Street Fascists Attacking Jews

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Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Sunday, May 16, AD 2021 5:31am

Hamas and Antifa…like peas and carrots.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Sunday, May 16, AD 2021 7:55am

Why Won’t The Israelis Let Themselves Get Murdered?

They’re (1968 and 2021) Are Not For Mideast Peace. They’re On the Other Side.

Patrick59
Patrick59
Sunday, May 16, AD 2021 2:12pm

From what I have read the origin of this this dispute centers on land that belonged to Israeli citizens before expulsion and resettlement by Jordon, then the loss of Jordanian authority after the next war upon Israel. I have not been trained in law but my impression is that the original Jewish owners have a stronger claim. However each side has an opportunity to present its claim and the findings subject to appeal. I have not seen any complaints about the fairness of the legal procedures or reasons that the judgement is unacceptable.

Many Jews and Christians have been expelled from Arab lands without any legal process and there is doubt if any non Muslim can be treated fairly under Sharia Law.

It is also interesting that the Arabs who want a Palestinian homeland, but want it in Israel. I’m old enough to remember Black September when Palestinians were expelled from Jordan for abusing that country’s hospitality, then migrated to Lebanon where they provoked a civil war and Syrian intervention.

https://www.memri.org/reports/black-september-then-and-now

https://vivabarneslaw.locals.com/post/675109/article-of-the-day-saturday-may-15-2021#comments

Foxfier
Admin
Sunday, May 16, AD 2021 4:00pm

I’m old enough to remember Black September when Palestinians were expelled from Jordan for abusing that country’s hospitality, then migrated to Lebanon where they provoked a civil war and Syrian intervention.

???

Jordan’s entire reason for creation was to BE their homeland.

They then exiled the trouble makers– which somehow makes it Israel’s fault/problem?

CAM
CAM
Sunday, May 16, AD 2021 9:07pm

The Christian Arabs are caught in a squeeze between the Israelis and the Muslin Arabs. Down to 2%. Lebanon used to be 49 or 50% Christian. Very sad.
Trump”s Near East Peace Plan was progressing. Biden’s foreign policy is a mess.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Monday, May 17, AD 2021 3:51am

The population of Lebanon was 54% Christian in 1932. I think there are still a great many Christians there, just not the majority; there hasn’t been a census there in nearly 90 years. About 2% of Jordan’s population is Christian. Israel’s population is 2% Christian. Fuzzy estimates in re the West Bank and Gaza put the Christian population there at < 2% There is no official data on the number of Christians in Egypt; authorities who toss out estimates have 6% as a lower bound. Syria and Iraq have been such a mess for so long that there’s no reliable estimate. There hasn’t been an indigenous Christian population in the Maghreb or on the Arabian peninsula for centuries. Christians in Iran were largely to be found in the Armenia minority. Christians in Turkey were largely to be found in the Armenian and Greek populations, one located in the northeast corner of the territory, the other on the Aegean coast. The bulk of these populations were expelled or killed between 1915 and 1923.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Monday, May 17, AD 2021 7:34am

“The population of Lebanon was 54% Christian in 1932. I think there are still a great many Christians there, just not the majority;”

Yes, was the majority however nearly half now. 46% Christians- 26% Maronite, 9% Orthodox and 6% Melkite- the largest Christian population in the entire Middle East

The Constitution of Lebanon states that the President is to be elected as a Catholic Maronite. Period. No other Arab Nation has a Christian President.

The Civil War in Lebanon was ignited by PLO and Syria didnt “intervene” it was opportunistic and took Lebanon’s Civil War as an excuse to occupy the Nation with troops for years. I recall as an 8 year old child, Syrian Army officer arguing with my mother’s cousin, a member of the Lebanese Army for not letting us cross a checkpoint in Beirut to visit family in the North of Lebanon. If you think illegal immigration is a problem in the US, it pales in comparisons the amount of illegal Syrians living and working in Lebanon and taking every cent back to Syria. Not to mention the Palestinian settlements which occupy parts of Beirut.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Monday, May 17, AD 2021 10:11am

Damour Massacre (occurred in a Lebanese Christian town 20minutes south of Beirut) in 1976 where Muslim militia and Palestinian Liberation Army massacred up to 500 Christians.

A Christian Maronite priest Father Mansour Labaky called it “an apocalypse.”
“They were coming, thousands and thousands, shouting ‘Allahu Akbar! (God is great!) Let us attack them for the Arabs, let us offer a holocaust to Mohammad!”, and they were slaughtering everyone in their path, men, women and children.”

The land where Christ walked seem to be the most despised by the devil.

Patrick59
Patrick59
Monday, May 17, AD 2021 4:04pm

“ Damour Massacre (occurred in a Lebanese Christian town 20minutes south of Beirut) in 1976 where Muslim militia and Palestinian Liberation Army massacred up to 500 Christians.”

What happens to Christian in the Middle East often seems to be ignored or minimized by the USA and international communities. I’m not aware of any modern interventions by the US or international communities to help the persecuted Middle East Christians.

My ideas about our Nation’s Middle East Military adventures changed after speaking with one of our Chaldean interpreters who lost most of her family to kidnapping and murder following our invasion and occupation. This is a reason that I find our calls for regime change and involvement in the Syrian Civil War very disturbing.

In retrospect Regan’s intervention in Lebanon resulted in the deaths of many Marines and ultimately proved harmful to the Christians in that nation, but very advantageous to those who despise our nation’s citizens.

I have also come to even questioned if it was in our nation’s best interest to arm the Afghanistan Mujahideen with shoulder fired missiles to attack Russian aircraft.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Monday, May 17, AD 2021 5:43pm

My ideas about our Nation’s Middle East Military adventures changed after speaking with one of our Chaldean interpreters who lost most of her family to kidnapping and murder following our invasion and occupation. This is a reason that I find our calls for regime change and involvement in the Syrian Civil War very disturbing.

Who would you prefer in Iraq, Uday or Qusay?

Patrick59
Patrick59
Monday, May 17, AD 2021 6:00pm

Who would you prefer in Iraq, Uday or Qusay?

My preference is to have a legitimately elected President as the Commander in Chief of my country.

I don’t think it my place, or my Country’s State Department, to chose who rules, Iraq,, Syria, Libya, Egypt, or Ukraine.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Tuesday, May 18, AD 2021 4:57am

I don’t think it my place, or my Country’s State Department, to chose who rules, Iraq,, Syria, Libya, Egypt, or Ukraine.

How scrupulous. You think it’s ‘the place’ of the local brigands just why?

The State Department never chose who rules Syria, Libya, Egypt, or the Ukraine. It didn’t exactly choose who runs Iraq, either. The Egyptian and Ukranian regimes suffered an abrupt loss of obedience which left the head of state unable to apply force. (In Egypt this happened twice). This is not a rare phenomenon and resolves itself in several ways.

There’s a sailerite / paleo-conservative strain who admires skeevy foreign governments as long as they’re hostile to the United States, so you had Thos. Fleming turning his publication into a press agency for bloodthirsty Serb nationalists and you had Steve Sailer’s comment boxes over-run with fools enraged that Vladimir Putin’s protege had been sent packing in the Ukraine. I have no clue why people invest in this nonsense, other than there’s commonly a self-aggrandizing aspect to contrarianism.

What’s notable about Iraq, Syria, and Libya is that they were run by men whose modus operandi was radically dissimilar to how political life was conducted in these places prior to a certain date (1958, 1963, and 1969 respectively) and that they were rather adverse to leaving the rest of the world alone. This was particularly manifest in regard to Iraq, which had madcap ambitions to conquer every Arab state east of Egypt.

“Nation-building” is a nonsense term.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Tuesday, May 18, AD 2021 5:18am

Rather dire reality in Afghanistan and, to a lesser extent, in Iraq.

The rather dire reality in those places has been disorder. Nations exist or they don’t. A national outlook can be promoted and fed by a central government (see France, 1789-1918), but you’d be hard put to find a nation manufactured out of the designs of politicians. The U.S. Government didn’t try to do that in either locale. They did try to implant institutions which would allow for negotiation and accommodation between competing segments of society. In neither locale was this completely unprecedented. There was experimentation with elected conciliar bodies during the late Ottoman period, institutional implants by the British mandatory authority which didn’t disappear entirely until 1958, and King Zahir Shah’s attempt at parliamentary institutions (1963-73). There’s multi-ethnic Pakistan right next door, where parliamentary institutions have bumped and ground along since 1985, interrupted for only one three year span of time (1999-2002).

Art Deco
Art Deco
Tuesday, May 18, AD 2021 6:35am

There’s repeated use of the term ‘nation-building’ in the article, but no actual ‘nation building’ activity, just references to attempts to impose order and put a bureaucracy in place.

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