the moon landing mission, Apollo 10 had yet to launch, but it was planned to be a full “dress rehearsal” for the moon landing, complete with taking the lander close-ish to the surface.

Recognizing the nature of the men they were working with, mission control personnel met with the Apollo 10 crew and told them this essential fact: “yes, you could take the lunar lander to the surface, but you won’t have enough fuel to get back to the command module.”

As it was, the Apollo 10 crew had some unpleasant excitement during the dress rehearsal mission, but thought their way out of it.

https://www.history.com/news/apollo-10-disaster-apollo-11-practice-run#Apollo%2010%20Was%20A%20Full%20Dress%20Rehearsal%20For%20Apollo%2011

GregB
GregB
Thursday, July 20, AD 2023 10:34am

If you follow the links on the history.com article the author of the article has a YouTube Channel The Vintage Space. She as many videos covering the history of the space program.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Thursday, July 20, AD 2023 10:44am

This cloud easily be put to rest with satellite photos of the flag today. Surely it’s still up there?

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Thursday, July 20, AD 2023 10:45am

*could

GregB
GregB
Thursday, July 20, AD 2023 11:22am

The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter has photographed the Apollo landing sites. IIRC they have also been imaged by lunar orbiters of other nations. There are laser retroreflectors left by the Apollo missions that allow astronomers to measure the distance to the moon.

WK Aiken
WK Aiken
Thursday, July 20, AD 2023 11:41am

With the way the Soviets were watching everything, had this not actually occurred, they’d have been all over it.

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Thursday, July 20, AD 2023 11:42am

Communist China will beat us back to the moon. And they have a plan to build lunar colonies and stay. We however got woke NASA.

https://www.space.com/return-to-moon-china-space-race

Joe Koch
Thursday, July 20, AD 2023 12:59pm

LQC, I have been saying that for years

GregB
GregB
Thursday, July 20, AD 2023 2:33pm

By all that the woke CRT advocates hold dear, NASA is the very definition of “white privilege.” Any attribute that produces success and achievement is “white privilege.” By the process of elimination that leaves no positive attributes for people of color to aspire to. Talk about negative racial profiling.

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