Well, no verdict yesterday, so the jury will continue its deliberations today. Rumor says that the jury ended the day divided 10-2. People have been wondering how anyone can know that. Courthouses leak like sieves. Bailiffs often hear things and pass it on. I recall waiting for a verdict over twenty-four years ago. A bailiff came up and said that I didn’t have to worry about the verdict. I asked him why was that. He said that while he was escorting the jury they were all talking about how much they hated opposing counsel. His prediction came to pass.
A review of the motion for mistrial with prejudice filed by the defense:
A general review of yesterday:
Go here for a live feed today with lots of attorney commentary while we wait. Go here to take a gander at Kenosha County Eye, the blog most hated by the powers that be in Kenosha:
Update 1:
11:15 AM CT-Jurors have asked to view videos in evidence and the Judge is discussing how to do this. Five years ago I was involved in a case where the jury requested to view a video. This was done in court with the Judge, counsel, the Defendant and the jury present. After the jury viewed the video, they went back to the jury room and resumed their deliberations.
Update 2:
1:15 PM CT-Evidentiary battle about whether the State deliberately gave an unclear copy of the drone video to the defense. This trial is descending to Keystone Kops farce. That this is a homicide trial with the stakes of whether the Defendant spends most of the remainder of his life in prison, is beyond belief. A mistrial needs to be declared immediately.
Beyond disbarment, what penalties could the prosecution team face?
This matter of the defense being given an inferior, unclear version of video evidence when the prosecution knew it possessed— and sat on—a better HD version points to a conspiracy involving far more people than just a few sleazy lawyers in the prosecutor’s office. Someone produced the inferior version and made sure that was the one given to defense. And the original owners of the video had to have known that the non-HD version wasn’t the same as the one they’d originally given over to the state…
I hope that the state of Wisconsin has the will and the stomach to get to the bottom of this, because it seems likely to involve bigger fish than swim in little Kenosha.
Beyond disbarment, what penalties could the prosecution team face?
There are various criminal charges that could be filed depending of the gravity of the prosecutorial misconduct. They are unlikely to be charged, but they should be.
I like Kraus’s nickname in the Eye – Fatlock!- LOL!
I understand they sometimes do blab, but bailiffs are supposed to keep quiet. If the jury is 10-2 because two jurors are afraid of leftist goon squads, that’s something that he should share with the Judge alone.
It should not be getting to Jack Posobiec, and it’s a breach of his duty as an officer of the court if it did.
I completely agree Dale. Once again how the law should operate and how the law actually operates are two incongruent categories.
Prosecution is claiming that the video was “somehow” compressed without their knowledge before they gave it to the defense. Basically they are saying that technology is mysterious and if they’re too dumb to do use it properly they can’t be held accountable for their mistakes. Kraus has literally said that they could not have compressed a file even if they wanted to because it’s “technical wizardry.”
The argument doesn’t make any sense on actual technical merits, but I’m guessing that they’re banking on the judge being technologically illiterate.
Wow…. Kraus just claimed that when a file is downloaded by a PC it will automatically rename the file to explain why the defense’s file not only is compressed but also has a different name. Lies upon lies.
Judge is not buying it, but he’s being indecisive about how to proceed.
“A mistrial needs to be declared immediately.“
A mistrial with prejudice. Then Kyle can get on with the business of suing the hell out of the media for their despicable slandering of him.
When this jury failed to return a not guilty verdict on the first day, that is a strong indication that, for a number of jurors, evidence does not matter, or else they are intimidated by the lynch mob. They are unlikely to change. The best to hope for, a mistrial, hopefully with prejudice. If not and this kid is tried again, his first trial testimony will haunt his defense. His testimony was his lawyers decision, no matter the technicality . Expect riots regardless of the verdict. I speak with 48 years experience, and hope and pray I am wrong. Our entire justice system is on trial.
I was never overly confident in an acquittal, although justice and evidence loudly demands one. I hope I’m wrong though. You have to know that jurors know going in are aware that an acquittal would spark violence and endanger them by being doxed. They don’t even have to be in earshot of all the shouting going on outside to already be afraid. Plus, if we are to believe Robert Barnes, the defense was clueless with regard to jury selection. The defense is also looking grossly incompetent to even us non-lawyers. Furthermore, this judge is all bark and no bite. The look on Kyle’s face is the look of a young man who is scared shitless and rightly so.
I also think we ought not be too taken by the prosecutor’s incompetence. There is a method to the left’s madness with stuff like this. And I think it’s showing itself here.
After an acquittal I commented to a deputy Boy I was worried because you never know with a jury and he answered, If they like you they’ll do anything for you. 🥲
When this jury failed to return a not guilty verdict on the first day, that is a strong indication that, for a number of jurors, evidence does not matter, or else they are intimidated by the lynch mob. They are unlikely to change.
I have little doubt that evidence did not matter to the Chauvin jury. The way the odious judge structured jury selection, all facially impartial jurors were blocked from being seated; the prosecution was also able to stack the jury with blacks (the ratio of blacks to non-blacks was 4x the mean of Hennepin County) and eliminate all white males over the age of 35.
I haven’t a clue what’s actually going on, but if I were placing wagers, my bet would be that they’ve had a majority for acquittal right along and are attempting to persuade a pair of holdouts. I’ll also wager that the jury may be concerned about social violence and about they themselves being doxxed, but that the holdouts might have a similar disposition even if there were no such concerns at all. As for the holdouts, guessing that they’re female and have been at some point in their lives employed in education, social services, nursing, or child care.
The judge decided not to sequester the jury. I don’t think the defense filed a motion to change venue.
Outside influences contrary to the court’s instructions could be grounds for vacating a guilty verdict, in this case undue fear of mob justice. Chauvin has filed on appeal in Minnesota based on that and 13 other grounds.
What a spectacle. Prayers for them.
Now, we’re waiting to see if riots break out because of media lies about a trial from a riot caused by media lies.
Remember Nick Sandmann.
You can count on riots unless convicted on all charges, and possibly even then. That anyone should be tried in an atmosphere that exist in Kenosha is appalling. The lynch mob and its supporters compromise approximately one half of this nation. I do not believe they are open to rational discussion. Time to save what is left. How?
You can count on riots unless convicted on all charges, and possibly even then.
You can count on riots when the politicians insist the police stand down.
Thank God this only happens in blue hell holes. Stay away.
Twenty-First Century America: We’re waiting to see if riots break out because of media lies about a trial from a riot that media lies caused.
After seven years, Democrats and media are still lying about Ferguson, MO. Kruiser, “Democrats are allowed to lie about Ferguson with impunity. […] The New York Times or The Washington Post won’t be exhibiting any curiosity about this latest mendacious word barf from the always execrable Rep. Bush [whites sniped at her while rioting]. She could start telling stories about being attacked by a ship full of space alien invaders who all look like Donald Trump and there would be shrugs all around in the MSM.”
Their answer is “Violence is the answer!” And, “Make the World a better place. Shoot a white man in the face.”
Be advised.