When the Tsars ruled Russia and some cruel decree came down from Saint Petersburg, some simple people would say, “If only the Little Father knew!”. This habit endured during the purges under Stalin, when some simple Communists would say, “If only Stalin knew!’. We will not participate in such nonsense.
This current purge of the Traditional Mass in Europe and the US is almost certainly being done at the orders of Pope Leo, or with at least his approval. Our best hope is that the Pope is a fairly weak man, living blithely in a Vatican bubble, and that sufficient opposition will cause him to alter course. Leo is proceeding on a course which will likely end in a schism if he does not do so. Thus is the state of things under Pope Sockpuppet for Pope Francis.
The TLM will survive this purge.
In 1969 Ratzinger wrote about the future of the Church. A smaller church.
New saints will arise, as in the days of old, and the Ship will not sink. These storms are just that.
They give the impression that they will never cease but that’s only fear. The storms give way SON light. Warmth and clean breathable air refreshes the lungs as well as the spirit.
Hold Fast crew.
https://aleteia.org/2016/06/13/when-cardinal-joseph-ratzinger-predicted-the-future-of-the-church/
After having had two parish’s close from under us, we’ve found a reverent NO parish. (TLM is too far.) One with Perpetual Adoration, kneelers that are brought out for communion, with altar servers, paten plates, communion on the tongue by either a priest or deacon.
It’s a Miracle.
All I think of when I’m there is that some cruel bishop will shut it down. What’s happening to TLM is CRUELTY, plain and simple. “First they came for.. and I said nothing..” Make sure your Bishop knows this is CRUELTY.
The TLM will survive the purge because the Gestapo is staffed by old men. This is their last gasp at preserving their blessed reinvention of the Church in a modernist mode. The Arians, the Jansenists, all the other popular movements failed too.
As far as the Latin NO retaining the traditional things that “do not conflict with the missal,” I believe it is in Charlotte where many of those same things are not being allowed at the NO because it is believed or purported they conflict with (or at least are not specified in) the same missal.
The greatest difficulty with the “reverent” or “traditional” NO is that the nature of the missal of Paul VI entails that to have such things is entirely predicated on the will of the priest celebrating and/or the bishop allowing. In Knoxville (for now) you can have some of the “traditional” things in the NO because Missal of Paul VI, but cross the border into parts of NC and those same things are frowned upon or not allowed because Missal of Paul VI.
To be sure, all things being equal the traditional elements are superior and should be used, and sometimes you have to make the best of the situation you are in.
Dr. Kwasniewski has a great post about this: https://substack.com/home/post/p-176074290
On the ground level all of this creates so much pain and confusion and division, and it truly breaks my heart. I feel for those who have their TLM removed from them, and I fully understand the desire to have whatever they can get within the NO; I would certainly want the same if and when that is ever the situation for me. May God be with His Church and heal the deep wounds within.
David WS-
I too have suffered (and watched others suffer) at the hands of the bishops, often needlessly and seemingly wickedly.
I too have a safe harbor, today, and am aware that it is far less permanent than I would like.
However, I am making a determined effort to thank God for the good (and even the merely valid) Masses while they last. I also, quite plausibly, fear that it will be replaced with faithlessness and error, but I remind myself that a reverent Mass is a gift. I resolve to be grateful, instead of apprehensive, even when that resolve comes hard. And many times it does come hard.
I predict that a letter will be coming from Pope Leo that will cut TC to its knees.
The fallout from this attack, calling us Protestants, is going to force the hand of dealer.
I give it two weeks…..
…..but I’m not holding my breath.👀
No predictions here. The bishops strike me as analogous to the committees who award commissions to architects (especially to characters like Frank Gehry). People I don’t know motivated by what I cannot imagine. I refuse to give them a dime or a moment of my attention.
Don’t like Frank Gehry politics. But don’t mind his architectural work.
Too bad for him, being someone of Jewish heritage that his ego can’t acknowledge the good work done by Trump in Israel lately…oh, and wasn’t he suppose to move to France after the 2016 election? France not looking so attractive lately with all them anti-Jewish immigrants. Hmmm
But don’t mind his architectural work.
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I mind.
Oh my goodness that monstrosity is hideous!
I’m with Art on this one!
“I mind”
I’ve overseen the design of multi-million dollar commercial builders in my former career. And If you have ever had to manage a builder constructing a simple square dry wall, you would understand the feat it took for the team (designers, engineers, builder and tradespeople) to construct the shapes of the Guggenheim Bilbao to the specifications of Gehrys design. You’ve chosen a gem to disparage. Not to mention the people who put their heart and soul, blood sweat and tears into it. Well done Art 👏🏻
“Oh my goodness that monstrosity is hideous!”
As are some of your comments.
Some buildings can cause reflected sunlight to create heat concentrations.
In reference to heat concentrations caused by building products. “Colorbond” – a prefabricated painted steel in Australia commonly used in corrugated roofing is now used as a cladding system. As you can imagine Australia has a hot climate, and the cladding system at a particular commercial complex concentrated the heat of the colorbond cladding causing cracking in adjacent glass windows across the complex in one site I know of. That’s just an ordinary commercial complex. Yes designs can fail.
The Guggenheim Bilbao is clad in very thin Titanium Sheets. I’d imagine they would become hot to touch, but the choice of titanium was particularly clever as it is a resilient product that withstand corrosion. It also develops a nice patina over time without loosing its mirror quality. There are no screws or bolts across the patterned sheets. I read that they are connected via hooks. The climate inside is pretty well regulated and comfortable.
Before the opening of the building in 1997, the site of Guggenheim Bilbao was a dump along a dirty river. To Gehry’s credit he delivered the whole project on time and on budget of US$89mill using public funds. It now generates around 400mill Euro a year to the local economy. The “Bilbao” effect they called it. It’s been replicated but never successfully to that extent. A good investment with excellent returns. Because…it’s a beautiful building. Modernism can be beautiful if done right.