I have been hard on the Uvalde cops, but no harder than they deserve. Tulsa cops gave a textbook example of how to respond to a mass shooting situation:
At 4:52 pm the first 911 call came in about a shooting at St. Francis. More calls were received within minutes including one that identified the 2nd floor of the Natalie building, a five story medical office building on the St. Francis campus, as the site of the shooting. Officers arrived at 4:56 pm and started heading up to the 2nd floor.
Officers were yelling “Tulsa police” as they advanced toward the shooter’s location. They heard one final gunshot which they believe was the shooter taking his own life. That was at 4:58 pm. Tulsa’s police chief didn’t say this, but this is a fairly common response from mass shooters, about 40% of whom kill themselves according to FBI resources. About a third of those suicides happen when they hear police arrive. It’s another reason police are trained to immediately head for the active shooter and confront them.
Go here to read the rest. Bravo! Well done!
Former Tuscon cop and SWAT team member Brandon Tatum has a different take on the Uvalde response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btfcVYIHIsI
Whereas the guy in Uvalde was in a direct gunfight with the cops, so the Tulsa guys won the coin toss. Two completely different situations. And not a single person mad at the Uvalde cops wants to be mad at the teacher that propped open the dang door that the shooter used to gain entry to the school.
@Greg, and everything he’s saying in that video has been what I have been saying. If you haven’t worn the uniform and been in those situations, or at least been trained in those situations, just need to sit down and keep your mouth shut. You want to criticize after the events with all of the “god-mode” after-the-fact information, fine. But you don’t get to call anyone a coward for it.
There is an entire list I could give for why the cops on perimeter did what they did, based on my own training and experience. But I won’t, because I refuse to put such things in print for some jerk shooter to take advantage of in the future.
Nobody wants to pay attention to the fact that until the news found out the shooter was a Latino cross-dresser that the media was all over the idea of another white shooter. As soon as they realized they couldn’t keep that narrative they switched to focusing on cop hate.
Also, recent interview with a guy that was actually there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYnZ-oG2rbA
Whereas the guy in Uvalde was in a direct gunfight with the cops, so the Tulsa guys won the coin toss.
No, the shooter in Uvalde won the coin toss by drawing a pack of cowardly cops who would not storm the classroom he was in while he killed kids, and the kids who survived initially bled out. Completely contemptible. In Tulsa within six minutes of the initial 9-11 call the cops were on site and closing in to engage the shooter.
Don, have you actually watched the video I posted and if so, where is is Tatum wrong? Tulsa is a major city with resources at their disposal to deal with something like this whereas Ulvalde is a podunk town with a police force of six.
Too long a video Greg; I haven’t had the time due to press of work at the law mines. The police department in Uvalde consists of forty officers, which includes a Swat Team. The school district in Uvalde has a separate police force with 6 officers.
Don, you might do well to watch it when you have the time. Tatum doesn’t strike me as the type to excuse cops who are cowards. His experience as a SWAT officer gives him some credibility to speak on this. He says the narrative people like Matt Walsh and others are running with us wrong and provides information that seems compelling.
I myself haven’t followed this all that much so I can’t really say. So, I’m especially loathe to call someone who has faced a situation like this that I haven’t faced a coward.
Plus, everything the media has been giving us for years has been complete B.S., especially where the police have been involved. Why assign any value to their narrative on this event? In light of the current reality vacuum, I think charity demands withholding judgment for the time being.
Don, you might do well to watch it when you have the time.
I am on vacation for the coming week, one reason why I was so busy during the work week just completed since I seem to pay for my vacations by working twice as hard just before them! I will make a point of watching the video.