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PopeWatch: Warning

Apparently the Germans are going too far even for the Pope:

 

The Vatican on Thursday issued a brief statement which warned that the German “synodal way” is an exercise devoid of authority — that the multi-year process of consultation, deliberation, and drafting of documents and statements on various elements of the Christian life can’t actually change anything at all.

The booklet of the first synodal assembly in Frankfurt am Main, Germany, on Jan. 31, 2020. © Synodaler Weg/Malzkorn.

Attentive readers of The Pillar already knew that the process was consultative, that the votes of the entire assembly on documents calling for even disciplinary changes are consultative, and that only some definitive deliberation of the country’s bishops might have the power to change canon law, under very limited circumstances. 

And astute readers of The Pillar know that on doctrine, things are even more straightforward: that doctrinal development, much less reversal, is not determined by a body of lay and episcopal Germans. 

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But whatever readers of The Pillar know, the Holy See apparently felt it necessary to clarify again that the German synodal process is neither a gathering of policy-makers nor an ecumenical council, and that its deliberations have “no power to oblige the bishops and the faithful to adopt new ways of governing and new approaches to doctrine and morals.”

The statement reminded Germans that if particular churches “find themselves separated from the entire ecclesial body, they weaken, rot, and die.” 

The text seems meant to be a twofold call, for leaders of the “synodal way,” and for diocesan bishops in Germany. 

It seemed to urge “synodal way” leaders to reframe their process, so that it would be integrated into the global synod on synodality — not ending with concrete proposal of doctrinal or disciplinary change, but instead collecting a broad sense of how German Catholics perceive the life and mission of the Church.

To diocesan bishops, the Vatican’s statement emphasized that it “would not be lawful to initiate new official structures in dioceses before agreement at the level of the universal Church.”

German bishops, in short, should not approve in their dioceses the recommendations of the synod on things like the liturgical blessings of same-sex unions or the creation of permanent “synodal councils” exercising governance in place of the bishop.  

But will bishops or the “synodal way” leaders take heed? Will the warning make any kind of difference? There’s good reason to be skeptical.

 

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MrsOpey
MrsOpey
Friday, July 22, AD 2022 4:44am

I’ve been trying to compare this to past gatherings (was it Land O’Lakes that discussed ABC where the answer from the pope was suppressed?). There is really no comparison to an action (homosexual act) that is an intrinsic evil. They are not even hiding what their goals are, homosexual “marriage”.
I mean at this point, there is so much crap, it’s like trying to sift through a sewer to find something to eat. And yet PF keeps elevating the same people who push this and acts all surprised. If he really is surprised, then I can see why he gets along w Biden and Pelosi; crazy.

DJH
DJH
Friday, July 22, AD 2022 5:03am

I was under the impression that the German Synodal Path was not meant “to oblige the bishops and the faithful to adopt new ways of governing and new approaches to doctrine and morals,” but to simply codify what is already generally believed and put into open practice what is already going on in the shadows.
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A faction at the Pontifical Academy for Life has already come out with a document of sorts reversing the ban on contraception. Paglia and Co are uring Francis to give it his blessing

John F. Kennedy
John F. Kennedy
Friday, July 22, AD 2022 5:46am

DJH, Translations I’ve read very clearly that once approved by the German Synod it was to be binding on the Bishops. Only one bishop had expressed reservations about it. The ones “in-charge” appear to be Christian in name only.

Pinky
Pinky
Friday, July 22, AD 2022 7:59am

This Synod on Synodality may actually turn out to be about Synodality, by accident, as it demonstrates the limits of the concept.

Art Deco
Friday, July 22, AD 2022 8:04am

I’m sure the demonstrated ‘limits of the concept’ will prove motivating for all salient actors.

Magdalene
Magdalene
Friday, July 22, AD 2022 8:39am

Every once in a while the false church throws out something that looks Catholic. But they will then do the opposite at another opportunity.

Guy McClung
Admin
Friday, July 22, AD 2022 8:49am

“The German “synodal way” is an exercise devoid of authority .” Wrong! Heretical Amoris Laetita is all the authority they need. The reason Vatican puppetmasters are coming down publicly on the German demonic/heretic/sodomitic ordained clergy is that they have violated two cardinal [no pun] rules of totalitarianism: they turned the pot on to full boil for the stupid frogs enjoying the warm bath; and they ran in front of the bear. Of course the obsessed and possessed in power in the Vatican want everything the Sin-odal New clerical Nazis want, but they know they must be sly as serpents, because they are the serpent’s minions. Guy, Texas

CAG
CAG
Friday, July 22, AD 2022 10:32am

they turned the pot on to full boil for the stupid frogs enjoying the warm bath

Exactly! It’s like they’ve abandoned all pretense and are engaged in a mad dash for the finish line before someone pulls the rug out from under them.

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