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Not Worth a Pitcher of Warm Spit

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Worst damnfool mistake I ever made was letting myself be elected Vice President of the United States. Should have stuck with my old chores as Speaker of the House. I gave up the second most important job in the Government for one that didn’t amount to a hill of beans. I spent eight long years as Mr. Roosevelt’s spare tire. I might still be Speaker if I didn’t let them elect me Vice-President.

John Nance “Cactus Jack” Garner

Open thread on the Vice (Yawn!) Presidential debate.  This debate features one candidate with truly Catholic moral beliefs, and he is the apostate from Catholicism to Evangelicalism, Mike Pence!  Tim Kaine of course had the misfortune as a young man of having his religious beliefs influenced by Jesuits.  Just imagine what might have been if he encountered a Catholic religious order!  Potential vice presidents debating always remind me of two bald men fighting over a comb.  However if Clinton wins Kaine might well have to assume the Presidency once Clinton’s health deteriorates to the point where she can no longer function, unless Bill Clinton pulls an Edith Wilson.  Trump seems hale and hearty, but he is seventy and the chance of Pence assuming the Presidency of a President in his seventies is not inconsequential.

Update:

At 8:41 PM Central Time Pence is winning going away.  Calm, reasoned and oh so effective at staying on message.  Kaine acts as if he drank a dozen cups of coffee.  Too wired and not effective.  I wish Pence was on the top of the ticket.  He may serve to reassure voters that he will provide adult supervision in a Trump administration.

At 9:13 PM Pence is still dominating the debate.  Pence tonight is gravitas incarnate.

Frank Luntz sums up the reaction of Democrats to Tim Kaine’s performance with this picture:

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Note how “Catholic” Tim Kaine at the close of the debate attempted to gain votes on the backs of aborted babies.  Truly disgusting.

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Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Tuesday, October 4, AD 2016 8:01pm

I would say that Kaine’s performance thus far is somewhat Trumpesque.

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Tuesday, October 4, AD 2016 8:16pm

Never dialogue with one of Satan’s minions.

Oakes Spalding
Tuesday, October 4, AD 2016 9:42pm

This post nailed it. I suspect that Pence secretly disagrees with at least 30%+ of Trump’s statements and positions. But you know what? Pence is a good and loyal man–out of principle and charity, not ideological or personal self-centeredness. Or so it seems. And yes, there’s a difference. Pence mopped the floor with Kaine, but he did it as a gentlemen.

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Wednesday, October 5, AD 2016 3:58am

Kaine conflated death penalty with abortion by using that at the beginning of answering the last question on conflict between faith and politics. Because JP II, B XVI and now Francis have all been stridently anti-death penalty, he falsely used that as an example of Church teaching – “my Church opposes the death penalty but as Governor I upheld Virginia’s death penalty laws.” The fact is that B XVI said Catholics in good standing can disagree about the death penalty but cannot disagree about certain fixed issues like abortion.
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The other thing that really pissed me off is Kaine saying that we should trust women to make private decisions about their own bodies without govt interference. That’s BS. The baby isn’t her body. And what about the man who fathered the child? Doesn’t he have rights?
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Here’s the thing. You wallow in heat like a freaking baboon, then you make a baby. You don’t get to say, “Oh, I made a mistake.” Are you really such a non-sentient animal that you can’t control your own body and you just have to have your genitals titillated no matter what, and then abdicate responsibility and evade accountability for what you so willingly did? And the “you” in those statements is plural because it takes a man and a woman to make a baby.
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You know, in the case of Democrats, maybe they are non-sentient animals and maybe they should be treated as such. Kaine certainly looked like a Hyena last night. When is the Church going to ex-communicate these heretics? And how long will God stay His mighty hand of mercy for the unborn before He wipes people like Kaine into the dust bin of history along with Hitler and Stalin and Mao?

Philip
Philip
Wednesday, October 5, AD 2016 6:00am

@Leviticus Quinctius Cincinnatus.

Yes! They are animals.
They believe in animal instinct and man sharing that trait because many of them do not believe in the existence of God.
Spirit? What’s that?

So they kill. They cheat. They pillage not caring in the slightest of their neighbors nor the concept of eternity.

Dogs and pigs.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Wednesday, October 5, AD 2016 6:36am

Of course , I didn’t watch. From the video tape, Kaine proved competent to inquire daily about the president’s health and attend state funerals, not much else. I don’t know about “devout Catholics.” Does the definition include living in an open marriage and murdering millions of unborn babies?

RasheedJefferson1415
RasheedJefferson1415
Wednesday, October 5, AD 2016 11:53am

“Frank Luntz sums up the reaction of Democrats to Tim Kaine’s performance with this picture.”

That, Mr. McClarey, is what the kids call a meme. And it’s an offensive one to corpses at that. How dare you, you living body supremacist.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Wednesday, October 5, AD 2016 3:11pm

Plus, De mortuis nil nissi bonum. Also, Ben Franklin said, “If you have nothing good to say about someone, don’t say anything.” The quote especially “works” for Hillary regarding her list of zero accomplishes.

Art Deco
Wednesday, October 5, AD 2016 6:28pm

There is something anomalous abut Tim Kaine. He’s from a perfectly ordinary family, supposedly graduates from college summa cum laude, cadges a degree from Harvard Law School (surely that’s overkill if you just want an ordinary law job), does mission work in Honduras along the way, then settles in his wife’s home town. He works for one firm which was subsequently dissolved, then goes to work for his father-in-law’s firm, a provincial metropolitan firm with (as we speak) 27 lawyers. All of the political offices he held between 1987 and 2005 were part time legislative and/or ceremonial positions, then he’s elected Governor. Along the way, this summa cum laude Harvard lawyer with the Jesuit schooling utters the same banal rot on non-negotiables every partisan Democrat does. Couldn’t all that schooling have taught him some creative rot?

The pieces don’t fit together.

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