Civil War II

Col. Tanner: Maybe somebody just forgot what it was like.

Red Dawn screenplay (1983)

Let us hope that it doesn’t prove prophetic.  Our first Civil War was so terrible that I think it long immunized us from a second.  Unfortunately, today fewer people than in the past bother to study history.  If it does come those who live through it may end up envying the dead.

 

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Donald Link
Donald Link
Friday, December 15, AD 2023 10:10am

Civil wars come in several iterations. England’s “Glorious Revolution” was essentially bloodless as the English had no desire for a repeat of the War of the Roses or Cromwell’s insurrection. It did achieve the result of eliminating the last possibility of a Catholic monarch though, after four centuries, it is difficult to see that as an improvement in governance.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Friday, December 15, AD 2023 10:23am

Sr. Lucia of Fatima told Cardinal Carlo Caffarra that a decisive battle between the kingdom of Christ and Satan will be over marriage and the family.

Scary thought but one that could materialize is War amongst ourselves in what now is only a cold war of sorts… the cultural war morphing into full blown Civil War.

Abortion as healthcare is being rammed down the pipeline. Major News networks we’re hard at it last night. No consideration for the innocent child. Only the mother’s well being.

LGBTSOUP is boiling over.
A girl was being pressured to have to share a room with a boy who identifies as a girl in a recent school sponsored field trip.
Parents we’re on top of it asap. Mom was one of the chaperones and couldn’t believe the assignment.

……oh boy….

CAG
CAG
Friday, December 15, AD 2023 11:37am

Sr. Lucia of Fatima told Cardinal Carlo Caffarra that a decisive battle between the kingdom of Christ and Satan will be over marriage and the family.

On the topic of the deliberate destruction of marriage and the family, check out this scary item, Philip:

The Curious Case of the Purloined Precept – Crisis Magazine

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Friday, December 15, AD 2023 5:49pm

CAG…
thanks .. sort of… 😧
Deacon Toner spelled it out clearly;
“Anyone who is so ‘progressive’ as not to remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God; whoever remains in the teaching has the Father and the Son.” 😊

It doesn’t matter how many believe in a falsehood. Even if the percentage reached 99.9 error is still error. The culture warriors have gained many a sympathizer. This pontificate is so…… pastoral, that the concept of Hell itself would be erased from the top given enough time.

Praying for the Holy Catholic Church is essential.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Friday, December 15, AD 2023 6:43pm

From Cardinal Burke;

*They talk about a necessary paradigm shift or an ill-defined Synodal Way, which declares that all are welcome in the Church without making clear the conversion to Christ which is necessary to be a member of his mystical body,” he lamented.

Burke then pointed out that these members of the Church “forget that the king in the parable of the wedding feast, who had welcomed all, ‘the good and the bad,’ to the marriage feast for his son, when he saw ‘a man who had no wedding garment,’ had the man cast out from the banquet. Our Lord concludes the parable of the wedding feast with the admonition: ‘Many are called, but few are chosen.’”*

John Flaherty
John Flaherty
Saturday, December 16, AD 2023 1:16am

I have…considered that a second civil war…would make the first look tame. Where we had a North/South geographic split then, we’re all intermingled now.
Somewhat odd to pick California and Texas though. They don’t agree on much and Arizona and New Mexico stand between. Even basic comms would be…awkward. A Florida alliance seems involved too.
Given the appearance of the civilians and soldiers, and their respective comments…most likely it’d be about illegal immigration.
Scary thing: I can see this happening.
If enough people in southern Texas and southern Cal become fed up enough, and Floridians get mad about Cubans, ….

Elaine Krewer
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Saturday, December 16, AD 2023 6:47am

“a second civil war…would make the first look tame.”

I have long thought that any Civil War II would resemble, not the big battles between uniformed armies like Gettysburg, Antietam, the siege of Vicksburg or Sherman’s March to the Sea, as much as it would resemble the “war of 10,000 nasty little incidents” that occurred in Missouri and Kansas and in other border states. Continual clashes between bands of guerillas or “irregulars” and individuals or small groups of civilians. It could also resemble the Troubles in Northern Ireland in the 70s, 80s and 90s — periodic bombings, raids and assasinations that disrupt, but don’t completely halt, civic life in certain areas. I would not expect a uniformed army to come marching into town but I would expect to always have to have your “head on a swivel” and as one of my favorite bloggers, Sarah Hoyt, says, “keep your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark”.

Elaine Krewer
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Saturday, December 16, AD 2023 6:53am

I would also expect a lot of “Irish Democracy”, i.e., people in red areas simply ignoring the dictates of the federal or state governments and for the most part getting away with it since no one in those areas will be willing to enforce them. For example, note the 90+ sheriffs and State’s Attorneys (prosecutors) in Illinois who have already said they will not proactively enforce the state’s “assault weapons” ban or prosecute anyone solely for not having registered weapons that they legally possessed before the ban (which is still making its way through the courts and which only a tiny percentage of the populace legally able to own firearms has complied with).

CAM
CAM
Sunday, December 17, AD 2023 12:18pm

Writing of Civil War – in Arlington Cemetery The Reconciliation Monument, commonly known as the Confederate Monument, is to be torn down by 01 JAN 24.
The GOP wants it to stay and good for them because they understand the word “reconciliation”. Not sure that the GOP will be able to dissuade other members of Congress to let the memorial stand. All because of the Black Lives Matter summer is the excuse.

From the Arlington National Cememtery website –
“The Confederate Memorial offers an opportunity for visitors to reflect on the history and meanings of the Civil War, slavery, and the relationship between military service, citizenship and race in America. This memorial, along with the segregated United States Colored Troops graves in Section 27, invites us to understand how politics and culture have historically shaped how Americans have buried and commemorated the dead. Memorialization at a national cemetery became an important marker of citizenship — which, in the post-Reconstruction era, was granted to white Civil War veterans, Confederate or Union, but not to African American soldiers who had served their country. In such ways, the history of Arlington National Cemetery allows us to better understand the complex history of the United States.”

It also is a beautiful work of art. Paid for by Southern Women’s groups in ” in 1914, the Confederate Memorial was designed by noted American sculptor Moses Jacob Ezekiel, a Confederate veteran and the first Jewish graduate of Virginia Military Institute. The elaborately designed monument offers a nostalgic, mythologized vision of the Confederacy, including highly sanitized depictions of slavery. Standing on a 32-foot-tall pedestal, a bronze, classical female figure, crowned with olive leaves, represents the American South. She holds a laurel wreath, a plow stock and a pruning hook, with a Biblical inscription at her feet: “They have beat their swords into plough-shares and their spears into pruning hooks.” The statue stands on a pedestal with four cinerary urns, one for each year of the war, and is supported by a frieze with 14 shields, one for each of the 11 Confederate states and the border states of Maryland, Kentucky and Missouri. Thirty-two life-sized figures depict mythical gods alongside Southern soldiers and civilians.

So are they going to disinterre confederate graves in nantional cememteries?

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