16 Years For Burning a Flag

As Robert Heinlein predicted long ago, these are the crazy years:

 

– An Iowa man was sentenced to about 16 years in prison after he set fire to a church LGBTQ flag in June.

Adolfo Martinez, 30, of Ames last month was found guilty of a hate crime – a class “D” felony – third-degree harassment and reckless use of fire. Police said he stole a pride banner hanging at Ames United Church of Christ and burned it early June 11 outside the Dangerous Curves Gentleman’s Club.

Martinez admitted to police that he lit the banner on fire using lighter fluid and a lighter after stealing it from the church, according to court documents.

Story County Attorney Jessica Reynolds said hate crime charges were added because Martinez is suspected of criminal mischief against someone’s property because of “what it represents as far as sexual orientation.”

Go here to read the rest.  So let’s unpack this shall we?  The US Supreme Court has ruled that laws punishing the burning of the American flag are unconstitutional because of their infringement on freedom of speech.  Now we have a man getting 16 years for the petty theft of stealing a gay flag and burning it later.  (Treating such a burning as arson is truly absurd.)  As Orwell observed in Animal Farm, some animals are more equal than others.

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Dave Griffey
Dave Griffey
Friday, December 20, AD 2019 9:57am

If they had only charged him with stealing it would have been OK. He did, after all, steal someone’s property. Slap on the wrists and the usual punishment for petty theft. Or even theft. But to add hate crime? Sixteen years in prison? Does the Left ever get tired of double standards and hypocrisy?

Nate Winchester
Nate Winchester
Friday, December 20, AD 2019 10:40am

Dave, after all your time at Pathoes, you really think the Left gets tired of it? 😉

This is what Lewis warned about a benevolent tyranny. That the approval of one’s conscience would long sustain a person against exhaustion.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Friday, December 20, AD 2019 3:35pm

They don’t employ the instruments of torture or the stake. Otherwise, the left and the Inquisition are the same animal.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Friday, December 20, AD 2019 3:40pm

Orwell, Animal Farm. “Some animals is more equal than others.”

If you think you live in a free country, you are delusional.

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Friday, December 20, AD 2019 4:04pm

I think we should burn every sodomite flag in these United States of America. That’s the least which Phinehas (Numbers 25:6-9) and Mattathias would have done (1st Maccabees 2:19-26).

Kathleen Casey
Kathleen Casey
Saturday, December 21, AD 2019 4:53am

Appeal! I would be happy to help with it from here in NYS.

Foxfier
Admin
Saturday, December 21, AD 2019 7:14am

Caffeinated Thoughts summed it up rather impressively:
This is insane and it could have been worse. He could have been sentenced to approximately 25 years in prison for burning an LGBTQ Pride flag.
Don’t get me wrong, he violated the law. He stole and destroyed someone else’s property. He should face consequences for that, but 16 years? That is more than what some Iowans have been sentenced for killing someone.

AND THEN HE WENT AND LISTED OFF A BUNCH OF TIMES IT HAD HAPPENED.

Foxfier
Admin
Saturday, December 21, AD 2019 7:15am

Otherwise, the left and the Inquisition are the same animal.

Movie Inquisition, T. Shaw. Actual Inquisition used such novel ideas as “evidence” and “due process.”

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Saturday, December 21, AD 2019 9:05am

Poetic, but extremely sad would be the majority rule of those folks who profess; Allāhu akbar (الله أكبر), in a future Amerika where the proud rainbow flag supporters loose their life, rather than a American who doesn’t agree with their lifestyle lost 16 years for scorching their precious flag.

Hyperbole?
Americans are aborting their future.
Muslims are giving birth to their future.

When the most popular newborn male child name is Mohammed in this country then the gay federation might want to jump back into the closet. Gay pride. Uh huh.

God is Great! He won’t be mocked forever.

Mary De Voe
Saturday, December 21, AD 2019 1:06pm

When the American Flag, a symbol that belongs to each and every sovereign citizen in joint and common tenancy, to protest the Viet Nam War, was burned, the Supreme Court said that it was an expression of free speech.
The stolen rainbow must be recovered for the children in our Posterity. One child asked her favorite color said: “Rainbow”. The rainbow given us by God Himself, must be recovered and our legacy to our Posterity must be innocence, since the newly conceived individual sovereign person, the standard of Justice for our nation, is conceived in moral and legal innocence. Protection of our constitutional Posterity is guaranteed in The Preamble.
Amendment VIII:
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
16 years in jail for burning a $1.99 Wal Mart flag that is plagiarized from the people of the United States and God, Himself is treason and these judges need to be removed from the bench and deported for treason against the American nation. They are not the personification of God’s perfect Justice, but imposters. Sodomites are not sovereign citizens of the American Nation since they have forfeit our Founding Principles.
Oh, Yes. George Washington saw this coming.
Anyone with the courage to lay down his life for freedom and truth sees this coming. We. the people are given our Founding Principles. Let us live or die by them.

Mary De Voe
Saturday, December 21, AD 2019 2:56pm

The person burning the LGBTQ flag was not burning the LGBTQ flag. That person was reclaiming our God-given rainbow. Imposing atheism on the people is a violation of our First Amendment.

Mary De Voe
Sunday, December 22, AD 2019 6:18am

The person was sentenced to 16 years in prison for rescuing our God-given rainbow.
Hang the judge on his own petard. Sentence the judge to prison for 16 years for violating out First Amendment against imposing atheism on the people and for violating out Eighth Amendment against cruel and unusual punishment.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Sunday, December 22, AD 2019 8:50am

Mary De Voe.

Yes to all of your thoughts.
The rainbow hijacking is going to be set straight one day in the future. The chastisement that befalls all mankind will not be flooding on a biblical scale, but it will be of biblical proportion.
It’s difficult to convey this message of consequences for actions against the God of mercy and love, but lovingly we must plant those seeds before fire falls from the sky. Before it’s too late to speak Truth to a segment of society that is happily living in sin. First our plank then the speck in their eyes.

I struggle with helping a lesbian at my workplace.
I try to sympathize with her past. Things unholy may have brought about this oasis of peace she clings to. Unfortunately it’s a mirage if she is engaging in unnatural behavior which she mistakenly identifies as love.
A love for Christ is the answer, where no mirages give false security and false peace.

It’s hard work and it’s God’s work.
I pray I don’t get in His way and trust that His words are used through this broken down reed that He picked from the marsh.

One Hail Mary.

Mary De Voe
Sunday, December 22, AD 2019 10:55am

PHILIP NACHAZEL Two Hail Marys. It took Monica 30 years of praying for Augustine.
God loves your lesbian friend very much. God sent her you and through you, now me. Many prayers

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Sunday, December 22, AD 2019 11:46am

Mary De Voe.

Many prayers. Yes.
As the body of Christ we all can pray for her return to Him. As you said, He does love her very much.
Thank you Mary De Voe.
God bless you.
May the Peace of the Christ child remain in you forever.

Mary De Voe
Sunday, December 22, AD 2019 12:22pm

and you too Philip and Mrs. Philip.

Mary De Voe
Sunday, December 22, AD 2019 12:44pm

Foxfier:: My brother was murdered. The murderer got 18 months. Father said that at the trial the murderer had better be careful or the court will pin a medal on him for his crime.

Penguins Fan
Penguins Fan
Sunday, December 22, AD 2019 4:41pm

This falls under the violation of cruel and unusual punishment. The homosexuals never trademarked the rainbow stripes as belonging to them exclusively. That crowd can and must be confronted. Damn the prosecuting attorney and the judge who tried and exacted this sentence. They are evil people and I am nearly at the end of my rope with BS like this, the Impeachment, the media and the Left as a whole.

This past summer, there was a gay pride parade in a Polish city, ostensibly organized, paid for and staffed by a rent a mob consisting of many bussed in foreigners. The Russian network RT covered it as well as the Poles dressed in gasmasks and hazmat suits spraying some sort of fungicide and sweeping the streets after the parade passed.

Foxfier
Admin
Sunday, December 22, AD 2019 9:06pm

I’m sorry, Mary.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Monday, December 23, AD 2019 4:14am

Mary De Voe.

Prayers for your family just went heavenward. I’m sorry as well.
God be with him.

Mary De Voe
Monday, December 23, AD 2019 8:36am

Bless you both, Foxfier and Philip. Hail Marys

Guy McClung
Admin
Monday, December 23, AD 2019 11:34am

Mary-This is small comfort or no comfort, but you will be happy again at some point with your brother. I have two children and at least four grandchildren with God, and thinking about being with them makes me try to do good and avoid evil so that I see them all someday. I thank their guradian angels for keeping them company until I can get there [purgatory IS real].

God bless you and yours and always keep all y’all safe in the palm of His hand. Prayer deal: you pray for me and mine, I pray for you and yours.

Merry CHRISTmas! Guy, Texas

Mary De Voe
Monday, December 23, AD 2019 1:08pm

Thank you for sharing.
“God bless you and yours and always keep all y’all safe in the palm of His hand. Prayer deal: you pray for me and mine, I pray for you and yours.”
“Merry CHRISTmas! Guy, Texas” from Mary De Voe
You and yours are in my daily prayers until I meet you in heaven.

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