My Pride Flag Too

Posted elsewhere.

My opinions are my own as a free citizen. I do not represent any government agency, public or private corporation, religious institution, etc.

When one is confronted at one’s place of employment with the display and promotion of abominable symbols for June Pride Month, sodomy, lesbianism and transgender sexual perversion, what should one do?

(1) Should one say nothing and collect one’s pay check?
(2) Or should one take a lesson from Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, and tell Nebuchadnezzar, “No, we shall NOT bow down and worship your false idol of gold!”

I have decided to do number (2). Fortunately I am still employed. Let’s see what happens tomorrow.

Now in the interest of complete disclosure, when I got out of the Navy back in the early 80s, I rented a house with a gay person because neither of us had enough money on our own. He had downstairs with his boyfriend, and I had upstairs with my girlfriend (when she came over to visit). We shared dinner together, and the bills, and the yard work. He was a best friend. But I didn’t agree with his sodomite life style and he didn’t agree with my Catholic religion (I was a new convert at the time). However, we had a policy: live and let live. He didn’t shove gay politics down my throat, and I didn’t shove my Catholic religion down his throat. Now why can’t our respective places of employment be like that? Sadly, safe spaces and respect for differences in beliefs apply only to the liberal progressive leftists, and NOT to conservative Christians.

Nevertheless, I for one will NOT tolerate my Faith being marginalized and minimized and trivialized with this Kulturkampf that the left is waging. Let us NOT go into the closet for godlessly immoral liberal progressive Democrats though they may yet shove us into a fiery furnace.

I agree with Art Deco, but…….

“You have a critical mass of homosexuals in an organization” –> actually, it’s liberals. The organization is based on the left coast and has always been openly “progressive” from the start. But there aren’t very many qualified and competent nuclear engineers on the left coast (which except for Columbia in Washington, Diablo Canyon in Californication and Palo Verde in Arizona has de-nuked itself). So as the company expanded, it recruited from the only available pool –> the south-east and mid-west where there are still many nuke plants. But most nuke professionals there are conservative. So now half the company is conservative and half liberal, just like America.

Now what you may not know is that in nuclear we have this thing called “Condition Reports,” abbreviated as CRs. It’s an NRC rule (part of 10 CFR 50 Appendix B) that nuke companies have to have a corrective action program. That means that anyone can identify any problem without fear of reprisal. Part of safety culture work environment. So an anonymous CR was written about Democrat leftist web sites posted on the company’s main web page more than several years ago. The web site links were removed. Then a few years after that there was an icon of a transgendered clenched fist with links to the usual leftist web sites. Another CR got written and then the offending symbol got removed. Now we have celebration of gay pride month. So several anonymous CRs got written. Those of us who are conservative don’t give a damn about who’s gay or who’s straight. Just do your freaking job. But it isn’t the gays who are doing this. I feel sorry for them, being pawns in liberal politics. It’s the liberal activists (who actually are mostly well-off white heterosexuals) in positions of authority and who think they are being open and tolerant and non-divisive and inclusive by pushing this $h1t on the rest of us. This is not going to end well.

Now I am going to say again for the record: no gay person should ever be harrassed or abused or marginalized or victimized. If I saw someone harrassing a gay guy, then I damn sure would speak up against that! Why does’t the same thing apply to those of us who are traditional Catholic Christians? Just take the damn June Pride Month icon and the rainbow symbols down. No one wants to know anyone else’s sexual preference or sex life. Keep that $h1t out of the freaking work place! Let’s do NUCLEAR, and NOT politics.

Is that too much to ask for?

@JMJ et alias: I want to make something very clear. I have lived and worked with gays all my adult life.

(1) One of the sonarmen on the old submarine (now decommissioned) was as gay as a lark. But he was a damn good sonarman – among the best – and when we pulled into port, he just wanted to do his thing. If that was drinking with us (we did a lot of drinking together), then fine. If he hooked up with a boy, well, I never saw it. Not my freaking business. I was more interested in the prostitutes (which means that my behavior was just as immoral).

(2) I already talked about a gay guy with whom I rented a house in a comment up above. Go there and read it.

(3) I once had a supervisor who was gay. One time I overheared him call his significant other a “husband.” But he never shoved hs lifestyle down my face or anyone else’s for that matter. Yup, he knew I was a Catholic Christian and didn’t agree with his life style. So I didn’t call him out on his life choices, and he didn’t criticize my religion. One time I had chest pains at work. Guess who brought me to the doctor’s and stayed with me the whole time? I’ll never forget that. He was a decent human being, but totally wrong about same sex relations.

Now obviously my experiences aren’t very scientific. But none of the gays I knew wanted anything to do with this political nonsense. In fact, one time I mentioned something about a Republican gay rights group to that supervisor (because I knew from other sources – car bumber stick I think – that he was also Republican) – an innocent comment, wondering his position. He shook his head no, wagged his finger no, and walked away. He didn’t want to bring politics into the work space. Oh what a surprise! He wanted to keep his private life private!

It’s the damn freaking leftists – invariably rich liberal white heterosexual godless Democrat elitists – who are behind all this nonsense. Sure, there are NYC and San Francisco crazies parading in thongs and pink spray paint. But the gays I have known personally wouldn’t have had anything to do with such freaks.

All I am asking for is this: no politics in the work space. Is that too hard?

Lucius,
If we had been conducting this conversation 30 years ago, I might partly agree with you. I cannot. You’ve had some experiences with gays and the secular left; so have I.
I have rarely seen “tolerance” work. Be it LGBT persons, women, Black or Hispanic persons, Asian persons, unwed mothers–or their children, or something else, “tolerance” almost always warps expectations. You place emphasis on how we shouldn’t harass gay persons. Well, that’s usually the starting point. ..I’ve never heard anyone declare it OK to harass another human being. Yet object to this or that attitude or behavior which favors a “minority group”, one quickly learns that one already DID harass someone. We learned the Golden Rule about doing unto others from elementary school; college altered it so that one could not do–or say–anything unto another except by that others demanded norms. ..Never mind our own. Try reminding anyone of the nation’s Judeo-Christian heritage, you rapidly hear this declaimed an abuse, that We, the People have always been secular.
I have rarely worked in situations wherein I felt I could safely express a Catholic view. Even surrounding Mass, we rarely agree what a worthy Catholic viewpoint IS. Then too, legal redress presents little opportunity; our Judiciary declares itself “values neutral”, yet has rarely been neutral, never mind virtuous.
…Incidentally, that bit about a gay man not wanting to be political…sounds all too familiar. I discovered during college how military short haircuts…also appealed to gay men. I had been mistaken for a gay man at least three times before I graduated. Then, during my first tour of duty, I met a fellow who soon revealed his “nature”. Though awkward, I felt I could still be a friend. He commented about his disgust with politics too. ..He met someone within six months after I changed duty stations. Within two years, he had moved to the “friend’s” native France; ..he commented how they were pursing their “rights” as a married couple.
snorts So much for disgust with politics!
I don’t think we’ll have much ability to profess any virtuous sentiment routinely without a major change in direction nationwide. ..I dread the risk that change might only occur by violence.
I do wish our bishops would be more ..vigorous ..about preaching and teaching Catholic faith.

@ John L Flaherty: maybe you’re right. My experiences are recollections from over four plus decades. I have not had any social or direct work-related interaction with homoexuals for the past decade or so. Therefore, my experience from the late 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s may no longer apply. I apologize.

That said, I was reading the mini-apocalypse of Isaiah 24 and the victory over death in Isaiah 25 earlier this evening. I was struck by verses 10 through 12 in chapter 25:

10 For the hand of the Lord will rest on this mountain.
The Moabites shall be trodden down in their place
as straw is trodden down in a dung-pit.
11 Though they spread out their hands in the midst of it,
as swimmers spread out their hands to swim,
their pride will be laid low despite the struggle of their hands.
12 The high fortifications of his walls will be brought down,
laid low, cast to the ground, even to the dust.

Strange that the prophet Isaiah when speaking of the eschatological victory of the Lord returns to talk about Moab, the country whose people now extinct were descended from the eldest daughter of Lot who in Genesis 19:10-38 got Lot drunk and with her sister committed incest with him to have children because their fiances had been consumed in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. One of my many study Bibles had a note in it explaining that maybe Moab is an abbreviation for Immo-ab meaning “mother is father.” So I thought to myself – noting the oblique relationship this all has to Sodom and Gomorrah which were destroyed for their homosexual perversions – that maybe Moab here in Isaiah 25:10 prophetically refers to feminized men in these last days before the Parousia, and the phrase in verse 11 stating that “their pride will be laid low” refers to the Lord defeating gay pride.

Or maybe I think too much and am reading things into Sacred Scripture that aren’t there. But it’s just strange that here we are talking about June Pride Month and replacing the Pride Flag with our nation’s flag (as someone above noted the Germans are doing), and on a whim I decided to read those two chapters this evening.