For good reason, politics has dominated the news here in the UK. And if you’ve not seen what’s happening in Iran, this video goes through it. It’s a remarkable story. pic.twitter.com/lrLcoq4h4U
— Ros Atkins (@BBCRosAtkins) October 28, 2022
God plants with His finger the desire of human freedom in each soul. Tyrants may remove freedom from their victims, but the desire, the thirst for it, remains.
female university students in iran wave their headscarves in the air shouting ‘freedom, freedom, freedom!’
this genie is never going back in the bottle..pic.twitter.com/WVKY3A51yw
— ian bremmer (@ianbremmer) October 27, 2022
The genie will be called back to the bottle until the bottle (Islam) is broken in pieces.
“The genie will be called back to the bottle until the bottle (Islam) is broken in pieces.”
Remember that Iran is Shiite Islam and most of the rest of the Middle East is Shunni Muslim, and they hate each other, though they hate us in the West more.
BTW, a bright spot in Islam is King Abdullah II and Queen Rania of Jordan. Yes, I hope Islam is destroyed; nevertheless, I don’t want good leaders like King Abdullah and Queen Rania destroyed. True, they aren’t perfect. But with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, we’re ones to talk!
Some survey research on public opinion in the Near East and parts adjacent as to how modesty is defined.
Don’t think the burka is common outside of Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia.
I enjoy having Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, et al in the area.
It’s like Halloween year-round.
An Australian Senator pulled this stunt in 2017. Besides being a symbol of oppression, the Burkha is a security issue- who knows who is actually underneath one.
https://youtu.be/aaU40PznA9s
Some Muslim women in the west claim they wear the hijab by choice and out of respect to their religion. They claim it’s to maintain their modesty. Not so sure they’re being entirely honest with themselves or their fellow female Muslims. They’re shamed or judged if they don’t. A “good” Muslim wears a head wrap. That’s how it works.
They’re shamed or judged if they don’t. A “good” Muslim wears a head wrap. That’s how it works.
You’re shamed and judged for quite a few things. That’s generally to the good. My mother’s contemporaries, ca 1948, weren’t flaunting their cleavage, flaunting their midriffs, getting tattoos, flouncing around with masses of excess weight, or laden down with piercings. They looked about like this:
http://virtual-library.culturalservices.net/webingres/bedfordshire/vlib/0.wla/0.images/leighton_landgirls_herb_farm_web.jpg
My father’s had properly trimmed hair, had no tats unless they’d been to sea, and usually covered their heads outdoors:
You’re shamed and judged for quite a few things. That’s generally to the good.
No. You missed the point. Tattoos, weird haircuts and cleavage have nothing to do with religious observances. I know some really good Catholics who have tattoos and piercings.
The head-scarf for hundreds of years, regardless of societal fads, is a measure of how Muslim they are. The more they obscure their identity with head-covering, the more they are seen as adhering to their Faith. The purpose of the head scarf is to obscure and suppress the God-given identity of an entire gender, making it the property of the man. This is not normal or natural. The women who have a “choice” in the west to wear one and do, don’t actually do it with the freedom they claim they do. That’s the point.
The purpose of the head scarf is to obscure and suppress the God-given identity of an entire gender, making it the property of the man. This is not normal or natural.
Modesty is normal and natural, even if it bothers you. I take it you’ve never met any Mennonites.
Modesty is normal and natural. Oppression is not. The Muslim headscarf is not about modesty.
1st Corinthians 11:2-15
2 I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions just as I handed them on to you. 3 But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the husband is the head of his wife, and God is the head of Christ. 4 Any man who prays or prophesies with something on his head disgraces his head, 5 but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled disgraces her head—it is one and the same thing as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman will not veil herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or to be shaved, she should wear a veil. 7 For a man ought not to have his head veiled, since he is the image and reflection of God; but woman is the reflection of man. 8 Indeed, man was not made from woman, but woman from man. 9 Neither was man created for the sake of woman, but woman for the sake of man. 10 For this reason a woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man or man independent of woman. 12 For just as woman came from man, so man comes through woman; but all things come from God. 13 Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head unveiled? 14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair, it is degrading to him, 15 but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering. 16 But if anyone is disposed to be contentious—we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.
Oppression is not. The Muslim headscarf is not about modesty.
You’re not oppressed by a head scarf any more than you are by a coat and tie.
You’re not required to wear a coat and tie at the supermarket. And you won’t get scolded for taking them off in public because you’re uncomfortable. You are required to wear a headscarf everywhere in public view. If it’s hot. Swimming.
LQC—You are quoting a book authored by the true God. The Koran is not written by the true God. So do you require your wife to not cut her heat & to keep her head covered all the time?
Ezebelle, you are 100% correct.
You’re not required to wear a coat and tie at the supermarket. And you won’t get scolded for taking them off in public because you’re uncomfortable. You are required to wear a headscarf everywhere in public view. If it’s hot.
No, you were at one time required to wear one to keep your job. It wasn’t a worse world than the one we live in, though taken too far in some places. (John deLorean had a story about a GM executive sent home from work because his suit was the wrong color; it was brown rather than grey).
Conventions are in place because people experience embarrassment. The feeling of embarrassment with conventions beats the absence of conventions.
To The Christian Teacher, no.
I support Muslim women’s freedom from the hajib.
I support Christian women wearing a laced veil at Mass.
I do understand the difference.
In a Bible study I was told that the idea of women wearing a veil was to distinguish Christian worship from pagan. Pagan worship started with an offering to the idol, the meat from these offerings was made available in meat markets and dining halls near the pagan temples. At the dining halls people would eat the meat and get drunk and it would end in sexual orgies. Proper women wore their hair bound. Prostitutes wore their hair down signaling their sexual availability.