You See, Honey, There is This Thing Called Interest

Economic illiteracy and higher education is a depressing combination.  The only legitimate grievance student loan debtors have is their inability to file bankruptcy on these debts.  I would have bankruptcy available as an option fifteen years after graduation.

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Rudolph Harrier
Rudolph Harrier
Monday, August 15, AD 2022 9:37am

There’s a thing called usury. Student loans are probably the clearest example of usurious loans, seeing as how they inherently have no collateral and there is no essentially no risk of non-repayment (since they can’t be discharged through bankruptcy.) Indeed, the fact that they lack collateral is the usual reason given for why we cannot allow them to be discharged.

Of course there are reasons beyond usury to oppose student loans, such as the fact that they are based on fraudulent premises or that they exploit children who are not yet in a position to understand the impact of the loan.

If I had the authority, I would outlaw student loans in a heartbeat.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Monday, August 15, AD 2022 9:46am

Student loans are probably the clearest example of usurious loans,

They aren’t.

George Marshall
George Marshall
Monday, August 15, AD 2022 10:33am

They aren’t.

Substantive.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Monday, August 15, AD 2022 11:24am

Substantive.

No, curt. It’s a freely assumed investment in human capital. It’s a waste a great deal of the time, but a great many businesses fail and take down the owners’ investment with them. The interest rates on the loans are also concessionary.

George Marshall
George Marshall
Monday, August 15, AD 2022 1:21pm

In a sane society, we’d just tax the hell out of university endowments and start shuttering joke institutions that promote garbage racial and gender theories.

Tom Byrne
Tom Byrne
Monday, August 15, AD 2022 2:33pm

George:
We’d be better off if universities had to sign for student loans, using their own endowments as collateral. That way, if kids graduated with useless degrees, they lose money. Watch standards soar.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Monday, August 15, AD 2022 3:03pm

I think we’d be better off if we left the business of student loan origination to banks and finance companies, reduced the degree of protection for creditors, and prosecuted originators and their officials if they insisted on real interest rates in excess of 15%.

One thing we could do to assist youths is to reduce the role of higher education in sorting the labor market. In order to do that we could enact several pieces of federal legislation and work for co-ordinate legislation on the state level. The legislation would (1) require that the default mode for hiring and promotion in the federal civil service is the timely paper and pencil examination and (2) strip federal courts of any franchise to second guess examiners commissions and (3) require multi-state natural monopolies to make use of a similar system and (4) require multi-state corporations to produce an audited statement of the stock and flow demographics of their enterprise, (5) define certain activities in workplace settings in multi-state enterprises as tortious with liability for discrete officials as a matter of course and for enterprises in select circumstances; the activities in question would be acts which mapped to common crimes of extortion and harassment, and (6) required collective bargaining agreements be stripped of references to race or proxies for race, but (7) allowed companies to hire, promote, demote, and fire according to their lights.

Another thing we could do would be to require inter-state agreements for the provision of higher education services have certain features, among them that they be for the provision of credentials of the following sort: for academic subjects, theology, and music, the menu of degrees would be for 1, 2, 3, or 4 academic years of instruction and dissertation supervision. For occupational subjects, it would be for a certificate of < 30 credits, 1 academic year, 1 calendar year, and 2 calendar years as a rule. For a selection of occupational schools, programs in excess of 60 credits would be permitted (mostly in the medical realm). For some, research degrees would be permitted. Preparatory certificates composed of academic, business, and technology courses could be imposed as conditions for admission to occupational schools, with the proviso that none could exceed 70 credits.

Just north of 20% of those enrolled in higher education are attending out of state, so this might get the ball rolling to replace the menu of associate’s, bachelor’s, and master’s degrees, with all the attendant padding.

Clinton
Clinton
Monday, August 15, AD 2022 8:26pm

It’s interesting that we hear exactly zero talk of government using taxpayer dollars to pay off student loans for trade schools. Is that because graduates of trade schools are not in our Brahmin caste, or because trade school graduates have the means to discharge their own debts?

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