Popewatch: Minor Rules

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On Wednesday Pat Archbold at Creative Minority Report expressed his satisfaction that Pope Francis at a General Audience was reading from a prepared text.  Go here to read the post and to view the picture of the Pope reading from the text.  No more ad-libbing hurrah!

However, it was then pointed out by one of the commenters that the Pope departed from the prepared text and did ad-lib.

One of the ad-libs:

The Church has her roots in the teaching of the Apostles, authentic witnesses of Christ, but looks to the future, and has the fixed awareness of being sent by Christ, of being Christ’s missionary, of bringing forth Christ’s name by prayer, proclamation and witness. A Church closed in on herself and the past, a Church who focuses only on minor rules and habits, betrays her own identity.

PopeWatch draws certain conclusions from this event.  First, that the Pope is probably never going to be bound by a text that he prepares, or, more likely, is prepared for him.  The second is that the Pope believes that the Church has been too focused “on minor rules and habits”.    Popewatch wonders “what minor rules and habits” the Pope has in mind?  The final conclusion is that the Pope believes that the Church has been “closed in on herself and the past”.  PopeWatch thinks that is a surprising way to characterize the Church at any time, but especially since Vatican II. PopeWatch supposes however that the Pope will eventually explain his meaning, perhaps in a future ad-lib.

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Phillip
Phillip
Friday, October 18, AD 2013 7:42am

Perhaps the past the Pope is talking about is that “Spirit of Vatican II” that never was the true spirit of that Council. Perhaps he is talking to those who continue to push the outdated theology of the 70’s. Or perhaps he is criticizing the false and materialistic horizontal religion of human worship characterized by the horrendous English translation that burdened the Church until two year ago. Perhaps he is calling to mind those who set up an idol of class and identity politics instead of the worship of God.

Perhaps.

old girl
old girl
Friday, October 18, AD 2013 9:45am

The Pope does sound pretty sick and tired of rules, himself.

old girl
old girl
Friday, October 18, AD 2013 9:49am

My other take is that he is a Pope in a Hurry. He knows that he knows not the day nor the hour.

Suz
Suz
Friday, October 18, AD 2013 5:16pm

Bring on the specifics! I’m a natural-born quitter, just let me know which minor rules and habits can go, and I’ll ditch ’em.
(Please not the Rosary. Please not the Rosary. Please…..)

Botolph
Botolph
Saturday, October 19, AD 2013 2:12am

I am beginning to get an impression. It is only an impression, but one that is becoming stronger over time. The impression is this: Pope Benedict has been for us, Peter. Gentle, quiet, rooted in Christ, always seeking the communion or unity of the Church-as we witnessed in his untiring pursuit of reconciliation, reintegration and full communion with SSPX. We witnessed it as well with the establishment of the Anglican Ordinariate, the first real fruit of our ecumenical work with the various ecclesial communities of the Reformation. Like Blessed John Paul before him, Benedict sought to prepare the Church for the New Evangelization, especially rooting the Church in the Gospel of Christ and interpreting Vatican II through its for Constitutions, with Dei Verbum, the Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation being the foundational and interpretive principle.

Pope Francis, is very much like Saint Paul: zealous to the point of seeming to be impatient in getting the whole Church actually doing the New Evangelization. Paul’s encounter with Christ sent him to the Gentiles- those on the fringe, etc. if we really read his Epistles carefully we see that he too had little patience with minor rules, customs etc-especially if the got in the way of or worse threatened the proclamation of the Gospel. While he even had the corage to enter into the Aeropagus of Athens, using Greek poetry and their search for God as a basis for evangelization, he had little patience with such rules as circumcision, dietary rules and the self-focusing taking place among some Jewish Christians and their Gentile disciples. Paul never left anyone ambiguous. He was criticized roundly within such churches as Corinth. I could go on…

I must say I consider myself blessed to be living in such days

Michael Paterson-Seymour
Michael Paterson-Seymour
Saturday, October 19, AD 2013 5:50am

I am reminded of Bl John Henry Newman’s remarks about the Orthodox Church, “It is much to be feared, from what travellers tell us of the Greek priesthood and their flocks, that both in Russia and in Greece Proper, they are more or less in this state,—which may be called the proper disposition towards heresy and schism; I mean, that they rely on things more than on persons, and go through a round of duties in one and the same way, because they are used to them, and because in consequence they are attached to them, not as having any intelligent faith in a divine oracle which has ordered them; and that in consequence they would start in irritation, as they have started, from such indications of that Oracle’s existence as is necessarily implied in the promulgation of a new definition of faith.”

He suggests that such a faith “is but material not formal, and really has neither the character nor the reward of that grace-implanted, grace-sustained principle, which believes, not merely because it was so taught in the nursery, but because God has spoken; not because there is no temptation to doubt, but because there is a duty to believe.”

Are there really no Catholic countries where religious observance has merely this national and hereditary character?

Marietta
Marietta
Saturday, October 19, AD 2013 7:48am

This Pope is a nag.

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DarwinCatholic
Saturday, October 19, AD 2013 5:45pm

It strikes me as unnecessarily binary thinking to take the pope as meaning that at any given time the Church has been entirely “closed in on herself and the past… focuse[d] only on minor rules and habits”. At any given point, though, that’s a potential way of going wrong — seen more or less like any error, given that errors come and go according to fashion.

I can easily think of people caught up on minor rules and habits just in the year we’ve had Pope Francis, whether it’s the people who went absolutely bonkers because he didn’t wear the traditional fur-trimmed vestment when coming out on the balcony and because he asked people to pray for him rather than just blessing them, or the people who think that Francis is some kind of second coming of Christ simply because he lives in St. Martha’s house rather than in the papal apartments or is driven in an old car.

Ez
Ez
Saturday, October 19, AD 2013 7:11pm

The Church “closed in on itself” probably has to so more with the grass roots level of people entering the Catholic Church. Pope Francis is very grass roots.

I suppose if one were to look at themselves (we can all look at ourselves, lawyers included 😉 ), ask yourself: how many people have you encouraged to know the Truth about the Catholic Faith to become Catholic?

Michael Paterson-Seymour
Michael Paterson-Seymour
Sunday, October 20, AD 2013 5:25am

I can give a very good example of “minor rules.” In Scotland, the Canon law, as it existed in 1560, remained the marriage law of the country, except where altered by statute. Similarly, a mass of material relating to benefices and teind was taken over from the canon law.

This means that we lawyers had constantly to delve into the undigested mass of the Decretals of Gratian, the Extravagantes, the Liber Extra and the Clementines. In this, we were luckier than the canonists themselves, who also had to cope with the all the new, undigested, material added ad hoc by pontifical legislation in the nearly four centuries after the Council of Trent. Anyone at all familiar with the old canon law will be struck by the mass of obsolete and contradictory material swept away by the Code of 1917, which itself underwent a thorough revision in the Code of 1983. Now, add to that the various administrative practices that developed round the law and one will understand Mgr Ronald Knox’s advice that “those embarked on the barque of Peter, should avoid looking into the engine room.”

Micha Elyi
Micha Elyi
Monday, October 21, AD 2013 3:51am

The Church “closed in on itself” probably has to so more with the grass roots level of people entering the Catholic Church. … [A]The Church “closed in on itself” probably has to so more with the grass roots level of people entering the Catholic Church. …

I suppose if one were to look at (oneself) … how many people have you encouraged to know the Truth about the Catholic Faith to become Catholic?
Ez

This is perhaps the most charitable interpretation of Pope Francis’s remark. It may even be correct. If so, even the much talked-about New Evangelization fails to do much to address the issue. Most New Evangelization effort appears to be focused on better catechization of people who are already Catholic.

Steve Phoenix
Steve Phoenix
Monday, October 21, AD 2013 4:26pm

Well, I don’t think we need fear this pope achieving some agreement of dramatic unity with the SSPX. Bergoglio yet again emphasizes his preference for discontinuity of the post-Vatican II era, and his view of the irrelevance of mostly all that came before it (except for his trust in a primitivist, “pure” view of the Apostolic period and those wonderful first decades). Hmmm. He goes on: “A Church closed in on herself and the past, a Church who focuses only on minor rules and habits, betrays her own identity.” Pope Francis again shows he has a remarkably negative viewpoint of rule and discipline, almost to the point of being anti-nomialist. Going further, I find Pope Francis’ pointed emphasis on his peculiar personal understanding of Vat2 (which I am sure is not my understanding: my understanding is based on Romano Amerio’s Iota Unum and Robert de Mattei’s Second Vatican Council: an Unwritten Story) as “something that has never really been tried” is almost fantastic, based on the experience of those of us who have been there for the past four/five decades. I am certain he has never read either book; and I am certain he doesnt read much at all based on his opinionated and continuing intemperate statements. It is clear he is going to impose the same rules and fiats that he disdains aimed at but with a decidedly anti-traditional bias (witness the situation with the Franciscan Friars of Mary Immaculate).

Mark
Mark
Wednesday, October 23, AD 2013 2:32pm

I find it amusing that people are having a hard time understanding this pope. Jesus said “Love God and Love Neighbor”. Pope Francis is repeating this commandment in every which way possible. There are too many ‘traditional’ Catholics who are caught up in the Rubics of being Catholic. For example: There is only one way to do Stations of the Cross. There are certain prayers that must be said with every rosary. Guitars have no place in the church nor Mass. etc etc etc.

There are two things that we need to concentrate on: Loving God with our whole mind, soul and strength and loving our neighbor. I mean really loving our neighbor. Instead, too many Catholics experience of church is superficial. They don’t even know the person’s name in the pew next to them and they don’t care to know. They only care about fulfilling their Sunday obligation, and the priest better not do anything off the cuff during Mass or he is heretical. Why does this Pope bother people? He is preaching the Gospel at all times and challenging people to actually live the gospel instead of banging people over the head with the rules. People need conversion. When people are converted, they will want to follow the rules. We need to be connected to Christ so that when people meet us, they meet Jesus. He converts people. Look at the life of St John Vianney. He worked on his own holiness first and foremost. Thus, Jesus exuded out of him whenever he preached and talked with people. This is the Pope’s message – over and over again.

Mark
Mark
Wednesday, October 23, AD 2013 3:40pm

The practice of the faith without love is ideology. People can find ideology anywhere they go. Our country is full of ideologies. People need Jesus. They don’t need the practice of the faith without Jesus. I find too many Catholics practicing the faith without Jesus.

For example, standing in church more worried about the rubrics of the Mass than their own soul or the soul of their neighbor. Standing in judgment.

I have worked for the church for 23 years. I have had Catholics tell me “get those kids in church”. Why would they want to go? Everyone looks as if they are having physical problems. No one smiles. We are touching heaven and no one smiles? Teens can walk into church and no one even talks to them or cares that they are there. No one knows their name. No one knows their story. No one cares to know their story.

The experience of 90% of Catholics coming to Mass on a weekend is superficial at best. How do I know? I talk with them. I ask them questions. I find out their story.

If Jesus is truly the center of our lives, we can’t help but reach out to those around us and share in the awesome and powerful relationship of God. It isn’t just about love love love love. It is about a God who is love and most Catholics don’t even know Him. They don’t know the first thing about the sacred liturgy. They don’t know the first thing about offering up a Mass.

St John Vianney didn’t just practice the faith. He lived it. He had an intimate personal relationship with Jesus. It was Jesus who inspired him. His prayer life was an intimate encounter with the Savior first and foremost. Then, he was able to lead his people into a deeper relationship.

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Thursday, October 24, AD 2013 12:12am

True story: Shortly after my wife and I moved to a city in Michigan that shall remain nameless, we (she more than me, as my outlook was way less Catholic then than now, and I’m still not Catholic) were looking for a Parish to join. We walk in and run right into the Walmart greeters Don describes hey, welcome to our Church, glad to have you! Would you like to carry the wine and the water up to the altar before the start of communion? (something like that, it was more than fifteen years ago). “umm, I’m not Catholic.” Oh that’s not important. (again something like that).

Long story short, we did it because we couldn’t think of a graceful way out of it, but neither of us felt comfortable about it, and I was really uncomfortable with it. Needless to say, we didn’t join that parish.

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Thursday, October 24, AD 2013 8:37am

Most New Evangelization effort appears to be focused on better catechization of people who are already Catholic.

That might not be such a bad idea:

Raised a Roman Catholic everything they said in church sounded great, because I was told as long as I was a member of the RCC I was going to heaven. If I sinned I could meet with the priest who I was to call Father and confess my sins and he could forgive them, weekly, and I could go back out and commit the same sins knowing with a ten minute appointment with Father priest all would be forgiven…AGAIN! If I committed too many sins and died without being forgiven by the priest I may not go directly to heaven, but a place called Purgatory. What is their NOT to like about a religion like that? Unfortunately once I started actually reading God’s Word I soon discovered that what the RCC doctrine (don’t trust me, go to their own Website and read what THEY state their doctrine is) states is not the truth. God’s Word is the truth and this book was excellent for anyone wanting to see what the RCC doctrine teaches and compare it to God’s Word. Must reading for anyone wanting to witness to loved ones still caught in deceptive RCC false doctrine so they may be saved. Two key verses from God’s Word I show to my Catholic family are Hebrews 9:27….”And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment. There are NO SECOND CHANCES, there is no Purgatory, it was invented by the RCC in the late 500’s to generate money for the church and give people a false hope that heir loved one’s who died without being Born Again could be prayed into heaven and their sins could be removed by their WORKS and prayers (and MONEY) from people on earth……and Ephesians 2…”for by GRACE you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourself; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.”

Granted, one can claim anything on the internet, and I’m not saying this guy is any way typical, but it seems to me one would be better at sharing one’s Catholic faith with others if one knew why he believed what he believed, and why he didn’t believe something else.

Mark
Mark
Thursday, October 24, AD 2013 8:56pm

Let’s look at St John Vianney:

“How did he do it?
1) the conversion of his own life as a priest;
2) manifesting an approachable and available demeanor;
3) prayer and ascetical living;
4) channeling initial energy into those families already faithful;
5) giving special attention to the liturgy, preaching and catechesis;
6) addressing problems at their roots and not in their symptoms;
7) planting good habits of prayer and the works of mercy; and
8) doing it all with a strong priestly identity.” From Fr. John Cihak, S.T.D.

He wasn’t ‘a Walmart greeter”. He was trying to live an authentic Catholic life while reaching out to the people in a real way. Getting to know their stories. Getting to know them in a deeper way. This isn’t ‘Walmart greeting” stuff. Every Catholic is called to live out the same things that St John Vianney did. EVERY Catholic. Priest, Lay. Religious. EVERY Catholic. We were all baptized priest, prophet and king. This is the stuff that Pope Francis is talking about. Yes, he is not a theologian like Benedict. Yes, he is not a philosopher like JPII. He is a religious priest who became bishop and now Pope. He is talking in language that everyone can understand and he is hitting home because some people are having their consciences tugged. They are uncomfortable. They are lazy Catholics who think by praying the rosary and going to Mass every week (maybe in latin) that they (Like the protestants) have a free ticket to heaven because they are pious. Well, you only have to read the end of Matthew 25 to realize that it takes more than pious prayers to get to heaven. It takes loving your neighbor in a real way not some polite smile on Sunday or on the subway but real love and care which takes sweat and time. The Pope is trying his best to get everyone off of their backside and challenging us to get to work.

Mary De Voe
Thursday, October 24, AD 2013 9:11pm

If I may loosely quote from Thomas More to Howard about taking the oath of Supremacy: If you do your conscience and you die and go to heaven and I do not do my conscience and I die and go to hell, will you accompany me for fellowship?”

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