Should-be-a-Bond-villain Gates takes time off from his plan to darken the light we receive from the Sun to tell us that we should all be eating fake meat. I am sure he is perpetually upset that we, the peasants, still get to make some of our own choices.
Saturday, May 18, AD 2024 1:12am
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“Meat” grown in petri dishes in a lab. That should be affordable to the average family, right?
What is he smoking?
I’d concentrate my fire on Soros, Bezos, Zuckerberg, and some of the creatures at Google and Twitter. Gates has strange ideas, but he’s not a threat to the constitutional system the way these other characters are.
Perfect example of someone with too much time on his hands.
Ian Fleming’s formula was a powerful megalomaniac threatening mankind and James Bond stopping it.
We need to stop Soros, Gates, Bezos, Muckerburg, et al.
Re: this meat schtick. Like Climate hoax profiteering, he probably thinks he’ll make a trillion $$$ at it.
I’m no expert here, but when I look at things like rising food allergies, cancer, dementia, autism, and generally seeing more and more people at younger and younger ages die, is it possible we’re doing something wrong? Is it possible there is something we’re doing that isn’t healthy? I know many, including the general scientific consensus, say there are other, logical explanations that have nothing to do with preservatives or chemicals or other things in our systems. But it does make you wonder.
Sorry Bill, Human beings are omnivores and part of this World.
ps. You’re not God.
Bill Gates has been an instigator of gene and reproduction therapy manipulation through vaccines in some third world nations with the result of women losing their ability to reproduce. He is the great population control advocate who has the resources to continue in this vein as he targets humans for his nefarious philosophy of population control. If he and others like him are allowed to do this without any restrictions or outrage from authorities the constitutional system will mean diddly squat.
I’m no expert here, but when I look at things like rising food allergies, cancer, dementia, autism, and generally seeing more and more people at younger and younger ages die
Life expectancy hasn’t been declining. COVID has knocked two years off it recently, but that’s from jacking up old-age mortality, not killing off the young. The proportion of deaths which are attributable to cancer isn’t much different than it was 50 years ago and the share of cancer deaths among those deaths not attributable to heart and circulatory disease hasn’t increased at all. You have more dementia; well, the number of people in this country over the age of 80 has quadrupled since 1970.
Life expectancy hasn’t been declining.
I didn’t say it has. I said I’m seeing these things among people at more and more, and at younger and younger ages. For instance, the BBC reported a couple years ago that food allergies have literally exploded off the map since the late 1990s. Could there be some reason this is suddenly happening? And I believe the story. Growing up I think I knew of a few people who had serious food allergies. One was peanuts. I think another was strawberries. Now I’m at pains to think of anyone I know who doesn’t have someone in their family with a serious food allergy. Again, no expert here, but wiling to think something has happened Same with dementia. The problem isn’t the increase in dementia cases, the problem is a news story I saw last week saying more and more at younger and younger ages are coming down with it. And visibly so. That’s the point.
If you say so, Dave. IMO, when you see a news story of that sort, you should assume they’re making stuff up or grossly misinterpreting something in order to gin up attention. I don’t think you’re going to discover if you check actual data that there’s been an increase in the incidence of dementia when you control for age. If we’re to be retailing personal stories, I have to say I cannot recall knowing anyone with a notable food allergy bar my father, who had an anaphlactic reaction to mustard.
Art, if it was only the single BBC story, that might be. There have been other such stories however. Plus, as I said, my own experience is that I knew few who had such allergies growing up, now I know nobody who doesn’t have someone with such an allergy. That was affirmed by my son’s allergist, who dismissed the connection to his flu shot, but confirmed that allergies are, and have been, on the rise. Same with dementia. My mom having dementia, we’ve jumped on it and taken her to special medical services that specialize in that. We’ve spoken about the increase in casers and the decrease in ages. They’ve also confirmed that the numbers are rising, and among younger being diagnosed (something that comes up, given my own concerns). If it was just a single BBC article, then yeah, easy to dismiss. But when I’ve seen the claims more than once, and my own experience echoes the articles, and the articles are confirmed by those in the respective medical fields, it becomes tough to easily dismiss.
Dave G:
Have you considered that modern medicine is allowing people to survive who in earlier generations might have died before reaching reproductive age? We no longer allow nature to eliminate “maladaptive” genes, but keep them in the population, because of our historic commitment (which is sadly disappearing) to all human life. I don’t propose that we change that, but it could have consequences for the health of these “survivors of natural selection” later in their lives, or for their offspring.
Tom, that certainly seems plausible. I doubt it’s any one reason, though some causes might have more to do with some problems. I just know there seems to be an increase in things like those mentioned since just a few decades ago. Some of it could be the amount, rather than the presence, of such things as processed foods for instance. I’ve told my sons that when I was growing up, McDonald’s was a rare treat. That thing we did on a special occasion. By the time my first son was born in the mid-90s, for many McDonald’s was a mainstay of the diet. Same with processed foods in general. So perhaps things that go into such foods aren’t, themselves, horrible for us. But maybe a society where many have to rely on the constant consumption of such foods with all their artificial glory, could be one among many issues. That being a single issue. Just a hunch on my part.
This would be sold to the peons as “an easy way to eat healthy.” But the “synthetic beef” is so overly processed and jacked full of preservatives that it ends up being less healthy than a fast food burger, never mind a homemade steak.
And there’s the factor that diagnosis has changed with the times. in other words, conditions that may have existed undiagnosed 70 years ago are now diagnosed.
Bob, I’m sure some of that as well. And yet, like food allergies, those aren’t a question of such things. That’s something, per my son’s allergist, they admit has suddenly begun to spike in the last couple decades, though explanations vary.
Pink Slime or artificial meat was being served to school children.
My mom having dementia, we’ve jumped on it and taken her to special medical services that specialize in that. We’ve spoken about the increase in casers and the decrease in ages. They’ve also confirmed that the numbers are rising, and among younger being diagnosed (something that comes up, given my own concerns).
IMO (again, we’re retailing personal experiences here), doctors are not actuaries and you often get nonsense answers when you ask them questions along those lines. Doctors know their treatment protocols. Even the oncologist we were consulting 15 years back wasn’t giving us properly framed answers. You really have to put together your own bibliography and / or check secondary sources for guidance.
Cooking hamburger, whether for sauce or burgers, gives amounts of the pink slime as a side to trash before it also becomes an unwanted product in the pasta sauce. Not fun to see.
Better off Ted did the synthetic beef joke:
Back in 2009!
Whoever thought there would be a curse to live long enough to see your childhood satire become real?
Bill Gates could eat cardboard for all anyone cares. Besides, someone beat him to the idea: https://www.quorn.co.uk/news/what-is-quorn
On another note, I don’t get why someone would want to eat a fake meat that tasted like meat. Either you eat meat and like it or you don’t like it and don’t eat it. Why eat a fake substitute? It’s kind of like having low-fat cream or milk. Either have it and enjoy it or don’t have it. Seem strange.
My daughter blames rampant allergies on vaccines… real ones, not the gene therapy for Covid. That’s another matter.
“doctors are not actuaries and you often get nonsense answers when you ask them questions along those lines.”
That’s possible, though my son’s allergist is high up in the whole ENT/Allergy field. It’s possible he doesn’t know such things. My mom’s dementia board, however, is just that. It’s s service we can only take her to owing to my late dad’s phenomenal insurance he got from the railroad. We actually meet with a board of several individuals, from doctors and RNs to therapists and others from the Dementia/Alzheimer’s world. Generally at least a half dozen at any given meeting. They were the ones that suggested to me to have my sister and I watched, because it is becoming more common, and more common among younger adults. Something I’ve seen in several stories, and something I’ve noticed in my day to day among those I know. So in those cases, it gets tough to think everything I’m seeing and noticing, the news reports, and all of the various experts in the different fields and subjects are missing the mark. There could be many reasons these things are happening of course. But that it isn’t happening seems to be outside of what a growing number of outlets, and people I know, are experiencing.
KMBOLD, our previous doctor said something about this, and that was several years ago. He said it would be difficult to pinpoint the cause of such things, because we have so many artificial materials coming into us from everywhere. It may not be a case of ‘this one thing causes that.’ It could be various combinations that would be nearly impossible to track.
In my non-medical mind, I thought of Tim Burton’s original Batman. movie. The Joker poisons Gotham, not by making this or that product poisonous. But by making it so that certain combinations of products will trigger a toxic event. What we’re seeing could be that. So our son is the only one in our family to get a flu shot, and the only one to have a fatal food allergy that came out only after he got that shot. They insist the two aren’t related. But it could be the flu shot triggered something else, or a combination of other things at that moment, that caused it. I don’t know. It’s just hard to believe it’s all some coincidence.
I’m no expert here, but when I look at things like rising food allergies, cancer, dementia, autism, and generally seeing more and more people at younger and younger ages die, is it possible we’re doing something wrong?
It’s called the Survivorship Bias. (Story, image, explanation here)
Just as Iraq had one of the highest rates of disabled veterans to battle-field fatalities we’d ever seen…because the vast majority didn’t die. We went from calculating that most people die in the first two-four hours it takes for real medical to show up, to “if they survive for field medicine to reach them, they’ll probably live.” (Israeli Bandages are awesome.)
See also, that perennial news story about “why is it that with all the money spent on health care, the average American is in poorer health than [third world country]?” where they ignore that, gosh, Third World Country of choice doesn’t have a lot of folks on dialysis for 15 years, much less wandering around at the grocery store with their oxygen tank in a bag on their back, because they are dead before they could benefit from either.
Or the way that the US is recorded as having horrible infant mortality rates– because we consider preterm babies with any signs of life to be premature, not miscarriages. (including heart monitors before birth as a sign of life)
The nurse that walked us out of the NICU yesterday has a 9 month old boy who was born just shy of 24 weeks. He’s scooting around, but would be classified as unhealthy because he’s closer to his from-conception development than his from-birth development. If left untreated, he’d just be dead, and not even a stillbirth.
A lot of the diet-fad groups boil down to people identifying allergies or sensitivities that previously they would have just lived with– I know several people who had “arthritis” that turned out to be triggered by a specific food. (One of them was bemoaning the loss of french fries, so the topic headed that way. Lots of nightshade triggers, with a splattering of wheat protein and nuts, with one person who got stuck with soy.)
My husband’s CCD class has a girl with celiac disease– she would’ve been just another “failure to thrive” in the graveyard, rather than being a tall, healthy, high-school sports star that spends a lot of time looking at labels. Nobody is surprised when a sickly child dies, but they’d notice if she went into anaphylactic shock on the court.
It’s the flip side of what my family has been growling about for ages: “Oh, it says so and so died of [currently focused-on thing]. He was nearly a hundred, he died of being old!” A lot of problems turn out to be from where and how folks are looking, and how they’re defining the problem.