Pity that the Pope of the Catholic Church doesn’t treat Catholics as well as he treats abortionists, Communists and Leftists. Heckuva job Conclave of 2013, heckuva job.
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- Donald R. McClarey
Donald R. McClarey
Cradle Catholic. Active in the pro-life movement since 1973. Father of three, one in Heaven, and happily married for 43 years. Small town lawyer and amateur historian. Former president of the board of directors of the local crisis pregnancy center for a decade.
Rigidity in Synodailty right before our very eye’s. Who would have ever thunk it?
To Pope Francis;
Is this the Father’s will?
He might want to ponder the words to St. Peter from Jesus when Peter refused to listen to Jesus; Get behind me Satan.
Prayers for his conversion continuing.
The Catholic Church will survive.
Angry old men who despise the Traditional Latin Mass will one day be at peace. Let’s pray for that as well.
“Angry old men who despise the Traditional Latin Mass…”
It is beyond my comprehension as to how “any” Catholic — never mind a “Holy Father”– could ever despise any form of legitimate worship of our Lord–never mind one that has been piously revered for centuries and has saved many a poor soul.
It has been said here and elsewhere that one must know Betgoglio’s past in Argentina, and Argentina’s history, to understand Bergoglio.
Argentina is a nation of great resources and a populace that is, to put it bluntly, breathrakingly stupid. Argentina ought to be a wealthy nation, but it is poor and corrupt. Argentina produces some great meat and soccer players, and liittle else of note.
Argentina has a reputation of hating the US. Bergoglio buys into this. See the difference in how the German and American bishops are treated.
He hates the USA, he hates the Latin Mass, he hates people attracted to it and he hates anything pre Vatican II. There you have it.
Don L.
What if his anger is the failure of all he hoped for when V2 was hijack by the sorts who thought their reforms would change the face of the Catholic Church forever.
Yet, in reality, they see the TLM and it’s popularity as a nail in the coffin that they lie in. A revival is afoot in many rural areas of the State’s, however it isn’t what the 60’s generation of clerics wanted to see..not a revival founded upon traditionalism. My guess is that expected a growth in attendance based upon their work to remove all that was old. Didn’t happen ofcourse.
This is all a speculation on my part.
Prayers for the angry.
Prayers for the Church.
Great news here at our Traditional parish. Another altar server has been green lighted to join the seminary.
Young man. David W.
His going away party was on August 14th. Memorial of St. Maximilian Kolbe. We are so very proud of him.
In the end…
Love does win.
Anger and bitterness looses out.
He hates the USA, he hates the Latin Mass, he hates people attracted to it and he hates anything pre Vatican II. There you have it.
A good summary PF. Too many papal observers have looked for complexity where there is none,
Pope Frankie again trying to saw off the Branch he’s standing on….. not going to happen.. but boy does he try.
I dare say the problem may be that the guy was a good investigator of abuse cases. Pope Bergoglio talks the occasional good game about being anti-abuse.
But as he fills the episcopate with his toadies, being sternly-effective with pervert bishops will be at cross-purposes with turning Catholicism into an agreeable life coach and spiritual opiate dispenser for the oligarchy.
Fr. Schroeder was fired pour encourager les autres, evidently. If this story is true, it means that the career of anyone who’s ever shown the least friendliness towards the Extraordinary Form now has a target on their back.
I wonder if the person who ratted out Fr. Schroeder to Francis is the man appointed in his staid? Is that what it’s like in Francis’ Vatican now?
We’ve heard many stories of players in this pontificate who’ve been kept on despite all sorts of sexual, financial and doctrinal… irregularities. Turns out the one sure way to destroy a man’s career in Francis’ Rome is to rat him out as someone who was decent to traditional Catholics.
Argentina ought to be a wealthy nation, but it is poor and corrupt. Argentina produces some great meat and soccer players, and liittle else of note.
Argentina is an upper middle income country, not a poor country. It was in the 1920s among the world’s most affluent countries, but has suffered three generations of slow growth consequent to persistently bad policy, so it has fallen behind in the rankings and is now behind every part of Europe bar the Ukraine and some of the Balkan states, behind the peripheral Far East, behind Israel, and now falling behind more dynamic Latin American economies (which have also suffered long periods of relative decline).
Art, in other words, Argentina is a poor country.
On another note…I have made criticism of Rod Dreher, the ex-Catholic now Orthodox wrier for The American Conservative.
I looked up what Steve Skojec, the former publisher of 1 Peter 5, who no longer runs that site.
Skojec has, in his own words, become an agnostic. I remember the comboxes there were bitter and nasty, full of vitriol, bitterness and invective.
Given that my experiences with Internet Trads has been nauseating, I can’t fault him. Throw in the disaster that is this papacy – it has had a caustic effect on my own faith – and I can only wonder how many others have the same experience.
Then I think – did I really want to be a Traditional Catholic ( whatever that really means) or was I just being entertained by the trappings of the High Mass, or was I just running away from bad NO Masses ( of which there have been an abundance here).
I think Mr. Skojec got burned out and realized he can’t fix the world.
Sorry abouut my rantings. I get the end of the summer blues. The boys start school this week ninth grade and fifth grade. I’ll be 59 next month and I am tired of school. Parents of school age kids know that it isn’t just your kids in school. You are in it with them.
I must say I agree with Dale. I’m curious as to how many of these traditionalist priests, which are asked to forgo promotions or are sidelined, have in fact called out clergy who have some sexual abuse association…I wonder if there is a coincidence that these decent priests happen to also support TLM. I think there is something else going on here that has to do with more than just PF opposition to the Latin Mass…
“See the difference in how German and American bishops are treated.He hates the USA“
Ironic. Given the ideological mindset of most American bishops, particularly when it comes to their hostility toward any meaningful attempt to secure our southern border, they apparently hate America almost as much as Pope Francis does.
Art, in other words, Argentina is a poor country.
Bracketing out eight countries sitting on natural resource bonanzas (six of which rely heavily on guest workers) and bracketing out one whose figures incorporate some accounting anomalies, there are 54 countries in the world with a higher per capita product than has Argentina. Collectively, they account for about 20% of the world’s population. Argentina’s per capita product in real terms is similar to that of the United States in 1960. No clue why you fancy this makes Argentina a ‘poor country’.
Throw in the disaster that is this papacy – it has had a caustic effect on my own faith – and I can only wonder how many others have the same experience.
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Oh, I am right in there with you
John 6:68;
Douay-Rheims Bible
And Simon Peter answered him: Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
Come on brothers.
Buck up.
Francis is a speed bump.
Never entertain jumping ship.
Never.
Brothers and sisters, Please, I implore you, I need you at my side when we walk into the arena together singing the Salve Regina and O Salutaris, Guy, Texad
Penguins Fan:
I hear you, loud and clear. The trad subculture is in too many places its own worst enemy. I think it is an honest effort to live out the Faith in a more holistic, less Vatican-Too-centered presentism and lust for novelty that the ruling clique prefers.
But it is still fraught with problems, not least of which is that it, too, is shortsighted and takes too selective a view of the Tradition.
The Argentine ward boss has made me reconsider a lot of things, too. While I do not reject papal infallibility, I find the papal supremacy enshrined at Vatican I more difficult to accept by the day. It is ahistorical madness and a ridiculous overcompensation that reduces the Faith to whatever the reigning pontiff says it is, from appointing every bishop on the planet, to the unrestricted power to modify the catechism, to total control over the liturgical life of the Church. And all of this is grounded in the universal jurisdiction with which the office is vested.
I know for a fact that the fathers of Vatican I had clear limitations in mind at that council, but so did the right-minded leaders of the Roman Republic. Unfortunately, the former did not learn the lesson of their pagan political forebears: what the office theoretically allows you to do is more important than what history and custom tells you should do.
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