Krugman's Foundation
This Newsweek article about Nobel Prize-winning economist and NY Times columnist Paul Krugman contained an interesting biographical detail:
Krugman says he found himself in the science fiction of Isaac Asimov, especially the “Foundation” series—”It was nerds saving civilization, quants who had a theory of society, people writing equations on a blackboard, saying, ‘See, unless you follow this formula, the empire will fail and be followed by a thousand years of barbarism’.”
His Yale was “not George Bush’s Yale,” he says—no boola-boola, no frats or secret societies, rather “drinking coffee in the Economics Department lounge.” Social science, he says, offered the promise of what he dreamed of in science fiction—”the beauty of pushing a button to solve problems. Sometimes there really are simple solutions: you really can have a grand idea.”
This struck me because I read Asimov’s original three foundation novels several times when I was in high school, yet the one thing that always really bothered me about the books was the idea that Hari Seldon and his psychohistorians could calculate out with precision everything that would happen for centuries. And even granted this determinist vision, it bothered me even more that the one great unpredictable factor was the character named The Mule, whom Seldon’s equations could not predict the actions of because the Mule was a mutant and thus inherently a creature of randomness rather than predictability. The absurd premise and the absurd exception to it gnawed at me, though the great virtue of the books is that they are among the small number of science fiction books with the sort of grant historical sweep which a devotee of history cannot help but enjoy.
It’s interesting to me that it was precisely the element of Foundation which I always disliked which attracted Krugman. And perhaps allows me to claim that my political aversion to the idea of the centralized technocratic view of politics is a philosophy that runs fairly deep.
6 Responses to Krugman's Foundation
Subscribe by email!
Vatican Endorsed & Imprimatur
Recent Posts
- The Old Issue and Our Issue
- Margeaux’s Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
- Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter the Movie!
- Catholic Vote Beclowns Itself for Romney
- See You In Court Mr. Obama
- Liberalism & Natural Law: A Response
- Is the American press anti-Catholic?
- Georgetown: the Anti-Catholic Catholic University
- Pope Leo The Great on the Ascension
- Musical Offering
- O Say Can You See?
- A Blogger’s Revenge
- What Radical Gays Really Want – And Will Never, Ever Have
- Sad Joe
- Never Get The Susan B. Anthony List Mad At You!
Recent Comments
- Mandy P. commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(26 minutes ago) - Karl commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(1 hours ago) - Stacy Trasancos commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(2 hours ago) - Pinky commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(2 hours ago) - Mandy P. commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(2 hours ago) - Dale Price commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(3 hours ago) - Doc Kimble commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(3 hours ago) - Art Deco commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(4 hours ago) - MB commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(4 hours ago) - Dale Price commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(5 hours ago) - Mary@42 commented on See You In Court Mr. Obama
(6 hours ago) - Bonchamps commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(6 hours ago) - Art Deco commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(6 hours ago) - Phillip commented on Catholic Vote Beclowns Itself for Romney
(7 hours ago) - Donald R. McClarey commented on Margeaux's Stand: Catholic Teen Defends Her Right to Attend Mass
(7 hours ago) - Mary@42 commented on Pope Leo The Great on the Ascension
(8 hours ago) - Dale Price commented on Catholic Vote Beclowns Itself for Romney
(1 days ago)
Visitors to our website
Archives
- May 2012 (70)
- April 2012 (99)
- March 2012 (107)
- February 2012 (113)
- January 2012 (102)
- December 2011 (85)
- November 2011 (81)
- October 2011 (82)
- September 2011 (80)
- August 2011 (78)
- July 2011 (65)
- June 2011 (83)
- May 2011 (94)
- April 2011 (84)
- March 2011 (98)
- February 2011 (87)
- January 2011 (90)
- December 2010 (91)
- November 2010 (106)
- October 2010 (102)
- September 2010 (101)
- August 2010 (89)
- July 2010 (106)
- June 2010 (136)
- May 2010 (112)
- April 2010 (131)
- March 2010 (55)
- February 2010 (98)
- January 2010 (114)
- December 2009 (105)
- November 2009 (123)
- October 2009 (102)
- September 2009 (116)
- August 2009 (110)
- July 2009 (109)
- June 2009 (102)
- May 2009 (46)
- April 2009 (126)
- March 2009 (104)
- February 2009 (90)
- January 2009 (87)
- December 2008 (76)
- November 2008 (126)
- October 2008 (103)
Catholic and Infertile
Catholic Arts & Beauty
Catholic Blogroll
- A Catholic Mom in Hawaii
- Against The Grain
- An Examined Life
- and sometimes tea
- Biblical Evidence for Cthlcsm
- Bonfire of the Vanities
- Cahiers Péguy
- Catholatarian
- Catholic Light
- Catholic Phoenix
- Catholic Translations
- Coffee and Canticles
- Conversion Diary
- CVSTOS FIDEI
- Disputations
- Fidelity to the Word
- Head Noises
- la nouvelle théologie
- Mary Meets Dolly
- Over the Rhine and into the Tiber
- Per Christum
- Pro Ecclesia
- Riparians at the Gate
- Sacramentum Vitae
- SoCon or Bust
- The Catholic Comedy
- The Catholic Key Blog
- The Divine Life
- The Minor Premise
- This Cross I Embrace
- Video Meliora
- Vivificat!
- Whosoever Desires
Catholic Economics Links
Catholic Environmental Links
Catholic Film & TV Production
Catholic Forums
Catholic Health Care Links
Catholic Law Links
Catholic Music
Catholic Mysticism
Catholic Newpapers
Catholic Pro-Marriage Links
Catholic Punditry
- American Papist
- Catholatarian
- Catholic and Enjoying It!
- Catholic Fire
- Creative Minority Report
- Crisis Magazine
- CVSTOS FIDEI
- Damian Thompson
- DarwinCatholic
- Dyspeptic Mutterings
- Father John Zuhlsdorf
- George Weigel
- Journeys in Alterity
- Lair of the Catholic Cavemen
- National Catholic Register
- Opinionated Catholic
- Pro Ecclesia
- RealCatholicTV.com
- Standing on My Head
- Ten Reasons
- The Catholic Thing
- The Pertinacious Papist
- ThePulp.it
- Thoughts of a Regular Guy
Catholic Radio
Catholic Religious Orders
Catholic Resources
- African-American Outreach
- Biblical Evidence for Catholicism
- Black Catholic History
- Byzantine Cthlc Church (US)
- Catechism (CCC)
- Catholic Encyclopedia
- Catholic Hierarchy
- Catholic Latin Mass
- Catholic Leadership Institute
- Catholic Search Engine
- Catholic Theology Resources
- Catholic Translations
- Compendium of the CCC
- Early Christian Writings
- flockNote
- Mass Times
- National Cthlc AIDS Network
- Natl Black Cthlc Congress
- Natural Procreative Tchnlgy
- Papal Encyclicals
- Pope Benedict XVI Fan Club
- Pope John Paul II Writings
- QuoteCatholic
- Sancta Missa
- Sonitus Sanctus
- Universalis
- USCCB
- Vatican: English Site
- Vatican: Latin Site
Catholic Social Justice Links
Catholic SSA Links
Catholic TV Links
Catholic Young Adult
Catholic Youth Links
Orthodox Blogroll
Other Christian Blogs
Other Christian Resources
Secular Websites
- Advocates for Homeschooling – HSLDA
- Almost Chosen People
- American Cancer Society
- American Conservative
- American Education Reform
- American Life League
- American Red Cross
- Americans for Fair Tax
- Americans United for Life
- Amrcn Conservative Union
- Amrcn Health Care Reform
- Apostolate of Roman Catholic Homeschoolers – A.R.C.H.
- Asian Conservatives
- Athens and Jerusalem
- Autism Society of America
- Big Government
- Big Hollywood
- Black Genocide
- Blue Dog Democrats
- Breast Cancer Prevention Inst
- Breitbart
- C-SPAN
- Care Net Pro Life Clinics
- Citizens for Term Limits
- Coaltn on Abort/Brst Cncr
- Concerned Women/America
- Conservatives/Patients Rts
- Consistent Life
- Defend Marriage
- Dem Congrsnl Campaign Cte
- Dem Lgsltv Campaign Cte
- Dem Senatrl Campaign Cmte
- Democratic Gov Assoc
- Democratic Ldrshp Council
- Democratic Natl Convention
- Democratic Party
- Democrats for Life
- Dems for Education Reform
- Economic Policy Institute
- Energy Independence Now
- Face AIDS
- Fair Economy
- Faithful Democrats
- Fathers for Good
- Fathers for Life
- Feminists for Life
- GayPatriot
- Go Green Initiative
- GOProud
- Health Care/Homeless
- House Democrats
- Invisible Children
- Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles
- Make Poverty History
- Mediaite
- Mercy Corps
- Murder Vctms Fams/Rcncltn
- National Black Pro Life Union
- National Right to Life
- National Right to Work
- Natl Rep Cngrssnl Cte
- Natl Rep Senatorial Cmte
- NC/Abolish Death Penalty
- NewsBusters
- Nurses for Life
- Pave the Way Foundation
- PeaceCorps
- Physicians for Life
- Politico
- Poverty.com
- Pro-Life America
- Project 21
- Project Vote Smart
- Pure Love Club
- Raging Elephants
- RealClearBooks
- RealClearMarkets
- RealClearPolitics
- RealClearWorld
- reason.tv
- Redeem The Vote
- Rep State Leadership Cmte
- Repub for Envmntl Protec…
- Republican Gov Assoc
- Republican Jewish Coalition
- Republican Ldshp Cncl
- Republican Natl Convention
- Republican Party
- Repubs for Single Payer
- Ross Douthat
- Save Darfur
- SBA List
- Senate Democrats
- Stand Firm
- Stop Human Trafficking
- Suggest Ideas
- Suicide Prevention
- The Art of Manliness
- The Buck Stops Here
- The Daily Caller
- The Medievalist
- The Other McCain
- The Polycarp Research Inst.
- The White House
- US House of Representatives
- US Senate
- What’s Wrong With the World
- Women in Congress
Tag Cloud
TAC works best with these browsers:


I remember finding this aspect of the Foundation series ridiculous as well (in fact, it was one of the main reasons I didn’t read beyond the first book).
It’s probably not a coincidence that the first Foundation stories were written just as the Socialist Calculation Debate was winding down. A lot of economists back then really did believe that they could do something kind of like what Seldon did, if only they had enough computing power.
I read the Foundation series, the original trilogy, in High School back in the seventies. I enjoyed the broad sweep of History in the books, but I found prediction of History via math preposterous in the extreme. Purportedly Asimov was inspired by Gibbon’s Decline and Fall, a book I have devoured footnotes, the best part, and all. Gibbon is the best bad historian of all time in my opionion. His style is a take it or leave it affair: I take it and love it. His erudition for his time was immense. His history however was his biases against religion and “barbarism” writ into a fairly mechanistic formula that does injustice to the actual facts.
I also read the Foundation trilogy and the two that followed after a long hiatus and I enjoyed them all (thought the original 3 were the best).
Reading about the Mule and how Hari Seldon mathematically calculated the demise of the Galactic Empire with the fall of Trantor mesmerized me as a high school student.
As far as Gibbon, I just started reading the Rise and Fall recently and it’s good so far. Though I’m biased towards Warren Carroll (just finished reading the Last Crusade… magnificent)!
Tito, if you like The Last Crusade, you should try reading Jose Maria Gironella’s trilogy on the Spanish Civil War: Cypresses Believe in God; One Million Dead and Peace After War. Gironella fought on the side of the Nationalist’s in the Spanish Civil War, but his novels are remarkably even-handed and give a view from the inside of the war on the ground level among ordinary people. His books are suffused with a strong love of Catholicism and of Spain.
Donald,
Thanks! I am simply enthralled with the Spanish Civil War and I’m wary of getting anti-Christian leftist authored history books.
You have just made my next book purchasing decision on Amazon!
Pingback: Paul Krugman — economic crank | Taking Hayek Seriously