Waving Degrees

As degrees become more and more worthless due to the decay of educational standards, the more fiercely do some people cling to them in order to separate themselves from the hoi polloi.

If we could only earn degrees in common sense and actually have that valuable attribute at the end of our studies.

The idea that parents should be “vetted” is the sign of someone who should have nothing to do with kids professionally.

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Don L
Don L
Thursday, February 23, AD 2023 3:21am

True, certainly, but some professions require obtaining one in order to maintain eligibility to practice. It’s a big comprehensive machine out there. Back in the late fifties and early sixties many of us challenged our professors when they started with the woke edudrival.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Thursday, February 23, AD 2023 6:11am

BS = Bull Sh!+

MS = More Sh!+

Ph.D. = Piled Higher and Deeper

Case iin point. After Enron!!!! the public accounting powers that be decreed that in addition to whatever number of credits one needed for a BS, one would need 30+ more in any subject. Complete BS. So, when my son was in U. in senior year he could have signed on for an MBA – he didn’t.

IMO. If so-called client capture was the problem, easy peazy solution either rotate through the firms list [was the Big eight, now the Big three or Four] on three or five year terms or have the SEC draw lots each year for the audit firm.

At least since 1913 when they spawned the Federal Reserve and Income Tax, common sense has been an uncommon virtue.

CAG
CAG
Thursday, February 23, AD 2023 6:17am

“edudrival” !!!

I like it! 😀

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, February 23, AD 2023 8:07am

They’re not scams per se, but indicative of some of the pathologies in higher education. The injury to the student is typically in insisting on a baccalaureate degree to enter an occupational school. This injury is done not only to those entering master’s programs, but to those entering first-professional degree programs and some research degree programs as well. In other cases, it indicates a decision not made while an undergraduate or a change in direction. At research universities, the master’s is commonly awarded to people who leave research degree programs. That’s not a scam, just embarrassing. It’s a scam if you’re ejected from the program for ignoble reasons. (See Paul Greenberg’s account of him being bounced by the History department at Columbia University). It gets to be a scam when the content of the degree is sh!te, and this is a feature of credentialing for public employment. The thing is, the baccalaureate degrees in these subjects are also bad; it’s just that political lobbying can add an additional layer of cost.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, February 23, AD 2023 8:39am

IMO, we’d be better off as a society if community colleges were re-organized as federations of trade schools. Any academic auxilliary thereto would consist of instruction in subjects which were symbiotic with particular trade programs (math most commonly). State colleges, bar honors colleges, could also be reconstituted as federations of occupational schools. The academic faculty could be assigned to preparatory institutes, which would offer short certificate programs as one of the screens used by the occupational schools and also places where an applicant could fill in spot gaps in his background. The certificate programs might average 25 credits, with the shortest 0 credits and the longest 70 credits. The occupational schools might offer programs as brief as 12 credits of classroom study appended to internship and apprenticeship placements and as long as 60 credits followed by internships, clerkships, or residencies, with a 48 credit calendar year program the mode. Colleges, whether stand-alone or university components, might preoccupy themselves with the academic arts and sciences, music, and theology and have one, two, and three year programs where you study a single subject. The schools for the fancy professions (medicine, peri-medical treating professions, engineering, law, veterinary medicine, and arguably, clinical psychology) could be stand alones or university components. Research degrees might be had in research centers housed in the universities.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, February 23, AD 2023 8:41am

At least since 1913 when they spawned the Federal Reserve and Income Tax, common sense has been an uncommon virtue.

A gold standard isn’t going to do American education or American business a bloody bit of good.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Thursday, February 23, AD 2023 10:06am

Pacem, Art. I love you.

I didn’t mention gold.

WK Aiken
WK Aiken
Thursday, February 23, AD 2023 2:33pm

So, how many years did she study for that Masters of Whatever? And how many days in a row was she in class or doing scholarly research 24/7?

No matter the answers to those questions, they will not add up to the same amount of time parents spend raising their children even before they start school. The fact that this comparison escaped her is proof enough of her vapidity.

G. Poulin
G. Poulin
Friday, February 24, AD 2023 6:34am

If you think that the guys with Masters degrees are dumb, you should see the guys who wave their Theology degrees around. Insufferable asses.

Frank
Frank
Friday, February 24, AD 2023 7:31am

Agreed, G Poulin. And let’s add one more layer of phony: guys who wave their Theology degrees around, labeling themselves as “Church historians”, while ignoring or denigrating anything that happened before 1965. I’m looking at you, Professor Maximum Beans. 🤦🏻‍♂️

CAG
CAG
Friday, February 24, AD 2023 7:54am

I agree with both of you, G Poullin and Frank. It seems to me that many people with theology degrees walk out of school with the same whack-a-doodle theologies that they had going in, and simply wanted letters after their names to lend credence to them.

Frank
Frank
Friday, February 24, AD 2023 9:36am

Indeed, CAG. It all reminds me of the saying “War is too important to be left to the generals.” (Att: G. Clemenceau) Here it would be “Faith is too important to be left to theologians.” In Aquinas’ day, theology was regarded as the highest of the Sciences. (Then understood to mean simply “field of knowledge.”) How low it has sunk today!

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