"Tradition dies a slow death, sometimes a bloody death" says McCarrick protégé Cardinal Gregory with creepy relish, justifying his cruel ban on the Latin Mass. https://t.co/HaRJI29RXJ
— Damian Thompson (@holysmoke) December 8, 2023
What does he have in mind? Whistle up BLM thugs to torch traditional masses in Washington DC.? This bozo is a hate filled Leftist masquerading as a Cardinal.
So much energy in trying to control the faithful and how they pray and worship. Imagine if they put that same energy and motivation into cleaning up the filth and scandal…this is about control and power and ego and nothing else. They don’t care about souls.
Celebrating diversity? They keep using that word.
I notice he invokes Vatican II, yet doesnt admit to the Council’s direction for Mass to change organically. He doesnt explain why we needed a new rite. Odd that; most of the Church’s actions have some rationale. I also notice he doesnt discuss why he felt the traditional rite needed to be cut from 8 locations to 3. He simply did it.
Not exactly offering welcoming arms, Eminence.
I’m reminded that when Henry VIII instituted his own bloody overturning of Tradition, there was just one bishop in the entire kingdom who declined to ‘get with the times’. I suppose good bishops have ever been in short supply.
In the end, thugs like Francis and thronesniffers like Gregory cannot inspire nor persuade, so they have to use raw power to impose their will.
If they do, don’t bet on the BLM thugs.
He’s always come off as a Vicar of Bray type. Our bishops are repulsive, by and large.
Indeed it does, Cardinal Robespierre.
Celebrating diversity?
That didn’t last long in Sodom.
The pock marks from brimstone are real.
Ask neophyte archeologist Mr. White.
Some claim that his divine inspirations took him into large areas of sand mounds… unearthing Sodom. (?)
The round stone like balls found around the site ignite. Sulphur.
I don’t know if his claims are real.
Faith tells me Sodom was real.
Abominations, like the act of sodomy, are real abominations.
Organizations like Courage help.
Sin no more.
Ryan Wyatt.
Not White.
Just a monthly reminder of the hearings that just took place that showed the FBI was targeting the traditional Catholics
I’m sure there is no coincidence
I don’t know. I don’t like what the pope has done, but the cardinal is accurately describing it and implementing it. I can’t really shake my fist in anger at an obedient priest.
Also – The Franciscan Shrine in Washington DC is less than a mile from the Catholic University campus. It’s second only to the Basilica in terms of a grand setting for the Traditional Latin Mass. It’s said every Sunday at 9am. If he were looking to bury it, there are a lot of better ways he could do it.
I can’t really shake my fist in anger at an obedient priest.
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Fine. Leave it to people with some spirit.
” I can’t really shake my fist in anger at an obedient priest”
I wholeheartedly support and admire priests like +Burke and +Strickland who obediently accept their (unjust) treatment at the hands of their superiors.
But I have only contempt for lickspittles like +Gregory who must know that what they are doing is unjust, but they’re ‘just following orders’ because they wish to save their own skins.
Bishop Strickland was told directly to eliminate the celebration of the Extraordinary Form Mass in his diocese, and declined to obey that unjust directive because he could not as a bishop, “starve part of his flock”, as he put it. He knew what that refusal would cost him, and he did it anyway, for his flock. When his punishment was meted out, he accepted it obediently. That is how a true bishop behaves.
Cardinal Gregory, on the other hand, is perfectly fine with starving part of his flock to further his career and please his boss. He’s “just following orders”, however unjust they are to the Pew Meat of his diocese. He’s not an obedient priest, he’s a coward.
..and the shiniest angel turned out to be the bravest one of them all. The End.
Pinky, it’s bad enough that you constantly defend Gregory … But comparing clergy like Strickland and Burke to the devil is a new low for you.
I’m enjoying Gregory’s nickname as “The African Queen” – very suitable. 😂
please remove my surname from previous comment….it’s been a long day 🙃
My two cents…
Show me consistent increase in vocations to the religious life post 1962. Post Ordo.
You can’t.
Tradition dies a slow and bloody death?
Ha.
The Church is bleeding and dying with few exceptions… African numbers are exceptional.
What is dying out is the clergy who wish to rave about the greatest new mass. The highly successful Mass The hurry up and get em out to their football games Mass. Less reverence.
More man
Tradition is building back the Holy Catholic Church.
The unacknowledged truth is that this man in all probability owes his position to his race. Perhaps this accounts for his obsession with “diversity “. It matters not to me whether all Bishops are white, black, or something else. We have only the right to expect our Church’s leaders to hold and teach the Catholic Faith, an expectation that is too often not met.
The unacknowledged truth is that this man in all probability owes his position to his race.
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No. He owes his position to being a company man.
Philip, even in (subsaharan) Africa, the numbers of Catholics and vocations are only growing at the same rate as the growth in overall population. Before the 1960s they were growing significantly faster.
Meanwhile those protestant sects which take a hard line on moral issues are growing faster than the overall population.
In North Africa, the Catholic population and numbers of vocations have shrunk significantly since 1962.
From the Vatican statistics, 2014 through 2018, the Anericas are in decline and Africa on the increase in regards to vocations.
https://www.fides.org/en/news/69998-VATICAN_World_Day_of_Prayer_for_Vocations_increases_in_Africa_and_Asia
Philip, even in (subsaharan) Africa, the numbers of Catholics and vocations are only growing at the same rate as the growth in overall population. Before the 1960s they were growing significantly faster. – Peter y
My misconception of African vocations booming was not soundly rooted in statistics. My observations were based upon the new mission field, America. We have excellent Nigerian priests that are helping us fill the voids due to our aging clergy, attrition. Four, in our diocese currently.
Thanks be to God for them.
“Tradition dies a bloody death,” sayeth the man with a dripping blade.
The Latin Church’s mania for liturgical unanimity is one of its least appealing features. And it’s undercut by the fact that, unlike the Tridentine, the NO is analogous to a priestly “Choose Your Own Adventure” which includes making the venerable Roman Canon optional. And boy, is it ever.
You can have any kind of Mass you want–so long as it does not look or sound anything like what proceeded it.
Talk about death and blood reminds me of Cain and Abel. The story of Cain and Abel was about worship practices. Despite God engaging in encounter and accompaniment, Cain went off and killed Abel. It ‘s interesting that when Abel’s offering was described it included the fat portions. Fat portions were in dispute in the fall of the House of Eli in 1 Samuel 2. In Leviticus 3:16 it is stated that all the fat is the Lord’s.
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Between the firstlings and the fat portions Abel was giving God his best. There is little elaboration of the kind of offering that Cain presented to suggest that there was anything special about it. Cain being a tiller of the soil might symbolize worldly attachments having a negative influence on Cain’s worship by diverting his attention away from God. Cain’s pained reaction from being driven from the ground would support this conclusion.